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Mickey Arthur remains PCB's first choice as Head Coach

Savak said:
Rashid Latif showed a chart which showed that Australia pays its head coach $1.75 million per year and India pays $1.17 million per year. England is paying Mccullam close to $800,000 per year. Sri Lanka is paying Silverwood close to $500,000 per year.

Pakistan was no where close to being competitive with $250,000 per year.

Latif stated that the PCB officials needed to change their mindset and offer a competitive pay to a top tier coach and view the expenditure as a long term investment which will pay off big time in terms of improvement in the players, tactics, team performance and transfer of coaching techniques, methods, processes. PCB sits at number 4 in the ICC revenue table and has the funds to increase the budget for the top tier coaches.

I agree with Latif, if the PCB can spend $4.3 million on the PJL, surely they can spend 20% of that amount on a top tier coach.
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Well then Pak fans shouldnt compare or expect their players to play like Kohli, Steyn or Captain like Stokes in tests..

Should accept the minnow tag and be happy with the one off wins against top teams and compare them with lower ranked teams , even they are giving half a million per year...
 
Savak said:
Quality of Sports reporting has gone to gutter levels, too many unsubstantiated rumours about appointments, approaches only for denials later on does not portray a promising picture about Pakistani sports reporters
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It's was always thus..gossip rmour bakwaas
 
the Great Khan said:
It's was always thus..gossip rmour bakwaas
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The news cycle

1. Make outrageous statement about intended target
2. Wait for the target's reaction
3. If he doesn't respond, add more spice to it and go to Step 2.
4. If he denies it and produces irrefutable proof then simply report that as Breaking News - People will not remember who started the rumour in the first place.
 
MenInG said:
The news cycle

1. Make outrageous statement about intended target
2. Wait for the target's reaction
3. If he doesn't respond, add more spice to it and go to Step 2.
4. If he denies it and produces irrefutable proof then simply report that as Breaking News - People will not remember who started the rumour in the first place.
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Yup.they hounded poor wasim khan. I mean some of these guys shouldn't even be in a basic job let alone a journalist.
 
the Great Khan said:
Yup.they hounded poor wasim khan. I mean some of these guys shouldn't even be in a basic job let alone a journalist.
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Wasim khan came up with the ridiculous model of selector/coach being the same person. He signed a basically fraud deal with PTV and just implemented Imran Khan's wishes of a new domestic structure with little or no thinking going into what actually got rolled out. None of ths puts him ina good light, why should the media not have asked him tough questions?
 
muqarrab said:
Wasim khan came up with the ridiculous model of selector/coach being the same person. He signed a basically fraud deal with PTV and just implemented Imran Khan's wishes of a new domestic structure with little or no thinking going into what actually got rolled out. None of ths puts him ina good light, why should the media not have asked him tough questions?
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Exactly. The glorification of an incompetent failure like Wasim is laughable.

When he combined the coach & selector positions, he called it a necessary invention in Pakistan cricket.

However, when Misbah struggled to do justice to both positions at the same time, he discarded this so-called necessary invention.

As a result, we never found out if the dual role did not work or if Misbah was the wrong person.

Wasim was a disaster. One mistake after the other.
 
"Arthur told Sethi that the PCB management led by Ehsan Mani during the World Cup in 2019 had assured him his contract would be extended. But after Pakistan didn't make the semi-finals despite winning four matches on a trot his contract was not honoured."
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This is hilarious. It shows two things: Mickey’s sense of entitlement in spite of losing 80% of ODI matches in the last 8-9 months leading into the World Cup & also how incompetent & clueless Mani & Wasim were.

Why would you assure the coach that his contract will be extended before the World Cup? In other words, will the World Cup performance have no bearing on the coach’s future?

This is a joke. Surely it has to be.
 
Mamoon said:
This is hilarious. It shows two things: Mickey’s sense of entitlement in spite of losing 80% of ODI matches in the last 8-9 months leading into the World Cup & also how incompetent & clueless Mani & Wasim were.

Why would you assure the coach that his contract will be extended before the World Cup? In other words, will the World Cup performance have no bearing on the coach’s future?

This is a joke. Surely it has to be.
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Howcome people repeatedly overlook that Mickey was not able to figure out his first X1 in ODI's and tests, we went into 2019 WC not knowing our first X1.
 
Mamoon said:
This is hilarious. It shows two things: Mickey’s sense of entitlement in spite of losing 80% of ODI matches in the last 8-9 months leading into the World Cup & also how incompetent & clueless Mani & Wasim were.

Why would you assure the coach that his contract will be extended before the World Cup? In other words, will the World Cup performance have no bearing on the coach’s future?

This is a joke. Surely it has to be.
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Howcome people repeatedly overlook that Mickey was not able to figure out his first X1 in ODI's and tests, we went into 2019 WC not knowing our first X1.
 
Since Hashim Amla retired, PBC should try to get him as Coach. He played in PSL and should be good.
 
tigerman said:
Since Hashim Amla retired, PBC should try to get him as Coach. He played in PSL and should be good.
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You need to have coaching qualifications and experience to be a coach for an international team. Otherwise its just someones opinion. There needs to be a method.
 
Mamoon said:
This is hilarious. It shows two things: Mickey’s sense of entitlement in spite of losing 80% of ODI matches in the last 8-9 months leading into the World Cup & also how incompetent & clueless Mani & Wasim were.

Why would you assure the coach that his contract will be extended before the World Cup? In other words, will the World Cup performance have no bearing on the coach’s future?

This is a joke. Surely it has to be.
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With such a track record why was Sethi so desperate to have him back?
 
Wasim Akram in an interview:

"If you had asked me, I would have told you that foreign coaches will not come; everyone is afraid that the contract will also end if the board changes. If you are not getting a foreign coach, get the services of a Pakistan, the reason for the decline in the performance graph of fast bowlers in T20 cricket"
 
MenInG said:
Wasim Akram in an interview:

"If you had asked me, I would have told you that foreign coaches will not come; everyone is afraid that the contract will also end if the board changes. If you are not getting a foreign coach, get the services of a Pakistan, the reason for the decline in the performance graph of fast bowlers in T20 cricket"
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I understand coaches may be hesitant due to the chaotic political environment but surely a robust contract can be arranged that in the event of early termination the coach is paid his dues.
 
Inzi throws his name in the hat

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Former Pakistan cricketer and Chief Selector Inzamamul Haq has said if he will get an offer for coaching from Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), he will give it a thought.

Speaking with media in Lahore, the former batter said, “I have not been contacted by the board or being offered any post of chief selector or coach and if I will be given any offer, I will think about it.”

While backing Pakistan skipper Babar Azam, he said, “If any player has pressure on him, his performance gets affected. Babar’s performance in all three formats is phenomenal, he has no pressure on him but one learns captaincy with time. He must be given more time to lead the team.”

He further said cricket matches with other countries are always welcome whether the match is against Afghanistan or India. He said an international coach was not an answer to Pakistan’s woes, Pakistani coaches can also be a good option. “In my tenure, Mickey Arthur did well but now Saqlain Mushtaq and Mohammad Yousuf are also doing well. It is not about national or international coach, whoever has played cricket can coach.”

He also talked about the eighth edition of Pakistan Super League (PSL). “Matches should be played in all major cities including Peshawar. If PSL matches will be played in these cities then international teams will also agree to play at different venues,” he said.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2023/01/20/will-consider-if-pcb-offers-coaching-task-says-inzamam/
 
MenInG said:
Inzi throws his name in the hat

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Former Pakistan cricketer and Chief Selector Inzamamul Haq has said if he will get an offer for coaching from Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), he will give it a thought.

Speaking with media in Lahore, the former batter said, “I have not been contacted by the board or being offered any post of chief selector or coach and if I will be given any offer, I will think about it.”

While backing Pakistan skipper Babar Azam, he said, “If any player has pressure on him, his performance gets affected. Babar’s performance in all three formats is phenomenal, he has no pressure on him but one learns captaincy with time. He must be given more time to lead the team.”

He further said cricket matches with other countries are always welcome whether the match is against Afghanistan or India. He said an international coach was not an answer to Pakistan’s woes, Pakistani coaches can also be a good option. “In my tenure, Mickey Arthur did well but now Saqlain Mushtaq and Mohammad Yousuf are also doing well. It is not about national or international coach, whoever has played cricket can coach.”

He also talked about the eighth edition of Pakistan Super League (PSL). “Matches should be played in all major cities including Peshawar. If PSL matches will be played in these cities then international teams will also agree to play at different venues,” he said.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2023/01/20/will-consider-if-pcb-offers-coaching-task-says-inzamam/
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He was a good chief selector , who consistently backed players for performance , no grudges against anyone..

Performance in domestics and PSL were also rewarded.. he had good support from MA and Sarfraz and he did reciprocate that with trust and confidence ...

Inzi/MA/Sarfi Combo was much better in terms of team selection..
 
MenInG said:
Inzi throws his name in the hat

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Former Pakistan cricketer and Chief Selector Inzamamul Haq has said if he will get an offer for coaching from Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), he will give it a thought.

Speaking with media in Lahore, the former batter said, “I have not been contacted by the board or being offered any post of chief selector or coach and if I will be given any offer, I will think about it.”

While backing Pakistan skipper Babar Azam, he said, “If any player has pressure on him, his performance gets affected. Babar’s performance in all three formats is phenomenal, he has no pressure on him but one learns captaincy with time. He must be given more time to lead the team.”

He further said cricket matches with other countries are always welcome whether the match is against Afghanistan or India. He said an international coach was not an answer to Pakistan’s woes, Pakistani coaches can also be a good option. “In my tenure, Mickey Arthur did well but now Saqlain Mushtaq and Mohammad Yousuf are also doing well. It is not about national or international coach, whoever has played cricket can coach.”

He also talked about the eighth edition of Pakistan Super League (PSL). “Matches should be played in all major cities including Peshawar. If PSL matches will be played in these cities then international teams will also agree to play at different venues,” he said.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2023/01/20/will-consider-if-pcb-offers-coaching-task-says-inzamam/
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Another qudrat ka nizam incoming.
 
Surprising if it is Inzi as all along Sethi has said that he wants an overseas appointment as Head Coach.

If it as an overseas appointment then that shows that the people they wanted to hire have declined their offers.
 
Saj said:
Surprising if it is Inzi as all along Sethi has said that he wants an overseas appointment as Head Coach.

If it as an overseas appointment then that shows that the people they wanted to hire have declined their offers.
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Saj

Sethi said that he is still in discussion with Mickey Arthur for head coach, Sethi even asked Mickey to bring his own team.

He was very confident about him saying yes, and said that things will be clear in two to three days.
 
I think compensation package must be too good for Mickey to ignore plus a solid contract with assurity of two years salary if he is sacked before that
 
shah_1 said:
Saj

Sethi said that he is still in discussion with Mickey Arthur for head coach, Sethi even asked Mickey to bring his own team.

He was very confident about him saying yes, and said that things will be clear in two to three days.
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It appears that Mickey Arthur is the best PCB can do. Sethi must have offered him a higher salary, a higher severance pay and increased powers, a psl coaching gig and ability to switch back between derbyshire and Pakistan
 
Savak said:
It appears that Mickey Arthur is the best PCB can do. Sethi must have offered him a higher salary, a higher severance pay and increased powers, a psl coaching gig and ability to switch back between derbyshire and Pakistan
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It is impossible to coach Derbyshire and Pakistan together so he might come as a consultant
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickey Arthur remains PCB's first choice as Head Coach. Talks continue between both sides with the likely outcome being that a support staff will operate whilst Mickey is with Derbyshire <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1617485922920005638?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Looks like PCB is one of the poor cricket board among test nations. Even SL and BD offer money to attract top coaches. PCB is on par with WI and Zim board.
Why not they lower the expectation and hire Hature? He is tough, has good eye to identify talent, not scare to take decision to drop non-performers and will not be yes-man to Babar.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickey Arthur remains PCB's first choice as Head Coach. Talks continue between both sides with the likely outcome being that a support staff will operate whilst Mickey is with Derbyshire <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1617485922920005638?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2023</a></blockquote>
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If PCB is hiring Mickey Arthur.. then he should be a full time coach to Pak and not, switching between Pak and Derbyshire.. he should let go of derbyshire then..PCB should compensate for that and should formulate a strong contract that if he is sacked before his term ends..then he will be compensated….. if he continues with derbyshire..it will not only be embarrasing but also unfair with Pakistan team
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickey Arthur remains PCB's first choice as Head Coach. Talks continue between both sides with the likely outcome being that a support staff will operate whilst Mickey is with Derbyshire <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1617485922920005638?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2023</a></blockquote>
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What a shambolic setup would this be. Only in Pakistan

Sethi has been worse than Ramiz Raja.
 
Apparently the talks have broken down again

Sethi is turning out to be bigger clown than Ramiz Raja. Showing sign of age
 
Pakistan are set to appoint experienced South African Mickey Arthur for a second stint as head coach, a top cricket board official said on Monday.

The 54-year-old will replace Saqlain Mushtaq, whose contract expires next month.

"I am in negotiations with Mickey personally and we have covered 90 percent of the issues," Najam Sethi, chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board's management committee, said.

"Hopefully, very soon we may give you the news that Mickey will be joining us," he told a press conference in Lahore.

Sethi said Arthur will have his own team of support staff.

"I think the issues will be solved in the next two to three days and Mickey will come with support staff," added Sethi.

Under Arthur's tenure as head coach between 2016 and 2019, Pakistan won the Champions Trophy and became number one in the Twenty20 international rankings.

But his contract was not renewed after Pakistan failed to reach the semi-finals of the 2019 World Cup.

Arthur is currently serving as head coach of Derbyshire in England on a three-year contract.

He has vast experience, having also coached his native South Africa, Australia and Sri Lanka.

Pakistan cricket is going through a number of changes after PCB chairman Ramiz Raja was removed last month.

Raja was replaced by a 14-member committee led by Sethi.

Former batsman Haroon Rasheed was also appointed as chief selector, replacing Shahid Afridi, who served on an interim basis for one month.

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Mickey Arthur trying his best to triple dip. Reflects very poorly on him
 
muqarrab said:
Is Mickey best pakistan can do and most pakistan can afford?

What a terrile choice.
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He was horrible as a coach for Pakistan.

Even in the PSL, he was absolutely terrible, his team also played shambolic cricket.

Sethi is becoming one incompetent person.
 
Hawkeye said:
He was horrible as a coach for Pakistan.

Even in the PSL, he was absolutely terrible, his team also played shambolic cricket.

Sethi is becoming one incompetent person.
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Mickey has plenty of fans on this forum. What does it say about his fans?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#56803; "You want to be part of this project!"<br><br>Head of Cricket, <a href="https://twitter.com/Mickeyarthurcr1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Mickeyarthurcr1</a>, has a message for supporters ahead of next week's Early Bird deadline &#55356;&#57295;<br><br>Buy now and save ⤵️</p>— Derbyshire CCC (@DerbyshireCCC) <a href="https://twitter.com/DerbyshireCCC/status/1617839731580047360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Doesn't look like he is coming to PCB
 
Feel bad for Derbyshire. Their plans are being rocked as well.

Tbf to them, they have a better chance of hiring a proper coach if Arthur goes than Pakistan does at hiring a reputable foreign coach
 
One thing I’ll give this PCB is that at least they have been proactive and determined to sign an overseas coach at all costs

Ramiz and co. knew Saqlain’s contract was ending in February, but what evidence do we have that they were actively searching for an international quality coach to take over? The old PCB was so happy to let things go unaccounted
 
The infatuation with Micky Arthur should stop, ain't he and Babar flopped at Karachi Kings
 
Mickey Arthur is one useless coach. He knows he is conning Pakistan by playing hard to get and the Pakistani management is falling for his shenanigans.

He's a terrible coach that got exposed, first with Australia, then with Pakistan and finally with Sri Lanka.

Why would anyone appoint a coach that decided that playing 3 fast bowlers in the UAE was a good strategy. Got duly whitewashed. It was under him that Pakistan became a joke in UAE conditions as well.
 
Mickey Arthur is one useless coach. He knows he is conning Pakistan by playing hard to get and the Pakistani management is falling for his shenanigans.
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Derbyshire are the key. He is their coach, he is their employee, it's their call whether they allow this sharing him as a coach with PCB.

I think it's out of PCB and Mickey Arthur's hands.
 
muqarrab said:
Is Mickey best pakistan can do and most pakistan can afford?

What a terrile choice.
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Pretty much. We have groomed nobody within Pakistan to have credentials for the role, and nobody outside with any reputability will touch us.

We are therefore resorting to begging on our knees for a failed ex-coach who isn't even all that keen to join us again.

It's almost as if all the chopping and changing, lack of accountability and overexpectations means we have shot ourselves in the foot....massively.
 
Saj said:
Derbyshire are the key. He is their coach, he is their employee, it's their call whether they allow this sharing him as a coach with PCB.

I think it's out of PCB and Mickey Arthur's hands.
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The whole sharing idea between two jobs is extremely unfeasible considering there is a clash with international tours. Why would PCB be happy with this?

Najam Sethi is turning out to be a proper joker
 
shah_1 said:
The whole sharing idea between two jobs is extremely unfeasible considering there is a clash with international tours. Why would PCB be happy with this?

Najam Sethi is turning out to be a proper joker
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So, enjoy the circus. U dont get watch circus now a days in internet era. PCB has brought it for u.
 
As per Majid bhatti, Mickey Arthur will not be available to Pak in july Srilanka test series and even in Asia cup.. fue to derbyshire’s conmittments
In Mixkey’s absence, assistant coach will perform duties ..

So Asia cup whixh is most important tournament for Pakistan’s preparation for worldcup, mickey will not be there

This arrangement has been turned down by PCB earlier, but for some unknown reason we have taken a uturn and are now agreeing to this arrangement, which will not only be embarrasing but also unfair to Pak team.. dont know why we are so obsessed with Mickey

Najam Sethi is being proven as a big joker in this term
 
How come Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Afghanistan can get top coaches where PCB fail to get any. Is our cricket board really that poor?
 
I ll take Muhammad Akram as full time coach. Or even Abdur Razaq Indtead of this weird arrangment. Mickey is not even close to being a tactical genius for whom we d make so much compromises.
Idk but i feel m wasim was a better coach then a selector
 
Or just make a good appointment of director
And bring in some good players for consultancy role
Maybe even akhtar or as bowling consultant
Amla or jayawerdane as batting consultant
 
Apparently Mickey is being hired as a consultant. He will be responsible for recruiting an assistant coach, bowling coach, batting coach, fielding coach, trainers for the PCB. When Mickey will be busy with Derbyshire, he will be communicating with his team virtually and when the English county season is over, he will be physically present with the Pakistani team.

Can't blame Mickey here, the manner in which the PCB let him go in 2019, he is sensible to watch out fo his interests
 
Savak said:
Apparently Mickey is being hired as a consultant. He will be responsible for recruiting an assistant coach, bowling coach, batting coach, fielding coach, trainers for the PCB. When Mickey will be busy with Derbyshire, he will be communicating with his team virtually and when the English county season is over, he will be physically present with the Pakistani team.

Can't blame Mickey here, the manner in which the PCB let him go in 2019, he is sensible to watch out fo his interests
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If Mickey is being hired as a consultant..then he should remain as a consultant pnly, and there should be a proper head coach, along with assistant coach and other support staff.

Pak team needs a head coach who is mainly a good tactician and is involved in planning and making strategies for the teamand helps babar become a proper captain..

Mickey cant do this, while being away and it doesnt come under assistant coach job..

There should be a proper head coach..rather than mickey getting this title and being away from the team..

PCB should hire a proper head coach.. also why should mickey be paid heavily when almost half of the time he wont be available to the team?

He should be paid as a consultant only
 
Mickey began his ‘consulting’ duties as soon as Shan Masood was appointed vc

This was Mickey’s call and not Sethi’s. Mickey could tell Sethi to appoint an elephant as the VC of Pakistan and Sethi will do it.
 
According to various reports in Pakistani media, the PCB is set to name Arthur as the world's first-ever online head coach. The arrangement will see Arthur available for players in an online mode while a team of assistants oversees the team's progress on the ground in the head coach's absence. Arthur has reportedly assured the board that he will join the team for their campaign in the 2023 ODI World Cup in India.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...st-online-head-coach-reports-article-97444799
 
What a joke Najam Sethi is turning out to be. N-League, please take him over to caretaker CM.
 
Apparently Mickey Arthur's official title will be Pakistan Team Director.

Grant Bradburn will be the team's assistance coach and will be Mickey's eyes, ears with the team and will be liasing b/w Mickey and the team.

A seperate batting, bowling and fielding coach will also be appointed.

The biggest decision is the appointment of Rehan ul Haq from Islamabad United as the Team Manager. He is apparently the pioneer of Islamabad United's data driven approach and he is going to be expected to bring a similar culture to the Pakistani team.

Interesting out of the box approach but why not, there is nothing to lose. Surely this arrangement cannot be any worse than what we experienced with Saqlain Mushtaq.
 
Savak said:
Apparently Mickey Arthur's official title will be Pakistan Team Director.

Grant Bradburn will be the team's assistance coach and will be Mickey's eyes, ears with the team and will be liasing b/w Mickey and the team.

A seperate batting, bowling and fielding coach will also be appointed.

The biggest decision is the appointment of Rehan ul Haq from Islamabad United as the Team Manager. He is apparently the pioneer of Islamabad United's data driven approach and he is going to be expected to bring a similar culture to the Pakistani team.

Interesting out of the box approach but why not, there is nothing to lose. Surely this arrangement cannot be any worse than what we experienced with Saqlain Mushtaq.
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Ok, so there’s a few things:

1) This will only work if Bradburn has the authority to make tough decisions in the team. I’m sure that Mickey will do his bit to set the tone, but there’s so much you can do from afar. The PCB need to throw their weight behind Bradburn to make this arrangement work.

2) Getting Rehan ul Haq in is probably the best thing the PCB can do. He’s revolutionised ISLU’s data driven approach, which has helped them pick relevant performers from the domestic scene. He should be able to give Mickey/Bradburn the relevant info to maximise the squad’s potential.

Ideally Mickey would be here himself, but given the scarcity of actual, able candidates, this is probably the best case scenario.
 
This is such a stupid and weird idea. In many ways, its hard to fathom.

First off, the appointment of Rehan-ul-Haq as team manager is a welcome one. I've been reading his pieces for years and have followed what he has done with Islamabad United. If anything, we need more guys like him and Hassan Cheema in our set-up. As is the the appointment of an assistant coach and a separate batting, bowling and fielding coach. That's how professional sports set-ups work.

But the idea of Mickey coaching Pakistan virtually is absolutely absurd. And yeah, he is an "online coach" as people are labelling him, contrary to what the PCB may say. Because he will not be with the team for every series.

I get that he achieved some good things when he was Pakistan coach. But for goodness sake, he is not a Phil Jackson or a Alex Ferguson. It's also obvious that he does not care enough for this job to leave his current job for a freakin' English county team.
 
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Oh dear Lord. What next? A virtual bowling coach who will run the bowling machine from home?

This idiot sethi thinks he's clever like his boss and he will sink the ship.

As for the data approach.. well good idea if you have a domestic system to back it up..at the rate we are going we will have a hotchpotch system run by babus for their children and Politicians.

How can the team respect a coach who can't be bothered to turn up to some tough series? Why not just make Grant the head coach and mickey the Director? Or better yet just make grant the head coach and be done with this stupid idea..

I expect the sethi is great fans to now come and acclaimed this monumentally stupid idea as the next big thing...
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
This is such a stupid and weird idea. In many ways, its hard to fathom.

First off, the appointment of Rehan-ul-Haq as team manager is a welcome one. I've been reading his pieces for years and have followed what he has done with Islamabad United. If anything, we need more guys like him and Hassan Cheema in our set-up. As is the the appointment of an assistant coach and a separate batting, bowling and fielding coach. That's how professional sports set-ups work.

But the idea of Mickey coaching Pakistan virtually is absolutely absurd. And yeah, he is an "online coach" as people are labelling him, contrary to what the PCB may say. Because he will not be with the team for every series.

I get that he achieved some good things when he was Pakistan coach. But for goodness sake, he is not a Phil Jackson or a Alex Ferguson. It's also obvious that he does not care enough for this job to leave his current job for a freakin' English county team.
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It's not that. He doesn't want to get ousted by Misbah again.
 
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It's not that. He doesn't want to get ousted by Misbah again.
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Misbah is nowhere near the national set-up right now.

And if he is that insecure about losing a job, he hasn't even accepted yet, maybe he shouldn't be accepting it to begin with.
 
shariqnoor said:
Mickey Arthur is one useless coach. He knows he is conning Pakistan by playing hard to get and the Pakistani management is falling for his shenanigans.

He's a terrible coach that got exposed, first with Australia, then with Pakistan and finally with Sri Lanka.

Why would anyone appoint a coach that decided that playing 3 fast bowlers in the UAE was a good strategy. Got duly whitewashed. It was under him that Pakistan became a joke in UAE conditions as well.
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Said it before. He is conning Pakistan so blatantly and the whole PCB is bending over backwards for him. Lol.

Mickey realized that he could milk Pakistan to the last drop when Najam Sethi publicly announced that he wanted a foreign coach and Mickey Arthur in particular was name dropped. After that Mickey had all the leverage and now he has made a mockery of the PCB. Getting hired as a team director without being with the team and he will give online lectures now? Lol. This is the first time I've seen a work-from-home coaching assignment in all of sports. Hilarious.
 
Rehan-ul-Haq should be the head coach, Haider Azhar team manager and Hassan Cheema as the data analyst. They have more knowledge and the intelligence of cricket in their little fingers than the likes of Wasim, Waqar, Mickey, Saqlain combined.

A head coach doesn't go and correct player's batting and bowling techniques. That's the job of bowling and batting coaches. A head coach needs to be smart to devise strategies which none of our cricketers can come up. Pakistan needs to get rid itself of past cricketers. They are so illiterate in cricket beyond their own batting/bowling skill, it's not even funny anymore.
 
Ridiculous. Mickey is not a great coach anymore. Look at Sri Lanka, they sacked him too. Our results were not great and only went into decline after the CT 2017 when we should have been using that as a platform to get stronger. There's a reason why no other international team want him, and Sri Lanka mostly got him thinking he could pull off a tournament win. He wasn't a particularly good man manager either, flaming his players in public, too overly emotional and poor statements. Failed in the PSL too, despite largely having the best players when he was in charge. Mickey ran his course and was given enough time.

If you can't get a good foreign coach, go for a domestic one. At least they will know how to read asian conditions. Would love Andy Flower, you can see the work he's doing for Multan. We also wrongly passed up Dean Jones sadly who did well year in PSL.

But really since we will struggle to get the best foreign coaches, there should be a system in place where Pakistan domestic coaches are eligible for the job. There's less language barrier with them too. Even when we appoint coaches for the national team, they are often just big names, they don't even have a successful history of coaching success/experience behind them.
 
Mickey trying to milk Sethi the clown as much as possible

They should appoint Mickey as Team director or a similar role to what Rob Key or Strauss was appointed by ECB.
 
Guessing the next 2 years everyone will complain how poor Arthur is ignoring the fact Pakistan have had make shifts coaches for the past few years
 
Sethi is courting Micky likes he’s the only coach available on planet earth. If he hires Micky as an online coach for half the year it will go down as the most idiotic and pathetic decision this senile man has made.
 
shariqnoor said:
Rehan-ul-Haq should be the head coach, Haider Azhar team manager and Hassan Cheema as the data analyst. They have more knowledge and the intelligence of cricket in their little fingers than the likes of Wasim, Waqar, Mickey, Saqlain combined.

A head coach doesn't go and correct player's batting and bowling techniques. That's the job of bowling and batting coaches. A head coach needs to be smart to devise strategies which none of our cricketers can come up. Pakistan needs to get rid itself of past cricketers. They are so illiterate in cricket beyond their own batting/bowling skill, it's not even funny anymore.
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Not doubting what you’re saying but who are these randoms?
 
The onus of the blame lies on Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani who completely fell off the international coach market when they hired Misbah and Waqar

Mickey Arthur should have been replaced by a reputable International coach or the intention to hire one should have been made clear by the PCB

3 years have passed and more T20 leagues are around. Who doesn’t want a part time T20 gig as coach instead of a full time Pakistan international coach job?
 
This is not a bad idea if we got Mickey on board for a cheap price.

It always depends on the price.
 
Overall its not the worst situation.

I like the support side and the data driven approach.

I don't like Mickey as the online coach though. It could have worked if we had a head coach and Mickey was involved as director of cricket.
 
Seems like Derbyshire have dug their heels and said that Arthur is their man and if he wants to work for PCB then it will be on their terms and Derbyshire will get priority.
 
Rana said:
The onus of the blame lies on Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani who completely fell off the international coach market when they hired Misbah and Waqar

Mickey Arthur should have been replaced by a reputable International coach or the intention to hire one should have been made clear by the PCB

3 years have passed and more T20 leagues are around. Who doesn’t want a part time T20 gig as coach instead of a full time Pakistan international coach job?
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To be honest, these two individuals turned out to be spineless because they let the PTI government and the prime minister Imran Khan dictate everything to them.

Apparently Ehsan Mani and Wasim Khan had pleaded with IK not to abolish the departments yet because their proposed 10 team regional structure needed time to mature and show results and the players should be allowed the security of department cricket in the mean time. IK bulldozed them and told them to get rid of departments and to strictly have a six team structure period.

Ehsan Mani, Wasim Khan and the PCB Cricket Committee had given Mickey several assurances that he would be offered a fresh 2 year contract after the end of the 2019 ODI WC. However the prime minister vetoed the PCB and demanded Mickey be fired, Sarfaraz be replaced and Misbah be appointed as head coach instead.

Who in their right frame of mind will ever trust the word of PCB officials, Pakistani government officials?

End result of the Steve Rixon, Mickey Arthur episode is that no reputable coach will come to Pakistan full time.
 
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