Mobs burn Christian churches, homes in Pakistan after blasphemy allegations

[MenInG]

Police found evidence of a foreign conspiracy behind the recent Jaranwala incident and the Sargodha blasphemy case, hatched to divert attention away from the ill-treatment of the Christians community in India, Punjab Inspector General (IG) Dr Usman Anwar said on Monday.

Addressing a press conference at his office, Dr Anwar said that it transpired during the investigation that the two accused arrested over the Sargodha blasphemy case had links to the hostile agency, which hatched the plot to divert the attention from their country towards Pakistan.

Express Tribune

 

[WicketLord]

TOBA TEK SINGH: A Faisalabad duty magistrate granted physical remand on Wednesday until Sept 9 for 115 people arrested in the Jaranwala riots that occurred on Aug 16.

The police said the accused were arrested by the Jaranwala City police under four FIR numbers: 1260, 1261, 1262, and 1263, as well as FIR number 467 from Lundianwala police.

DAWN NEWS

 

[WicketLord]

The Faisalabad Anti-Terrorism Court on Friday sent 83 Jaranwala riot suspects on physical remand until Sept 9.

At the end of their physical remand, they were produced before the court with a request to grant further remand for investigation.

DAWN NEWS

 

[WicketLord]

The Faisalabad Anti-Terrorism Court on Tuesday extended the physical remand of 32 suspects allegedly involved in the Jaranwala riots case (FIR 1262) for five days.

The extension was granted on Tuesday following a request from the Jaranwala city police to further investigate the matter. The suspects were presented before the court after the expiry of their previous five-day remand.

Meanwhile, Faisalabad SSP Operations Dr. Muhammad Rizwan and Madina Town SP Hafiz Kamran Asghar convened a meeting on Tuesday with FCCI President Dr. Khurram Tariq and other office-bearers.

During the meeting, it was decided that all factory owners would establish minority cells to promptly address any issues that may arise between Muslim and Christian community workers in order to prevent situations similar to the one that occurred in Jaranwala. Such situations often result from the spread of baseless rumours by miscreants.

Remand of 32 suspects in Jaranwala case extended

Scores of citizens stage protest outside Fesco complex in Samundri to denounce inflated electricity bills.

www.dawn.com

 

[Champ_Pal]

Police found evidence of a foreign conspiracy behind the recent Jaranwala incident and the Sargodha blasphemy case, hatched to divert attention away from the ill-treatment of the Christians community in India, Punjab Inspector General (IG) Dr Usman Anwar said on Monday.

Addressing a press conference at his office, Dr Anwar said that it transpired during the investigation that the two accused arrested over the Sargodha blasphemy case had links to the hostile agency, which hatched the plot to divert the attention from their country towards Pakistan.

Express Tribune

So Pakistan's blasphemy law is an Indian conspiracy according to the Pak Punjab IG.

 

[FPresidential]

So Pakistan's blasphemy law is an Indian conspiracy according to the Pak Punjab IG.

Relax! no Pakistani are taking them seriously, so you shouldn't either. It is naya Pakistan where people do not believe anything that comes out of the mouth of government officials in Pakistan.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

PPPP appalled by Sanjrani’s move on Jaranwala mayhem

The PPPP has found itself at odds with the custodian of the house and the Senate secretariat over the requisition of a session to discuss the Jaranwala incident. Hundreds of Muslim men vandalised dozens of homes and torched churches in a Christian neighbourhood on the pretext of blasphemy, raising concerns over religious tensions in the country.

The controversy surrounding the Senate session requisition emerged after the Senate secretariat rejected the PPPP's request, citing discrepancies in the signatures of several senators.

The PPPP while feeling deeply disappointed by the Senate's decision accused Chairman, Sadiq Sanjrani, and the secretariat of blocking their move to discuss this disturbing incident on the upper house’s floor.

“The Pakistan Peoples Party is gravely disappointed and dismayed over disallowing requisition of the Senate to discuss the recent Jaranwala mayhem in the name of religion,” former senator Farhatullah Babar said.

In a statement, the PPPP secretary general revealed that 27 senators had submitted a signed requisition notice in the Senate secretariat on Sept 1 under clause 3 of Article 54 read with Article 61 of the Constitution. The notice was submitted on their behalf by PPP Senator Shahadat Awan. However, Babar added, five days later in a letter dated Sept 6, the Senate secretariat said that the signatures of five PPP senators on the requisition motion “do not match with their signatures on the Roll of the Members” and, therefore, the “requisition does not fulfil the requirements for summoning of the Senate session by the Honorable Senate chairman”.

The Senate secretariat said signatures of Farooq H Naek, Mian Raza Rabbani, Palwasha Mohammad Zai Khan, Rubina Khalid and Shamim Afridi did not match.

In addition, it was also declared that the signature of Senator Muhammad Akram did not match with that on the ‘Roll of the Members’.

Expressing dismay over it, Babar said that it was surprising that the Senate secretariat did not call any one of these six senators to confirm whether they had signed the requisition notice or not.

Instead, he said, it unilaterally concluded that the signatures did not match and thus the number of senators required to sign a requisition fell below the mandatory number and rejected the requisition notice.


Tribune

 

[FearlessRoar]

Upon the request of the Lahore High Court to form a judicial commission to investigate the Jardanwala tragedy, the caretaker Punjab government refused to form a judicial commission on the Jardanwala tragedy.

Additional Advocate General Punjab Ghulam Sarwar Nahang informed the Lahore High Court about the government's decision, the government lawyer said that the Punjab government has formed a JIT to investigate the matter, the government cannot form a judicial commission on this matter.

Justice Asim Hafeez of Lahore High Court heard the request of Bishop Azad Marshall.

Source: Dunya News

 

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Can you back your claim with statistics?

yes, India a country that gathers a mob to attack one Muslim for having a relationship with a non Muslim is more tolerant than any other country on Earth. What’s next, there’s more rape cases on the freakin’ moon than in India?

Mob Lynching

Rape/gang rape

Destroying religious sites

How often do you hear about this stuff happening outside of India and Pakistan?

you are Categorically, horribly, absolutely wrong about India. And here is the BIG stat to prove that:
1. More Muslims in India than in Pakistan and approx 6 times multiplication since 1947. (Compare that to the ppopulation of minorities in Pakistan )
2. I'am not aware of any Muslim trying to seek Asylum in neighboring Muslim countries due to religious persecution.

Now lets talk about the other side of the coin: How many Hindus in Pakistan have indulged in gross human rights violations like those who were responsible for the ethnic cleansing/ exodus of Pandits in Kashmir ? ZERO!!

Forget Kashmiri Pandits .... how many Godhra like incidents have happened in Pakistan ? ( If you think this implies that Pakistan is a haven for minorities then there cannot be any honest conversation that one can have with you !!) .

 

[YousafTheBeast]

you are Categorically, horribly, absolutely wrong about India. And here is the BIG stat to prove that:
1. More Muslims in India than in Pakistan and approx 6 times multiplication since 1947. (Compare that to the ppopulation of minorities in Pakistan )
2. I'am not aware of any Muslim trying to seek Asylum in neighboring Muslim countries due to religious persecution.

Now lets talk about the other side of the coin: How many Hindus in Pakistan have indulged in gross human rights violations like those who were responsible for the ethnic cleansing/ exodus of Pandits in Kashmir ? ZERO!!

Forget Kashmiri Pandits .... how many Godhra like incidents have happened in Pakistan ? ( If you think this implies that Pakistan is a haven for minorities then there cannot be any honest conversation that one can have with you !!) .

What was I wrong about?

So, because Muslims in India aren’t running away it means that they’re not being persecuted based on their religion?

Clearly you just woke up when you read my post, read the last 2 lines in my post. Nowhere did I say Pakistan is a country free from religious persecution.

Majority of Pakistani’s will condemn any attack on religious minorities, there’s a small minority of extremists that wouldn’t care about it. However, it’s the complete opposite in India, the majority in India have fallen into the extremist bracket.

 

[topspin]

Comparing India with Pakistan is like comparing apples with oranges. India has a population of about 140 corores with about 20 crore being muslims. There is obviously going to be riots from time to time. But the difference between India and Pakistan is that the state doesn't discrimante anyone based on religion. A muslim has been a president of India but in Pakistan a hindu cannot be one as per its consitition. Dr Abdul Kalam headed our missile programs, will pakistan ever trust a non-muslim to trust such a program? How did Pakistan treat Dr Abdus Salam?

Does Indian passport say so and so person is not a muslim or hindu or christian? State and religion are separated and no governemnt policy is there nor is it written in constitution that will disallow a minority to hold any office.

Now coming to the mistreatment of muslims. If muslims in India were treated as hindus in pakistan why is it that muslim population has increased in India but dwindled in Pakistan? Have you heard of any muslim girl forcibly kidnapped and converted? In India its not just muslim girls that are raped. The infamous Nirbhaya case of Delhi which shook the conscience of teh nation is an example.

If Pakistan opens its doors to Indian muslims today how many muslims do you think will be ready to go to Pakistan? It will be less than 1%. Whereas if India opens its doors not just hindus but even muslims will be ready to migrate to India. when a temple was proposed to be built in Islamabad it was vehemently opposed and finally cancelled whereas in India we have masjids in every city, town and village where muslims live. In India muslims participae in Holi unlike pakistan where university bans it.

In india a hindu tailor is killed by 2 muslim men related to blasphemy. Has any minority killed a muslim in pakistan due to blasphemy? Akbaruddin Owaisi in a public speech abuses hindu gods and also threatens to keep the police aside for 15 mins and he will show what muslims are capable off. Can a hindu in pakistan threaten anyone? Have you heard of any muslim being falsely incrimanated for burning a Gita or Bible? There are hundreds of false cases in Pakistan just so that they have personal enmity.

In India Ramzan, Bakrid and Christmas are public holidays just like Diwali, Dussehra etc. Does Pakistan have a public holiday for non-muslim festivals? In Fact hindu students were attacked for celebrating Holi.

A hindu politician In pakistan has said in national assembly that he was asked by his felloe collegaues to convert. If a politician faces this what about poor labourers in interior sindh. Mittu Miyya of Sindh has openly claimed to have converetd 100s of girls but no action against him. why is it that hindu girls always fall in love with men twice their age and not boys of their own age? why is it that no muslim girl falls in love with hindu and elopes to get married?

India has its right wing hindu groups just like it has right wing muslim groups like PFI and SIMI. But none of these stop muslims from achieving their dreams. Nikhat Zareen wins a gold medal in boxing at CWG and world championship (not sure if Pakistan ever produced a female boxer), Khans rule bollywood, Lt Gen Syed Ata Husnain commands a core in indian army, Azim Premji is one of the richest indian, abdul kalam becomes a scientist. Opportunities are not provided based on religion but rather on skills and talent.

Good post. Unfortunately, there are a number of posters here who overlook how minorities are treated in Pakistan.

 

[DJhant]

Comparing India with Pakistan is like comparing apples with oranges. India has a population of about 140 corores with about 20 crore being muslims. There is obviously going to be riots from time to time. But the difference between India and Pakistan is that the state doesn't discrimante anyone based on religion. A muslim has been a president of India but in Pakistan a hindu cannot be one as per its consitition. Dr Abdul Kalam headed our missile programs, will pakistan ever trust a non-muslim to trust such a program? How did Pakistan treat Dr Abdus Salam?

Does Indian passport say so and so person is not a muslim or hindu or christian? State and religion are separated and no governemnt policy is there nor is it written in constitution that will disallow a minority to hold any office.

Now coming to the mistreatment of muslims. If muslims in India were treated as hindus in pakistan why is it that muslim population has increased in India but dwindled in Pakistan? Have you heard of any muslim girl forcibly kidnapped and converted? In India its not just muslim girls that are raped. The infamous Nirbhaya case of Delhi which shook the conscience of teh nation is an example.

If Pakistan opens its doors to Indian muslims today how many muslims do you think will be ready to go to Pakistan? It will be less than 1%. Whereas if India opens its doors not just hindus but even muslims will be ready to migrate to India. when a temple was proposed to be built in Islamabad it was vehemently opposed and finally cancelled whereas in India we have masjids in every city, town and village where muslims live. In India muslims participae in Holi unlike pakistan where university bans it.

In india a hindu tailor is killed by 2 muslim men related to blasphemy. Has any minority killed a muslim in pakistan due to blasphemy? Akbaruddin Owaisi in a public speech abuses hindu gods and also threatens to keep the police aside for 15 mins and he will show what muslims are capable off. Can a hindu in pakistan threaten anyone? Have you heard of any muslim being falsely incrimanated for burning a Gita or Bible? There are hundreds of false cases in Pakistan just so that they have personal enmity.

In India Ramzan, Bakrid and Christmas are public holidays just like Diwali, Dussehra etc. Does Pakistan have a public holiday for non-muslim festivals? In Fact hindu students were attacked for celebrating Holi.

A hindu politician In pakistan has said in national assembly that he was asked by his felloe collegaues to convert. If a politician faces this what about poor labourers in interior sindh. Mittu Miyya of Sindh has openly claimed to have converetd 100s of girls but no action against him. why is it that hindu girls always fall in love with men twice their age and not boys of their own age? why is it that no muslim girl falls in love with hindu and elopes to get married?

India has its right wing hindu groups just like it has right wing muslim groups like PFI and SIMI. But none of these stop muslims from achieving their dreams. Nikhat Zareen wins a gold medal in boxing at CWG and world championship (not sure if Pakistan ever produced a female boxer), Khans rule bollywood, Lt Gen Syed Ata Husnain commands a core in indian army, Azim Premji is one of the richest indian, abdul kalam becomes a scientist. Opportunities are not provided based on religion but rather on skills and talent.

Seriously somebody in comparing India and Pakistan in terms of religious acceptance !! At the end of the day India has the second or third largest Mu*lim population, which is growing. In India minorities do kill, rape and commit crimes against the majority, even if these are too few, in Pakistan how many minorities are left actually

 

[DJhant]

What was I wrong about?

So, because Muslims in India aren’t running away it means that they’re not being persecuted based on their religion?

Clearly you just woke up when you read my post, read the last 2 lines in my post. Nowhere did I say Pakistan is a country free from religious persecution.

Majority of Pakistani’s will condemn any attack on religious minorities, there’s a small minority of extremists that wouldn’t care about it. However, it’s the complete opposite in India, the majority in India have fallen into the extremist bracket.

Oh yeah..majority are extremist in India. Dude, are you for real? You know how many minorities are in coveted administrative posts in India? Compare with your country, and spare the rest of the world from your 'high' thoughts

 

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What was I wrong about?

So, because Muslims in India aren’t running away it means that they’re not being persecuted based on their religion?

Clearly you just woke up when you read my post, read the last 2 lines in my post. Nowhere did I say Pakistan is a country free from religious persecution.

Majority of Pakistani’s will condemn any attack on religious minorities, there’s a small minority of extremists that wouldn’t care about it. However, it’s the complete opposite in India, the majority in India have fallen into the extremist bracket.

If majority in India are extremist then there would be a exodus of minorities from here... just like what happened to Pandits in kadhmir. Thats what happens when extremism takes hold in any area.

So show me where in India such a thing is happening.

On the contrary there is no shortage of incidents where Muslims are regularly responsible for various attrocities against Hindus, let me know if you want a list of such incidents.

 

[FPresidential]

Seriously somebody in comparing India and Pakistan in terms of religious acceptance !! At the end of the day India has the second or third largest Mu*lim population, which is growing. In India minorities do kill, rape and commit crimes against the majority, even if these are too few, in Pakistan how many minorities are left actually

Growing largest Muslim population is because Bharat has the largest population, every population is growing, Bharat isn't accused of genocide, Bharat is accused and perpetrating marginalizing the largest minority with bigoted narrative at the hands of ruling party, BJP/RSS.

This is the first, but as expected, some of the Bharati has no bottom of barrel. Pakistan has minorities, not as big as Bharat, but to support the argument against the treatment of minorities at the hand of the majority is that minority gets to kill and rape and commit crimes in India, lol. The ruling party of India promote and support the narrative of anti-Muslim, the largest minorities in India, have acquitted the murderer of innocent minorities in Gujrat, have elected who are openly bigot against minorities, have elected a PM who was involved in support and promote of killing innocent minorities in Gujarat for revenge.

This kind of bigoted narrative won't work outside of Bharat or pro RSS/Hindutva forum.

 

[FPresidential]

If majority in India are extremist then there would be a exodus of minorities from here... just like what happened to Pandits in kadhmir. Thats what happens when extremism takes hold in any area.

So show me where in India such a thing is happening.

On the contrary there is no shortage of incidents where Muslims are regularly responsible for various attrocities against Hindus, let me know if you want a list of such incidents.

Kashmir is a disputed territory, was a war zone, bharat has largest military occupying Kashmir.

Bharat isn't a war zone. The idea that their isn't mass exodus then Bharat politician, RSS supporter, and Hindutva can't be bigoted is itself narrative of bigots and justification of bigotry.

 

[DJhant]

Growing largest Muslim population is because Bharat has the largest population, every population is growing, Bharat isn't accused of genocide, Bharat is accused and perpetrating marginalizing the largest minority with bigoted narrative at the hands of ruling party, BJP/RSS.

This is the first, but as expected, some of the Bharati has no bottom of barrel. Pakistan has minorities, not as big as Bharat, but to support the argument against the treatment of minorities at the hand of the majority is that minority gets to kill and rape and commit crimes in India, lol. The ruling party of India promote and support the narrative of anti-Muslim, the largest minorities in India, have acquitted the murderer of innocent minorities in Gujrat, have elected who are openly bigot against minorities, have elected a PM who was involved in support and promote of killing innocent minorities in Gujarat for revenge.

This kind of bigoted narrative won't work outside of Bharat or pro RSS/Hindutva forum.

Yeah just like every Muslim is innocent and every Hindu is bigoted blah blah...by the way before you jump around with another concocted story, please share one notable minority in Pakistan who has been allowed to achieve something. What is the percentage of Hindus in 2023 viz-a-viz 1950s. In India even after the 'majority are all extremist' narratives, their percentage increased. Such a horrid state of affairs. To top it all we had the Vice President, head of Armies, sports, Administrative Services and many other fields where Muslims made their names. I am sure being so tolerant of minorities, you have some names of that stature in Pakistan.

 

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Kashmir is a disputed territory, was a war zone, bharat has largest military occupying Kashmir.

Bharat isn't a war zone. The idea that their isn't mass exodus then Bharat politician, RSS supporter, and Hindutva can't be bigoted is itself narrative of bigots and justification of bigotry.

Was Godhra a war region too where 59 Pilgrims were torched ? Were the numerous major cities In India where terror attacks took place between 1990 and now were in War region too ?

 

[FPresidential]

Yeah just like every Muslim is innocent and every Hindu is bigoted blah blah...by the way before you jump around with another concocted story, please share one notable minority in Pakistan who has been allowed to achieve something. What is the percentage of Hindus in 2023 viz-a-viz 1950s. In India even after the 'majority are all extremist' narratives, their percentage increased. Such a horrid state of affairs. To top it all we had the Vice President, head of Armies, sports, Administrative Services and many other fields where Muslims made their names. I am sure being so tolerant of minorities, you have some names of that stature in Pakistan.

Must have been newly knighted typist of same repeated narrative, come up with new narrative because this one had been destroyed many times, on this forum as well. So let's not repeat the cycle.

There is a thread regarding number of minorities left in Pakistan. Open up and along with you, I will condemn it, criticize it and will not support any politician who support such bigotry, won't counter it with "what about in India" lol.

Rest is just "whataboutism" when bharti bigotry is highlighted.

 

[FPresidential]

Was Godhra a war region too where 59 Pilgrims were torched ? Were the numerous major cities In India where terror attacks took place between 1990 and now were in War region too ?

There you go, again.

So the response to violence is support blanket violence and bigotry, hire police man to protect the mob that kill everyone who is minority, Bharat is special

 

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There you go, again.

So the response to violence is support blanket violence and bigotry, hire police man to protect the mob that kill everyone who is minority, Bharat is special

You want to explain how its possible for a supposedly highly persecuted/marginalized minority to indulge in such horrific atrocities when you claim they are surrounded by "Extremists" ? BTW I did not even list all incidents.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

If majority in India are extremist then there would be a exodus of minorities from here... just like what happened to Pandits in kadhmir. Thats what happens when extremism takes hold in any area.

So show me where in India such a thing is happening.

On the contrary there is no shortage of incidents where Muslims are regularly responsible for various attrocities against Hindus, let me know if you want a list of such incidents.

Oh yeah..majority are extremist in India. Dude, are you for real? You know how many minorities are in coveted administrative posts in India? Compare with your country, and spare the rest of the world from your 'high' thoughts

First of all, I’m British, not Pakistani. If you want to compare India to my country, then don’t use Pakistan in your argument.

Secondly, Modi is a far right hindu extremist, he was elected as the PM of India and has the support of majority of Indians. If you want to compare your country to Pakistan, then just imagine the people of Pakistan electing TLP, a far right Islamist party. They have the support of a small minority which tells you that Pakistan will never become a fascist state like India.

 

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First of all, I’m British, not Pakistani. If you want to compare India to my country, then don’t use Pakistan in your argument.

Secondly, Modi is a far right hindu extremist, he was elected as the PM of India and has the support of majority of Indians. If you want to compare your country to Pakistan, then just imagine the people of Pakistan electing TLP, a far right Islamist party. They have the support of a small minority which tells you that Pakistan will never become a fascist state like India.

The reference to Pakistan is to highlight the stark contrast between the 2 countries as the same religious dynamics exist in ALL our neighboring countries ( Ind/Pak/Afg/BD/SL )

What is the most atrocious un-provoked acts of horrific violence that Modi is responsible for which resulted in large casulties ... especially since becoming the PM ? What is the approx death toll according to you? Keyword here is un-provoked.

And what do you mean Pak will "NEVER" become a fascist state ? Then how does a supposedly non-fascist state go from roughly 20% minority non-muslim population in 1947 to about 2-3% now ? Forget non-muslims, there are serious problems with Ahmedi's and Shia's in Pakistan. How does that happen in a normal country where you claim there is no systemic fascism ?

 

[FPresidential]

You want to explain how its possible for a supposedly highly persecuted/marginalized minority to indulge in such horrific atrocities when you claim they are surrounded by "Extremists" ? BTW I did not even list all incidents.

Again, not surprised by that response because y'all have nothing else to counter to support RSS and Hindutva bigotry.

The RSS/Hindutva has support of the elected ruling party of Bharat.
Minorities do not.
The ruling party job is to apply the law without any discrimination not support and use nations assets to promote it against minorities.
We aren't discussing how come minorities are able to commit crimes if they are discriminated, lol. This excuse and justification of global bigotry against Muslim may work in Bharat, among Hindtuva and on Bharati forum but not here. Please try something else. Thank You!

I do not think most of y'all be able to understand the concept of bigoty because y'all have been conditioned to put down minorities of Bharat.

So, enjoy.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The reference to Pakistan is to highlight the stark contrast between the 2 countries as the same religious dynamics exist in ALL our neighboring countries ( Ind/Pak/Afg/BD/SL )

What is the most atrocious un-provoked acts of horrific violence that Modi is responsible for which resulted in large casulties ... especially since becoming the PM ? What is the approx death toll according to you? Keyword here is un-provoked.

And what do you mean Pak will "NEVER" become a fascist state ? Then how does a supposedly non-fascist state go from roughly 20% minority non-muslim population in 1947 to about 2-3% now ? Forget non-muslims, there are serious problems with Ahmedi's and Shia's in Pakistan. How does that happen in a normal country where you claim there is no systemic fascism ?

Of course every single incidence where hindutvas have gone on mob rampages against minorities have always been provoked according to their hindutva apologists. You can guarantee that when one of these incidents happens, there will be stories released about how the victims actually started it, like night follows day. Every time.

No one even thinks to question why would a minority want to take on a majority in a fight. Does that make any sense if you think about it rationally?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

The reference to Pakistan is to highlight the stark contrast between the 2 countries as the same religious dynamics exist in ALL our neighboring countries ( Ind/Pak/Afg/BD/SL )

What is the most atrocious un-provoked acts of horrific violence that Modi is responsible for which resulted in large casulties ... especially since becoming the PM ? What is the approx death toll according to you? Keyword here is un-provoked.

And what do you mean Pak will "NEVER" become a fascist state ? Then how does a supposedly non-fascist state go from roughly 20% minority non-muslim population in 1947 to about 2-3% now ? Forget non-muslims, there are serious problems with Ahmedi's and Shia's in Pakistan. How does that happen in a normal country where you claim there is no systemic fascism ?

You’re getting statistics about Pakistan before they lost West Pakistan where most of the minorities lived. Hence why the numbers dropped.

 

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You’re getting statistics about Pakistan before they lost West Pakistan where most of the minorities lived. Hence why the numbers dropped.

yes but who was responsible for the large exodus between 1947 and 1971 and then the further gradual decline in the last 50 yrs. Hindus had certainly nothing to do with that.

 

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Again, not surprised by that response because y'all have nothing else to counter to support RSS and Hindutva bigotry.

The RSS/Hindutva has support of the elected ruling party of Bharat.
Minorities do not.
The ruling party job is to apply the law without any discrimination not support and use nations assets to promote it against minorities.
We aren't discussing how come minorities are able to commit crimes if they are discriminated, lol. This excuse and justification of global bigotry against Muslim may work in Bharat, among Hindtuva and on Bharati forum but not here. Please try something else. Thank You!

I do not think most of y'all be able to understand the concept of bigoty because y'all have been conditioned to put down minorities of Bharat.

So, enjoy.

the point is ... based on rudimentary logical deduction it is simply impossible for a supposedly very marginalized and subjugated population to indulge in such horrific acts as the consequences would be deadly. they indulge in such violence with impunity because they know there wont be a big price to pay or that there is support structure to mitigate any severe consequences. This is how things work in India. You have no idea whatsoever.

 

[FPresidential]

the point is ... based on rudimentary logical deduction it is simply impossible for a supposedly very marginalized and subjugated population to indulge in such horrific acts as the consequences would be deadly. they indulge in such violence with impunity because they know there wont be a big price to pay or that there is support structure to mitigate any severe consequences. This is how things work in India. You have no idea whatsoever.

What rudimentary logical deduction should one apply when ruling party providing police protection for RSS/Hindutva extremists to attack minorities.

Or, when RSS/Hindtuva burnt down mosques.
I mean, one can list many example of ruling party sponsored bigotry.

Consequence are deadly, on weakly basis we hear someone from minority are killed, are you waiting for mass killing for you to condemn it and take away your support for the ruling party of Bharat? lol

You and your fellow supporter of bigots have plenty of times made clear how things works in Bharat

 

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What rudimentary logical deduction should one apply when ruling party providing police protection for RSS/Hindutva extremists to attack minorities.

Or, when RSS/Hindtuva burnt down mosques.
I mean, one can list many example of ruling party sponsored bigotry.

Consequence are deadly, on weakly basis we hear someone from minority are killed, are you waiting for mass killing for you to condemn it and take away your support for the ruling party of Bharat? lol

You and your fellow supporter of bigots have plenty of times made clear how things works in Bharat

What incident are you referring to where police protection was provided to extremists ? And in your opinion how often does that happen ?

Which Mosque was burnt down ? Are you talking about the Babri masjid ?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Police found evidence of a foreign conspiracy behind the recent Jaranwala incident and the Sargodha blasphemy case, hatched to divert attention away from the ill-treatment of the Christians community in India, Punjab Inspector General (IG) Dr Usman Anwar said on Monday.

Addressing a press conference at his office, Dr Anwar said that it transpired during the investigation that the two accused arrested over the Sargodha blasphemy case had links to the hostile agency, which hatched the plot to divert the attention from their country towards Pakistan.

Express Tribune

I cant believe what I read here. What a ridiculous take on this event.

 

[Major]

Police found evidence of a foreign conspiracy behind the recent Jaranwala incident and the Sargodha blasphemy case, hatched to divert attention away from the ill-treatment of the Christians community in India, Punjab Inspector General (IG) Dr Usman Anwar said on Monday.

Addressing a press conference at his office, Dr Anwar said that it transpired during the investigation that the two accused arrested over the Sargodha blasphemy case had links to the hostile agency, which hatched the plot to divert the attention from their country towards Pakistan.

Express Tribune

All bs.

I have family that belong from villages that come in the Jaranwala district. This area is very hot headed when it comes to blasphemy. Ever since Mumtaz the killer was hanged, their has been alot of campaigning by TLP under Rizvi. Army funded TLP to remove PMLN. Now all this is coming back to bite.

The main goal of the army was to start Project Imran, but to make sure Project Imran was a success in politics, they also funded groups like TLP so that they can be used to throw PMLN off, as PTI wasnt effective. Army knows how to use Islam as a political tool. But what Army doesnt understand is how 4 months of political destabilization leads to years of mess being created. The whole social fabrics end up changing.

Thus, over the years TLP's ideology of killing people over blasphemy has spread and stories of Jinnah representing ilm din being spread aswell, justifying the murders.

People that live in these areas especially in Jaranwala and Nankanasahib are very extremist. Even if we say that ok Indians were involved, bhai the army created a situation, where an outsider just needs to come and say that xyz burned a page of Quran and in 4 hours you will see a mob carrying a dead body and litting it on fire.

The situation is soo bad that just an year ago, some guy in Rawalpindi went crazy when he saw a QR code on a pepsi bottle and claimed that the word Mohammad can be seen in the QR code and was ready to topple the whole pepsi truck.

 

[uppercut]

Of course every single incidence where hindutvas have gone on mob rampages against minorities have always been provoked according to their hindutva apologists. You can guarantee that when one of these incidents happens, there will be stories released about how the victims actually started it, like night follows day. Every time.

No one even thinks to question why would a minority want to take on a majority in a fight. Does that make any sense if you think about it rationally?

Provide list of incidents with evidence and we can discuss. Otherwise I too can make blanket statements.

The situation does not make sense to you because you simply do not understand the ground realities in India. Muslims have a loooong track record of indulging in violence against Hindus and this goes back many many decades even before RSS was a thing ... forget Modi/BJP who are very recent players in the larger context of religious violence.

Here is a damning stat: Vast majority of land in Delhi is owned by the Waqf board. Infact they are one of the top land owners in India and next only to certain govt entities. So how does a supposedly highly extremist/fascist majority community let that happen considering that there have been 75+ yrs to usurp the land? How does this make any sense ?

 

[Hitman]

The situation is soo bad that just an year ago, some guy in Rawalpindi went crazy when he saw a QR code on a pepsi bottle and claimed that the word Mohammad can be seen in the QR code and was ready to topple the whole pepsi truck.

I think something similar once happened to Samsung in Pakistan, isn't it?

 

[DJhant]

First of all, I’m British, not Pakistani. If you want to compare India to my country, then don’t use Pakistan in your argument.

Secondly, Modi is a far right hindu extremist, he was elected as the PM of India and has the support of majority of Indians. If you want to compare your country to Pakistan, then just imagine the people of Pakistan electing TLP, a far right Islamist party. They have the support of a small minority which tells you that Pakistan will never become a fascist state like India.

You are a british pakistani, stop sharing misinformation. then I am also not Indian

 

[DJhant]

And RSS and BJP is not the same, RSS is not a party which fights in electoral politics, BJP does. And please name the Muslim extremist organizations, listed internationally vs ' Hindu' ones. RSS may be extremist to you but Godhra and the aftermath was not a unilateral act, there was a train burning killing scores of Hindu pilgrims, and children and women were also not spared. Show me one such incident that happened in Pakistan or Bangladesh where resident Hindus attacked the majority, and killed them. Then we would argue about the fascism. Yes, India is not perfect heaven for minorities but many of the crimes are committed by your 'largest minorities' which are unthinkable in any of our neighbouring countries

 

[DJhant]

So Pakistan's blasphemy law is an Indian conspiracy according to the Pak Punjab IG.

Yes, ofcourse

 

[BouncerGuy]

To prevent such incidents from happening again, our religious leaders and scholars should use their influence and authority to denounce violence and discrimination based on religion or belief. Such incidents will create a lot of mess if they are not stopped. Such actions will only bring bad reputation for Pakistan and nothing else.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Provide list of incidents with evidence and we can discuss. Otherwise I too can make blanket statements.

The situation does not make sense to you because you simply do not understand the ground realities in India. Muslims have a loooong track record of indulging in violence against Hindus and this goes back many many decades even before RSS was a thing ... forget Modi/BJP who are very recent players in the larger context of religious violence.

Here is a damning stat: Vast majority of land in Delhi is owned by the Waqf board. Infact they are one of the top land owners in India and next only to certain govt entities. So how does a supposedly highly extremist/fascist majority community let that happen considering that there have been 75+ yrs to usurp the land? How does this make any sense ?

The thread is not about Bharat, I was merely responding to another poster. If you want to discuss incidents in Bharat in depth then we can either bump relevant threads or create new ones to separate discussion.

 

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The thread is not about Bharat, I was merely responding to another poster. If you want to discuss incidents in Bharat in depth then we can either bump relevant threads or create new ones to separate discussion.

How's that Hindutva thread you promised a while back coming along? All talk, no action? Feeling shy?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How's that Hindutva thread you promised a while back coming along? All talk, no action? Feeling shy?

I don't have all day to spend on bumping old threads and discussing every topic under the sun. If you are so riled about it, bump one yourself and I'll certainly meet you there.

 

[gazza619]

Pakistan’s biggest enemy is this mindset which allows one to become violent when they hear anything against Islam and the Prophet. These so called saviours are the destructers of Islam and if I ever had power for a day, I would bring in a law to publicly chop hands of these people till the country is cleansed.

 

[Justcrazy]

And RSS and BJP is not the same, RSS is not a party which fights in electoral politics, BJP does. And please name the Muslim extremist organizations, listed internationally vs ' Hindu' ones. RSS may be extremist to you but Godhra and the aftermath was not a unilateral act, there was a train burning killing scores of Hindu pilgrims, and children and women were also not spared. Show me one such incident that happened in Pakistan or Bangladesh where resident Hindus attacked the majority, and killed them. Then we would argue about the fascism. Yes, India is not perfect heaven for minorities but many of the crimes are committed by your 'largest minorities' which are unthinkable in any of our neighbouring countries

RSS was banned three times , they do not take part in politics directly , that is true. But they are working underground and developing a network of hatred for Muslims and Christians for a long time. They are preparing grounds for persecution and hatred.

BJP , bajrang Daal , VHP etc are all off shoots of RSS , they all follow the same ideology.

 

[uppercut]

RSS was banned three times , they do not take part in politics directly , that is true. But they are working underground and developing a network of hatred for Muslims and Christians for a long time. They are preparing grounds for persecution and hatred.

BJP , bajrang Daal , VHP etc are all off shoots of RSS , they all follow the same ideology.

In light of your discourse on the themes of persecution and hatred, which ideology from the specified trio would you contend has had the most detrimental impact on India since its independence in 1947? For the purpose of this discussion, let's gauge the extent of the harm primarily through the lens of fatalities—be they direct(loss of life) or collateral—followed by infringements upon fundamental human rights.

The options to choose from are

1. RSS and/or/any its affiliates
2. Islam
3. Christianity

You can pick only one amongst the 3 listed above.

I will give you my answers first

2 (Islam)
daylight
daylight
the rest

To be fair I will also give you proper indisputable facts to back my opinions as long as you can provide a similarly direct answer and are willing to participate in a constructive discussion to a conclusion(over a period of time).

Let me know.

 

[Justcrazy]

In light of your discourse on the themes of persecution and hatred, which ideology from the specified trio would you contend has had the most detrimental impact on India since its independence in 1947? For the purpose of this discussion, let's gauge the extent of the harm primarily through the lens of fatalities—be they direct(loss of life) or collateral—followed by infringements upon fundamental human rights.

The options to choose from are

1. RSS and/or/any its affiliates
2. Islam
3. Christianity

You can pick only one amongst the 3 listed above.

I will give you my answers first

2 (Islam)
daylight
daylight
the rest

To be fair I will also give you proper indisputable facts to back my opinions as long as you can provide a similarly direct answer and are willing to participate in a constructive discussion to a conclusion(over a period of time).

Let me know.

You agree or disagree about what I said about RSS , was it not banned previously ?

 

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You agree or disagree about what I said about RSS , was it not banned previously ?

Yes but why did they even come into existence roughly 100 yrs ago?

 

[Justcrazy]

Yes but why did they even come into existence roughly 100 yrs ago?

Brother , first answer regarding what I wrote. You accepted that they were banned. Were to banned for fighting for India freedom ?

 

[uppercut]

Brother , first answer regarding what I wrote. You accepted that they were banned. Were to banned for fighting for India freedom ?

No. They were banned 3 times : 1. 1948 (in connection with MKG Assassination), 1975 ( Emergency) , 1992 Babri. Each time the ban was lifted as there was no evidence found to convict them.

So now can you answer the question posted in post#124 ?

 

[Justcrazy]

No. They were banned 3 times : 1. 1948 (in connection with MKG Assassination), 1975 ( Emergency) , 1992 Babri. Each time the ban was lifted as there was no evidence found to convict them.

So now can you answer the question posted in post#124 ?

So you denying Nathuram was a RSS member ?

What about post 124 ? You want to say Islam ideology is bad for society . What constitutes Islam ideology and who defines according to you ?

 

[uppercut]

So you denying Nathuram was a RSS member ?

What about post 124 ? You want to say Islam ideology is bad for society . What constitutes Islam ideology and who defines according to you ?

Not denying that he was a RSS member however after investigations it was found that it was not a RSS sanctioned hit job which is why the ban was overturned.

The point about Post#124 is to lay down the hard facts when it comes to the most horrific communal atrocities committed by groups belonging to any particular religion. Who is at the top there ? What is your opinion on that ?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Jaranwala’s Christian community awaits compensation as investigations drag on

As Christians throughout the country celebrate Christmas, the residents of Jaranwala are still recovering from the ordeal they went through on August 16 when mobs burnt dozens and houses and churches in the area.

Speaking in a special edition of Spot Light, Father Khalid Mukhtar said that 78 people have been given checks worth Rs2 million by the government. However, he added that five to six people were still worried.

He said that there were five pastor houses, including his own which was three kilometres away from the church, which had been promised compensation by the government but it was yet to be received.

Mukhtar added that there were many houses which had not even been surveyed for damage yet and their complaints were languishing with the DC office.

He added that the community felt ‘hopeless’ regarding compensation.

The pastor added that 70% work in the colony’s churches has been compelted but rest still remains. Perhaps the government does not have funds, he added.

Mukhtar said that the colony was demanding that a judicia commission be set up to probe the events because investigation was not proceeding correctly.

He said that multiple people have been granted bail in the arson cases already from the anti-terrorism court and the high court. He added that the Christian community was not being told what had been found in the investigations.

He went on to say that a judicial commission would be able to investigate the matter better as it was clear that the police was not being just in many instances.

Mukhtar said that he had no problem with innocent people being released on bail but the community had had previous experiences such as Shanti Nagar, Sangla, Gojra, Joseph Colony, Kot Radha Kishan and others where not a single person had been punished.

Children from the Christian community have posted their messages inside the church, one of which said ’Give hope for life because cant want to live in Pakistan.“ Another message called for education to be given to Muslims so they do not misbehave with Christians.

Father Mukhtar said that the messages had been written in the immediate aftermath of the incident but the fear was still present in the community and would take a while to go away completely. He added that many families had taken shelter in the farms after the incident and could not forget the incident easily.

Jaranwala’s Christian community awaits compensation as investigations drag on

Many families claim they have not been paid a single rupee

www.aajenglish.tv

 

[Cricket Warrior]

SC takes up Jaranwala inquiry plea today

An apex court bench—led by Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJ) Qazi Faez Isa—is scheduled to hear today a constitution petition seeking an inquiry into the August 2023 communal riots at Jaranwala tehsil of Punjab’s Faisalabad district.

The petition, filed by members of Christian community through Faisal Siddiqi advocate, contended that violent attacks on Christian community at Jaranwala on August 16, 2023 were unprecedented in terms of the large scale of destruction of churches and worship places.

“Never in the history of Pakistan have so many churches/worship places been destroyed in a single incident in a single day. At least 24 churches and several dozen smaller chapels were burnt, thus, the present petition is of great public importance and is maintainable,” it said.

The petition said it is a matter of great public importance with reference to the enforcement of the fundamental rights of minorities conferred upon them by the Constitution, 1973. The fundamental rights of minorities will be in jeopardy unless true facts about the violent attacks of 16.08.2023, are discovered.

The petition urged the court to ascertain the facts of the incident that occurred on August 16, 2023; to ascertain the quantum and extent of damages caused by the violent attacks and to ascertain as to what extent compensations have been paid and damages to property have been restored.

“[There is also a need to] ascertain the causes of this incident of destruction of the churches and property of minorities as well as assign responsibilities to the miscreants.

“[There is also a need to] investigate and ascertain the extent of negligence on part of the state institutions in failing to prevent the said horrific incident of 16.08.2023.”

SC takes up Jaranwala inquiry plea today | The Express Tribune

Petitioners request court to fix responsibility for attacks on Christian community

tribune.com.pk

 

[Cricket Warrior]

SC takes up Jaranwala inquiry plea today

An apex court bench—led by Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJ) Qazi Faez Isa—is scheduled to hear today a constitution petition seeking an inquiry into the August 2023 communal riots at Jaranwala tehsil of Punjab’s Faisalabad district.

The petition, filed by members of Christian community through Faisal Siddiqi advocate, contended that violent attacks on Christian community at Jaranwala on August 16, 2023 were unprecedented in terms of the large scale of destruction of churches and worship places.

“Never in the history of Pakistan have so many churches/worship places been destroyed in a single incident in a single day. At least 24 churches and several dozen smaller chapels were burnt, thus, the present petition is of great public importance and is maintainable,” it said.

The petition said it is a matter of great public importance with reference to the enforcement of the fundamental rights of minorities conferred upon them by the Constitution, 1973. The fundamental rights of minorities will be in jeopardy unless true facts about the violent attacks of 16.08.2023, are discovered.

The petition urged the court to ascertain the facts of the incident that occurred on August 16, 2023; to ascertain the quantum and extent of damages caused by the violent attacks and to ascertain as to what extent compensations have been paid and damages to property have been restored.

“[There is also a need to] ascertain the causes of this incident of destruction of the churches and property of minorities as well as assign responsibilities to the miscreants.

“[There is also a need to] investigate and ascertain the extent of negligence on part of the state institutions in failing to prevent the said horrific incident of 16.08.2023.”

SC takes up Jaranwala inquiry plea today | The Express Tribune

Petitioners request court to fix responsibility for attacks on Christian community

tribune.com.pk

Good initiative by the SC, justice must be served ASAP to discourage such incidents in the future.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Religious violence is never the way to go. Islam is a religion of peace but alas, people forget about it and still call themselves the ambassador of Islam after doing such horrific things.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Qazi Faez Isa directed the police on Wednesday to ensure that "religion is not used for personal purposes" and emphasised handling blasphemy cases "with diligence".

A three-member bench headed by Chief Justice Isa, and comprising Justice Musarrat Hilali and Justice Mohammad Ali Mazhar heard the case. The bench granted bail to blasphemy accused Zubair Sabri on a surety bond of Rs50,000, and ordered a further inquiry into the blasphemy case.

The Supreme Court (SC) directed that keeping in view the sensitivity of blasphemy cases the supervision and investigation will not be carried out by an officer below the rank of SP.

In compliance with the SC's order, the SSP and SP Islamabad Police appeared in court where CJP Isa questioned: "Whether the SP or SSP should be suspended for violating the law ?"

The lawyer argued that the police are scared of blasphemy cases; they register a case as soon as one comes. To this CJP Isa replied, "Who will remain courageous if the police become timid?"

Furthermore, Justice Isa asked, "Can the police enter someone's house without a warrant? Where did the sanctity and respect for privacy go? He inquired from the SSP, "Can someone search your home without a warrant?"

According to the Police Order 2002, entering someone's house without a warrant is punishable by five years, stated Justice Isa. He further said, "You have made a blasphemy case based on a picture as if you are the protector of Islam."

Justice Isa said that first a blasphemy case was registered, then an arrest was made, and then the photo was recovered.

The complainant took his friend to a spiritual figure to have him blessed, where he saw the 'inappropriate' picture and filed a case. Justice Isa lamented how the police are scared despite carrying official weapons. "We are tired of such cases," the CJP observed.

CJP Isa asked the complainant if "the Holy Quran mentions spiritual figures?". He replied that "The Quran mentions a guiding force, not a spiritual figure". Justice Isa again stressed to the complainant to answer his question.

The complainant defending himself told the court that he does not even believe in spiritual leaders, he only took his friend to one. At this, Justice Hilali questioned that if the complaint did not believe in spiritual leaders, why did he not take his friend to a doctor?

CJP Isa asked the police for how long the spiritual leader had been in custody. "Seven months," replied the officer. Justice Mussarat Hilali sarcastically remarked, "Does the spiritual figure's blessings not work on himself that he has been in jail for the past seven months?"

The chief justice maintained that the police must ensure that blasphemy laws are not misused for personal gain, emphasizing that complaints are dealt with due diligence.

Source: Express Tribune

CJP Isa directs police to handle blasphemy cases 'diligently' | The Express Tribune

SC grants bail to blasphemy accused; says further investigation required in case

tribune.com.pk

 

[FearlessRoar]

I hope the police will follow the instructions given by the CJP.

 

[Justcrazy]

Not denying that he was a RSS member however after investigations it was found that it was not a RSS sanctioned hit job which is why the ban was overturned.

The point about Post#124 is to lay down the hard facts when it comes to the most horrific communal atrocities committed by groups belonging to any particular religion. Who is at the top there ? What is your opinion on that ?

My opinion is that atrocities are committed by all sections of societies, it is not a Muslim monopoly.

 

[Justcrazy]

Religious violence is never the way to go. Islam is a religion of peace but alas, people forget about it and still call themselves the ambassador of Islam after doing such horrific things.

To maintain and sustain peace you need violence. Islamic principle is jihad against Injustice to create a better society. The principles of Islam are not based on impractical utopia but practical reality in which live.

 

[uppercut]

My opinion is that atrocities are committed by all sections of societies, it is not a Muslim monopoly.

My question is very different. Which side has commited more violence ?

Are you saying both parties have committed equal attrocities?

 

[Justcrazy]

My question is very different. Which side has commited more violence ?

Are you saying both parties have committed equal attrocities?

How you measure atrocities committed , is everything reported?

 

[uppercut]

How you measure atrocities committed , is everything reported?

By and large yes ... just look at the attrocities with large numbers of casualties. There is huge disparity right there.

 

[Justcrazy]

By and large yes ... just look at the attrocities with large numbers of casualties. There is huge disparity right there.

No , most atrocities are not reported.

 

[uppercut]

No , most atrocities are not reported.

How do you know that if they are not reported... give me some examples.

In any case I was mainly referring to attrocities that resulted in large casualties.

 

[Justcrazy]

How do you know that if they are not reported... give me some examples.

In any case I was mainly referring to attrocities that resulted in large casualties.

Like world wars ?

 

[uppercut]

Like world wars ?

How many world wars have happened in the context of hindu muslim conflict in the indian subcontinent ? (which is the topic of discussion). Read post# 124 again and my subsequent explanations. It is very clear what is being asked.

Or perhaps u trying a new technique to divert?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Two Christian families in Sargodha ‘rescued’ from charged mob: police​

Two Christian families were rescued from an enraged mob who had gathered outside their houses in Sargodha on Saturday, a police official said.

Sargodha District Police Officer Asad Ejaz Malhi confirmed to Dawn.com that the incident occurred in Sargodha’s Mujahid Colony today over alleged desecration, but stressed that a large contingent of police was deployed in the district and that there have been no fatalities.

According to DPO Malhi, when the police reached the scene, they saw the mob crowding outside houses. The police cordonned off two houses in the colony and safely recovered all the residents, he said.

The police officer added that extra contingents of police were deployed in various areas of the city for the safety of Christian community.

“The police peacefully dispersed all the people gathered outside the Christian families’ houses,” DPO Malhi said.

Unverified footage on social media showed a mob surrounding an injured man and separate videos showing men, some of whom appeared to be teenagers, wrecking furniture outside a house. A separate video shot from another angle showed a blaze of what appeared to be furniture.

While asked about the videos making the rounds on social media, DPO Malhi said that these were “fake videos” and insisted that no one was hurt in Sargodha district. “Police is maintaining law and order,” he added.

The official said that a “district peace committee” was called to evaluate the situation and issue statement on the matter. The district committee includes the district administration, religious scholars of Muslim and minority community, he added. He said the Christian community will also be issuing a statement.

While answering a query on the suspect, DPO Malhi said he could not yet confirm whether the alleged incident took place but the police have taken the person in custody and further investigation is under way.

Mohsin Malhi, a resident of Sargodha, told Dawn.com that two houses and a factory were sent on fire.

The incident brought back memories of the harrowing incident in Jaranwala in August last year, where a mob rampaged through a Christian neighbourhood and torched dozens of houses and churches.

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) said it was “seriously concerned by the unfolding situation in Sargodha, “where the Christian community in Gillwala village is reportedly at grave risk to their lives at the hands of charged mobs”. “There are unconfirmed reports of a man having been allegedly lynched,” it said in a post on X.

The HRCP urged the Punjab Police and district administration to “immediately restore calm and bring the perpetrators to book while ensuring that the Christian community comes to no further harm”.

Human rights lawyer and politician Jibran Nasir saw the parallels in this latest incident to the one in Jaranwala, saying it was “another Jaranwala style attack on Christians in Sargodha with [a] mob attacking local community, burning and ransacking property”.

Taking to X, he denounced the “failure of the State to take any serious and sincere action against perpetrators of the Jaranwala incident” and how it “has only emboldened those who exploit religious sentiments for their criminal acts”.

Nasir also said representatives of the Christian community in Karachi, along with fellow members for civil society, have called a protest today at Karachi Press Club at 3:45pm.

Two Christian families in Sargodha ‘rescued’ from charged mob: police

Sargodha DPO says there are no fatalities, and the videos making the rounds on social media are "fake".

www.dawn.com

 

[FearlessRoar]

There is a need to educate about human rights to our nation

 

[Hitman]

What the hell is going on? Can someone share a link to the whole story please?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1794251355756130794

https://twitter.com/x/status/1794303969873002519

https://twitter.com/x/status/1794297756355539015

https://twitter.com/x/status/1794301794467893377

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Has Showbaz Speed or the Botox fancy dress Queen addressed what’s going on in Sargodha right now with the minorities?

If Immy was PM, Pakistani liberals would be attacking him as if he was behind every attack on minorities.

 

[Hitman]

Has Showbaz Speed or the Botox fancy dress Queen addressed what’s going on in Sargodha right now with the minorities?

If Immy was PM, Pakistani liberals would be attacking him as if he was behind every attack on minorities.

What's the whole story so far? Why did it happen?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

What's the whole story so far? Why did it happen?

Apparently a house maid was burning the garbage that she had collected, some right wing nutter accused her of burning the holy book.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

This is what happens when education reforms were put on the back burner under the Corrupt ruling of N-league PPP through out their wretched history.

And now Pakistan is reaping the reward for ileterite buffoons!

 

[Champ_Pal]

Pakistan should either kick out all their minorities or just give them a tiny part of the country and move them out it’s better than this everyday riots and uneasiness.
If you are a minority in Pakistan, anyway you cannot become PM or President. Political apartheid is openly practiced and no one bats an eyelid.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Pakistan should either kick out all their minorities or just give them a tiny part of the country and move them out it’s better than this everyday riots and uneasiness.
If you are a minority in Pakistan, anyway you cannot become PM or President. Political apartheid is openly practiced and no one bats an eyelid.

" Pot calling the kettle black "

Before you post anything in relation to minorities in the future, have a think.

 

[hassan918]

Man attacked over blasphemy allegation dies​

RAWALPINDI: A Christian man, who was badly injured in a mob attack in Sargodha after being accused of committing blasphemy, died late on Sunday night after fighting for his life at a hospital for eight days.

Nazir Masih, 70, had sustained head injuries before he and other Christians were rescued by police amid violence by an enraged mob in Sargodha’s Mujahid Colony, over alleged desecration of the Holy Quran on May 25.

Police claimed they rescued the man, as well as two Christian families from the enraged mob that wanted to lynch them and barge into the homes of some other members of the minority community in the area.

A senior official said the man was rescued and shifted to a hospital in Rawalpindi, where he twice underwent surgery. However, he breathed his last on late Sunday night.

His family later shifted the body to their residence in Mujahid Colony, where his funeral prayers were offered on Monday. A heavy police contingent was present during the funeral, while police were also deployed to guard his house.

One of Nazir’s relatives, Irfan, told Dawn that the funeral prayers were offered in the same street where his uncle was attacked. He said the family of the deceased was present at their home in Mujahid Colony and police had been deployed for their security.

The body was later taken to the Gillwala graveyard for burial.

DPO Assad Malhi said the body was first taken to Sargodha district hospital for a post-mortem examination, after his death in Rawalpindi. He said security was provided during the funeral prayers to avert any untoward incident.

The officer disclosed that murder charges were added alongside terrorism and other offences attracted in the case, following Nazir’s death.

Police had rounded up several suspects and booked hundreds after the violence, stemmed from the allegation that some locals had seen burnt pages of the Holy Quran outside Nazir Masih’s house.

Source: DAWN

 

[Hitman]

RIP! Hope justice is served.