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Mumbai Indians defeat Chennai Super Kings by one run to win IPL title

Lol what a despo. I have never ever in my life wanted India to lose just because someone I criticise is playing for India but I have seen some of you wanting India to lose just so Dhoni can be dropped from the team. Just visit the match threads and see it yourself. Find me at least 1 post where I said something like 'hopefully we will lose today so that we can get rid of Rayudu and Dhoni'.

Plastic fans like you are just glory hunters. I can bet my house you will be the first ones to cuss Rishabh Pant and his family when he goes out of form. Today its Dhoni tomorrow it will be Pant for you guys.

Also the bottomline is Pant is not selected for the world cup and I wasn't the one who kicked h out of the team. Team management and selectors did it for a reason which is way above your thinking. Keep crying buddy. :inti

You putting down some players (especially upcoming ones) is more brutal than anyone wanting India to lose (certainly I have not done that!). It is the same players who form the team later! Pant is not selected, but Pandya is selected! So even you are not a clear winner either! I am wondering how you were bashing Rohit Sharma when he was struggling for form few years ago! It is much easier to praise the proven players than backing a budding player who is yet to go through the various difficulties of new challenges!
 
Yeah its pretty clear who bothers whom here. See you in April/May/June 2020. Bye bye. :inti

So you think we will be active only in these periods! I have seen you chanting IPL/Pyjama even when we had forgotten that and concentrating on the series/tournament in hand...!
 
Who told you that we don't care about International Cricket? We have got more involved. please check all the three latest tough overseas test series, we were doing better analysis & constructive criticism (and even more positively patriotic about our team prospects) than how you blindly bashed so-called IPL stars who were also playing test matches with full spirit, and you expected miraculous performances from them and kept bashing even though its their first tour, and your favorite so-called "Pure International" stars from "Absolute Non-IPL" era could not achieve the feat (Test Series victory in Australia, ODI series victory in SA) after multiple tours (now don't give the excuse of Poor Australian/South African sides today! IPL is not responsible for the drop in quality of those teams! As if the teams in the past never had average players in them! If at all - these current teams have better exposure to Indian batsmen & bowlers today as they do play Pyjama Cricket!)

So your only way to defend Pant is to bring in Dhoni into the discussion? Mate! Aus was **** poor during the recent test series no matter if you agree or not. Against England, Dhoni's record is 4 losses, 1 draw, 1 win. Aganist SA, 2 losses, 2 Draw and 2 wins. Aus was the only place where Dhoni couldn't win a Test as a captain and now compare this to the captaincy record of chump Kohli overseas. A disastrous test series in SA and England despite Pants and KLs and Kohlis scoring centuries! This myth about Kohli being a better Test captain is just so overrated that people make him out to be some second coming of Kapil Dev! His tactical blunders and team selections in SA tour is a testament for how joke of a captain he is! And you're talking about SA ODI series win as if he accomplished it on his own. Dhoni's contribution as on-field captain and his incredible wicketkeeping that helped Kulcha were one of the major reasons for that series win besides chump's batting performance. Kohli is the most terrible captain to represent Team India in LOI cricket and his accomplishments are not because he's a great tactician, but because he's guided by MS. I would want Indian Team management to rest Dhoni for a couple of crunch matches to see in the coming WC to test how incredible Kohli as a tactician is! He's just another Sarfaraz with no Plan B of action when going gets tough! Let the hack Pant start playing some responsible cricket first to even put him on the same lines of Dhoni for discussions!
 
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This match proves that AB is right about IPL. One didnt know who will win the trophy till the last ball was bowled.

Actually the cricket on offer in final was entertaining but very sloppy. Bumrah was perfect and couple of other players were good. Other players made way too many mistakes.
 
So your only way to defend Pant is to bring in Dhoni into the discussion? Mate! Aus was **** poor during the recent test series no matter if you agree or not. Against England, Dhoni's record is 4 losses, 1 draw, 1 win. Aganist SA, 2 losses, 2 Draw and 2 wins. Aus was the only place where Dhoni couldn't win a Test as a captain and now compare this to the captaincy record of chump Kohli overseas. A disastrous test series in SA and England despite Pants and KLs and Kohlis scoring centuries! This myth about Kohli being a better Test captain is just so overrated that people make him out to be some second coming of Kapil Dev! His tactical blunders and team selections in SA tour is a testament for how joke of a captain he is! And you're talking about SA ODI series win as if he accomplished it on his own. Dhoni's contribution as on-field captain and his incredible wicketkeeping that helped Kulcha were one of the major reasons for that series win besides chump's batting performance. Kohli is the most terrible captain to represent Team India in LOI cricket and his accomplishments are not because he's a great tactician, but because he's guided by MS. I would want Indian Team management to rest Dhoni for a couple of crunch matches to see in the coming WC to test how incredible Kohli as a tactician is! He's just another Sarfaraz with no Plan B of action when going gets tough! Let the hack Pant start playing some responsible cricket first to even put him on the same lines of Dhoni for discussions!

Oh, you have gone completely out of topic here! Where am I talking about Dhoni & Kohli here? And their captaincy? And I am not a fan of Kohli's captaincy either! More than that I am a big hater of Ravi Shastri as coach! (I have criticized & expressed anger about all these aspects if you have observed!) Dhoni cannot captain the team forever and I don't want him as coach either (I am sure Kohli will keep looking at him in the dressing room for guidance!) But its difficult to get over Kohli as captain, just like how its difficult to get over Dhoni as Batsman (I am still a fan of his WK and LOI Captaincy!) They are Big Brandnames and we have to live with that!

Dhoni is the legend I agree, but I want this team to move on... (But I also know very much that we could not win much overseas tests under him! Please don't give the excuse of depleted Australian team). Heck in this post I was not referring to Dhoni specifically I was referring to all the old Indian Teams over the history what they couldn't achieve in Australia! I was referring to how so-called IPL-stars what they achieved in other international formats (and the toughest of that - "Overseas Tests"! Please don't dilute it by calling Weak Australian Side! I have seen when I was kid how our yester-era superstars lost to weakest WI sides which hardly had any batsmen only had some veteran bowlers in their last leg! That Indian Team couldn't win even there!)

So this post was only based on what IPL stars achieved and not about Kohli or Dhoni and their captaincy!
 
At last, the perfect Final to mask the preceding 7 week circus of over-hyped cricketing boredom.

World Cup 2015 was also a boredom with mostly one-sided affairs (and that too 50 overs to bear) Let's hope this world cup to be more competitive with the lower ranked teams showing up something more than table-bottom teams of IPL :)
 
Actually the cricket on offer in final was entertaining but very sloppy. Bumrah was perfect and couple of other players were good. Other players made way too many mistakes.

Thats always the case with tensed/pressure matches! (e.g. Australia vs South Africa in 1999) Players will not play exactly according to their skills, mental strength comes into play!
 
You putting down some players (especially upcoming ones) is more brutal than anyone wanting India to lose (certainly I have not done that!). It is the same players who form the team later! Pant is not selected, but Pandya is selected! So even you are not a clear winner either! I am wondering how you were bashing Rohit Sharma when he was struggling for form few years ago! It is much easier to praise the proven players than backing a budding player who is yet to go through the various difficulties of new challenges!

I am free to criticise any player I want just like you are free to support them. So don't tell me what should I post here.

Regarding Rohit Sharma, this is the third time I have seen you making this up. When you have nothing else to say you start to pull things out from your backside lol. Shabaash. :inti
 
Oh, you have gone completely out of topic here! Where am I talking about Dhoni & Kohli here? And their captaincy? And I am not a fan of Kohli's captaincy either! More than that I am a big hater of Ravi Shastri as coach! (I have criticized & expressed anger about all these aspects if you have observed!) Dhoni cannot captain the team forever and I don't want him as coach either (I am sure Kohli will keep looking at him in the dressing room for guidance!) But its difficult to get over Kohli as captain, just like how its difficult to get over Dhoni as Batsman (I am still a fan of his WK and LOI Captaincy!) They are Big Brandnames and we have to live with that!

Dhoni is the legend I agree, but I want this team to move on... (But I also know very much that we could not win much overseas tests under him! Please don't give the excuse of depleted Australian team). Heck in this post I was not referring to Dhoni specifically I was referring to all the old Indian Teams over the history what they couldn't achieve in Australia! I was referring to how so-called IPL-stars what they achieved in other international formats (and the toughest of that - "Overseas Tests"! Please don't dilute it by calling Weak Australian Side! I have seen when I was kid how our yester-era superstars lost to weakest WI sides which hardly had any batsmen only had some veteran bowlers in their last leg! That Indian Team couldn't win even there!)

So this post was only based on what IPL stars achieved and not about Kohli or Dhoni and their captaincy!

My bad! I’m sorry I misunderstood the context. There’s absolutely no contest between players of Pre-IPL era and IPL-era because IPL has certainly helped in raising the quality and standards of Indian cricket.

But the 2019 Final was not something I enjoyed the most. Not because CSK lost it, it just looked like a contest between two poor teams besides the fantastic spell of Bumrah. It's surprising that Thala’s CSK has made it to the final despite having such poor players like Thakurs, Rayudus and Rainas. The batting line-up is simply non-existent and MI made the final look like a thrilling nail-biting contest because of their missed opportunities and poor captaincy. I don’t remember when was the last time Jadeja even finished a game for his IPL team or national team. CSK need a complete overhaul next year.
 
I am free to criticise any player I want just like you are free to support them. So don't tell me what should I post here.

Regarding Rohit Sharma, this is the third time I have seen you making this up. When you have nothing else to say you start to pull things out from your backside lol. Shabaash. :inti

Similarly we are free to love & enjoy a proud Indian league which has raised the standards of our "game"! Please don't keep name-calling us like Pyjama Cricket-fans, Tullibaazi league fans, Choti-khushiyan fans, and what not! We believe that IPL has given a whole new dimension to our cricket! Bumrah is 10 times greater than all Indian pacers so far put together, and for the first time we have World's current Best pacer to be an "Indian"! (I am 2000% clear that Bumrah would not have been the same bowler as he is without IPL! He got the right nurturing, right intense platform, right tests, right boosters, right benefits to grow at the right time! We are also seeing plenty other bowlers coming up learning how to bowl in adverse conditions, especially wrist spinners!)

And the player whom you accuse the most - is at least not a trundler and can crank speed more than 140km regularly and if he becomes consistent (the only drawback of him currently) then he will turn this team to a devastating outfit (and more such players can emerge in future - courtesy IPL which can feed them & look after them in the struggling days!) So don't keep pulling IPL from all your sides lolz and we can't say Shabaash for that!
 
I am not a supporter of IPL but still feel we witnessed a truly game of cricket even if cricketing standards fell,with entertainment at its supreme depth.The run chase of Chennai Super Kings had a continuous ebb and flow with Shane Watson literally playing the role of a pivot or motor.Mumbai Indians had the marginal edge after the dismisals of Rayadu and Dhoni and were favourites with 62 still needed of 5 overs.However when Watson turned the screws with a blazing onslaught it looked as though it was set,game and match won with only 18 required of the final 2 overs.However from the depths of despair Mumbai Indian spectacularly ressurected themselves like a phoenix from the Ashes with amazing bowling at the death.Thus a walk in the park for CSK in the end was reverted like a sensational change in the plot of a novel in the climax.Ofcourse CSK had major reprieves with 3 catches dropped of Watson at the start and in the concluding stages which may well have turned the nails in the coffin and enabled MI to win far more convincingly.At the conclusion it was the great bowling skill of Bhumra and Malinga which prevented CSK from puttying the final icing on the cake in dramatic style.Their effort was truly a revelation.

Still generally cricketing standard was not satisfactory with so many dropped catches,hardly any substantial scoring and a lot of misfielding.
 
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Still generally cricketing standard was not satisfactory with so many dropped catches,hardly any substantial scoring and a lot of misfielding.

Such things you will find even in world cup matches. The drama will be created due to pressure, expectations and intensity of the game (from the player's point of view), and that's what makes it more interesting! And also you should note that (from viewer's point of view) such big games are watched by irregular cricket fans and even non-cricket buffs who do not even understand the game fully! So there should be some unpredictability factor and humanly factors which can take the game closer to them!

This happens even in soccer games where the giants in the local leagues look out of place in the World Cup some times! The best example in Cricket itself - the monsters of Bilateral Cricket - South Africa (even bigger than Australia when it comes to bilaterals!) are awful in tournaments and they appear to make such silly mistakes (the Duckworth-Lewis mistake against Sri Lanka!)
 
33% of this year's IPL were decided in the last over! Not a fan but casually followed most of the matches, especially the ones with U19 stars. Ryan Parag impressed me the most along side R. Chahar. Gill, Shaw had avg outings. Pant can learn a thing two from the 17 years old Parag's tempartment.
 
Wounded Warrior. He could still walk into many international teams. Such an impact player in LOI cricket.
 
My respect for Shane Watson has gone up 10 times. Its always amazing to see an active international player giving in his blood and sweat for a low quality team just to make them feel relevant. :inti
 
My respect for Shane Watson has gone up 10 times. Its always amazing to see an active international player giving in his blood and sweat for a low quality team just to make them feel relevant. :inti

On the same logic I would say all the Indian batsmen and bowlers who went to play county cricket in 80s & 90s were traitors because it was not helping us any bit (we were getting hammered brilliantly in all the overseas tours and even some home series!) It only helped them make some cheap money (just like IPL money :) ) personally filling their pockets because cricketers were getting paid paltry amount for playing both international and domestic cricket those days (So English currency looked big to them obviously! And some were dependent on Govt. Jobs especially railways!)

This I have to say because you criticize IPL in spite of there is clear evidence of it giving so much financial security to players & improving their skills (plus winning percentage improved in your favorite "International" cricket!) and you bring up silly "injury" issue always as though players in the past were super fit and never got injured/missed any matches!
 
On the same logic I would say all the Indian batsmen and bowlers who went to play county cricket in 80s & 90s were traitors because it was not helping us any bit (we were getting hammered brilliantly in all the overseas tours and even some home series!) It only helped them make some cheap money (just like IPL money :) ) personally filling their pockets because cricketers were getting paid paltry amount for playing both international and domestic cricket those days (So English currency looked big to them obviously! And some were dependent on Govt. Jobs especially railways!)

This I have to say because you criticize IPL in spite of there is clear evidence of it giving so much financial security to players & improving their skills (plus winning percentage improved in your favorite "International" cricket!) and you bring up silly "injury" issue always as though players in the past were super fit and never got injured/missed any matches!

Trying ot explain logic to BVB. Trump might lift sanctions of north Korea and Iran earlier
 
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