MQM founder Altaf Hussain asks PM Narendra Modi for asylum, financial aid

[Abdullah719]

Altaf Hussain asks India's Modi for asylum, financial aid

Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) founder Altaf Hussain has requested Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to grant him and his supporters asylum and financial aid.

Altaf has been charged with a terrorism offence by the UK’s Crown Prosecution Services for his incendiary speech to party supporters in Pakistan back in 2016, Khaleej Times reported.

He is due to stand trial in June 2020 and his passport remains with the UK police as part of his bail conditions and he is not allowed to apply for any travel document unless permitted by the court.
Lawyers were now assessing whether Hussain has breached his bail conditions by asking Modi to let him stay in India while he awaits trial.

In his first public speech after the UK police relaxed his bail conditions, Altaf said he would like to travel to India because his grandparents are buried there.

“If India’s Prime Minister Modi allows me to come to India and provides me asylum with my colleagues, I am ready to come to India along with my colleagues because my grandfather is buried there. My grandmother is buried there and thousands of my relatives are buried there in India. I want to go to India to their graves.”

Addressing Modi, Hussain alleged that his assets, house and offices were taken over in Karachi after August 22, 2017.

He asked the Indian Prime Minister to help him financially if he could not provide asylum.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2101237/9-altaf-hussain-asks-indias-modi-asylum-financial-aid/

 

[AdamM97]

Altaf Hussain asks India's Modi for asylum, financial aid

Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) founder Altaf Hussain has requested Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to grant him and his supporters asylum and financial aid.

Altaf has been charged with a terrorism offence by the UK’s Crown Prosecution Services for his incendiary speech to party supporters in Pakistan back in 2016, Khaleej Times reported.

He is due to stand trial in June 2020 and his passport remains with the UK police as part of his bail conditions and he is not allowed to apply for any travel document unless permitted by the court.
Lawyers were now assessing whether Hussain has breached his bail conditions by asking Modi to let him stay in India while he awaits trial.

In his first public speech after the UK police relaxed his bail conditions, Altaf said he would like to travel to India because his grandparents are buried there.

“If India’s Prime Minister Modi allows me to come to India and provides me asylum with my colleagues, I am ready to come to India along with my colleagues because my grandfather is buried there. My grandmother is buried there and thousands of my relatives are buried there in India. I want to go to India to their graves.”

Addressing Modi, Hussain alleged that his assets, house and offices were taken over in Karachi after August 22, 2017.

He asked the Indian Prime Minister to help him financially if he could not provide asylum.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2101237/9-altaf-hussain-asks-indias-modi-asylum-financial-aid/

Lol. MQM and Altaf Hussain are big jokes. Can’t believe people still continue to take them seriously.

 

[Knight_Rider]

This holds very true in today’s Pakistan and this deep rooted Nationalism (tribalism) is the reason why we have MQM. As a Muhajir I fully support their cause (not necessarily AH and other corrupt goons in the party).

https://youtu.be/LTr5MvkhKc8

 

[Knight_Rider]

Large number of Urdu speakers from Delhi/UP also migrated to Punjab and assimilated, they're not called Mohajirs or identify as such, they can be found in not only big cities of Punjab but also small cities and some even got farmland from the government

The 'Mohajir' thing is only an urban Sindh phenomenon, in rural Sindh the Urdu speakers have also mixed with the Sindhis

Yes because we have to face the Quota system and open discrimination at every level.

 

[moghul]

MQM founder Altaf Hussain appeals to PM Modi for asylum

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...o-pm-modi-for-asylum/articleshow/72099246.cms

 

[Slog]

Lolol

 

[GBK_Fan]

Give him asylum and send him to the Big boss house!! This guy is pure entertainment, just like Laloo.

 

[Relic]

We've suffered enough
Now it's india's turn

 

[Kroll]

Haha, this is hilarious stuff.

 

[Abdullah719]

The mask is well and truly off...

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[kk1992]

The mask is well and truly off...

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Only a prominent Drama Queen from India can stand to interview Altaf Hussain.

Perfect match for each other.

 

[Knight_Rider]

He is just speaking the mind of his people. Many Mujajirs now regret the migration in 1947 and are disillusioned with the purpose and creation of Pakistan. Both India and Pakistan are worse off now due to the partition 1947.

 

[Thomaskutty]

What a melodious voice.

It is noteworthy that the leader of Pakistan's 3rd largest political party seeking asylum in India. What does it say about Pakistan that its always the civilian leaders like Sharif, Altaf, Baldev, Haqqani who have to take refuge abroad even though the military has ruled the country for about 80% of its history?

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[Slog]

What a melodious voice.

It is noteworthy that the leader of Pakistan's 3rd largest political party seeking asylum in India. What does it say about Pakistan that its always the civilian leaders like Sharif, Altaf, Baldev, Haqqani who have to take refuge abroad even though the military has ruled the country for about 80% of its history?

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Lol.

He is not leader of any political party in pakistan

 

[Syed1]

He is just speaking the mind of his people. Many Mujajirs now regret the migration in 1947 and are disillusioned with the purpose and creation of Pakistan. Both India and Pakistan are worse off now due to the partition 1947.

I'm sure those 'many Muhajirs' all live in your house. While overwhelming majority of us are patriotic Pakistanis and thank the Quaid for Pakistan because we don't have live in Modi's Hindutva India. My advice to you is do not overestimate your auqaat and not speak for all of us.

 

[Slog]

He is just speaking the mind of his people. Many Mujajirs now regret the migration in 1947 and are disillusioned with the purpose and creation of Pakistan. Both India and Pakistan are worse off now due to the partition 1947.

Very few if any Muhajir regret partition or migration including yours truly.

Please stop talking out of your behind and don’t be embarrassed of being indian. No need to have this facade of being ‘Pakistani’

Altaf Hussain is a non entity for a few years and is now doing this for media attention obviously and Indian media is playing into his hands

 

[Slog]

What a melodious voice.

It is noteworthy that the leader of Pakistan's 3rd largest political party seeking asylum in India. What does it say about Pakistan that its always the civilian leaders like Sharif, Altaf, Baldev, Haqqani who have to take refuge abroad even though the military has ruled the country for about 80% of its history?

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Lol if you think that’s melodious then it tells something about why the indian music industry is so bad

 

[Slog]

Lol I sincerely hope that modi gives him asylum )

 

[PakLFC]

If so called Muhajirs of Pak regret the creation of the country or love India so much then feel free to immigrate. Most so called Muhajirs like Amir Liaquat Hussain love Pakistan like mad. Some people here have made it their duty to speak on behalf of all Muhajirs telling us sheer nonsense of how independence not partition was a mistake. Altaf Hussain has mental and psychological problems that are so very obvious to see in his speech and behaviour, the man is abnormal, weird and eccentric. It would be nice seeing him in India sitting next to Tarek Fateh being told to "get out" by every second person India, please take this useless man as well, we will be happy to send all our idiots to you!

 

[Waseem]

What a melodious voice.

It is noteworthy that the leader of Pakistan's 3rd largest political party seeking asylum in India. What does it say about Pakistan that its always the civilian leaders like Sharif, Altaf, Baldev, Haqqani who have to take refuge abroad even though the military has ruled the country for about 80% of its history?

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Well if you think this is fair game then don't cry if leaders of Khalistan are invited on Pakistani media like this to do propaganda. Rest assured, it will be 100 times more impactful then this done and dusted nobody who has been dumped by 90% of his own party leaders. And leader of 3rd largest political party He isn't a leader anymore and his old party won less than 10 seats.

Pretty cheap stuff from Indian media controlled by Modi and their Army and they couldn't have chosen better person than Arnab

 

[Professor]

What a melodious voice.

It is noteworthy that the leader of Pakistan's 3rd largest political party seeking asylum in India. What does it say about Pakistan that its always the civilian leaders like Sharif, Altaf, Baldev, Haqqani who have to take refuge abroad even though the military has ruled the country for about 80% of its history?

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Baldev? That's the guy who allegedly murdered Soran Singh right? Also if I am not wrong Altaf Hussain also has multiple murder cases on him. What it does say about India that known thugs and murderers look at them for asylum?

Also third largest party, what party does Altaf Hussain lead in Pakistan?

 

[Waseem]

Baldev? That's the guy who allegedly murdered Soran Singh right? Also if I am not wrong Altaf Hussain also has multiple murder cases on him. What it does say about India that known thugs and murderers look at them for asylum?

Also third largest party, what party does Altaf Hussain lead in Pakistan?

Baldev is murderer
Altaf is mass murderer
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link
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Modi is mass murderer

Like minded people getting together....nothing surprising

 

[sjahmed23]

Despicable individual, can't believe he had so many followers including many from my own family. What a clown hope he goes to jail. Guy has totally lost it, if India wants to be associated with this guy then lol he's accused of killing his own party members like Imran Farooq in London. Lowest of the low.

 

[sjahmed23]

I hope one day Altaf, Nawaz and Zardari family political business all comes to an end. With sell out leaders like these no wonder Pakistan finds itself in such bad condition. Just think these individual were ruling the country for so many years with pure impunity. Really hoping awaam wakes up and chooses better leaders (Not just IK) if they want a future for their kids tbh.

 

[PakLFC]

Anyone who feels the creation of Pakistan was a mistake must be thrown out of the country and their nationality revoked. Self analysis and criticism is one thing but saying our country that gained independence amidst great sacrifice was a mistake is massive treachery.

 

[Waseem]

This holds very true in today’s Pakistan and this deep rooted Nationalism (tribalism) is the reason why we have MQM. As a Muhajir I fully support their cause (not necessarily AH and other corrupt goons in the party).

https://youtu.be/LTr5MvkhKc8

Amazing how low people can stoop just to prove their leader right. The man has been proven mass murderer (didn't even spare his own closed ones), thousands suffered because of his terrorism but somehow playing victim card is an easy way out. By the way, I am yet to meet a Muhajir who said that their parents made a mistake and majority of my friends are Urdu speaking who are far more patriotic than me.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Anyone who feels the creation of Pakistan was a mistake must be thrown out of the country and their nationality revoked. Self analysis and criticism is one thing but saying our country that gained independence amidst great sacrifice was a mistake is massive treachery.

Why the facist mentality? Why throw anyone out of the country if they ve a certain opinion?

I am not disputing the sacrifice of common ppl but that doesn’t change the fact that the whole thing was a farce and British plot to divide and conquer.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Amazing how low people can stoop just to prove their leader right. The man has been proven mass murderer (didn't even spare his own closed ones), thousands suffered because of his terrorism but somehow playing victim card is an easy way out. By the way, I am yet to meet a Muhajir who said that their parents made a mistake and majority of my friends are Urdu speaking who are far more patriotic than me.

Its not stooping low but just putting the facts infront of Hypocrites. Muhajirs are highly marginalised due to their background, have a small share in govt Organisations, jobs etc. Karachi is a neglected and deprived city despite paying highest taxes. Army has stronghold of the city and is doing Operations for decades. Our political voice is totally subdued.

Pakistan lags behind India in most areas. So why exactly was partition the right choice?
It only served feudals like Bhutto family and now is serving the Army.

 

[PakLFC]

Why the facist mentality? Why throw anyone out of the country if they ve a certain opinion?

I am not disputing the sacrifice of common ppl but that doesn’t change the fact that the whole thing was a farce and British plot to divide and conquer.

Coz people like you question the creation of Pakistan. This is not an opinion but treachery fore sure no doubt about it. British did not want Pak at all if you read history and would have delayed independence had they known Quaid was dying. See across the border ow many insurgencies there are in India. It is stupid to think that one subcontinent would have ben a happy place, never! Hop along to India where you will be greeted by Tarek Fateh and Adnan Sami Khan.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Oh the naivety.

Also If things were that hunky dory, than why the majority of posters here maligning AH, themselves sitting out of Pakistan?

 

[ARK Rafay]

Lol he's an entertainer.

 

[Kriketer]

Its not stooping low but just putting the facts infront of Hypocrites. Muhajirs are highly marginalised due to their background, have a small share in govt Organisations, jobs etc. Karachi is a neglected and deprived city despite paying highest taxes. Army has stronghold of the city and is doing Operations for decades. Our political voice is totally subdued.

Pakistan lags behind India in most areas. So why exactly was partition the right choice?
It only served feudals like Bhutto family and now is serving the Army.

Stop this drama and crocodile tears. Enough of your Mqm-muhajir cr@p, that's why most of Karachi including most of Muhajir hate your terrorist party. Brought nothing but ill and destruction to the city. Kidnapping, extortion, killing thousands, gang violence, robberies is all this party did since existence.

Majority of muhajirs including me are completely satisfied and absolutely love our country. This nonsense that you very few come up with is just to defend your clown Quaid Altaf Hussain.

 

[uberkoen]

Its not stooping low but just putting the facts infront of Hypocrites. Muhajirs are highly marginalised due to their background, have a small share in govt Organisations, jobs etc. Karachi is a neglected and deprived city despite paying highest taxes. Army has stronghold of the city and is doing Operations for decades. Our political voice is totally subdued.

Pakistan lags behind India in most areas. So why exactly was partition the right choice?
It only served feudals like Bhutto family and now is serving the Army.

Can I ask you one question? If you're so against the concept of partition and the creation of Pakistan why did you or your family migrate? You guys should've stayed where you were.

 

[KingKhanXi]

Usual suspects getting defensive. You don't have to get defensive and accept that he was the leader of quite a big mainstream party at one time. Pakistani people abandoning pakistan.

 

[AdamM97]

This holds very true in today’s Pakistan and this deep rooted Nationalism (tribalism) is the reason why we have MQM. As a Muhajir I fully support their cause (not necessarily AH and other corrupt goons in the party).

https://youtu.be/LTr5MvkhKc8

MQM itself is a tribalist party. Any party that is ethno-centric is fundamentally tribalistic.

I can however sympathize with the Muhajirs and other ethnic minorities in Pakistan that has been unjustly treated by the Punjabi elite.

 

[AdamM97]

The mask is well and truly off...

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Surely there has to be a reason that Altaf is panicking all of a sudden and asking India for help?

 

[uberkoen]

Usual suspects getting defensive. You don't have to get defensive and accept that he was the leader of quite a big mainstream party at one time. Pakistani people abandoning pakistan.

lol. Big mainstream party. Good one.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Stop this drama and crocodile tears. Enough of your Mqm-muhajir cr@p, that's why most of Karachi including most of Muhajir hate your terrorist party. Brought nothing but ill and destruction to the city. Kidnapping, extortion, killing thousands, gang violence, robberies is all this party did since existence.

Majority of muhajirs including me are completely satisfied and absolutely love our country. This nonsense that you very few come up with is just to defend your clown Quaid Altaf Hussain.

I am not an Altaf Supporter but agree with some bits that he says. Agree or not its upto you but many Muhajirs feel disfranchised after 70 years. As for calling MQM ethno centric cr@p, what are the rest of political parties in Pakistan?

Before and after MQM, no one even raises a voice about plight of Karachi. PTI only has clowns like Vawda and Imran Ismail in place, who have done 0 despite all their tall claims. And just to set it straight, i love Pakistan as much as you. I hate the Army establishment and the feudal mindset, that has brought us to this dire state. Also not agreeing with some event in history doesn’t necessarily mean that you hate the present reality.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Can I ask you one question? If you're so against the concept of partition and the creation of Pakistan why did you or your family migrate? You guys should've stayed where you were.

How do you know that we didn’t? As for your second question if I could go back in time and change things, I wouldn’t have migrated to Pakistan.

 

[uberkoen]

How do you know that we didn’t? As for your second question if I could go back in time and change things, I wouldn’t have migrated to Pakistan.

So basically you're an Indian complaining about the independence of Pakistan. Now that's not something we see everyday.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Your labels make no difference to me. I dont have to prove my national affinity to you. Grow up and talk about the facts rather than name calling and finger pointing.

 

[uberkoen]

Your labels make no difference to me. I dont have to prove my national affinity to you. Grow up and talk about the facts rather than name calling and finger pointing.

What facts? Indians have always been bitter about the creation of Pakistan, that's a fact. Anyone who did not want to be part of Pakistan was free not to migrate. That's a fact. No idea what facts you are talking about here. Muslims in India are treated as second class citizens with limited rights and are oppressed. That's also a fact.

 

[Knight_Rider]

I am talking about marginalisation and discrimination against Muhajirs and the rule of army in every aspect of life. Re-read my posts above.

 

[kk1992]

Usual suspects getting defensive. You don't have to get defensive and accept that he was the leader of quite a big mainstream party at one time. Pakistani people abandoning pakistan.

Yes he was.

Now he is a joke.

And anyone still trying to play Mohajir card remains a joke.

I’m mohajir.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Your labels make no difference to me. I dont have to prove my national affinity to you. Grow up and talk about the facts rather than name calling and finger pointing.

are you pakistani or indian ?

 

[Knight_Rider]

Pakistani, born and bred in Karachi.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Lol I sincerely hope that modi gives him asylum )

I think only way he will accept Altaf's plea for asylum is if he joins the ghar wapsi program and declares he is converting to Hinduism. This is not an attempt to be funny either, I think that is what it would take for a successful bid. Only question remaining would be what caste name would Altaf take to replace Hussain.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Are you a 10 yrs old? Cant be bothered with your child play.
Good that you are also from khi, so you should know the aspects of life that I am referring to.

Come up with something intelligent and interesting next time that warrants a reply.

i think its just a normal question, i can ask from Syed1 where hes from, he will tell me easily.
so my question was where you were born and raised in karachi ?

[MENTION=140488]Lonewarrior[/MENTION] seems as if the Googling was unsuccessful

i think we need to wait couple of hours to get an answer .....

 

[Slog]

Can I ask you one question? If you're so against the concept of partition and the creation of Pakistan why did you or your family migrate? You guys should've stayed where you were.

He’s false flag poster man. It’s funny to see two such posters (PakLFC) from opposite spectrums arguing

 

[Technics 1210]

On topic of MQM, who remembers the MQM flags at the 1992 WC final? Oh how cringeworthy that was!

 

[sjahmed23]

I am talking about marginalisation and discrimination against Muhajirs and the rule of army in every aspect of life. Re-read my posts above.

I hear this mqm mantra alot from my own family members, to some extent it is true. But how exactly are muhajirs marginalized when they have access to some of the best education institues in the country? Okay they cant all get government jobs but what about private sector jobs? You think those from rural parts of the country have access to the same opportunities? So who exactly is getting marginalized by who?

 

[Slog]

So 7-8 karachiites have one opinion and kolakata knight rider here has a different one.

We can see here only what’s minority even if we believe the least convincing story of the world about him being karachiite

 

[sjahmed23]

Back in the days (90s) relatives who came from India used to buy things from Pakistan to take back with them and used to say how clean it was compared to India. I think Pakistanis are still better off than most Indians and can be much better if we can only select right leaders and not munafiqs like Altaf.

 

[Knight_Rider]

One has to be mentally incapacitated to support Altaf.

Arnab has done it for the rating because he knows how gullible Indians are, why are you supporting Altaf's narrative when everyone from Karachi I know do not support any more that has to do anything with Altaf?

Agree that AH has gone nuts and hence I don’t support everything he says but still some of the points he raises represent the sentiment of Muhajirs. I dont see Zardari or Bilawal speaking up (or be even aware) of the issues of Common Sindhis, Shareefs caring about ordinary poor Punjabis. PTI caring about anyone than their ownselves.

Compared to them Altaf Hussain was a much better leader. I agree we need a more sincere and honest leaderships now but thats not possible under strict Army strangulation.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Well, someone got to pay the liquor money!

India should definitely give him asylum. He'll fit nicely with their BJP clowns.

 

[kk1992]

Agree that AH has gone nuts and hence I don’t support everything he says but still some of the points he raises represent the sentiment of Muhajirs. I dont see Zardari or Bilawal speaking up (or be even aware) of the issues of Common Sindhis, Shareefs caring about ordinary poor Punjabis. PTI caring about anyone than their ownselves.

Compared to them Altaf Hussain was a much better leader. I agree we need a more sincere and honest leaderships now but thats not possible under strict Army strangulation.

None of what you have said make any sense.

How Altaf Hussain was a much better leader? What did he do that made him a better leader?

I know many people, some of my friends, lost their life over this man for no reason at all.

You are just making things up and cornered with your incapacitated argument and you can't find a way out.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Obviously if you would bother to read the thread you would know which bit i am talking about. If that still doesn’t makes sense, its OK everyone can ve a different perspective.

I am not making anything up for you to get convinced (doesn’t make any difference to me). Muhajirs had a voice due to Altaf Hussain and for that very reason, we should recognise his efforts.

 

[kk1992]

Obviously if you would bother to read the thread you would know which bit i am talking about. If that still doesn’t makes sense, its OK everyone can ve a different perspective.

I am not making anything up for you to get convinced (doesn’t make any difference to me). Muhajirs had a voice due to Altaf Hussain and for that very reason, we should recognise his efforts.

No! As a Mohajir, he did not give any voice to me, my family or friends. He was the worse thing to ever happened to Karachi.

 

[sjahmed23]

Obviously if you would bother to read the thread you would know which bit i am talking about. If that still doesn’t makes sense, its OK everyone can ve a different perspective.

I am not making anything up for you to get convinced (doesn’t make any difference to me). Muhajirs had a voice due to Altaf Hussain and for that very reason, we should recognise his efforts.

That might've been the case in the 80s but now it is the opposite. My uncle was a die hard supporter of MQM, Altaf even came to his wedding when he was in Pakistan, my nani's house is a few blocks away from 9-0, and last time I visited Pakistan he was telling me how MQM is the worst thing to happen to Karachi because of all the violence and bhatta they asked for (ask any businessman living in Karachi about that situation). MQM has been duping the older generation of muhajirs making them believe that they are the voice of mujahir when infact it is (was) a mafia. Like I said earlier, muhajirs can't say they are marginalized when they have access to some of the best education institutes in the country. Muhajir children (like many of my cousins) work in some of the best companies in Pakistan, have credentials to move anywhere in the world, I don't think marginalized people would live like that.

 

[Slog]

Obviously if you would bother to read the thread you would know which bit i am talking about. If that still doesn’t makes sense, its OK everyone can ve a different perspective.

I am not making anything up for you to get convinced (doesn’t make any difference to me). Muhajirs had a voice due to Altaf Hussain and for that very reason, we should recognise his efforts.

Altar Hussain was the worst thing to happen to Muhajirs. Before his gang of criminals, the Muhajir community was the most educated community in Pakistan and was considered the most sophisticated and classy.

He did tremendous damage

 

[Knight_Rider]

AH may have a part to play in it but to greater extent its the suffocation created by nepotism, quota system and years of neglect. For a city the size of Karachi, there is no federal or provincial budget for anything. In Govt Universities and jobs, Muhajirs only ve a small quota in their own city. If you go to any Govt bank or even Karachi airport, it feels like you are in interior Sindh. If you ever go to your local police station in Karachi, it feels like you are in Punjab. None of this is due to MQM or Altaf.

Everyone is happy to take a share of karachi’s opportunities but no one wants to put anything into it. I recently went to Islamabad and Lahore and they are in much much better state than Khi (despite adding much less to Pakistans economy).

 

[uberkoen]

So 7-8 karachiites have one opinion and kolakata knight rider here has a different one.

We can see here only what’s minority even if we believe the least convincing story of the world about him being karachiite

I don't know why people do this. It's so easy to spot false flag posters. The come out looking like fools

 

[Kriketer]

Obviously if you would bother to read the thread you would know which bit i am talking about. If that still doesn’t makes sense, its OK everyone can ve a different perspective.

I am not making anything up for you to get convinced (doesn’t make any difference to me). Muhajirs had a voice due to Altaf Hussain and for that very reason, we should recognise his efforts.

Total bull. The only thing he gave to the rest of Muhajirs was kidnapping and killing them and making a mess of their city. He took young generation off of schools and armed them to loot and cause unrest in the city. So this thing that you say he gave "voice" to Muhajir is utter bullcr@p.

Good to see the rest of Karachi folks denying your false claims here. Time for Mqm and Altaf fans to have some shame and face the facts, extreme minority of you that still remains.

 

[Knight_Rider]

You have no answers to the points i raised above, hence going on the tangent again. Not too long ago in the Baldiyati elections MQM won majority of seats in Karachi. If it wasnt for the Army’s manipulation in last election, they would ve won all seats again.

Army did the same tricks before in 1990s with Jinnahpur etc, they couldn’t suppress MQM. Muhajirs are not fools and can see beyond all these smoke screens created by Establishment controlled media.

 

[amvbfm]

You have no answers to the points i raised above, hence going on the tangent again. Not too long ago in the Baldiyati elections MQM won majority of seats in Karachi. If it wasnt for the Army’s manipulation in last election, they would ve won all seats again.

Army did the same tricks before in 1990s with Jinnahpur etc, they couldn’t suppress MQM. Muhajirs are not fools and can see beyond all these smoke screens created by Establishment controlled media.

There is no denying the validity of the grievances that underpinned the (supposed) formation of MQM but AH and his band have done more harm than good. They destroyed an entire generation by leading it away from education and on a path of violence. Ironically, they did almost everything that they opposed.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Straight to the hall of fame! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AltafHussain?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AltafHussain</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ABP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ABP</a> <a href="https://t.co/2Bxq8FGvv9">pic.twitter.com/2Bxq8FGvv9</a></p>— Sikander Bizenjo (@sikanderbizenjo) <a href="https://twitter.com/sikanderbizenjo/status/1197609134880940032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Looks like he's trying his hand at comedy on Indian news channels. Interesting ploy.

 

[Green Patriot]

He is just speaking the mind of his people. Many Mujajirs now regret the migration in 1947 and are disillusioned with the purpose and creation of Pakistan. Both India and Pakistan are worse off now due to the partition 1947.

Please speak for yourself.
We are well and truly glad for the blessing of Pakistan and wouldnt want it otherwise. Please dont throw around random stats.

On topic: AH disgusts me.It is painful and downright cringey to watch him speak.

 

[Knight_Rider]

In an undivided India, Muslims would ve been close to 40% of the population and things would ve been very different from what they are now. Pakistan from the beginning was just a ploy to serve foreign interests and their Pet Feudals.

 

[Azzurri]

In an undivided India, Muslims would ve been close to 40% of the population and things would ve been very different from what they are now. Pakistan from the beginning was just a ploy to serve foreign interests and their Pet Feudals.

Well we can see what is happening with Muslims in shunning India. Even if we consider your point, living with a community where 60% of a population hates you to the core doesn’t really paint a pretty picture.

 

[Knight_Rider]

I am not sure if there really was that much hate between ‘communities’. The partition polarized things, brought an imbalance of demographics and now Muslims are divided in 3 countries, whereas Hindus are united in 1.

Many Indians and Pakistanis get on very well outside their own countries. We are essentially same people with different religions, so not sure if there really is a hatred from ‘core’ (ofcourse bar the extremists on both sides).

 

[faraz39]

I am not sure if there really was that much hate between ‘communities’. The partition polarized things, brought an imbalance of demographics and now Muslims are divided in 3 countries, whereas Hindus are united in 1.

Many Indians and Pakistanis get on very well outside their own countries. We are essentially same people with different religions, so not sure if there really is a hatred from ‘core’ (ofcourse bar the extremists on both sides).

I have heard the naive talk of things would be hunky dory if we were one country because it was so before partition. Even if we assume there was no communal tension before partition, it was only because first there was Muslim rule for centuries and then the British rule. As soon as the Hindus were to come to power, it was a matter of time before they would go after the Muslims as we see now by BJP and RSS. There had always been resentment in Hindus for Muslim rule and to this day they have not got over it. I really wish you can go live in India to see what kind of a life you would really lead as a third class citizen where Hindus name their dogs Muslim names as a sign of what they think of Muslims (Hindu friend whose family had a dog with a Muslim name told me this).

 

[Knight_Rider]

Cant say much about your time machine but i ve been to india. I have also had Indian IT colleagues, who shared the same views. I dont think that just religion itself makes us a different ‘Qom’ , else we would be living the lives of Saudis and not carrying on with our own Traditions and customs from the subcontinent. Remember Indian has a larger Muslim population than Pakistan (meaning majority of muslims chose not to migrate).

Now after 70 years of war mongering on both sides and imbalance of religious demographics, things are out of control. In Indias our brothers are suffering as a result of Partition. Modi type extremists wouldnt have been possible in a undivided India.

 

[Slog]

I am not sure if there really was that much hate between ‘communities’. The partition polarized things, brought an imbalance of demographics and now Muslims are divided in 3 countries, whereas Hindus are united in 1.

Many Indians and Pakistanis get on very well outside their own countries. We are essentially same people with different religions, so not sure if there really is a hatred from ‘core’ (ofcourse bar the extremists on both sides).

There wasn’t much hate between communities?

Hindus today hate Mughals and other Muslim
Empires for no reason and still scarred for no reason?

There weren’t riots in what British articulacy formed and called British India?

 

[faraz39]

Cant say much about your time machine but i ve been to india. I have also had Indian IT colleagues, who shared the same views. I dont think that just religion itself makes us a different ‘Qom’ , else we would be living the lives of Saudis and not carrying on with our own Traditions and customs from the subcontinent. Remember Indian has a larger Muslim population than Pakistan (meaning majority of muslims chose not to migrate).

Now after 70 years of war mongering on both sides and imbalance of religious demographics, things are out of control. In Indias our brothers are suffering as a result of Partition. Modi type extremists wouldnt have been possible in a undivided India.

What you are referring to is pure hypothesis and conjecture on an if scenario. I am stating reality about life of Muslims in India right now. You are still free to pull an Adnan Sami and become a 3rd class Indian citizen.

Some prefer to be slaves as long as the master gives them a few crumbs and pets them.

 

[Knight_Rider]

There wasn’t much hate between communities?

Hindus today hate Mughals and other Muslim
Empires for no reason and still scarred for no reason?

There weren’t riots in what British articulacy formed and called British India?

In 1857 war of Rebellion Muslims and Hindus fought together and wanted to reinstate the Mughal Emperor again.

Yes there is hatred now but thats due to the polarisation caused by the partition and 3rd rate hate mongers like Modi misusing the situation.

 

[Azzurri]

In 1857 war of Rebellion Muslims and Hindus fought together and wanted to reinstate the Mughal Emperor again.

Yes there is hatred now but thats due to the polarisation caused by the partition and 3rd rate hate mongers like Modi misusing the situation.

You are an A level troll mate

 

[Knight_Rider]

There is nothing substantial in your post nor you ve any point to make.
That makes YOU a Troll.

 

[faraz39]

In 1857 war of Rebellion Muslims and Hindus fought together and wanted to reinstate the Mughal Emperor again.

Yes there is hatred now but thats due to the polarisation caused by the partition and 3rd rate hate mongers like Modi misusing the situation.

This response clearly shows a lack of historical knowledge if you believe Hindus wanted to reinstate Mughal empire. Are there sane voices in Hindu community? Definitely yes but not enough to prevent the rampant discrimination and oppression as long as the Hindus were in majority.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Go and read about 1857 rebellion in India.

 

[Professor]

Cant say much about your time machine but i ve been to india. I have also had Indian IT colleagues, who shared the same views. I dont think that just religion itself makes us a different ‘Qom’ , else we would be living the lives of Saudis and not carrying on with our own Traditions and customs from the subcontinent. Remember Indian has a larger Muslim population than Pakistan (meaning majority of muslims chose not to migrate).

Now after 70 years of war mongering on both sides and imbalance of religious demographics, things are out of control. In Indias our brothers are suffering as a result of Partition. Modi type extremists wouldnt have been possible in a undivided India.

That's just flat out wrong, last I checked Pakistan has at least 5 to 6 more million Muslims than India. Not that it matters but its weird how people keep propagating the myth that India has more Muslims than Pakistan.