Mohammad Rizwan vs Mohammad Haris – Is the comparison even justified anymore?

[mominsaigol]

All Australian WK post Gilchrist have been mediocre. A quality all-format WK like Rizwan is better than all of them.

Australia doesn't typically do all format keepers thats why, post gilly they've historically opted for test keeping specialists and whoteball keeper specialists.

Inglis and Carey are far superior. Wade at no 7 is a better keeper bat, brad Haddin is > Rizzu in virtually all metrics

 

[Rana]

Australia doesn't typically do all format keepers thats why, post gilly they've historically opted for test keeping specialists and whoteball keeper specialists.

Inglis and Carey are far superior. Wade at no 7 is a better keeper bat, brad Haddin is > Rizzu in virtually all metrics

But my man wants to laugh at others for comparing Harris with others

 

[mominsaigol]

But my man wants to laugh at others for comparing Harris with others

Haris at no 3 is better then Rizwan. I already posted an entire argument and rather then people addressing it they've as usual cut small pieces that they can counter without any context.

 

[Savak]

Backing and properly grooming Mohd Haris will be more beneficial for Pakistan Cricket in the long run vs sticking with Rizwan in the T20 format.

Mohd Haris needs to consistently play 4 day cricket to properly develop his batting skills overall to suit ODI, Test.

 

[ElRaja]

Backing and properly grooming Mohd Haris will be more beneficial for Pakistan Cricket in the long run vs sticking with Rizwan in the T20 format.

Mohd Haris needs to consistently play 4 day cricket to properly develop his batting skills overall to suit ODI, Test.

agree with the first part, disagree with the second. pakistani first class cricket is sub standard and completely irrelevant to modern day t20 cricket. hed be better off just playing loads of leagues until hes comfortable with his game.

 

[Rana]

Backing and properly grooming Mohd Haris will be more beneficial for Pakistan Cricket in the long run vs sticking with Rizwan in the T20 format.

Mohd Haris needs to consistently play 4 day cricket to properly develop his batting skills overall to suit ODI, Test.

They made Azam Khan play red ball too

It does Jack all!

 

[Savak]

agree with the first part, disagree with the second. pakistani first class cricket is sub standard and completely irrelevant to modern day t20 cricket. hed be better off just playing loads of leagues until hes comfortable with his game.

Playing 4 day cricket will help him develop game awareness, his defensive skills, knowing how to bat through tough phases, improving his game against spin. The attack from ball one approach doesn't work all the time on difficult surfaces or against quality bowling attacks. If he can improve his defence, develop strike rotation then he can become a regular in ODI Cricket and Test matches.

 

[Savak]

They made Azam Khan play red ball too

It does Jack all!

Yes but how much 4 day cricket has he really played? It takes a body of work, experience to develop your overall game and skills.

 

[ElRaja]

Playing 4 day cricket will help him develop game awareness, his defensive skills, knowing how to bat through tough phases, improving his game against spin. The attack from ball one approach doesn't work all the time on difficult surfaces or against quality bowling attacks. If he can improve his defence, develop strike rotation then he can become a regular in ODI Cricket and Test matches.

why does he need to bat through phases, if he manages to slog through 7 or 8 overs hes pbly done his job. the attack from ball 1 approach doesnt need to work every time if you want to bat down till 8 or wherever fahim is playing these days. if he can average mid 20s, and strikes 140+ he'll be doing a good job at three.

he doesnt need to play odis, and absolutely no way should he be near the test team. let him specialise as a glorified slogger, and if other facets develop to his game great, but u dont want to take one of the few sloggers u have in the team and try to turn him into a test bat, hell never have the mentality to play test cricket, ull only ruin him as a t20 player.

 

[Rana]

Yes but how much 4 day cricket has he really played? It takes a body of work, experience to develop your overall game and skills.

Harris does play 4 day btw

 

[Major]

How did he missed that run out. The ball was in his glove.

Than the shot he played. Lol even amir was blaming him for the loss

 

[Bewal Express]

Riz batting can be negative at times but Haris hasnt uprooted any trees. On the WK front its like comparing Alan Knott with Moin Khan. The horrible mistake by Haris will live long in the memory.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Didn't Haris mess up a run out in the last match as well? I mean he flicked the bails with his fingers before collecting. It was Abhishek sharma run out i think.

 

[shamaan]

Should be removed from the squad.

 

[khyberlion]

I am not worried by his batting as I believe he should be opening or bat at 3, but his keeping is a major issue and lol at people wanting Farhan as wk. He's far worse than Azam khan.

 

[themens]

Playing with Mohammad Haris is like sending your team out to bat with 10 players more often than not.

 

[SportsWarrior]

This Harris guy is a joker. Absolutely looks clueless and two level below international level

 

[Nabeel23]

Problem with Rizwan is where do you play him? He can’t open because the openers are doing well. If he plays at 3 or 4, he will slow the momentum down because he has limited stroke play and for that reason he is useless at 7 aswel. He can only play as an opener and for that you would need to shuffle the whole line up for him again. He is a much better keeper than Haris but it’s difficult to slot him in.

 

[themens]

Problem with Rizwan is where do you play him? He can’t open because the openers are doing well. If he plays at 3 or 4, he will slow the momentum down because he has limited stroke play and for that reason he is useless at 7 aswel. He can only play as an opener and for that you would need to shuffle the whole line up for him again. He is a much better keeper than Haris but it’s difficult to slot him in.

He plays the Agha role. Comes in to prevent a collapse, or doesn't come in at all

 

[Cricket Warrior]

How did he missed that run out. The ball was in his glove.

Than the shot he played. Lol even amir was blaming him for the loss

sorry i missed that moment.. what he did?

 

[Nabeel23]

He plays the Agha role. Comes in to prevent a collapse, or doesn't come in at all

He’s too senior of a batsman to agree to that sort of role. If he comes in, he will want to play as an opener or at best number 3. I don’t think he is flexible to do a Sarfraz/Agha and come down the order.

 

[themens]

He’s too senior of a batsman to agree to that sort of role. If he comes in, he will want to play as an opener or at best number 3. I don’t think he is flexible to do a Sarfraz/Agha and come down the order.

Well if he wants to play for Pakistan ever again, he should accept whatever comes his way.

This bhai bhai culture has also been a cause of the downfall of Pakistan cricket culture

 

[Major]

sorry i missed that moment.. what he did?

there was a runout cahnce against Tilak Verma. The ball went behind, Varma was denied a run, he came back running, the ball was thrown accurately to the keeper, keeper caught the ball and this is where it got interestng.

The ball is in the keeprs gloves, batsman is no where in the frame, and Harris decided to get his legs in position and only slowedly tried to run the batter out. In that time, Varma came back into the frame and made it back.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This Harris guy is a joker. Absolutely looks clueless and two level below international level

Irrespective of how much he scores how he looks says everything. He looks like a proper hack. He is not even strong or tall so that he can mishit balls for six.

 

[Major]

 

[SportsWarrior]

Irrespective of how much he scores how he looks says everything. He looks like a proper hack. He is not even strong or tall so that he can mishit balls for six.

He looks like he picks up length late. You can see his front foot struggle to move and he meets ball behind his front foot a lot of time. He is going to struggle against any decent side unless he fixes his technique

 

[shah9425]

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What a clown

 

[Energy]

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This.

I thought it was out araam se. But the gloves took forever to touch the wickets. That could have been the match.

 

[pillionrider]

He's not even comparable as a batsman, forget keeping. He had one good game vs India early in his career where he played fearlessly and had some stunning shots. He's looked a damp squib this tournament. Also zero contributions as far as I could see with field placings, which Rizwan contributes with. Still remember Rizwan gesturing to Babar to set a field for the scoop to Wade in the WC and Babar shook his head skeptically.

 

[daytrader]

Problem with Rizwan is where do you play him? He can’t open because the openers are doing well. If he plays at 3 or 4, he will slow the momentum down because he has limited stroke play and for that reason he is useless at 7 aswel. He can only play as an opener and for that you would need to shuffle the whole line up for him again. He is a much better keeper than Haris but it’s difficult to slot him in.

We won't be shuffling anymore than we already are. Haris doesn't have a confirmed number as well, he's a floater. Rizwan can easily play that role.