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To start with some news on his role from media sources:

Mohammad Yousuf's appointment as batting coach of the Pakistan men's cricket team will be determined on a series-to-series basis.

There have been reports that the legendary batter has been appointed permanently and is released from his position of batting coach at the National High Performance Center (NHPC) Lahore.

However, as per PCB sources, his appointment at NHPC is still permanent and will be part of the side for the Asia Cup, the tour of the Netherlands and the home series against England if required.

Meanwhile, he is expected to join Matthew Hayden in this year's T20 World Cup in Australia as Chairman PCB Ramiz Raja has already confirmed regarding the batting coach.
 
Have Pakistan batters shown improvements under his tutelage?
 
Not really!!!! M Yousuf is not a professional batting coach. He can say whatever he wants but not necessary it will will address the problems. No improvement from Azhar, Fawad, Salman shows that he is as clueless as signboard coach Saqlain.
 
He is a great coach for Technical players it seems

Babar/Shafique are all from the same school of Mohammad Yousuf.

It’s amazing how Pakistan produces these technical masters who all come from very poor backgrounds, cannot afford to train at the high quality facilities or pay for the certified coaches at a young age!
 
Rana said:
He is a great coach for Technical players it seems

Babar/Shafique are all from the same school of Mohammad Yousuf.

It’s amazing how Pakistan produces these technical masters who all come from very poor backgrounds, cannot afford to train at the high quality facilities or pay for the certified coaches at a young age!
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Abdullah is not from a poor background he studied in a private school in Dubai
 
Shafi said:
Not really!!!! M Yousuf is not a professional batting coach. He can say whatever he wants but not necessary it will will address the problems. No improvement from Azhar, Fawad, Salman shows that he is as clueless as signboard coach Saqlain.
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Salman? You wanted to see improvement from a guy playing his first Test? And you blame the coach for it? What exactly does this comment of yours mean?
 
Rana said:
He is a great coach for Technical players it seems

Babar/Shafique are all from the same school of Mohammad Yousuf.

It’s amazing how Pakistan produces these technical masters who all come from very poor backgrounds, cannot afford to train at the high quality facilities or pay for the certified coaches at a young age!
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Abdullah said in his earlier interview that Misbah had a lot to do with his batting and YK for spin.
 
Needs to be given time and needs a younger crew. Iron out chinks in technique early. Doesn’t seem a bod choice though. Let’s see how he evolves. Being a batting great is one thing, being able to convey that knowledge is something quite different though.
 
MOYO was the best looking batsman I have seen before Babz and Abdullah obviously he isnt a coach but surely he must be able to give valuable advice. Its like saying whats Saqlain doing as a coach the spinners are awful and what is his input. But to be fair apart from Aussies series pakistan have done well in tests.
 
Yousuf inspires confidence. I think he can bring this team through some tough tests
 
Shafi said:
Not really!!!! M Yousuf is not a professional batting coach. He can say whatever he wants but not necessary it will will address the problems. No improvement from Azhar, Fawad, Salman shows that he is as clueless as signboard coach Saqlain.
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Lol you're expecting improvements from two 38 year olds at the end of their careers and a guy playing his first test
 
I do think Yousuf could do with more time to wave his magic wand on these batsman. There are many improvements to be made on these batters.
 
Many positives.

I think working with Yousuf for the likes of Abdullah Shafique is a fantastic opportunity and will only help in him becoming a better batter.
 
Yousuf gave credit to Abdullah from learning from his first Innings mistake that's something most coaches won't do.
 
I suppose its down to the players themselves to approach MoYo and get the most out of him.

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I'm glad Yousuf has stopped being the toxic individual whose entire personality was talking trash about Misbah on TV every week. It seems like he has found value in his work and feels much more fulfilled helping Pakistan's next generation of batting talent. He doesn't seem to have an issue getting along with people either like Younis Khan did.
 
I don’t like Moyo as a person and he is a bitter and negative individual.

As a coach, the jury is still out. He would not have been my choice as batting coach.

BUT - if I am honest - the signs are positive. Pakistan have been batting ‘better’ in tests. And some of Moyo’s comments do suggest he has been imparting good technical details that have helped the batters.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I'm glad Yousuf has stopped being the toxic individual whose entire personality was talking trash about Misbah on TV every week. It seems like he has found value in his work and feels much more fulfilled helping Pakistan's next generation of batting talent. He doesn't seem to have an issue getting along with people either like Younis Khan did.
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It seems like Yousuf just wanted a hug and some recognition, now he is living his best life as the best person he can possibly be :))
 
shaz619 said:
It seems like Yousuf just wanted a hug and some recognition, now he is living his best life as the best person he can possibly be :))
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LMAO what made me laugh about MoYo though was that after becoming batting coach, he was working with Misbah and was asked by a journalist (and I'm paraphrasing here) that 'bro, you literally spewed vitriol on TV about this guy and said some pretty hateful things, and now you're working with him?' and he kinda trailed off on low volume after saying something like 'you know all that's in the past and we're working together well' lol :vk2

Talk about having to eat your words.
 
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Positive signs so far. It's a good thing that Yousaf understands the very basics of batting and considers batting technique to be of paramount importance. He said a few months back that you need to have a watertight technique because once the pressure is on, the only thing you are going to rely on is your basics and technique. In contrast, Younis never rated the technical part of batting during his tenure and used to say I just give them the confidence to bat as I don't have enough time to work on batter's techniques.

Another thing is, you need guys who are willing to learn and change as well. Babar has thrived under every coach so far which shows he is a good student of the game. I doubt if Shehzad or Umar were put into the current setup, they would trust the batting coach enough (or be brave enough to admit their shortcomings) to work on their deficiencies.

Good on Ramiz as well to not have brought his personal bias against Yousaf and relieving him of his post. Ramiz has surprisingly been professional in some quarters.
 
Impressed with Yousuf's performance so far, the work with Abdullah is showing. Hopefully he gets a few more youngsters to work with. Surprised though that there hasn't been any controversy surrounding him yet. Seems like he's past his bitter days
 
Is Yousuf the main problem? Is he qualified to teach the art of T20 batting?

Why do most of our batters look so poor when playing for the national team?
 
gazza619 said:
Is Yousuf the main problem? Is he qualified to teach the art of T20 batting?

Why do most of our batters look so poor when playing for the national team?
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Thiers no time to teach/coach in international cricket
 
A disaster. Its an ex player with an opinion, not a coach with a method.

Letting Mickey Arthur go was a big mistake.
 
Why not hire someone from County circuit Yousuf Etal only their to promote Tapal tea
 
gazza619 said:
Is Yousuf the main problem? Is he qualified to teach the art of T20 batting?

Why do most of our batters look so poor when playing for the national team?
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He’s not just a batting coach for T20i’s…

Arguably, Pakistan’s greatest LOI batsman, I’m sure he’s qualified to teach the art of ODI batting and Test batting.

Instead, we should have an additional coach that focuses on power hitting, someone like Razzaq or Afridi working along with Yousuf.
 
He is clearly not equipped for the role.
His brand of underarm throw downs are clearly not working.Please get rid of him and get a more modern coach.
 
Two maulvis are coaching the team, I didn't expect anything better. Only fast bowling is better, thanks to Shaun Tait.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
He’s not just a batting coach for T20i’s…

Arguably, Pakistan’s greatest LOI batsman, I’m sure he’s qualified to teach the art of ODI batting and Test batting.

Instead, we should have an additional coach that focuses on power hitting, someone like Razzaq or Afridi working along with Yousuf.
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Hafeez could be a very good coach for T20 team .
 
Find it funny people are going at Yousuf, these boys just do not have the talent to play international cricket. What are you expecting?
 
moghul said:
Two maulvis are coaching the team, I didn't expect anything better. Only fast bowling is better, thanks to Shaun Tait.
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Explains all the you win some, you lose some Allah ki marzi chat coming from these so called 'coaches'

Another jobs for the boys, get on the gravy train, get paid for doing nothing scenario.
 
Watching his interview with Wasim, although he tried as hard as he could to sing from the same hymn sheet as team management but you could tell he was quite exasperated with what he is given to work with.
 
TheSultan said:
Watching his interview with Wasim, although he tried as hard as he could to sing from the same hymn sheet as team management but you could tell he was quite exasperated with what he is given to work with.
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not just yosuuf, even ramiz seems to have given up on this lot, basically saying this is the best we have, and fans should hope we find some aggressive positive batsman over the next few years from the PJL and PSL.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
It's no coincidence since Mickey left we haven't produced a single batter.
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When Mickey was there , the team looked settled and didnt have so many issues in batting department, yes he didnt use spinners in subcontinent test matches and lost them , but the LOI team was shaping up nicely.

The top 3 + Hafeez and Haris to go with was able to beat teams on a roll in 2019 CWC, unfortunately exited due to NRR when they are peaking momentum..

Thats inns from Babar and Haris against NZL in CWC was fantastic , it wouldnt have happened under Saqi & co
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
It's no coincidence since Mickey left we haven't produced a single batter.
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Coaches don’t produce players. They pick the right players, fight for their inclusion in the team and give them chances.

Our current crop of coaches just want to protect their nicely paid jobs.

Yousuf would struggle to find a job for any international team and Saqi at best is a spin bowling consultant.
 
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Things were going so well with Hayden and all. Annoys me how these toxic ex cricketers keep finding their way to these important posts despite all efforts to modernize Pakistan cricket. Not a single batter has shown improvement against spin or power hitting in any format under this paindu coach.
 
Not a single cut shot from the pakistani batsmen yesterday, kept being late on the pull towards leg.
This negative and incompetent individual should be nowhere near an international coaching team. One of the worst appointments ever.
 
Yousuf is the defacto assistant coach let's be honest. He's not just a batting coach.

So Babar and Saqlain, tactically inept themselves, are taking advice from a guy who arguably oversaw the worst captaincy performance in Australia - the 2010 Sydney Test.

The phrase blind leading the blind was invented for this situation.
 
To be fair to Yousaf, he was doing well at the NCA. You can't really do much technical coaching on tour. He should have remained at the NCA working with youngsters.
 
This guy famously asked the curator to shave off grass from the Multan test vs india without even the knowledge of the coach and captain. Here he is again, passing on that same tradition of statpadding.
 
Not every good actor can become a good director , Yousuf was a wonderful test batsman but he is not a coach.
 
ethan hunt said:
This guy famously asked the curator to shave off grass from the Multan test vs india without even the knowledge of the coach and captain. Here he is again, passing on that same tradition of statpadding.
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:)))

Is this true? That is mad funny if it is. A random player approaching the curator.

On topic, Yousuf has a lot to offer. But it’s not with the intl team. It’s in youth coaching or working at the NCA. Kids need to learn the basics from Yousuf. Hard to teach that at the intl level unless you’re highly qualified at the intl level.
 
"The impression that Pakistan is not batting well is wrong": Mohammad Yousuf

Mohammad Yousuf speaking in an interview:

"The impression that Pakistan is not batting well is wrong. I am a batting coach, so I am not saying that. The criticism of the team's overall batting performance is understandable but to say that batting is failing is not correct"

"The deliveries that got Mohammad Rizwan and Babar Azam out were very good. There is room for improvement, which is being attempted. Rizwan's batting technique is not the problem in Tests. He has played so much cricket that he needs some tuning, which we are working on,"

"We will aim to win the Karachi Test. Neither England nor we want to draw. Pakistan team will enter the field to win. If the series ends with a win, it has a positive effect on the upcoming series"

"Karachi's pitch looks similar to Multan's, but it is not whiter than the latter's. We can expect a slow pitch but I am not a pitch expert."

"Pakistan team is inexperienced in Test cricket compared to England. Session-by-session planning has to be done in this format. National players do not have much experience in Test cricket. Despite the lack of experience, Pakistan players performed well"
 
The new PCB regime will be looking at his role and whether they are getting the best out of him.

My guess is that they will want Yousuf to spend more time at the NHPC working with upcoming players rather than travelling around the world with the senior team.
 
Saj said:
The new PCB regime will be looking at his role and whether they are getting the best out of him.

My guess is that they will want Yousuf to spend more time at the NHPC working with upcoming players rather than travelling around the world with the senior team.
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He’s made zero improvements to our White ball team batting.

The most pathetic choice for batting coach for modern white ball/T20 cricket

He became outdated in ODI cricket by the end of his career and Misbah took over from him and remained an outdated player in the same position for a few more years

Also, the man has No clue whatsoever of T20 batting. Needs to be sent to Misbah’s academy of Limbo where he can wait for his comeback when a suitable regime is back in power!
 
What is Mohammad Yousuf doing?

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Rana said:
He’s made zero improvements to our White ball team batting.

The most pathetic choice for batting coach for modern white ball/T20 cricket

He became outdated in ODI cricket by the end of his career and Misbah took over from him and remained an outdated player in the same position for a few more years

Also, the man has No clue whatsoever of T20 batting. Needs to be sent to Misbah’s academy of Limbo where he can wait for his comeback when a suitable regime is back in power!
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Need a foreign batting coach for modern cricket.
 
Mohammad Yousuf speaking to the press after Day 2 of the 2nd Test vs NZ:

"Abdullah Shafique scored a hundred against England in the first game but after that he has struggled"

"The playing field is like an examination room, and in such situations it's best not to make any technical changes as a coach as it becomes a little difficult to do"

"Yes, there is fine-tuning and interaction happening with him, and he is trying his best; Any player, and we have all been through such periods, where if you don't perform in 4-5 innings things can look a little difficult and a player can get worried; To tinker with his technique at such a point can cause more damage"

"He was a little unlucky today as the ball came on to him a little slowly and he got a top-edge; In such situations all we can do is try and give confidence to the player and to make any technical changes is a difficult task"

Have Shan or Abdullah been told to play at a fast pace?

"Abdullah and Shan's game is their own, no one including coach or captain, has given them such an instruction; All we say is that one should play their natural game, and to play to their strengths and both are doing that"

"We don't have the soil to make turning tracks as we see in other countries like India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh."

"Day by day when there the pitch gets heavily rolled, the ball doesn't bounce, and there is no turn. We cannot be 100 per cent sure about how the pitch will react in the coming days. Earlier, when Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram used to play, the ball used to carry, and there was a little bit of bounce. We have a young bowling side, and in Test cricket, bowling experience is required, and bowlers need to bowl at the right place and length."

"We don't have experienced bowlers, especially in this series. Haris Rauf and Mohammad Ali made their debut, while Mir Hamza was playing his second Test. All these players are young"
 
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MenInG said:
Mohammad Yousuf speaking to the press after Day 2 of the 2nd Test vs NZ:

"Abdullah Shafique scored a hundred against England in the first game but after that he has struggled"

"The playing field is like an examination room, and in such situations it's best not to make any technical changes as a coach as it becomes a little difficult to do"

"Yes, there is fine-tuning and interaction happening with him, and he is trying his best; Any player, and we have all been through such periods, where if you don't perform in 4-5 innings things can look a little difficult and a player can get worried; To tinker with his technique at such a point can cause more damage"

"He was a little unlucky today as the ball came on to him a little slowly and he got a top-edge; In such situations all we can do is try and give confidence to the player and to make any technical changes is a difficult task"

Have Shan or Abdullah been told to play at a fast pace?

"Abdullah and Shan's game is their own, no one including coach or captain, has given them such an instruction; All we say is that one should play their natural game, and to play to their strengths and both are doing that"

"We don't have the soil to make turning tracks as we see in other countries like India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh."

"Day by day when there the pitch gets heavily rolled, the ball doesn't bounce, and there is no turn. We cannot be 100 per cent sure about how the pitch will react in the coming days. Earlier, when Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram used to play, the ball used to carry, and there was a little bit of bounce. We have a young bowling side, and in Test cricket, bowling experience is required, and bowlers need to bowl at the right place and length."

"We don't have experienced bowlers, especially in this series. Haris Rauf and Mohammad Ali made their debut, while Mir Hamza was playing his second Test. All these players are young"
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We don’t have the soil to make turning pitches? I love MoYo the player but what in god’s name is this man taking about? He’s still using Rambo’s canned talking points.
 
A message for Pakistan batters that obviously Mohammad Yousuf has not been able to convey

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Yousuf Bhai!!!

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May be he can batting coach for the u19 not the senior level.
Could be that he is clueless to figure out wahts wrong with good batsmen when they struggle a little
 
As per a report:

Former Pakistan cricketer Muhammad Yousuf is set to be named as the interim head coach of the national men’s team for the upcoming T20I series against Afghanistan, according to sources.

The decision is likely to be taken because the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) was not able to finalise the agreement for role of head coach with Mickey Arthur.
 
MenInG said:
As per a report:

Former Pakistan cricketer Muhammad Yousuf is set to be named as the interim head coach of the national men’s team for the upcoming T20I series against Afghanistan, according to sources.

The decision is likely to be taken because the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) was not able to finalise the agreement for role of head coach with Mickey Arthur.
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“Mujhe Chackar Aa rahe hain”

-Akshay Kumar, Hera Pheri 2
 
Pathetic from PCB. Instead of obsess with Micky Arthur, they should go any 2nd level grade coach from England/Australia. If they can't find then they should try with Azhar Mahmood or Yasir Arafat.
 
We have been conned by PCB

“Foreign coach! foreign coach!”

We get Yousuf. This is like Bipasha Basu (anuradha) selling us dreams and running away with our money
 
Najam Sethi: “For the short Sharjah tour and to ensure continuity, we have also appointed Mohammad Yousuf as the interim head and batting coach. Yousuf has been with the national side since last year as a batting coach and has also been working in the National High Performance Centre.”
 
MenInG said:
As per a report:

Former Pakistan cricketer Muhammad Yousuf is set to be named as the interim head coach of the national men’s team for the upcoming T20I series against Afghanistan, according to sources.

The decision is likely to be taken because the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) was not able to finalise the agreement for role of head coach with Mickey Arthur.
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MoYo deserves a chance let’s see what he can do
 
Yousuf was a legendary batter but not sure if he is a good option for coaching senior's team.

Didn't see any vast improvement in Pakistani batting under him.
 
Stop-gap appointment I guess until whoever is going to take over on a permanent basis is appointed.

Makes sense, he's been working with the squad and knows the players.
 
Saj said:
Stop-gap appointment I guess until whoever is going to take over on a permanent basis is appointed.

Makes sense, he's been working with the squad and knows the players.
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Are you aware of where the PCB is with negotiations with Mickey? It all seems to have gone quiet.

PS- I appreciate that PCB have been very busy with delivering the PSL at this time.
 
He's was good as just the batting coach. Don't think he'd be any better tactfully from Saqlain/Babar duo.

Hope a better coach is appointed alongside virtual mentor Mickey Arthur
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Are you aware of where the PCB is with negotiations with Mickey? It all seems to have gone quiet.

PS- I appreciate that PCB have been very busy with delivering the PSL at this time.
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I asked a PCB official for an update - his reply was Relax :)

From that it seems talks are ongoing but not finalised.
 
Yousaf finally being given the respect he deserves. Glad to see
 
Saj said:
I asked a PCB official for an update - his reply was Relax :)

From that it seems talks are ongoing but not finalised.
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:))) :)))

That seems like the exact type of response PCB personnel would give under this new regime to a serious question.
 
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