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Doesn't matterWhen you can’t perform at an International level what’s the point of having strike rate where was this in New Zealand ?
right now is PSL and he is one of the best lower order batters this tournament
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Doesn't matterWhen you can’t perform at an International level what’s the point of having strike rate where was this in New Zealand ?
They couldn't even qualify with sarfraz for years. Now he's a water boy.A well deserved defeat for Quetta after dropping Saifi and replacing him the useless Evans
Don’t think they will go past the first eliminator round unless Sarfraz is bought back
I don't think he's international material rizwan has better stats than him in all formats of domestics.Omair bin yousaf despite being the perfect no 4 for us in both odi and t20, won't get a chance to play because management wants an opener to bat at no 4 and accommodate rizwan at opening lol.
Rizwan isn't willing to go to no 4, and rizzu isn't a t20 bat,I don't think he's international material rizwan has better stats than him in all formats of domestics.
They don't have any batting, that's the thing. Besides saud.Too much arrogance in the Quetta side
What’s the point of qualifying for the play offs when you have a team lead by Shan Masood that will probably show more fight and aggression than you? Karachi and Lahore right now are better suited to play the play offs…not this Quetta side with zero game planning
Ever since rizwan opened we have proceeded to get exposed in every t20 icc tournament minus one game against india who for some reason also got bitchered by a pretty weak NZ team at the time by 9 wickets, other then that one exception we've been humiliated but have gotten extremely lucky to somehow make to asia cup 2022 final and wc 2022 final despite in both tournaments we lost 60% of our matches in group stages and had to rely on bowling miracles to get by to finals and still botched the finals despite Lankans giving us a 11 extra headstart and England having a toothless bowling attack that we fell to for 138.
No we have not, we literally got smoked because this moron cost us asia cup 2022 against Sri Lanka despite the Lankans starting off with 11 extras before the first ball was even bowled.
He's always needed babar to get actually chase 200, of Babar gets dismissed, then he's incapable of functioning with any other batsmen or winning anything.
And that is completely false if you watched every single game, you'd know that despite getting smoked 5-0 against England we demolished them in t20 when Khalid Latif and sharjeel Khan managed to humiliate England Black and blue and virtually end the game during the powerplay alone.
Again I'm not claiming their good players but going hard in the PP has worked for us multiple times especially in 2009 amd in 2010 as well.
Rizwan is not an all format player or must in all 3. He's possibly amongst the worst t20 openers you could have and minus 2nd string sides he'll be a massive massive liability this cup.
Put fakhar at opening because of what performances? He was given 30 odd games he flopped. Now in PSL he's one of the worst opener.Rizwan isn't willing to go to no 4, and rizzu isn't a t20 bat,
He plays beyond slow in the powerplay and he won't perform every single time, he's the same dude who messed up 2022 asia cup due to his slow sr.
Either have rizwan at no 4 and put fakhar back at opening and before the cup give fakhar bcci Level coaching so he can become our hitman as he's clearly shown he can but inconsistently, just make that consistent.
But that's not going to happen.
I'm quoting historical facts, trying to strawman me by attacking an argument I never made is irrelevant.Khalid Latif and Sharjeel Khan, seriously? Two spot fixers who aren't fit to tie Rizwan's shoes yet here you are comparing them to our best wicket keeper batter ever. The innings you're talking about, they were chasing nothing. It was the bowling that won us the match that day.
It's really simple. We lose whenever one of Babar or Rizwan doesn't click. Whether that be an Asia Cup final or a game against Zimbabwe. The 2 cover the cracks of our team. Without them we would not be able to compete
Forget the fixing both were rubbish bats too specially Khalid latif.Khalid Latif and Sharjeel Khan, seriously? Two spot fixers who aren't fit to tie Rizwan's shoes yet here you are comparing them to our best wicket keeper batter ever. The innings you're talking about, they were chasing nothing. It was the bowling that won us the match that day.
It's really simple. We lose whenever one of Babar or Rizwan doesn't click. Whether that be an Asia Cup final or a game against Zimbabwe. The 2 cover the cracks of our team. Without them we would not be able to compete
And the original post was regarding onair at no 4, no one brought up rizwan, you brought him up randomly whole replying to me.Put fakhar at opening because of what performances? He was given 30 odd games he flopped. Now in PSL he's one of the worst opener.
The post was I don't think omair is international material and I said rizwan has better stats than him in international than omair does at domestic.
I think you need to read your post again.And the original post was regarding onair at no 4, no one brought up rizwan, you brought him up randomly whole replying to me.
I'm quoting historical facts, trying to strawman me by attacking an argument I never made is irrelevant.
Rizwan clicked in the asia cup final lol, Babar clicked in the wc t20 semi final, what happened their?
How? An average at 40 with a 120sr? Pakistan were ranked 1 under Sarfaraz without Rizwan but they are now a solid 4th/5th ranked side having played the majority of their cricket against B/C string sidesI'm not strawmaning anything, your entire argument was Rizwan isn't a T20 player. Then you bring up the example of 2 spot fixers bashing England in low scoring affair as if those were our glory days.
Just so you know Sharjeel averages 22 and strikes at 133. Latif averages 21 and has a strike rate of 103. This is the benchmark you're saying we should have as t20 openers.
Rizwan has set the bar much higher
That’s the problem, domestic only. You gotta keep this energy when he plays international.Doesn't matter
right now is PSL and he is one of the best lower order batters this tournament
His agent did after a week and no one is broke. His agent has been ringing us for his gt20 2024. Why don’t u go ask Chacha what he does with his salaryWell your uncle did. Poor him he must be broke now.
You're 100% strawmanning even now, never once did I say it was a benchmark, you claimed going hard in PP never worked, I cited an example where it did and you fumbled with yet another excuse sayingI'm not strawmaning anything, your entire argument was Rizwan isn't a T20 player. Then you bring up the example of 2 spot fixers bashing England in low scoring affair as if those were our glory days.
Just so you know Sharjeel averages 22 and strikes at 133. Latif averages 21 and has a strike rate of 103. This is the benchmark you're saying we should have as t20 openers.
Rizwan has set the bar much higher
What did I lie about? Just because you are writing essays don't mean you make sense. When did I say Babar and rizwan were not at fault?You're 100% strawmanning even now, never once did I say it was a benchmark, you claimed going hard in PP never worked, I cited an example where it did and you fumbled with yet another excuse saying
Oh bit it was a low scoring affair then after that you singled out sharjeel and latif because you need secondary points to attack cause you're running out of arguments when rizwan himself has already admitted he's useless at opening without babar hand holding him.
Misbah and rizwan aren't the pinnacle of success that you've turned them into, so much so that I find posts about you elsewhere actually comparing rizwan to Steve Smith or other players or actually claiming that current Pakistan stands a chance against India in test.
You're just lying to yourself, and this goes for @Ahmed216 and @PakEngFan as well, liking each others comments and forming a hive doesn't do anything, all of you are just lying to yourselves while making cringy anime jokes on being top dawgs.
For your sake I hope you see the game with neutral eyes cause its annoying to constantly deal with Pro rizwan or anti rizwan cults 24/7.
Rizwan amd babar are not the pinnacle of success that will force India to lose to us in test, nor are they the absolute worst atrocities to ever exist.
Their okayish players who have won us t20 games but have contributed towards losing us multiple t20 tournaments with Asia cup 2022 and semi final 2021 being babar and rizwan's fault 110%.
Maybe his agent is asking if the payment went though or not. Because clearly it has affected you as you can't say a sentence without including iftikhar name.His agent did after a week and no one is broke. His agent has been ringing us for his gt20 2024. Why don’t u go ask Chacha what he does with his salary
Cause I don’t like him as a player! He is a fraud. As I said keep the same energy when he plays international cricket. Make sure you don’t hide.Maybe his agent is asking if the payment went though or not. Because clearly it has affected you as you can't say a sentence without including iftikhar name.
Khalid Latif and Sharjeel Khan, seriously? Two spot fixers who aren't fit to tie Rizwan's shoes yet here you are comparing them to our best wicket keeper batter ever. The innings you're talking about, they were chasing nothing. It was the bowling that won us the match that day.
It's really simple. We lose whenever one of Babar or Rizwan doesn't click. Whether that be an Asia Cup final or a game against Zimbabwe. The 2 cover the cracks of our team. Without them we would not be able to compete
You hate him. That's it. I don't like iftikhar as a player not because he didn't a bill. That's the difference.Cause I don’t like him as a player! He is a fraud. As I said keep the same energy when he plays international cricket. Make sure you don’t hide.
I've been called liar, troll, cringe and what not since yesterdayWhat did I lie about? Just because you are writing essays don't mean you make sense. When did I say Babar and rizwan were not at fault?
Babar and rizwan have many faults. Find better players than them and then bin them, but the fact is we don't have anyone who can challenge them at the moment. Same goes for any other players they are not bigger than the country.
We can't compete even with them, you're acting as if we didn't get butchered and ragdolled by our rival nation twice during the last time we met in local and icc tournaments.Khalid Latif and Sharjeel Khan, seriously? Two spot fixers who aren't fit to tie Rizwan's shoes yet here you are comparing them to our best wicket keeper batter ever. The innings you're talking about, they were chasing nothing. It was the bowling that won us the match that day.
It's really simple. We lose whenever one of Babar or Rizwan doesn't click. Whether that be an Asia Cup final or a game against Zimbabwe. The 2 cover the cracks of our team. Without them we would not be able to compete
The poster said he doesn't have like and dislike but clearly does. Can't back up any of his claims then starts calling people liers.I've been called liar, troll, cringe and what not since yesterday
The poster said he doesn't have like and dislike but clearly does. Can't back up any of his claims then starts calling people liers.
Every post is about Babar and rizwan. I mean there are 9 other players in the team.
Because they are not good enough and they know it. We tried fakhar he flopped. Tried sharjeel he flopped. Tried Saim he flopped but should get more games.The 9 other players in the team dont insist about playing as an opener.
When did we try Sharjeel? How did he flop? He was Pakistan’s best batsman in the 2016 T20 World Cup in IndiaTried sharjeel he flopped
I've backed up every claim, you only have 2 people supporting you man, one makes wwe comments and the other compared rizwan to actual atg's like kohli lol.The poster said he doesn't have like and dislike but clearly does. Can't back up any of his claims then starts calling people liers.
Every post is about Babar and rizwan. I mean there are 9 other players in the team.
When you can't back your claims you decide to run I don't blame you. I don't need anyone to back me. I back up my arguments with facts rather than emotions.I've backed up every claim, you only have 2 people supporting you man, one makes wwe comments and the other compared rizwan to actual atg's like kohli lol.
You're way too toxic for me to actually have a proper conversation so I'll leave it that.
Here I'll say words that are music to your ears, Babar and rizwan are the greatest pakistani players on the planet and no one comes close to them as they are mighty openers and atg's of the game, their if that's what you wish to hear then stay happy.
Here I'll say words that are music to your ears, Babar and rizwan are the greatest pakistani players on the planet and no one comes close to them as they are mighty openers and atg's of the game
We can't compete even with them, you're acting as if we didn't get butchered and ragdolled by our rival nation twice during the last time we met in local and icc tournaments.
A bunch of mythological paragraphs with the encore being we wont compete if they dont exist.
I am all tears at the euology you just expostulated now for these two.
Unfortunately, mythologies and fantasies are just stories told to amuse the general population.
Good look convincing any logical cricket fan of the last line.
Oh bit it was a low scoring affair then after that you singled out sharjeel and latif because you need secondary points to attack cause you're running out of arguments when rizwan himself has already admitted he's useless at opening without babar hand holding him.