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Moeen Ali - Performance Watch

He hasn't earned half of them.

You get what you deserve in test cricket, he must be doing something right if hes consistently picking up wkts, add his batting into the mix and looks like England may have found a more than useful cricketer
 
You don't always get what you deserve, ask Rahat 'unlucky' Ali.
 
He will never be that type of Spinner Ajmal is. Graeme and Ajmal are spinners who don't require the pressure crested by pacers (or lack of it). If the pacers do well, Moeen can be the bowler who finishes it off on a final day wicket
 
His bowling is oddly good.

I think he is worth a place.
 
There seems to be an obscene amount of desperation in the media to prove that he's a front-line spinner.
 
There seems to be an obscene amount of desperation in the media to prove that he's a front-line spinner.

He is not.

His stats and wickets now are misleading everyone on a CRAZY level. Since its Indian batsmen, the media may seem convinced.

He is better than a part timer. That's all.

Flight, dip, turn and all is not there.
 
Ganguly pointing out Swann took 13 wickets in last series vs India in 4 Tests

Moeen so far has taken 11 from 3 Tests
 
Can do a decent job like Lyon does for Australia. Not good enough to be a frontline spinner but a very decent 2nd spin option when England go out into the subcontinent.
 
Lyon is tremendously underrated here.

Lyon > Ashwin (outside SC) as of now.

How can Moeen be compared to Lyon.

Btu I heard Moeen got good drift this Test. Is it true?
 
60.1
Ali to Jadeja, OUT, maybe I should be punished! Jadeja has played on! Nicely tossed up and angled in on off stump, the batsman came forward, perhaps a little too much and yorked himself. In his hurry to get the bat down he gets an inside edge and deflects onto his sticks.
RA Jadeja b Ali 15 (43b 2x4 0x6) SR: 34.88
 
60.5
Ali to Kumar, OUT, two in the over! Gets a bit of turn, more than Bhuvi expected as he lunged forward to defend. Inside edge balloons off the pad and goes to Anderson at gully who dives forward and pouches it safely. How long since #OhMo starts trending?
B Kumar c Anderson b Ali 0 (4b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00
 
seriously some top bowling by moeen, didn't expect this performance with the ball, just shows how players need to be given time to perform.
 
He's taking wickets against the best player of spin in world cricket.

Come on Moeen, get a 5fer
 
credit goes to idone

ajmal when interviewed by nick knight predicted moeen is not ready as a test bowler vs sri lanka, but will be a fully ready as test spinner against india
and if we judge the performances it seems idone was right all along.
 
He is obviously not as good as Swann or Herath or other leading finger spinners of the world, but that doesn't mean he isn't the best spin bowler in England. Add his batting ability and you have somebody who is well worth his place until such time as the next great English spinner comes along, which based on past experience could be in about 25 years' time.
 
Michael Holding did some analysis earlier

Said at Trent Bridge indian batsmen tried to attack him thinking he had no right to bowl to them and they perished attacking him

Said Indian batsmen been more respectful but still perished
 
Beautiful

62.6
Ali to Mohammed Shami, OUT, five-for! And a what a beaut to get it! This is pitched on a good length and ripped in at Shami, who was backing away trying to defend. The momentum takes him too far away from the ball and it has a clear path to the stumps
Mohammed Shami b Ali 0 (4b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00
 
Beats Swann performance vs india in last series !

Swann 13 wickets in 4 tests
Moeen 14 wickets in 3 tests
 
Dravid : Kohli has been out to an offspinner 11 times in the 47 Test innings he has played.
@ Sensible-Indian-fan what do you think.of this.
 
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Well, that is surprising because he is a good player of spin generally.
In ODIS yes but ODI pitches rarely tend to assist Spin they are mostly flat so it is easier. On wearing Day 4/5 tracks thats when we see how good a player of spin a batsman is.
 
6-fer

15 wickets in 3 Tests so far against India

Part-time ?

He has outdone Swann and not even fully matured as a spinner yet
 
8 fer against India. Great performance by Moeen!

Always nice to see someone prove their critics wrong.
 
The only 'pie-chucking' now is the humble pie being eaten by the critics.
 
He needs to continue picking up wickets though, can't sit back and rest now.

Think everyone knows this much, including Moeen.

Would be interesting to see how the Indian batters play him in the next test. Old Trafford is supposed to be better for spinners.
 
If he gets his batting in order, England will have found a bearded beast.:amla:saqi

6 fer and a superb century in his first five games. They have a player with great potential here, its important they nurture him the right way.
 
What an effort from Moeen ..MOM for me .

However I will be happy if Cooky gets it .
 
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This performance demands a Moeen Ali smiley. One where he's giving a troll smile would be appropriate. For now, :amla
 
8 wickets in the match so brilliant effort. Hopefully he will tighten up with the bat and then become a very good all-rounder.
 
Mamoon is just a part-time critic. Can only criticise on home ground. Out of his depth otherwise. Just doesn't have the intelligence or variation you need from a World Class critic.
 
It was more the case where batsmen gifted him wickets. Decent bowler.

:))) :))) :)))

OK I can feel for you guys.

One or two may have been due to poor shots. Rest of the 6 were not.
 
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[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] eat some well deserved humble pie- I still remember you calling him a 'poor man's Amla', what happened to your brilliant cricketing mind there ? :amla
 
:amla

Enjoyed his spell today, easily his best in an England shirt albeit once again he produced too many hit-me deliveries. Not good enough for a frontline spinner, England will have to explore other options eventually but he's a very good sidekick.

I don't pride myself on being a critic but people are taking things at face value as usual. Just because he has a 6 fer doesn't mean he's good enough. From what I have seen so far, he's out of his depth as international cricket but definitely has decent level potential with the bat.

In the long run, he won't add much with the ball and there will be better batsman available like James Taylor, whom he will keep out of the team and will affect the team's balance. Good option for LOIs, I like his batting in the shorter formats and think he can do a good job there with the ball as well.

England have unearthed their very own Hafeez, whatever that means.
 
:amla

Enjoyed his spell today, easily his best in an England shirt albeit once again he produced too many hit-me deliveries. Not good enough for a frontline spinner, England will have to explore other options eventually but he's a very good sidekick.

I don't pride myself on being a critic but people are taking things at face value as usual. Just because he has a 6 fer doesn't mean he's good enough. From what I have seen so far, he's out of his depth as international cricket but definitely has decent level potential with the bat.

In the long run, he won't add much with the ball and there will be better batsman available like James Taylor, whom he will keep out of the team and will affect the team's balance. Good option for LOIs, I like his batting in the shorter formats and think he can do a good job there with the ball as well.

England have unearthed their very own Hafeez, whatever that means.
More penetrative than Hafeez, yet less containing.
The two can't really be compared in terms of batting or bowling.
 
^ What a pathetic analysis. He's not out of his depth, he's been fantastic in both tests and ODIs. He should have had a 10 fer in this match but the lack of DRS meant that he was robbed of a couple of wickets.

You're so off, its not even funny. Botham, Nasser, Warne and that other old guy have all given Moeen their stamp of approval and so has pretty much everyone on PP.

Just because you got pie in your face, doesn't mean you have to keep on this crusade of devil's advocacy.
 
He's a completely different bowler to Hafeez in tests, much more of a wicket-taker and not as economical. Batting wise, his weaknesses, the short ball and spin, are Hafeez's strengths and his positives, patience, swing bowling are Hafeez's weaknesses.

The only similarities are they are both all-rounders who bowl spin.
 
He's better then Hafeez in at least 2 facets of the game :hafeez2

Surely he won't drop as many chances in the 3rd facet as the professor does.
 
I doubt moeen would ever become a front line spinner. He is England's fifth bowler and that's about it. If he does score consistently with the bat though he could become their most valuable asset.
 
Whether he likes it or not [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] you're in the wrong yet again.
 
Batting needs to improve though.

Seems vulnerable to the short ball.
 
I fail to see why people are saying that he can't be the permanent sole spinner for England. He bowled extremely well today and as soon as those rubbish balls start becoming fewer and fewer, he can become their best spinner since Swann.

Much better than the likes of Kerrigan.
 
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