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realy sad news
I agree, it's really sad that he only resigned from one of the two roles.
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realy sad news
How many coaches have we had in the last 2 decades, and none make much of a difference. If Misbah was sacked would the team become world beaters, no is the answer. We came close to beating England and should have at least down the series. Misbah is too Conservative with his selections with the likes of Malik, Hafeez, AA and AS still around. He needs to pick younger batsman and let them play. But even if he goes, I don't see any coaches with a magic wand solving our perennial problems.
Mamoon has some sort of an alert where anything related even loosely to the PTI triggers a negative post.
Making a so called u-turn is actually what progressive organizations do. The old tactic would have been to double down and refuse to admit the decision didn’t work out. It’s recognized as an error, they’ve corrected and learned from it and are moving on.
Can you tell me who will be responsible if we lose. The problem with some people is that any change is seen as a threat. I think the role with one person was a good move but Misbah is not suited to it. Your points are always political but just like the new Domestic structure has bedded down and started to show green shoots, so would have this move.
Anything positive related to Pakistan triggers it to be honest from him.
When you hire an inexperienced employee in a high profile role and he fails to deliver, sure you fire the employee and hold him responsible.
However, you also have to hold the employers accountable and ask them to explain why they hired a person who literally had zero prior experience either as a coach or a selector.
Mani and Wasim should definitely face accountability but obviously they won’t because they are politician appointments.
Your point that the dual role was good but Misbah was not the right man for it makes no sense.
If that is the case, why did the abandon the dual role instead of firing Misbah altogether, and giving a new person the dual role?
So let me get this straight - the dual role was good but Misbah is not, so PCB’s genius solution is to trash the dual role and revert to the old model but keep the person who is supposedly the problem?
How does that even make sense?
This is embarrassing for Wasim and Mani and they have basically conceded either of the following, or perhaps both:
(1) they admit that the dual role experiment blew up in their faces and now they have to revert to the old model
OR
(2) Misbah holds too much power over them and they would rather abandon the dual role that they believe in just to keep Misbah in the job.
None of the above options make them look any good or credible.
Poor stuff by misbah. He should had not resigned but allowed to be fired.
Had he been fired, he would had recieved half the salary. By resigning he let that slide
There is nothing progressive about Mani and Wasim. Besides, they need to answer the following question:
What credentials do they see in Misbah the coach that they don’t see in Misbah the selector? What boxes does he tick as coach but he doesn’t as selector?
Why wasn’t Misbah sacked as coach but retained as selector?
Do you think they will answer this let alone provide a satisfactory answer?
So please don’t talk about them recognizing their error and taking corrective measures. They don’t have a clue over what error they made and how they should be correcting it.
He will get full salary. The resignation is just a eye wash. Don't worry.
When you hire an inexperienced employee in a high profile role and he fails to deliver, sure you fire the employee and hold him responsible.
However, you also have to hold the employers accountable and ask them to explain why they hired a person who literally had zero prior experience either as a coach or a selector.
Mani and Wasim should definitely face accountability but obviously they won’t because they are politician appointments.
Your point that the dual role was good but Misbah was not the right man for it makes no sense.
If that is the case, why did the abandon the dual role instead of firing Misbah altogether, and giving a new person the dual role?
So let me get this straight - the dual role was good but Misbah is not, so PCB’s genius solution is to trash the dual role and revert to the old model but keep the person who is supposedly the problem?
How does that even make sense?
This is embarrassing for Wasim and Mani and they have basically conceded either of the following, or perhaps both:
(1) they admit that the dual role experiment blew up in their faces and now they have to revert to the old model
OR
(2) Misbah holds too much power over them and they would rather abandon the dual role that they believe in just to keep Misbah in the job.
None of the above options make them look any good or credible.
So the guys that came up with the idea are incompetent? Really? Normally innovation doesn't come from incompetent people. And not getting the right person in Sport is par for the course. How many Sporting appointments are successful, very few. How long does a coach get in the NF, EPL or any other team Sport. If the failure of the people being hired is always a reflection on the recruiters then we would have a hell of lot of sackings upstairs.
So far WK and Mani has done a solid job. They have reformed and awful Domestic scene with vigour, withstanding immense pressure from interest groups. For the 1st time, in a long time we have young players being given a full chance in FC.
The idea of a Director of cricket with all encompassing powers was mooted by me a few years ago on this forum. I wanted someone to take control of all cricketing matters and would take responsibility for wins and losses. He would hire all the coaches, and do everything to do with cricket. The problem with Misbah is that he is too Conservative and he knows the current crop of batsman too well and lacked the ruthlessness needed to deal with the likes of AA,AS,Malik and Hafeez. Right idea, wrong person.
A very valid point. And the more you think about it the more you wonder the incompetency of the PCB as a collective board. No wonder we're stuck in the stone age. If there's no merit to the highest-paying job in the institution, then what merit can we expect when it comes to the smaller player positions.
Innovation can come from incompetent people as well. There is both good and bad innovation, and this particular example is either a bad innovation or Mani and Wasim don’t have the spine to take on Misbah. So what is it?
You said the dual role was a great idea but Misbah was the wrong person. So if that is the case, why haven’t they sacked Misbah and replaced him with a new person in this dual role?
They are either afraid to take on Misbah and tell him to go home or they have no faith in their so-called innovation, which is why they trashed it after just one year and more importantly, only one person on the job.
The reformation of the domestic system is based on the vision of the PM with no input from this duo. However, that is a different topic because it has nothing to do with their shambolic handling of the Misbah situation over the past 12 months.
Waqar needs to be exposed and kicked out as soon as possible. That guy gets away doing nothing
There is nothing progressive about Mani and Wasim. Besides, they need to answer the following question:
What credentials do they see in Misbah the coach that they don’t see in Misbah the selector? What boxes does he tick as coach but he doesn’t as selector?
Why wasn’t Misbah sacked as coach but retained as selector?
Do you think they will answer this let alone provide a satisfactory answer?
So please don’t talk about them recognizing their error and taking corrective measures. They don’t have a clue over what error they made and how they should be correcting it.
realy sad news
Poor stuff by misbah. He should had not resigned but allowed to be fired.
Had he been fired, he would had recieved half the salary. By resigning he let that slide
Waqar needs to be exposed and kicked out as soon as possible. That guy gets away doing nothing
When is he leaving. Enough of this awful selections
Hes the worst coach I have seen and even worse selector surely the pcb have to act now losing even one game to Zimbabwe is beyond a joke not acceptable
Hes the worst coach I have seen and even worse selector surely the pcb have to act now losing even one game to Zimbabwe is beyond a joke not acceptable
Its quite scary, if we can lose to a team like Zimbabwe, then we could potentially lose to Oman and Netherlands who are ranked higher than Zimbs.
Even the first ODI we were well on our way to losing if it wasn't for Zim choking and brilliance from Shaheen and Wahab.
Babar doesn't seem cut out for captaincy. Meanwhile Misbah is the worst thing to happen to Pakistan cricket. Lovely combination.