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Mustafizur Rahman v Mohammad Amir - BPL (2016)

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Just the two players and their stats. Just stats. Talent and potential is great. But its time to deliver now.

First match.
Amir:

1st Over - Maiden
2nd Over - 5 runs and 2 wickets [Simmons and Sarkar]
3rd Over - 17 runs
4th Over - 8 runs and 2 wickets [Perera and Misbah]

Final tally - 30/4

Mustafizur:
1st Over - 1 run and a wicket [Marlon Samuels]
 
Aamer though got more swing with new ball and on day 1 he has been the only one to extract swing
 
5 wickets down for Comilla and Mustafizur has just bowled an over.
 
Both are left armers but quite different

Aamer relies on swing, where as Mustafiz has a killer off-cutter. From what i have seen Mustafiz would be extremely hard to face in T20 and ODI format when batters have to score quickly
 
Amir ahead by miles on results today so far. Mustafizur being tonked around by Mashrafe and Santokie...
 
Since when did we start accepting this blatant trolling? What the actual hell? Mohd Amir was in a different league as an 18 year old and this new kid is nothing like him, Way too many people nowdays judging cricket through numbers rather than actually watching and learning the game.
 
At today's performance Aamir wins the race he took 4 wickets, hurried batsman with his quick deleiveries. Mustafizur got only one and didn't ball that well as usually he does.
 
Amir wins today hands down. He got the 2 matchwinners in the same over. Knocking back misbahs stumps is very difficult. Both bowlers were great though
 
Mustafizur just have off cutter. He is just like sohail TANVEER of 2007.or u can say better version of sohail. I don't like amir but he is complete bowler. Can bowl deadly bouncer. Which is must have skill for fast bowler. Mustaifzur cannot dream of bowling bouncer. There is no comparison.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Since when did we start accepting this blatant trolling? What the actual hell? Mohd Amir was in a different league as an 18 year old and this new kid is nothing like him, Way too many people nowdays judging cricket through numbers rather than actually watching and learning the game.
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Mustaf is a new bowler with promise and Amir is returning to cricket after five years. And they are playing in the same tournament. What is inappropriate about this thread? You would be right if Amir is already an established international bowler in 2015. Amir's exploits as an 18 year old have no bearing on this argument.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Since when did we start accepting this blatant trolling? What the actual hell? Mohd Amir was in a different league as an 18 year old and this new kid is nothing like him, Way too many people nowadays judging cricket through numbers rather than actually watching and learning the game.
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well said , its ridiculous how these immature comparisons are even thought of . Amir the bowler at 18 was very very special , mustafizur has not even half the skill set of amir . As a genuine fast bowler amir had pace ,swing ,control ,bounce and whatever one could dream of from a ideal fast bowler .

While mustafizur has good cutters and seam movement ,occasionally he surprises with pace with an effort ball. He is lacking in all the other departments. Let him first catch up ( if ever ). Then one may consider comparing. Until that time Amir and day light and day light.
 
sohailmm said:
well said , its ridiculous how these immature comparisons are even thought of . Amir the bowler at 18 was very very special , mustafizur has not even half the skill set of amir . As a genuine fast bowler amir had pace ,swing ,control ,bounce and whatever one could dream of from a ideal fast bowler .

While mustafizur has good cutters and seam movement ,occasionally he surprises with pace with an effort ball. He is lacking in all the other departments. Let him first catch up ( if ever ). Then one may consider comparing. Until that time Amir and day light and day light.
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Amir was a dream prospect. A once in a generation talent. He will never be like that again i am afraid but to compare every other trundling young bowler with him is OTT. Amir was special, a one off. Amir was Irfan Pathan + 5kph and i even think Irfan at 18 was a dream prospect but Amir, faster and just had a natural mean fast bowler feel to him.
 
IndianWillow said:
Mustaf is a new bowler with promise and Amir is returning to cricket after five years. And they are playing in the same tournament. What is inappropriate about this thread? You would be right if Amir is already an established international bowler in 2015. Amir's exploits as an 18 year old have no bearing on this argument.
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I am sorry but you are as always just trying to come across as acceptable to Bangla lobby and afraid to speak out the harsh truth. This trend is an absolute disgrace and PP posters must stop behaving like politicians catering to their vote banks in every other thread, giving politically correct statements, brown nosing and sitting on the fence always.

As much as i enjoy bringing down any arrogant Pkaistani, its a bleeding truth that Amir at 18 was a onc ein a generation talent that Mushtafiqur could never dream of becoming. So how come there is a 5 pager 'Mushti as talented as Amir' thread on PP, if not for all these fickle posters out there who simply can't act like men.

Also i hope the higher authorities are watching this trend and crack down heavily on lame threads being made without any evidence.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Amir was a dream prospect. A once in a generation talent. He will never be like that again i am afraid but to compare every other trundling young bowler with him is OTT. Amir was special, a one off. Amir was Irfan Pathan + 5kph and i even think Irfan at 18 was a dream prospect but Amir, faster and just had a natural mean fast bowler feel to him.
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Irfan Pathan was much slower than amir
 
Firstly Amir's second wicket of Soumya was a gift from the umpire. Soumya was taking Amir on and was just about to show him who's boss before the moron umpire gave him out.

Amir got the wickets of Misbah and Perera when they were going at everything.

On the other hand this is how Mustafizur set up Samuels:
3.1 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Short and wide from Mustafizur, Samuels swings, but goes over his bat
3.2 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Slower delivery outside off, Samuels swings once again, but is miles away from the ball
3.3 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Pitches on off, late movement beats Samuels
3.4 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Shortish this time on leg, Mustafizur gets ample movement, ends up on off, beats Samuels again
3.5 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, OUT, Magnificent delivery! He set him up there. This one was on the perfect length, Samuels didn't have anywhere to go. He was stuck on the crease, ball comes off his pad to take the leg-stump bail

Amir will never have the brains of Mustafizur.

Today Amir won but this is only one match of a meaningless tournament. Mustafizur has proven himself in real cricket against the best opposition in the world. If you do want to make comparisons from this tournament wait until the end of the tournament to see who has the better stats.
 
Dios said:
Firstly Amir's second wicket of Soumya was a gift from the umpire. Soumya was taking Amir on and was just about to show him who's boss before the moron umpire gave him out.

Amir got the wickets of Misbah and Perera when they were going at everything.

On the other hand this is how Mustafizur set up Samuels:
3.1 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Short and wide from Mustafizur, Samuels swings, but goes over his bat
3.2 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Slower delivery outside off, Samuels swings once again, but is miles away from the ball
3.3 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Pitches on off, late movement beats Samuels
3.4 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Shortish this time on leg, Mustafizur gets ample movement, ends up on off, beats Samuels again
3.5 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, OUT, Magnificent delivery! He set him up there. This one was on the perfect length, Samuels didn't have anywhere to go. He was stuck on the crease, ball comes off his pad to take the leg-stump bail

Amir will never have the brains of Mustafizur.

Today Amir won but this is only one match of a meaningless tournament. Mustafizur has proven himself in real cricket against the best opposition in the world. If you do want to make comparisons from this tournament wait until the end of the tournament to see who has the better stats.
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So sarkar was just about to take him on. Did he tell you this?
Sarkar was lucky to still have been out there after the dropped catch by Asif.

What's real cricket?
How many test matches has mustafizur won for Bangladesh so far?
 
Dios said:
Firstly Amir's second wicket of Soumya was a gift from the umpire. Soumya was taking Amir on and was just about to show him who's boss before the moron umpire gave him out.

Amir got the wickets of Misbah and Perera when they were going at everything.

On the other hand this is how Mustafizur set up Samuels:
3.1 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Short and wide from Mustafizur, Samuels swings, but goes over his bat
3.2 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Slower delivery outside off, Samuels swings once again, but is miles away from the ball
3.3 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Pitches on off, late movement beats Samuels
3.4 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Shortish this time on leg, Mustafizur gets ample movement, ends up on off, beats Samuels again
3.5 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, OUT, Magnificent delivery! He set him up there. This one was on the perfect length, Samuels didn't have anywhere to go. He was stuck on the crease, ball comes off his pad to take the leg-stump bail

Amir will never have the brains of Mustafizur.

Today Amir won but this is only one match of a meaningless tournament. Mustafizur has proven himself in real cricket against the best opposition in the world. If you do want to make comparisons from this tournament wait until the end of the tournament to see who has the better stats.
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Please, mustafiz looks up to him as an idol. Plus you think Amir hasn't proven himself against oppositions?? In not just bowling but batting too.
But in the end who had 4 wickets, not mustafiz.
 
Dios said:
Firstly Amir's second wicket of Soumya was a gift from the umpire. Soumya was taking Amir on and was just about to show him who's boss before the moron umpire gave him out.

Amir got the wickets of Misbah and Perera when they were going at everything.

On the other hand this is how Mustafizur set up Samuels:
3.1 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Short and wide from Mustafizur, Samuels swings, but goes over his bat
3.2 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Slower delivery outside off, Samuels swings once again, but is miles away from the ball
3.3 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Pitches on off, late movement beats Samuels
3.4 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Shortish this time on leg, Mustafizur gets ample movement, ends up on off, beats Samuels again
3.5 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, OUT, Magnificent delivery! He set him up there. This one was on the perfect length, Samuels didn't have anywhere to go. He was stuck on the crease, ball comes off his pad to take the leg-stump bail

Amir will never have the brains of Mustafizur.

Today Amir won but this is only one match of a meaningless tournament. Mustafizur has proven himself in real cricket against the best opposition in the world. If you do want to make comparisons from this tournament wait until the end of the tournament to see who has the better stats.
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"Amir will never have the brains of Mustafizur"

Please calm down, I understand your an excited BD fan but please don't put down another player for no reason. Especially when it comes to the mental capacity, of another player. I hope Mustifazar has a great career, and he looks promising but please refrain from this brash behavior. I would take Amir in his current form over Mustafizur myself, I know what Amir is capable of based on his past performance. He's gone up against the best in the world, and proven himself as well. He will get back to similar form soon, if given the chance by PCB.
 
This Bangladeshi bowler is a nobody until he's played enough Tests and done well in them.
 
:))) :))) The Bangladeshis breaking down Amir's spell and trying to make themselves feel good that he didn't earn the wickets. Seems like the thread is backfiring already. If any other bowler picked up a 4-fer he'd be praised.

Just like how a batsman ends up scoring a heroic 100, but his haters will try their best to drag it through the dirt. Very shameful.

Amir got an unhelpful pitch which was a batsman's paradise and still came out with respectable figures.

Fizzler got a bowler's paradise and could only nab a wicket.

Heh :misbah
 
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freelance_cricketer said:
I am sorry but you are as always just trying to come across as acceptable to Bangla lobby and afraid to speak out the harsh truth. This trend is an absolute disgrace and PP posters must stop behaving like politicians catering to their vote banks in every other thread, giving politically correct statements, brown nosing and sitting on the fence always.

As much as i enjoy bringing down any arrogant Pkaistani, its a bleeding truth that Amir at 18 was a onc ein a generation talent that Mushtafiqur could never dream of becoming. So how come there is a 5 pager 'Mushti as talented as Amir' thread on PP, if not for all these fickle posters out there who simply can't act like men.

Also i hope the higher authorities are watching this trend and crack down heavily on lame threads being made without any evidence.
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I am lobbying for Bangla? That is news for me. And what would I gain by appeasing a few Bangla fans here? AFAIK I rarely make politically correct statements, unless I feel that I would seriously offend someone.

Amir is yet to play an international match for five years and thus what he did five years ago should not be used in an argument. If you haven't already checked out, Amir was marked for greatness but even at 18 he had done well only in favourable English conditions.
 
Dios said:
Firstly Amir's second wicket of Soumya was a gift from the umpire. Soumya was taking Amir on and was just about to show him who's boss before the moron umpire gave him out.

Amir got the wickets of Misbah and Perera when they were going at everything.

On the other hand this is how Mustafizur set up Samuels:
3.1 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Short and wide from Mustafizur, Samuels swings, but goes over his bat
3.2 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Slower delivery outside off, Samuels swings once again, but is miles away from the ball
3.3 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Pitches on off, late movement beats Samuels
3.4 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Shortish this time on leg, Mustafizur gets ample movement, ends up on off, beats Samuels again
3.5 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, OUT, Magnificent delivery! He set him up there. This one was on the perfect length, Samuels didn't have anywhere to go. He was stuck on the crease, ball comes off his pad to take the leg-stump bail

Amir will never have the brains of Mustafizur.

Today Amir won but this is only one match of a meaningless tournament. Mustafizur has proven himself in real cricket against the best opposition in the world. If you do want to make comparisons from this tournament wait until the end of the tournament to see who has the better stats.
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In JAMODIS, all at home.

People like you make it really hard for any decent Pak fan to like your team, fans and players.
 
IndianWillow said:
I am lobbying for Bangla? That is news for me. And what would I gain by appeasing a few Bangla fans here? AFAIK I rarely make politically correct statements, unless I feel that I would seriously offend someone.

Amir is yet to play an international match for five years and thus what he did five years ago should not be used in an argument. If you haven't already checked out, Amir was marked for greatness but even at 18 he had done well only in favourable English conditions.
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Amir had and still has better skillset than Boult. Boult was poor in the UAE for the most part, now poor in Australia. Doesn't mean he's bad.

Amir has been owning everyone on flat pitches of Pakistan. You just saw a live example of how good he is after these five years. And he has the skills to use the old ball at pace.

Try to judge a bowler based on how they should be judged.
 
When a bowler that can swing (SWING not CUTTERS) both ways we can have discussion, Mustafizur had great success without much swing while Aamir CAN swing the fudge outta bowl any freakin direction no comparison amigos
 
How many people can understand this in regard to Mustafiz " marasiyan kharr puttar jamya, chum chum maarta ".
 
Mustafizur Rahman is a good young prospect.

His issue comes down to not being a complete package. Can he get the ball to swing? Does he have a pacy bouncer? Can he do it away from home?

Amir has questions too. Can he perform better than he did 5 years ago? Does he still have the same venom?

In the end, I think it's a good battle, but Amir has the tools already. It is more about getting back into rhythm while Rahman has a lot to learn. Amir at 17 was better in my opinion than Rahman at this age just from their ability (not stats).
 
From being compared to Wasim Akram, to a one dimensional bowler who has only just come on to the scene.

It's poor to compare a world class talent that was up there with an ATG bowler like Steyn to a bowler like Rahman who has a limited arsenal and has yet to truly prove himself.
 
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Aman said:
From being compared to Wasim Akram, to a one dimensional bowler who has only just come on to the scene.

Find it poor to compare a world class talent that was up there with an ATG bowler like Steyn to be compared to a bowler who has just come on to the scene with very few comparable attributes.
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He was compared to Akram (so was IKP) when he was playing international cricket.He has not played int cricket for more than 5 years and isn't even fit to play test matches, hence the comparison is not odd.
 
ali2220 said:
He was compared to Akram (so was IKP) when he was playing international cricket.He has not played int cricket for more than 5 years and isn't even fit to play test matches, hence the comparison is not odd.
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It is odd.

5 years absence doesn't remove natural talent, it's all about getting game time and becoming match fit.
 
Amir to me was the most complete fast bowler after Styen. After him cumins and Rabada looks like have a talent to be bowler of that category.

Muzstifar does not looks like that versatile kind of bowling talent. I would be very surprised if he can reach anywhere close to that... At the same time, if Amir remains fit I would be disappointed if in next 2/3 years he doe not reaching the level of World class fast bowler.


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Aman said:
It is odd.

5 years absence doesn't remove natural talent, it's all about getting game time and becoming match fit.
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That is true, biggest battle is fitness (both mentally and physically). For Amir getting back to mid 140s on consistent basis will take some time. But skill part is not a major problem... His bowling technique was excellent from the beginning, he has very good action, wrist release, control and range of deliveries (Good, bouncer, Yorker, full). At that time all at pace, he is getting there.... His action is not very taxing and repeatable.

If you have to teach somebody how to bowl left arm, you will show his action more so than somebody like Wasim or Johnson(although he is very different kind of bowler). No wonder Maustafir's role model is Amir.


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freelance_cricketer said:
Since when did we start accepting this blatant trolling? What the actual hell? Mohd Amir was in a different league as an 18 year old and this new kid is nothing like him, Way too many people nowdays judging cricket through numbers rather than actually watching and learning the game.
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sohailmm said:
well said , its ridiculous how these immature comparisons are even thought of . Amir the bowler at 18 was very very special , mustafizur has not even half the skill set of amir . As a genuine fast bowler amir had pace ,swing ,control ,bounce and whatever one could dream of from a ideal fast bowler .

While mustafizur has good cutters and seam movement ,occasionally he surprises with pace with an effort ball. He is lacking in all the other departments. Let him first catch up ( if ever ). Then one may consider comparing. Until that time Amir and day light and day light.
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Read the thread title. Its to track their performance.

Heck even in the other thread I said that Amir is wayyyy better than Mustafizur. This is just to see how perhaps the two best bowlers in the tournament, keep developing throughout the tournament. If we could have separate threads for Salman khan and PRDP in spite of having a bollywood thread, surely one thread to follow their stats won't do much harm :P
 
Dios said:
Firstly Amir's second wicket of Soumya was a gift from the umpire. Soumya was taking Amir on and was just about to show him who's boss before the moron umpire gave him out.

Amir got the wickets of Misbah and Perera when they were going at everything.

On the other hand this is how Mustafizur set up Samuels:
3.1 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Short and wide from Mustafizur, Samuels swings, but goes over his bat
3.2 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Slower delivery outside off, Samuels swings once again, but is miles away from the ball
3.3 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Pitches on off, late movement beats Samuels
3.4 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Shortish this time on leg, Mustafizur gets ample movement, ends up on off, beats Samuels again
3.5 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, OUT, Magnificent delivery! He set him up there. This one was on the perfect length, Samuels didn't have anywhere to go. He was stuck on the crease, ball comes off his pad to take the leg-stump bail

Amir will never have the brains of Mustafizur.

Today Amir won but this is only one match of a meaningless tournament. Mustafizur has proven himself in real cricket against the best opposition in the world. If you do want to make comparisons from this tournament wait until the end of the tournament to see who has the better stats.
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And Amir has proven him self in EA Sports cricket?????
 
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freelance_cricketer said:
I am sorry but you are as always just trying to come across as acceptable to Bangla lobby and afraid to speak out the harsh truth. This trend is an absolute disgrace and PP posters must stop behaving like politicians catering to their vote banks in every other thread, giving politically correct statements, brown nosing and sitting on the fence always.

As much as i enjoy bringing down any arrogant Pkaistani, its a bleeding truth that Amir at 18 was a onc ein a generation talent that Mushtafiqur could never dream of becoming. So how come there is a 5 pager 'Mushti as talented as Amir' thread on PP, if not for all these fickle posters out there who simply can't act like men.

Also i hope the higher authorities are watching this trend and crack down heavily on lame threads being made without any evidence.
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Lol calm down we know how aamir started so de we know how mustafiz started so far mustafiz recod of starting say mustafiz a way better bowler then aamir, don't beleive ask your entire batting line up and saffers who tonk you in odi mustafiz toyed de coq in odi. Mustafiz the man who took 3 consequative 5wkts haul within 9 matches. That's a record. Now aamir is coming back lets see how he does in international level. Bpl just started mustafiz and aamir will have enough time to haul wickets. One game doesn't say much about both of them. But as i said msutafizur has done in international level in limited over wihtin short time what aamir couldn't do. Yes aamir does have swing may be you love swing but mustafizur has his own variations which are probably more difficult for batsman to cope with then just swings. It is not like that other bowlers doesn't have swing, probbably swing is th e one you love but end result is how you foax out batsman and tha's what mustafizur has done so far kicking entire batting line up with his own tricky deliveries not once but thrice and some big fishes two or three times in same series. Now you passion for aamir is your's but still mustafizur is ahead of aamir by the record which is fact. Now you deny it or not fact still sat as fact. Lets see how future turned them which direction.
 
Dios said:
Firstly Amir's second wicket of Soumya was a gift from the umpire. Soumya was taking Amir on and was just about to show him who's boss before the moron umpire gave him out.

Amir got the wickets of Misbah and Perera when they were going at everything.

On the other hand this is how Mustafizur set up Samuels:
3.1 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Short and wide from Mustafizur, Samuels swings, but goes over his bat
3.2 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Slower delivery outside off, Samuels swings once again, but is miles away from the ball
3.3 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Pitches on off, late movement beats Samuels
3.4 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, no run, Shortish this time on leg, Mustafizur gets ample movement, ends up on off, beats Samuels again
3.5 Mustafizur Rahman to Samuels, OUT, Magnificent delivery! He set him up there. This one was on the perfect length, Samuels didn't have anywhere to go. He was stuck on the crease, ball comes off his pad to take the leg-stump bail

Amir will never have the brains of Mustafizur.

Today Amir won but this is only one match of a meaningless tournament. Mustafizur has proven himself in real cricket against the best opposition in the world. If you do want to make comparisons from this tournament wait until the end of the tournament to see who has the better stats.
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"Show him who's boss" :'D Yup the ATG that is Soumya was going to swallow the trundling, talentless cheat in one bite.
 
#GreenRoars said:
And Amir has proven him self in EA Sports cricket?????
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My friend i think we all are getting bit too excited by the bpl one game, lets see hiw both do end of the bpl and lets see if aamir comes back internation level how he can cope with. So far mustafizur international record is healthy in limited over doesn't mattre what type pf pitch or where he bowls. We don't need to compare them again and again as far mustafizur's short record in odi comparing aamir, mustafizur is ahead of aamir. That's fact. i think we are just making too much noise the rivalry of these two. Lets wait aamir comes back in international arena and just win the race. I am a fan of aamir too and well wisher but when people just trying to make mustafizur like nothing but air that's annoy me. Cause what he has done so far not aamir Nor even so many greats hasn't achieved in that short time. But i dont take it granted like mustafizur is greater then greats. It's the potential and his skill' and his wicket taking Abilities which make us proud that how wonderful a bowler he is.
 
Bangladesh_Fan said:
So are we judging players based on Twenty20s these days?
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Well i think it is some jelous indians who are making things noiser then the pakistanis, how can indian forgot the huniliation by mustafiz which just put the chillies on their wound when hear name of mustafiz. I can completely understand them, who doesn't if a teenager toying with your god like legends thrice in a same series who can tolerate this tiny looking mustafiz. For pakistanis i can understand they lost their prodigy once now seeing another prodigy coming from another country, hard to accept is't it? Although stats and facts favor mustafiz. So no worry lets them enjoy how they looks the things.
 
Mustafizur overtakes Amir playing one match less.

Amir:
4 matches
6 wickets @ 15.33
Econ: 6.65
Strike-rate: 13.8

Mustafizur:
3 matches
6 wickets @ 12.66
Econ: 6.51
Strike-rate: 11.6

But Mohammad Shahid has left them both behind:
3 matches
6 wickets @ 9.00
Econ: 4.69
Strike-rate: 11.5
 
Dios said:
Mustafizur overtakes Amir playing one match less.

But Mohammad Shahid has left them both behind:
3 matches
6 wickets @ 9.00
Econ: 4.69
Strike-rate: 11.5
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Yup, always maintained Shahid is a better bowler than both, specially Amir.

Stats clearly show he's far superior. Then comes Mustafizur, after him Amir.
 
^I don't know if you are being sarcastic but Shahid is a fine pacer with excellent control. His stats don't reflect how well he bowled in the Tests he has played so far. He created a lot of chances on absolute dead wickets but was let down by the fielders. Too bad Mashrafe is hoarding a place due to being captain when he is no longer even among the top 5 pacers in Bangladesh right now. Shahid should be playing in all formats for Bangladesh.
 
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Dios said:
^I don't know if you are being sarcastic but Shahid is a fine pacer with excellent control. His stats don't reflect how well he bowled in the Tests he has played so far. He created a lot of chances on absolute dead wickets but was let down by the fielders. Too bad Mashrafe is hoarding a place due to being captain when he is no longer even among the top 5 pacers in Bangladesh right now. Shahid should be playing in all formats for Bangladesh.
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Where's sarcasm?

Stats clearly show he's far superior. They also show Mustafizur to be a beast.

Shahid > Mustafizur > Amir. Why don't you agree with this? Performance counts
 
Indian_Supporter said:
Who is Mohammed Shahid? That left arm trundler who played that solitary test against India?

Still remember Vijay and Dhawan absolutely smacked that trundler all round the park with an opening partnership of 283 :91:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/870729.html
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One match doesn't prove anything.

Look at the stats and performances [MENTION=137485]Dios[/MENTION] posted above. What you're doing consistently makes you special, and Shahid is definitely the best bowler in Bangladesh at the moment.

Heck, one of the best in the world. Already overtook Mustafizur and Amir cuz his stats are just so awesome.

Dios too would agree, because he believed that mustafizur is better than Amir courtesy better stats and performances.
 
Dios said:
Mustafizur overtakes Amir playing one match less.

Amir:
4 matches
6 wickets @ 15.33
Econ: 6.65
Strike-rate: 13.8

Mustafizur:
3 matches
6 wickets @ 12.66
Econ: 6.51
Strike-rate: 11.6

But Mohammad Shahid has left them both behind:
3 matches
6 wickets @ 9.00
Econ: 4.69
Strike-rate: 11.5
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watch cricket meray bhai instead of just reading stats
 
zabalestmsm said:
How was Amir today guys?
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Ordinary, comparing it to his last matches. Although he had extra pressure due to the very low total to defend (93), he wasnt that dangerous, and lacked pace - like stated by Pakcricket89 - , if im not mistaken by those speed guns, who showed him bowling just merely between 130-135 kph. But nevertheless, i still think, that he is bowling a lot better than the rest of the pacers lot in the team.
 
IndianWillow said:
I am lobbying for Bangla? That is news for me. And what would I gain by appeasing a few Bangla fans here? AFAIK I rarely make politically correct statements, unless I feel that I would seriously offend someone.
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You don't have to explain yourself here. FC would have said the same if you were supporting amir and he was supporting mustafiz. Some people just can't accept others having different opinions than theirs. It's a bit rich when a troll accuses others of trolling and opening OTT threads here.
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freelance_cricketer said:
I am sorry but you are as always just trying to come across as acceptable to Bangla lobby and afraid to speak out the harsh truth. This trend is an absolute disgrace and PP posters must stop behaving like politicians catering to their vote banks in every other thread, giving politically correct statements, brown nosing and sitting on the fence always.

As much as i enjoy bringing down any arrogant Pkaistani, its a bleeding truth that Amir at 18 was a onc ein a generation talent that Mushtafiqur could never dream of becoming. So how come there is a 5 pager 'Mushti as talented as Amir' thread on PP, if not for all these fickle posters out there who simply can't act like men.

Also i hope the higher authorities are watching this trend and crack down heavily on lame threads being made without any evidence.
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boss aap respect cheen kar leigayay
 
Amir is clearly quicker than Mustafizur, but Mustafizur has more tricks and better accuracy. Swing-wise, Amir looks complete.

Shahid doesn't have the pace to take a cluster of wickets, but he's a workhorse nonetheless. Can be a good choice in ODIs as well. He keeps things simple and tight.

The most impressive fast bowlers thus far has actually been Al-Amin and Kevin Copper. Best spinners thus far are Shakib and Yasir. I think Yasir should be part of Pakistan's T20 squad.
 
Clearly
Shahid > McGrath
Mustafizur > Wasim

Who is amir , what is his perfomance , he just bowled a maiden and took the wicket of leading run scorer(in that tourny i.e. dilshan) in t20 WC final , who is the youngest bowler to take 5 fer at MCG , who ran through English batting line up and embarrassed them , the holder of highest runs scored at no 10 , the bowler who embarrassed batsman like tendulkar , ponting , KP etc , the bowler who can bowl 140 kph + with swing ?
But still lord shahid and musta are better because the picked 4 and 3 wkts in a bpl match on a pitch that was being used 89999th time .

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one thing that nobody is talking about is that mustafizur has only played in Bangladesh, :facepalm:
now compare mustafizur in Bangladesh VS Anderson in England, or Mitch Johnson in Australia
 
Langau said:
one thing that nobody is talking about is that mustafizur has only played in Bangladesh, :facepalm:
now compare mustafizur in Bangladesh VS Anderson in England, or Mitch Johnson in Australia
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Hey genius what's Amir's bowling stats in Asian conditions huh? Everybody looks dangerous in Australian and English pitches where bowlers get substantial assistance from the pitch. Even our Ishant made ponting look like an absolute fool in border gavaskar series. But that doesn't necessarily mean he is some world class bowler.


Let mustafizur play in overseas then U'll see what he is truly capable of. Anyway so far mustafizur has bowled exceptionally well against some of the best batsman of the world in unfavourable conditions and statistically he has surpassed amir. There is nothing wrong in accepting the truth. :)
 
This thread has gone quiet and the bashers of Amir probably wishing they could delete their comments

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Feel sad for Amir his journey will end here because his BPL team and captain was pathetic and isn't going to qualify for next stage of the BPL. I wish he was picked by a better team
 
I wonder why Cooper never played for West Indies in T20s? he always perform in t20 leagues and deserve a call
 
Mustafizur has played two matches less than Amir. I'm sure he will end up with more than 11 wickets after playing eight matches. Chittagong wicket suited Amir with its pace and bounce while Mustafizur was better in Mirpur. Amir has been the better bowler so far and has been very impressive but we have to remember this is just a domestic T20 tournament and not a high-standard one at that. We have to wait and see how Amir does when he returns to international cricket. It is highly unlike he'll be able to match what Mustafizur has done in international cricket in his debut year.
 
Who is this Abu Haidar? Never heard of him before.. a Bangladeshi?
 
Dios said:
Mustafizur has played two matches less than Amir. I'm sure he will end up with more than 11 wickets after playing eight matches. Chittagong wicket suited Amir with its pace and bounce while Mustafizur was better in Mirpur. Amir has been the better bowler so far and has been very impressive but we have to remember this is just a domestic T20 tournament and not a high-standard one at that. We have to wait and see how Amir does when he returns to international cricket. It is highly unlike he'll be able to match what Mustafizur has done in international cricket in his debut year.
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Offcourse amir can't. Mustafizur is the greatest bowler of all time. How dare you take his name in a same breath with amir.
 
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Dios said:
We have to wait and see how Amir does when he returns to international cricket. It is highly unlike he'll be able to match what Mustafizur has done in international cricket in his debut year.
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Seriously?

Mustafizur Rahman has taken 4 Test wickets in his entire life.

Mohammad Amir took 51 Test wickets in his debut year - and he was 2 years younger than Mustafizur is already.
 
Santokie, Mustafizur & Imran Khan junior 2 are all same type bowlers Amir is different with multiple skills.
 
Strike Rate said:
Feel sad for Amir his journey will end here because his BPL team and captain was pathetic and isn't going to qualify for next stage of the BPL. I wish he was picked by a better team
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Exactly. Did not expect Tamims captincy to be so 'predictable' and unimaginative. Amir will bowl 2 overs in power plays and 2 overs at the end. That is it. It is as if Tamim was made to memorize this formula and implement it regardless of match situations.

Well done Amir though. Clearly the best pacer in BPL.
 
Dios said:
Mustafizur has played two matches less than Amir. I'm sure he will end up with more than 11 wickets after playing eight matches. Chittagong wicket suited Amir with its pace and bounce while Mustafizur was better in Mirpur. Amir has been the better bowler so far and has been very impressive but we have to remember this is just a domestic T20 tournament and not a high-standard one at that. We have to wait and see how Amir does when he returns to international cricket. It is highly unlike he'll be able to match what Mustafizur has done in international cricket in his debut year.
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You are right.

Amir already had his debut year.

And won a world cup...
 
Strike Rate said:
I wonder why Cooper never played for West Indies in T20s? he always perform in t20 leagues and deserve a call
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Same here, he has been excellent in all types of leagues, good with bat good with ball, plus his yorkers skill. Don't know why he can't play for WI.
 
Junaids said:
Seriously?

Mustafizur Rahman has taken 4 Test wickets in his entire life.

Mohammad Amir took 51 Test wickets in his debut year - and he was 2 years younger than Mustafizur is already.
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Why are you even bringing up Tests? Mustafizur has only bowled 16 overs in Test cricket against one of the top sides on dead wickets and taken 4 wickets.

Why not talk about ODIs where they both have played a little bit. Mustafizur in 9 matches has more wickets than Amir does in 15 matches. And I said it's unlikely Amir can come back and do what Mustafizur has done. In fact not only Amir no one in the world has done what Mustafizur has at the start of his career. Mustafizur has the most number of wickets after playing nine matches.
 
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