Mickey Arthur and Sarfraz Ahmed have a few problems to sort....

[MenInG]

Its called an embarrassment of riches type quandary!

Faheem Ashraf, Rumman Raees, Shadab Khan, Mohammad Amir, Junaid Khan - all look good!

And as of today:

Azhar Ali, Mohammad Hafeez

Sorry Mickey Bro - can't help you with this one

Enjoy this burden Sir but get us the best combo for The Oval on 18th June.

 

[Madplayer]

Azhar and hafeez played really well today. Headaches for the selectors with amir getting fit too.

 

[ar2020]

I think it's pretty simple.

If Amir is fit he comes in for Shadab.

I personally would also replace Raees with Faheem as we need the firepower in our batting vs. India.

30 overs from Amir, Junaid, Hasan Ali. 10 overs from Imad and a split between Faheem and Hafeez. Plenty of bowlers still. Raees is not needed especially because Amir can bowl the final overs.

 

[HeavenOrHell]

I do not think they will change the batting order or try to fix things which are not broken. Hafeez and Azhar will play the finals but Mickey will think about this after the tournament.

 

[Macho Mann]

Azhar and hafeez played really well today. Headaches for the selectors with amir getting fit too.

amir needs to again go through physical fitness test and prove his fitness

he is getting injured a lot

 

[TQ89]

No need to be over excited. Pakistan wins three successive matches and every body loses their mind. The domestic structure still sucks. The team is still carrying TTF's and apart from fakhar no body in top order is aggressive batsmen

Cant wait for india to beat us to shut up the over emotional crowd.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Like wahab on the 1st game.. Imad will be the one who will give 5-0-60-0 in the final if it is against India...Anyway both are subcontinent sides, so play four pacers like they did against SRL...

I would go with the following line up Amir, Junaid, Hasan, Rumman and Shadab with an unchanged batting lineup except Sarfraz coming in at 4 if chasing any more than 250...

 

[LordEddardStark]

It's not likely that Aamir would get fit in just 3 days. Seems it's Rumaan's opportunity to shine once more.

And I think team selection for finals depend upon the opposition and pitch that day. It'd either be 4 seamers & 1 spinner or 3 seamers & 2 spinners. Faheem Ashraf and Imad Wasim could be interchanged depending upon the scenario.

 

[ar2020]

Like wahab on the 1st game.. Imad will be the one who will give 5-0-60-0 in the final if it is against India...Anyway both are subcontinent sides, so play four pacers like they did against SRL...

I would go with the following line up Amir, Junaid, Hasan, Rumman and Shadab with an unchanged batting lineup except Sarfraz coming in at 4 if chasing any more than 250...

Imad bowled 8 overs for 43 runs vs India. That's not bad. Last over went for 23 runs as a spinner bowling final over with opposition having wickets in hand...

 

[NA]

No need to be over excited. Pakistan wins three successive matches and every body loses their mind. The domestic structure still sucks. The team is still carrying TTF's and apart from fakhar no body in top order is aggressive batsmen

Cant wait for india to beat us to shut up the over emotional crowd.

That's the spirit. The love to be proven right on internet should always be bigger than the love for your team.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I think it's pretty simple.

If Amir is fit he comes in for Shadab.

I personally would also replace Raees with Faheem as we need the firepower in our batting vs. India.

30 overs from Amir, Junaid, Hasan Ali. 10 overs from Imad and a split between Faheem and Hafeez. Plenty of bowlers still. Raees is not needed especially because Amir can bowl the final overs.

a bit defensive... Go with an attacking option to take 10 wickets before 200-250... It should be Amir, Junaid, Hasan, Raees and Shadab... why because pakistan's best chance is to restrict India to 200-250 and chance or even when they bat first they need an attacking bowling lineup who can take 10 wickets with the skill set...

Raees definitely needed to keep Indian batsmen quiet with his variations...

having said all that, what i feel is India will lose to bangladesh tomorrow as so far it is going in an opposite road.. favorites didnt make the semis except india and england... and now rank 8 team is in the final... I think it will be white green vs green red...

 

[Pete Rose]

hafeez and azhar played well because we were chasing sub 250 score.
lets not use this as vindication of the slow and steady approach. as for hafeez, his pedigree when not under pressure is somewhat better.
applaud them yes, but this work only when dismiss the opposition for a low score.
mickey's bowling attack (fakhar zaman) is carrying us in this tournament

 

[Markhor]

Azhar and Hafeez aren't good enough in the long run.

Yes Azhar scored 76 but it was a low total to chase with little scoreboard pressure. We know his limitations when we need to score 300+ or chase a score at more than 6 RPO.

He has the lowest SR of any ODI opener since the 2015 WC who has more than 1000 runs.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

It shouldn't be too difficult.

Batting order will remain the same as they all seem to have clicked and they won't drop any senior for final.

In Bowling, as the other finalist is also Asian. We need to drop one of the spinner and bring Amir.

 

[SaadAliG]

Hafeez and Babar played above average innings when there was no pressure. They'll down like a **** once the pressure come.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I think it's pretty simple.

If Amir is fit he comes in for Shadab.

I personally would also replace Raees with Faheem as we need the firepower in our batting vs. India.

30 overs from Amir, Junaid, Hasan Ali. 10 overs from Imad and a split between Faheem and Hafeez. Plenty of bowlers still. Raees is not needed especially because Amir can bowl the final overs.

Let India win first.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

mickey if u r reading this..

if u face india or bangladesh// Just make one change to the side played today...

If Amir is fit enough to play the final then, Amir in for Imad...And if u r chasing anything more than 250 send Sarfraz at 4 as he will kill the chase with his strike rotation his 50 or 60 at 100 SR at no.4 will be the turning point on a run chase...

 

[Chief Destroyer]

I don't think they will change much. Amir will come in for Rumman.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

It shouldn't be too difficult.

Batting order will remain the same as they all seem to have clicked and they won't drop any senior for final.

In Bowling, as the other finalist is also Asian. We need to drop one of the spinner and bring Amir.

I will bring in Amir for Imad... shadab will get wickets even if he goes at 5 or 6 RPO, imad is only capable of restricting but he will get smashed against India....

 

[ask_analyse_act]

If Pak face and win against India will move them up to no.6 ranking and push bangla boys below pak.....

 

[choclate]

No need to be over excited. Pakistan wins three successive matches and every body loses their mind. The domestic structure still sucks. The team is still carrying TTF's and apart from fakhar no body in top order is aggressive batsmen

Cant wait for india to beat us to shut up the over emotional crowd.

That's what it is called seeing the glass half full. We won 3 consecutive matches and it's a BIG deal as it was against the top teams in World Cricket in the top tournament including a knock out game against a Red Hot English team. Heck if we had got Yuvi out early the other day we could have even nailed India down to a manageable total. Its the exact domestic structure of which PSL is now a part as well that gave us folks like Hassan, Shadab and Rooman.

 

[TQ89]

Azhar and Hafeez aren't good enough in the long run.

Yes Azhar scored 76 but it was a low total to chase with little scoreboard pressure. We know his limitations when we need to score 300+ or chase a score at more than 6 RPO.

He has the lowest SR of any ODI opener since the 2015 WC who has more than 1000 runs.

This is one among many reasons why i am not too excited over the recent successes.

 

[BakuGM]

If Amir is fit then he should come in for Imad, that's the only change Pakistani team should make. If the final is against India then our only hope is to restrict them to 250 and no more which can be done by having 4 fast and two spin (Shadab and Hafeez) bowlers.

 

[rajulakhpati]

No need to be over excited. Pakistan wins three successive matches and every body loses their mind. The domestic structure still sucks. The team is still carrying TTF's and apart from fakhar no body in top order is aggressive batsmen

Cant wait for india to beat us to shut up the over emotional crowd.

Even though I agree with your first paragraph, you still have to cherish the moment man. We rarely get glimpses of brilliance like this from Pak, so you gotta enjoy it while it's here. We all know the Pak system is bad, TTFs continue to get chances, and they could very well drop right back into the abyss of mediocrity after this tournament, but at least for a moment, they are on top. Enjoy it man, from one perpetually angry Pak fan to another.

 

[nads_rocks]

Whatever the pitch conditions are. We should play to our strengths and not Indias

Our strength is pace bowling. Fast ruthless bowling.

Fakhar
Hafeez

Babar
Haris
Safraz
Malik
Fahim

Amir
Junaid
Hassan
Rumman

Go in with 5 pacers is the way to defeat india.
For spin we have hafeez and malik if needed but just pace India out.

We have fakhar who can give us a great start and Hafeez I would bank to support him with a decent sr rather than Azhar even tho Azhar has done ok but no gambles in the final. Azhar is still abit slow. Hafeez showed today that he is more than capable of hitting a few and seeing Fakhar may wake him up too.

Babar has found some form back so the middle order with Haris gives us more batsman.
We have Fahim who can give us some much needed firepower and also bowl some overs too.

Rest we can leave to the tail and we all know what they can do when bowling.

Thats my line up.

 

[zulfiqar]

I'm so happy Azhar, Babar & Hafeez got runs. If only they batted the same way even when chasing a 100+ more runs. I know it doesn't work like that but courage is the difference between the way these three batted today versus how they batted previously.

For the final if Amir is fit he should come back replacing Raees. I would drop Shadab and bring in Faheem Ashraf again versus India, and those would be the only two changes I would make to the XI in the semi-final. The second one purely because India plays spin very well and we need batting depth.

 

[shaz619]

Azhar and Hafeez aren't good enough in the long run.

Yes Azhar scored 76 but it was a low total to chase with little scoreboard pressure. We know his limitations when we need to score 300+ or chase a score at more than 6 RPO.

He has the lowest SR of any ODI opener since the 2015 WC who has more than 1000 runs.

When we chased 300+ at Cardiff and won in 2016 vs England Azhar had an S/R of 89

 

[ar2020]

Folks saying bring Amir in for Imad...you are making the batting even more weak. Today it was already weaker without Faheem.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Imad bowled 8 overs for 43 runs vs India. That's not bad. Last over went for 23 runs as a spinner bowling final over with opposition having wickets in hand...

was forced to use him in the PP against India and under overcast conditions as Imad is a medium pacer than a spinner, he bowled in the powerplay while india tries to make a cautious start to set the platform... if used in the middle like shadab was used when the batsmen are well set then you will see what happens to his darters...

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Folks saying bring Amir in for Imad...you are making the batting even more weak. Today it was already weaker without Faheem.

Pak strength is their bowling , so go with the strength and tighten it up...top batting sides have failed and after India game 236 was the highest score made against Pak bowling line up on these flat wickets...

Dont worry about the batting if the bowlers can bundle the teams out for 211 or even less than 250... if 6 batsmen cant do it, 7th will not be able to do much... so far in this tournament Imad has flopped in batting getting out so cheaply and softly...

Going with an all 5 attacking wicket taking bowlers is the way to go for pakistan to crush any batting super weights...In this era, nearly most of them are FTBs , so will struggle and not survive against any quality bowling...

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Folks saying bring Amir in for Imad...you are making the batting even more weak. Today it was already weaker without Faheem.

amir junaid hassan and shadab are all wicket taking options... Only raees and imad are economical bowlers, being sub-continental sides, raees is the wise and best choice ...

 

[Ahson8]

I don't think they will change much. Amir will come in for Rumman.

Id replace Imad with Amir. Rumman bowled well today.

 

[Ahson8]

Folks saying bring Amir in for Imad...you are making the batting even more weak. Today it was already weaker without Faheem.

Yeah because Imad's been scoring every game.

 

[basitmian]

From today's team, drop Shadab and bring in Amir, simple.

India/Bangladesh will play Shadab well.

 

[Sarfarazian92]

Amir should come in for Imad. You can't drop Rumman.

Rumman is a gem and people haven't noticed that yet.

Everyone said he is only effective when his team is defending a huge total.

Today, he bowled equally well with the new and old ball.

We lack mentally strong and confident players when playing against India which is why we can't afford to drop Rumman. Try and find Rumman's interviews during PSL. That dude is confident and knows exactly what he's doing.

His inclusion in the team can be the deciding factor on Sunday. India hasn't played him before, which also helps.

 

[Monsee]

No need to be over excited. Pakistan wins three successive matches and every body loses their mind. The domestic structure still sucks. The team is still carrying TTF's and apart from fakhar no body in top order is aggressive batsmen

Cant wait for india to beat us to shut up the over emotional crowd.

With all due respect, this is called 'Loser mentality'!

To look at it more positively, imagine what this team can do when it is carrying all the TTF's and still able to win such important matches against 2 of the top teams in the world

 

[TQ89]

With all due respect, this is called 'Loser mentality'!

To look at it more positively, imagine what this team can do when it is carrying all the TTF's and still able to win such important matches against 2 of the top teams in the world

I can't celebrate one achievement after thousand inconsistencies. Especially when you know how it is going to end after the tournament. These same TTF's will never be weeded out and will haunt you in 2019 WC & tournamnets before that.

Call me whatever you want but I am calling it as it is. Some call it pessimism some call it being realist

 

[rayhanhood]

First time here, and an Indian fan.

My rule is always - why screw around with something that worked so well? I thought Pak was lucky against both SA and Sri Lanka. Today's performance was quite outstanding and even though Amir is amazing, he hasn't been at his best.

Keep the team from today.

 

[KhalidRafi]

If India win tomorrow I think it's essential we bring back both Fahim and Amir. Need to eliminate a spinner because Indians are good against spin and Fahim can hit the ball a long way too which is a major help in the lower order assuming we bat first. Shadab and Raees should go out

 

[F0ulu]

No need to be over excited. Pakistan wins three successive matches and every body loses their mind. The domestic structure still sucks. The team is still carrying TTF's and apart from fakhar no body in top order is aggressive batsmen

Cant wait for india to beat us to shut up the over emotional crowd.

You're right about the TTFs. But now is not the time to be talking about it, let alone casting negativity around with your dismal predictions about the game with India; weren't similar dismal predictions afloat before start of CT? That we would be the first team to get knocked out?
Our team is not perfect, yes, but we have to do with what squad is available, and back our team, right? and I can't believe you are not in celebration mood already that we're in the finals?
On a side note, are you a Pakistani?

 

[KimiRaikonnen]

Dear OP,


Hafeez is an embarrassment - and can never be considered an embarrassment of riches.


He got lucky today as he had no pressure on him - pressure was already absorbed by Fakhar,Babar and Azhar. Hafeez scored his usual once in a blue moon 30 odd to keep his career average a brilliant 30.

 

[muqarrab]

Its called an embarrassment of riches type quandary!

Faheem Ashraf, Rumman Raees, Shadab Khan, Mohammad Amir, Junaid Khan - all look good!

And as of today:

Azhar Ali, Mohammad Hafeez

Sorry Mickey Bro - can't help you with this one

Enjoy this burden Sir but get us the best combo for The Oval on 18th June.

Drop raees and shadab and briing in amir and faheem

 

[imranyounus]

with azhar baba and hafeez able to getsome runs. it will b easier to drop shoaib and bring in fahim and if amir is fit he may come. we need to bring immad up in the batting order. as of today he has been unable to hit big which has been our problem in lower order. need fahim there

 

[tahir_dj]

Hafeez need to be out he o ly played good because there was no pressure and even though he would have been out in si gle digit if the butler didnt mess the stumping chance

 

[Arsalan Pro]

From today's team, drop Shadab and bring in Amir, simple.

India/Bangladesh will play Shadab well.

They will play Imad well too, also Shadab is a wicket taking option who should be preferred over Imad.

 

[Hayreddin]

Anyone else ok with letting Rumman play the final match? Because as of now, I kind of prefer him over Amir...

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Will be a flat track on a hot day.... bring Amir for Ruman and faheem for Imad. More likely it will be be 300 par score pitch. In that scenario Pakistan needs to add in another aggressive batsman to chase down whatever India puts up.

Hafeez needs to stop being a coward and bowl against Indian lefties.

 

[boomboom6]

As others have stated, only 1 change needed in the final, Amir for Imad if fit.

We'll have 5 wicket taking options in Amir, Junaid, Hasan, Rumman and Shadab while Hafeez & Malik can be used as choke options.

And I'd like Sarf to swap place with Hafeez in the batting order in the final as Hafeez is sure to mess it up for us.

 

[boomboom6]

But if Amir is not fit, then Faheem should come in for Imad.

 

[Rudi hater]

If I was selecting the side I would bring Haaris Sohail for Imad and obiviousily Aamir will return and then between Shadab and Faheem I would pick Faheem if Indian is in the final.

 

[Abdullah]

People don't understand imad shadab role. He keeps it tight /pulls things back between overs 8-15. He goes at 4.
This combined with a couple of early strikes ensure the score is no more than 65-2 after 15 overs.

 

[Monsee]

I like what I saw in Rumman Raees, I want him to play and also bring in Faheem. Imad and Shadab should make way; Imad is too preditable for Indians and I think Shadab is not very comfortable on these pitches yet (work in progress).

I would go with:

Azhar
Fakkhar
Babar
Hafeez (want Harris in but he ain't playing unless Hafeez retires all of a sudden or some Pak fan or two or three go to the team hotel and give him some good dose of Kambal Kutt)
Malik
Sarfraz
Faheem
Rumman
Amir
Hassan
Junaid

 

[Abdullah]

No need to be over excited. Pakistan wins three successive matches and every body loses their mind. The domestic structure still sucks. The team is still carrying TTF's and apart from fakhar no body in top order is aggressive batsmen

Cant wait for india to beat us to shut up the over emotional crowd.

What on earth is wrong with u.
You can't write that last sentence and use "us" in it

Yes we have problems in domestic but come on dude

 

[Abdullah]

^imad role

 

[New Yorker]

hafeez and azhar played well because we were chasing sub 250 score.
lets not use this as vindication of the slow and steady approach. as for hafeez, his pedigree when not under pressure is somewhat better.
applaud them yes, but this work only when dismiss the opposition for a low score.
mickey's bowling attack (fakhar zaman) is carrying us in this tournament

Pretty much this. Hafeez and Azhar shouldnt have a future in the team. I expect Hafeez to bottle it in the final. He scored the cheapest of cheap runs today, could have been out for nothing. And I dont know what threat he poses to with the ball. He has taken 1 wicket against non minnow sides in his last 11 ODIs. Fakhar Zaman's starts have made a world of difference. If he doesnt come good I see the innings stalling. The opposition will have plans A and B for him in the final.

 

[New Yorker]

People don't understand imad shadab role. He keeps it tight /pulls things back between overs 8-15. He goes at 4.
This combined with a couple of early strikes ensure the score is no more than 65-2 after 15 overs.

yes he's tighter than hafeez. and, as someone pointed out, his bowling scuffs the ball for reverse later on.

 

[msb314]

Despite Hafeez's sixes at the end - he still has to go.

Not good enough for the middle order and not good enough as an opener either.

 

[mak36]

Its called an embarrassment of riches type quandary!

Faheem Ashraf, Rumman Raees, Shadab Khan, Mohammad Amir, Junaid Khan - all look good!

And as of today:

Azhar Ali, Mohammad Hafeez

Sorry Mickey Bro - can't help you with this one

Enjoy this burden Sir but get us the best combo for The Oval on 18th June.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. The bowling is looking strong, but the batting is still a weakness. Whilst it was good to see the batting start to click today (good sign for Sunday), going forward there is still a long way to go. This will involve making tough decisions if we want to be competitive at the World Cup- most obviously we need to focus on ensuring we are spoilt for choice when it comes to the top 4.

 

[New Yorker]

I will bring in Amir for Imad... shadab will get wickets even if he goes at 5 or 6 RPO, imad is only capable of restricting but he will get smashed against India....

imad has many uses, as per this from [MENTION=44940]sarmad1983[/MENTION]

Why is Pakistan the only team to get reverse swing?

I think the credit goes to Imad and how he is holding the new ball. the undercutting of the ball makes the seam parallel to the surface and thus he can completely rough up one side of the ball by consistently landing it on the leather of one side of the ball.

great strategy by mickey and hopefully it is planned.
thoughts??

- See more at: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...am-to-get-reverse-swing&p=9319375#post9319375

 

[Mag101]

Will be a flat track on a hot day.... bring Amir for Ruman and faheem for Imad. More likely it will be be 300 par score pitch. In that scenario Pakistan needs to add in another aggressive batsman to chase down whatever India puts up.

Hafeez needs to stop being a coward and bowl against Indian lefties.

Did you even think about what you posted? You want fahim to bowl to India?? Talk about self destructing. India will struggle with Amir, Junaid, Hasan, Raees, Shahdab and Hafeez combination.

Imad and Fahim are not required for the game against india.

 

[Madplayer]

I can't celebrate one achievement after thousand inconsistencies. Especially when you know how it is going to end after the tournament. These same TTF's will never be weeded out and will haunt you in 2019 WC & tournamnets before that.

Call me whatever you want but I am calling it as it is. Some call it pessimism some call it being realist

Then dont celeberate. Join the Englishmen.

 

[Rudi hater]

People don't understand imad shadab role. He keeps it tight /pulls things back between overs 8-15. He goes at 4.
This combined with a couple of early strikes ensure the score is no more than 65-2 after 15 overs.

I know exactly what role they play but you need to look at the opponents Imad would not do well against India becuase they play spin well.

 

[Rudi hater]

Pakistan has too thin batting line up.

 

[Syed1]

Pakistan has too thin batting lined up.

Excuse me.. didn't we just beat England by 8 wickets with 13 overs to spare, or did we borrow batsmen from India for this match?

 

[Abdullah]

I know exactly what role they play but you need to look at the opponents Imad would not do well against India becuase they play spin well.

In the first game he did fine. Quicks didn't strike early from other side, and shezzy gave 5 runs of misfield early on for imad. He bowled ok.
Don't let the last over count against him

 

[Abdullah]

Excuse me.. didn't we just beat England by 8 wickets with 13 overs to spare, or did we borrow batsmen from India for this match?

He started talking about the normal rather than the exception.
I wish pp would stop this swinging of emotions.
The batting is a bit behind the rest of the world. Bowling is right up there, and fielding needs to be consistent

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Did you even think about what you posted? You want fahim to bowl to India?? Talk about self destructing. India will struggle with Amir, Junaid, Hasan, Raees, Shahdab and Hafeez combination.

Imad and Fahim are not required for the game against india.

The Cardiff wicket was suited to Pakistani bowling. The oval will be more of traditional road that we have to expect for Odis. Indians will not struggle like England did, the par score will be 300 if not more.

Pakistani batting is too thin and flat to chase 300 scores. So far zaman has come off in every game, he is due a failure at some point. Faheem has to play to provide impetus in the lower order. Faheem need not bowl more than 4 or 5 overs if Hafeez can bowl the rest.

 

[Zabbaz]

hafeez and azhar played well because we were chasing sub 250 score.
lets not use this as vindication of the slow and steady approach. as for hafeez, his pedigree when not under pressure is somewhat better.
applaud them yes, but this work only when dismiss the opposition for a low score.
mickey's bowling attack (fakhar zaman) is carrying us in this tournament

Great point! Some people lack the intelligence to understand it though. A surprisingly high amount of people

 

[Zabbaz]

Azhar and Hafeez aren't good enough in the long run.

Yes Azhar scored 76 but it was a low total to chase with little scoreboard pressure. We know his limitations when we need to score 300+ or chase a score at more than 6 RPO.

He has the lowest SR of any ODI opener since the 2015 WC who has more than 1000 runs.

Well said sir

 

[Sirris]

Sarfraz said that amir is our main strikte bowler. Hence it seem if he is fit he will be picked without any long considerations.

I personally believe since amir is surrounded by a healthy dose of bad luck. His absence might not be that bad. Especially since Raess did a very decent job as his replacement.

 

[Mag101]

Well you lot need to fathom that you cannot make too many changes for the final. It's a bit late in the day to tweak the lineup drastically. That and there's nobody on the bench to replace both Azhar and Hafeez.

 

[ChachaPakistani]

You are daft if you want to take out Shadab at this point, his fielding was incredible today and he played such a crucial role in preventing runs. He took quality wickets today too and maintained economy. You need that agility and athleticism on the field.

If Amir is fit and back, you don't drop Rumman. He did so well today and his consistent line and length would put batsmen in a ton of trouble. If you're playing at the flat Oval and against a subcontinent team which will likely be an India squad that does very well against spin, you don't play Imad. He was easily figured out against Indian batsmen that it was terrible.

Get a consistent pace attack with

Amir,
Hassan,
Junaid, and
Rumman.

India hasn't seen Rumman yet, and they havent seen Junaid in this tournament yet either; they haven't seen Hafeez's spin against left handed batsmen either. You're already improving by not including Wahab. Get 20 overs of economic overs from Hafeez and Shadab, get aggressive spin from Shadab.

 

[New Yorker]

Did you even think about what you posted? You want fahim to bowl to India?? Talk about self destructing. India will struggle with Amir, Junaid, Hasan, Raees, Shahdab and Hafeez combination.

Imad and Fahim are not required for the game against india.

And Hafeez is required for what exactly? Who's the more economical spinner, him or Imad? If we need someone to smash easy runs when the game is already over I'm sure others can help out.

 

[yadunoe]

Great victory by pakistan td our bowling is doing well on theese old slow wickets and if we can restrict India to 250 we can win if amir is fit i would bring in amir and fahim for imad and shadab Indians play spin well so we should go with a pace heavy attack and we have hafeez and Malik for spin options.

 

[Mag101]

And Hafeez is required for what exactly? Who's the more economical spinner, him or Imad? If we need someone to smash easy runs when the game is already over I'm sure others can help out.

Ostracising Hafeez after the tournament is a valid, separate debate. It would be wholly inappropriate to throw in Haris, into the most important game of the entire tournament, minus any practice and game time. Additionally, he cannot bowl to a decent level nor can he field.. Not much incentive to play Haris at this point in time. I already stated these are our 2 possible options against India:

Amir-Junaid-Hasan-Raees-Shahdab or
Amir-Junaid-Hasan-Raees-Fahim

 

[Mag101]

The Cardiff wicket was suited to Pakistani bowling. The oval will be more of traditional road that we have to expect for Odis. Indians will not struggle like England did, the par score will be 300 if not more.

Pakistani batting is too thin and flat to chase 300 scores. So far zaman has come off in every game, he is due a failure at some point. Faheem has to play to provide impetus in the lower order. Faheem need not bowl more than 4 or 5 overs if Hafeez can bowl the rest.

india will likely treat Fahim like they did Wahab. Ruman on the other hand... Is a crafty operator and relatively unknown (can hold a bat and field)... He is indispensable at this point, thus cannot be dropped. Furthermore, you will need one spinner, to partner hafeez, I would go with the attacking option of Shahdab than the container Imad (also for a dynamic attack). Conversely, since India will score 300+ regardless, MAY have to go out on a limb and play Amir-Junaid-Hasan-Raees-Fahim in one squad to augment the batting lineup; It is indeed a conundrum.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Hafeez came in with the match practically won and should have been immediately stumped. Can't believe how low the bar is for someone batting at the crucial #4!

Know it won't happen but we should bring in Harris for the final and strengthen the batting. At some point we will need a solid performance form the #4 spot and I don't see it coming from Hafeez.

I rate Shadab very highly but Faheem might make sense. They'll probably gauge the conditions before making that call. Maybe Shadab and Faheem both play and Imad sits out.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

imad has many uses, as per this from [MENTION=44940]sarmad1983[/MENTION]

Why is Pakistan the only team to get reverse swing?

I think the credit goes to Imad and how he is holding the new ball. the undercutting of the ball makes the seam parallel to the surface and thus he can completely rough up one side of the ball by consistently landing it on the leather of one side of the ball.

great strategy by mickey and hopefully it is planned.
thoughts??

- See more at: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...am-to-get-reverse-swing&p=9319375#post9319375

Ok now i get it, if that is the case then IMAD all the way.. Amir will have more use of reverse swing... I can see the difference from the India game in this perspective, then have to sit shadab for Amir...

 

[Shafi]

Regardless what is our bowling line up, if we bat first India's chance to win the match by 98%.
If we bowl first and play nervous than it will be same story like ICC tournaments.

Our bowling line up should be

Amir (if fit)-Junaid-Hasan-Raees-Fahim/Sadab

 

[TQ89]

You're right about the TTFs. But now is not the time to be talking about it, let alone casting negativity around with your dismal predictions about the game with India; weren't similar dismal predictions afloat before start of CT? That we would be the first team to get knocked out?
Our team is not perfect, yes, but we have to do with what squad is available, and back our team, right? and I can't believe you are not in celebration mood already that we're in the finals?
On a side note, are you a Pakistani?

Yes