He is an excellent coach , but doubt he will take the job, hope he does.
Yes he is.
Can't take the job on at the moment, but maybe in future.
He's not going to turn his back on the South Australia job at the moment.
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He is an excellent coach , but doubt he will take the job, hope he does.
Justin Langer today:
"I don’t think I’ll coach again. No, I don’t think I’ll coach again,” said Langer, who was a highly-successful coach with Western Australia and the Perth Scorchers before taking the national job.
“The craziness is – and it’s really strange in cricket – if you think about a lot of the other codes, the best coaches are a lot older. It doesn’t make sense in cricket.
“I say I’m not going to coach again, but I reckon I’m 10 years off being the best coach I could be. I honestly reckon – because things don’t shock you, things don’t surprise you (the more experienced you get).”
Ramiz Raja is right about how this whole Mickey thing has been handled:
"Despite the presence of your coach (Saqlain Mushtaq), you went to Mickey Arthur. You openly say that Pakistani coaches are not necessary. You went to a foreign coach while the series was on and that foreign coach eventually said that he is not available."
"These are the talks that happen in-house. If you are against the coach on one end, then his passion-drive diminishes and the team is under pressure because of that."
Tbh saqlain has not shown much passion at any stage during his tenure.
Ramiz Raja is right about how this whole Mickey thing has been handled:
"Despite the presence of your coach (Saqlain Mushtaq), you went to Mickey Arthur. You openly say that Pakistani coaches are not necessary. You went to a foreign coach while the series was on and that foreign coach eventually said that he is not available."
"These are the talks that happen in-house. If you are against the coach on one end, then his passion-drive diminishes and the team is under pressure because of that."
Complete confusion, media is reporting that PCB has renegotiated with Mickey Arthur and he has now accepted the offer?
What is the truth?
Ramiz Raja is right about how this whole Mickey thing has been handled:
"Despite the presence of your coach (Saqlain Mushtaq), you went to Mickey Arthur. You openly say that Pakistani coaches are not necessary. You went to a foreign coach while the series was on and that foreign coach eventually said that he is not available."
"These are the talks that happen in-house. If you are against the coach on one end, then his passion-drive diminishes and the team is under pressure because of that."
I asked a source very close to Mickey and he says it's not true and just some media trying to create stories and confusion.
Ramiz himself failed to hire full time Head coach & Fielding coach in his entire tenure and now he is publicly questioning PCB.
Ramiz has just been removed from PCB's top position and as a professional he shouldn't give public statements for 1 year or at least 6 months. I don't understand why Ramiz is giving public statements on PCB's affairs every other day
Ramiz himself failed to hire full time Head coach & Fielding coach in his entire tenure and now he is publicly questioning PCB.
Ramiz has just been removed from PCB's top position and as a professional he shouldn't give public statements for 1 year or at least 6 months. I don't understand why Ramiz is giving public statements on PCB's affairs every other day
Pakistan is a country that only sees white people as the real foreign coaches sadly. Phil Simmons and Chandika Hathurusingha have proven record as head coaches but I doubt PCB would even consider them.
Given Langer’s recent comments, I’m afraid that the names you mentioned (+ Johan Botha) are certainly now the realistic options.
Could you perhaps speak to each of the above names actually abilities, how suited they’d be to the Pakistan set up and if they can actually improve the player’s technically and mentally?
I ask because I’m actually not too familiar with their recent work and strengths and weaknesses too much.
I think the best (and realistic options) would be Graham Ford, Jason Gillespie, Simon Katich or some Australian domestic cricket coach.
Graham Ford has had successful stints as head-coach of South Africa and Sri Lanka. His last stint was with Ireland. Fairly experienced guy who has coached at the highest level.
Katich is more of a franchise coach. And it might be tough to get him away from his IPL and IPL lite jobs. But its not impossible because he's not an established name and a Pakistan head-coach job is a good way to build to coaching resume.
Gillespie might be the best option. He has more at the domestic level in England and Australia with stints as head-coach of Yorkshire, Sussex and South Australia, where he currently coaches. Has also played a role in elevating Papua New Guinea's cricket at the grassroots level. He reputation as a coach is pretty good and he is fairly young too.
You could try Boucher as well. He might go for it to reestablish his reputation. Which isn't in a great place after the SJN hearings and South Africa's performances in the last few years.
Why he cannot express his opinion ?
Rumors (Like plenty others) have been that Jason Gillespie was approached but, he is not available.
By suddenly removing Raja , GOP has made very difficult for PCB to find a new foreign coach for the team. All good international coaches have multiple options now a days and why would they consider Pak team coaching job when they would not know which PCB's chairman they will be working with. Sethi will also be removed if another party wins the elections.
I think the best (and realistic options) would be Graham Ford, Jason Gillespie, Simon Katich or some Australian domestic cricket coach.
Graham Ford has had successful stints as head-coach of South Africa and Sri Lanka. His last stint was with Ireland. Fairly experienced guy who has coached at the highest level.
Katich is more of a franchise coach. And it might be tough to get him away from his IPL and IPL lite jobs. But its not impossible because he's not an established name and a Pakistan head-coach job is a good way to build to coaching resume.
Gillespie might be the best option. He has more at the domestic level in England and Australia with stints as head-coach of Yorkshire, Sussex and South Australia, where he currently coaches. Has also played a role in elevating Papua New Guinea's cricket at the grassroots level. He reputation as a coach is pretty good and he is fairly young too.
You could try Boucher as well. He might go for it to reestablish his reputation. Which isn't in a great place after the SJN hearings and South Africa's performances in the last few years.
There are some reports on twitter that PCB has approached Waqar Younis for bowling coach and/or a role in selection commitee.. totally disaster, it would be ..if true
There is a fairly easy way to do this.
Assuming Sethi is mature enough to forget past differences:
1. Appoint Mickey Arthur as Managing Director, Mens National Team.
2. Health permitting, appoint Steve Rixon as Head Coach, Mens National Team.
3. Appoint someone young and emerging like Simon Katich as Assistant Coach, Mens National Team.
This would minimise the impact of Arthur being in England April to September each year.
Rashid Latif showed a chart which showed that Australia pays its head coach $1.75 million per year and India pays $1.17 million per year. England is paying Mccullam close to $800,000 per year. Sri Lanka is paying Silverwood close to $500,000 per year.
Pakistan was no where close to being competitive with $250,000 per year.
Latif stated that the PCB officials needed to change their mindset and offer a competitive pay to a top tier coach and view the expenditure as a long term investment which will pay off big time in terms of improvement in the players, tactics, team performance and transfer of coaching techniques, methods, processes. PCB sits at number 4 in the ICC revenue table and has the funds to increase the budget for the top tier coaches.
I agree with Latif, if the PCB can spend $4.3 million on the PJL, surely they can spend 20% of that amount on a top tier coach.
Rashid Latif showed a chart which showed that Australia pays its head coach $1.75 million per year and India pays $1.17 million per year. England is paying Mccullam close to $800,000 per year. Sri Lanka is paying Silverwood close to $500,000 per year.
Pakistan was no where close to being competitive with $250,000 per year.
Latif stated that the PCB officials needed to change their mindset and offer a competitive pay to a top tier coach and view the expenditure as a long term investment which will pay off big time in terms of improvement in the players, tactics, team performance and transfer of coaching techniques, methods, processes. PCB sits at number 4 in the ICC revenue table and has the funds to increase the budget for the top tier coaches.
I agree with Latif, if the PCB can spend $4.3 million on the PJL, surely they can spend 20% of that amount on a top tier coach.
Pls see
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jason Gillespie "I’ve agreed to an extension with South Australia. Pakistan Head Coach would be a great gig and something I would certainly look at. But my family at this point in time has to come first" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1614593898688696320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Some bad news is coming up guys. Its either::
Waqar is returning as
1. bowling coach
2. chief selector
3. head coach (may be)
Wasim Akram in an interview
"If you had asked me, I would have told you that foreign coaches will not come; everyone is afraid that the contract will also end if the board changes. If you are not getting a foreign coach, get the services of a Pakistan, the reason for the decline in the performance graph of fast bowlers is T20 cricket,"
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not sure where the reports of Waqar Younis being offered the Pakistan Bowling Coach role are coming from:<br><br>There has been no offer made to him<br>Highly unlikely he would accept the role even if any offer was made<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1615044445514121216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Thanks for the background on the suggested names.
The PCB need to decide what they want from a coach. Is he just coaching existing players? Is he developing younger players? What is his man management style? What are his technical abilities? Is there a vision, a strategy for what they want the Pakistan team to play like?
It would be retrograde to just ‘get a name in’. I’d be completely fine for a lesser name, as long as he’s a good fit.
I think a good example is the Middlesex coach who just recently led the Central Punjab lads to the Pakistan Cup. We all saw how well Usama Mir, Zafar Gohar and Qasim Akram shone under him.
That’s the type of progressive coach I can get behind.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lots of speculation around me taking on the bowling coach roll of Pakistan���� team. Let me be very clear I have not approached and I have no intentions of taking taking that job <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThankYou?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ThankYou</a></p>— Waqar Younis (@waqyounis99) <a href="https://twitter.com/waqyounis99/status/1615303105951813634?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It's harder now for countries like Pakistan to get the best coaches due to the uncertainty at PCB and also guys wanting to focus on T20 leagues.
Look at how Chelsea fc functioned under Abromovic. He was the kind of guy who would sack a manager the year after they won the Champion’s league or premier league if they didn’t maintain the results. It didn’t stop the world’s best coaches to still secure the Chelsea job.
As long as the contracts are iron clad and the manager/coach will get his full dues even if there is an early sacking, it shouldn’t stop attracting the manager
We are just not paying the right money, that’s the honest truth
It's harder now for countries like Pakistan to get the best coaches due to the uncertainty at PCB and also guys wanting to focus on T20 leagues.
But it’s ultimately down to moneyThere's a big difference between Chelsea and the PCB.
Like Rashid Latif said, you pay peanuts then expect monkeys. Pay the right amount i.e. $1 million plus and see people applying.
Like Rashid Latif said, you pay peanuts then expect monkeys. Pay the right amount i.e. $1 million plus and see people applying.
And then the media will go after the poor foreign coach....like they did with Wasim Khan.
I will repeat what I said elsewhere. There is NO point getting an elite coach for the national side when the players given to him are NOT the best we have.
The rot starts at the selection committee level. Fix that and results will flow.
And then the media will go after the poor foreign coach....like they did with Wasim Khan.
Wasim Khan was an incompetent failure. One pathetic decision after the other.
If a foreign coach is clueless the media has the right to go after him. He will not get a red carpet welcome & preferential treatment because he is a foreigner.
This is the biggest problem with foreign coaches. They think they are doing a favor by working with PCB & have a sense of entitlement. A bit of criticism & they start crying.
Your rants against Wasim Khan are tiresome, facts show that he and Ehsan Mani were more competent than Ramiz Raja whose list of pathetic decisions and financial losses to the PCB outweight his predecessors.
That is a lot of money.There is a fairly easy way to do this.
Assuming Sethi is mature enough to forget past differences:
1. Appoint Mickey Arthur as Managing Director, Mens National Team.
2. Health permitting, appoint Steve Rixon as Head Coach, Mens National Team.
3. Appoint someone young and emerging like Simon Katich as Assistant Coach, Mens National Team.
This would minimise the impact of Arthur being in England April to September each year.
Wasim Khan was an incompetent failure. One pathetic decision after the other.
If a foreign coach is clueless the media has the right to go after him. He will not get a red carpet welcome & preferential treatment because he is a foreigner.
This is the biggest problem with foreign coaches. They think they are doing a favor by working with PCB & have a sense of entitlement. A bit of criticism & they start crying.
SA has elevated their domestic coaches to 4 year contract
Infamous coaches in intl arena, Shukri Conrad and Rob Walter..
Pakistan with peanuts as pay should find something similar , obviously not in Pak domestic ..
Best place to search is in Aus or Eng domestics...
People won’t like this, but one of the best domestic coaches we have was Mohammad Wasim. People will conflate his performance as Chief Selector Vs his actual coaching ability, but he developed and brought through many players at Northern.
As long as the selection committee can give a give squad, Mohammad Wasim has the coaching credibility to do well.
However l, I appreciate that realistically this won’t happen.
SA has elevated their domestic coaches to 4 year contract
Infamous coaches in intl arena, Shukri Conrad and Rob Walter..
Pakistan with peanuts as pay should find something similar , obviously not in Pak domestic ..
Best place to search is in Aus or Eng domestics...
As per reports Kamran Akmal or Shoaib Akhter will be Chief Selector.
Can not actually believe that Akthar is given such a senior role.
Motormouths should be kept away but it'll be entertaining to see him do the role as an outsider.