"My aim is to become Pakistan team's main spinner": Abrar Ahmed

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Abrar Ahmed speaking during a press conference:


When asked about why he is not getting a chance in the team and if he is injured:

“I am not injured and was with the team during the World Cup. The decision on whether I play or not is made by the team management. My job is to improve my bowling and workout on a daily basis, which are things in my hands. The rest is up to the captain and management.”

When asked about the shortage of spinners in Pakistan and the pitch for 1st test against Bangladesh:

"We have quite a few spinners who are getting ready. Another thing is that even if the pitch is green, it doesn't matter to me because I have played five or six matches of the Quaid-e-Azam trophy tournament here. Even on green pitches here, I became the top bowler of the tournament. My job is to bowl on my line and length regardless of the pitch conditions."

When asked about his grooming in the presence of Imad Wasim and Shadab Khan:

"If you watch matches while sitting in the dugout, you learn a lot. Look at Imad Wasim, he has played a lot of T20 cricket, and you can learn a lot from him. I also learned from Shadab Khan and Mohammad Nawaz. The effort is to learn something whenever I am not playing the game, rather than wasting my time. So, I learned a lot."

When asked about his chances to play in the upcoming Champions Trophy and some new variations in his bowling:

"My aim is to become the team's main spinner. As for the ICC Champions Trophy, the team management will decide. My job, as I've said before, is to work hard, and that's what I'm doing. Yes, in terms of delivery, I've tried to do something a bit different. Let’s see, the workout is going on, maybe I can do something in the coming time."

When asked about team training:

“The training is going very well, and if we talk about the team, our team is very good, we just need your support. Our team is very good”
 
He technically already is and shpuld be, Shadab is a useless.

I've already told people this numerous times

Rizwan, Shadab, Chacha are all useless.

Rizwan is a medicore batsmen who takes up space and ruins careers and his fans as well as rizwan hide behind the whole " He's a wicket keeper and an allrounder excuse to justify his nonsense selection".

Shadab is another useless player who is hiding behind the " I am a no 5 batter clause" to keep abrar out when in actuality he's a crapola spinner who can blindly slog.

Chacha is another useless player who is hiding behind the "I am an allrounder and finisher" because he's a no 11 against wrist spin.

Babar is not a useless in the sense that he is a decent batter, but he and ramiz raja market him as if he's the 2nd coming of Bradman when in actuality he's a medicore t20 and test player. He is a good odi batsmen when he's in form though, I will 100% agree on his odi exploits.
 
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Rizwan is a medicore batsmen who takes up space and ruins careers and his fans as well as rizwan hide behind the whole " He's a wicket keeper and an allrounder excuse to justify his nonsense selection".
Bringing rizwan in a thread that is about a spinner. How are they related????
 
He mentioned Shahdab and Babar too. Why do you have an issue with him mentioning Rizwan only?
Shadab was mentioned by abrar and he is a spinner so it was really fine but how do rizwan or babar or Iftikhar can kill the place of Abrar???
 
Shadab was mentioned by abrar and he is a spinner so it was really fine but how do rizwan or babar or Iftikhar can kill the place of Abrar???
Good question.

1. Babar has been the captain of 2 ICC tournaments where Abrar was carried and didn’t play a single game. So, that is a pretty easy one isnt it?

The Iftikhar and Rizwan connection to his ousting is a bit more complicated. When Rizwan was away and Iftikhar was captaining KPK, we have seen how he has tried to screw the careers of proper spinners like Sajid Khan who couldn’t get a game as Iftikhar fancied himself as the main spinner of the side!

Can you explain to me how Usman Tariq never played a game for KPK 1s (where Rizwan was captain)???
 
Good question.

1. Babar has been the captain of 2 ICC tournaments where Abrar was carried and didn’t play a single game. So, that is a pretty easy one isnt it?

The Iftikhar and Rizwan connection to his ousting is a bit more complicated. When Rizwan was away and Iftikhar was captaining KPK, we have seen how he has tried to screw the careers of proper spinners like Sajid Khan who couldn’t get a game as Iftikhar fancied himself as the main spinner of the side!

Can you explain to me how Usman Tariq never played a game for KPK 1s (where Rizwan was captain)???
How is this rizwan thing related to Abrar not getting a chance in world cup???
 
How is this rizwan thing related to Abrar not getting a chance in world cup???
I’m not making any accusations

But these traits on the outset are questionable. Then to have a large amount of influence within the side….

You draw your own conclusions
 
a career that has been destroyed by Babar
 
Rizwan wasn’t picking Usman Tariq cod KPK 1s because he couldn’t pick his ball as a keeper? Or was he protecting his mates Iftikhar and Asif Afridi? Ask yourselves these questions!
 
Abrar was sidelined for Shadab. Simple known fact. Babar made a mess of it. Abrar should be playing all three formats ahead of all other spinners.
 
Whats more disturbing is that Shadab is still in contention.
I hope so not but if it is true, then get ready for another worst performance.

But it is good to see that Shadab is not in this series at least.
 
Bringing rizwan in a thread that is about a spinner. How are they related????
Shadab is a useless for keeping Abrar out.

Babar is the captain making the decison to keep abrar out.

Now guess who's the 2nd in command also endorsing these decisons. I'll give you a hint aka " My injuries are Sometimes serious, Sometimes acting"
 
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Shadab was mentioned by abrar and he is a spinner so it was really fine but how do rizwan or babar or Iftikhar can kill the place of Abrar???
I'll explain as best as I can.

1) Both shadab and Chacha hide behind the allrounder clause to keep people out. We have seen both babar and Misbah go out of their way to protect these 2. Babar protecting shadab and Chacha and Misbah only protecting Chacha.

Chacha mostly keeps players like salman Ali Agha out who is pretty much a proper test class batter and actually bats at a strike rate of 96 in odi and not taking an eternity to get off the mark like Chacha, However chacha does hide behind the allrounder clause

And babar 100% uses that clause to with both chacha and shadab to keep abrar out.

2) During Misbah's coaching stint, He actually batted chacha at 5, but the issue was chacha was useless because he's a no 11 against wrist spin, Hence chacha was made to bat at 7. Infact during the Australia series, Misbah would deliberately send Chacha after Zampa completed his spell so that chacha could perform and get his fraud 50.

Babar has done the same, Sometimes making chacha bat even below hasan ali just because the wrist spinner was on.

3) Shadab is similar, He's a crapola Legspin bowler however in order to keep abrar out, Once again babar hid behind the allrounder clause making shadab bat at 5 even though it's clear as day shadab is a tail enders slogger, Even hasan ali has hit 10 ball 25's lol.

Similarly Babar didn't make shadab bowl for 2 games because of the usa spanking, and when he did, he made shadab bowl to a no 10 Ireland batter who still spanked shadab.

Babar has gone out of his way to make these 2 work in either bowling and batting and has gone out of his way to set up others to fail.

For example, hes kept abrar out, He made sure to have imad wasim bowl difficult overs and he made sure to bat imad wasim lower then shadab and chacha even though no 5 eas imad's psl position, Batting imad at 7 is basically where fans will scream and crucify imad, because no 7 is the make and break role, hence why NZ game of not hitting g sodhi for a 6 or the India gane is blamed entirely on imad.

4) Now finally when it comes to Rizzu, I agree it was mostly a cheap shot from my side, however if you actually read my overall argument in my post, I didn't directly claim rizwan is the reason why abrar is kept out, I only said that for chacha and Shadab.

I called Rizwan a fraud who keeps people out and that part is 100% true for agha, Fakhar and saud.
 
Whats more disturbing is that Shadab is still in contention.
And Chacha and Rizwan as an opener and no 4, and Irfan Khan Niazi and Shan and Janhdad Khan and Misbah and Waqar who have made more comebacks in the history of cricket then Australia in world cups.

^^ All these bozos still in contention
 
And Chacha and Rizwan as an opener and no 4, and Irfan Khan Niazi and Shan and Janhdad Khan and Misbah and Waqar who have made more comebacks in the history of cricket then Australia in world cups.

^^ All these bozos still in contention
He will neglect this

His issue with Babar on Abrar isn’t because it’s best for cricket, his issue is that Babar kept out a Misbah SNGPL handpicked player…and Babar isn’t allowing Misbah’s vision to come to fruition
 
He will neglect this

His issue with Babar on Abrar isn’t because it’s best for cricket, his issue is that Babar kept out a Misbah SNGPL handpicked player…and Babar isn’t allowing Misbah’s vision to come to fruition
I'm aware. He was advocating for Waseem Jnr, Irfan Khan Niazi, Jahndad Khan and Chacha to be in the team.
 
He will neglect this

His issue with Babar on Abrar isn’t because it’s best for cricket, his issue is that Babar kept out a Misbah SNGPL handpicked player…and Babar isn’t allowing Misbah’s vision to come to fruition
Good to know Misbah selects good players in his team.

Did Abrar play for SNGPL?
 
He will neglect this

His issue with Babar on Abrar isn’t because it’s best for cricket, his issue is that Babar kept out a Misbah SNGPL handpicked player…and Babar isn’t allowing Misbah’s vision to come to fruition
Misbah's vision also involves fakhar batting at 4 and 5 which backfired immensely in the cup.

Fakhar's 91 of 46 in a tri series final against an Australian attack which includes stark, Zampa, etc is more then enough to justify his opening position since Babar and rizwan went missing in that game as usual while fakhar took the side home.

Fakhar's job was never to bat through, His job was to be an X factor in crucial moments even if he switched off at times.

His best innings in t20 came at opening, which is why Pakistan got to no 1 rank in the first place.

Pakistan dropped fakhar for his crap performance in warm ups and Nepal, and look what happened? You guys came begging to his feet to save you against NZ.

This is why rohit even burnt out was made captain. It's because even though he failed an entire World Cup, the game against Australia was the one where he kicked off. Australia would have spanked India had they achieved anything lesser then 190, Travis head was fully switched on that day.

The fact that Misbah does not understand this aspect is why Pakistan under him is so crap in whiteball, He values consistency over impact hence his brainfade decisions to retire Umar Akmal and Shahid Afridi over Imran farhat and Unar Amin who were consistent but impactless in List A at that point in time.
 
Is Jahandad Khan, Irfan Khan Niazi and Waseem Jnr in SNGPL Team?
Nope, but nice try.

Waseem Jnr was advocated to be in 2023 squad on that crapola talk show by Misbah.

Irfan Khan Niazi and Jahandad Khan have been termed as natural successors to Chacha by your hero.

I have followed Misbah and know what he speaks.
 
Not really. It hasn't really started yet. He's pretty young still.
You can get destroyed in any aspect on any stage in your lifespan lol.

Abrar bowling later on and becoming pakistan's ace spinner will never take this fact away that early on in his career he was made to sit out of 2 world cups solely due to bobby.

First in 2023 where Babar was told to take abrar and he said no and reserve spot was given, 2nd in 2024 where abrar was a passenger.
 
Nope, but nice try.

Waseem Jnr was advocated to be in 2023 squad on that crapola talk show by Misbah.

Irfan Khan Niazi and Jahandad Khan have been termed as natural successors to Chacha by your hero.

I have followed Misbah and know what he speaks.
so like always you are making assumptions?
 
Abrar needs to keep fit, be injury free and in good form as he has potentially 9 tests to play this season as the current No 1 test spinner in the side.

Usman tariq , Mehran mumtaz,Faisal akram and Arafat minhas are the up and coming spinners on the circuit that will all be looking for a breakthrough this season.

They all need to improve their batting if they want to establish a permanent spot in the side.
 
Abrar needs to keep fit, be injury free and in good form as he has potentially 9 tests to play this season as the current No 1 test spinner in the side.

Usman tariq , Mehran mumtaz,Faisal akram and Arafat minhas are the up and coming spinners on the circuit that will all be looking for a breakthrough this season.

They all need to improve their batting if they want to establish a permanent spot in the side.
No they don't, Theirs a thing known as specialist spinners. Not everyone needs to be an allrounder.
 
Jason Gillespie, the coach of Pakistan’s Test team, has clarified the rationale behind selecting only one specialist spinner, Abrar Ahmed, for the upcoming two-match Test series against Bangladesh, which begins on August 21 in Rawalpindi, he said:

“You can look into whatever you want. But to start, I think we’ve got two special spinners. Salman Ali Agha is good enough to be classified as a specialist spinner. From what I've seen, he has a lot of potential with his off-spin. Abrar (Ahmed), obviously, is a fine young bowler in the early stages of his career,”

“So, I think we've covered a lot of bases. We have a lot of seam bowling options and spin bowling options. Our batting is varied as well. I believe we have all bases covered, and it’s a very exciting time for the Pakistan Test side,”
 
Abrar needs to keep fit, be injury free and in good form as he has potentially 9 tests to play this season as the current No 1 test spinner in the side.

Usman tariq , Mehran mumtaz,Faisal akram and Arafat minhas are the up and coming spinners on the circuit that will all be looking for a breakthrough this season.

They all need to improve their batting if they want to establish a permanent spot in the side.
Arafat Minhas is more of Imad Wasim type bowler/batter
 
Good to know Misbah selects good players in his team.

Did Abrar play for SNGPL?
How has he not yet? Misbah out and about giving preferential treatment to KPK players again?
 
What assumption? Want me to link you all the podcasts of misbah claiming this?

I have all clips lol.
Again, you go around talking without providing proof.

So again plz provide proof of these guys being fron sngpl.
 
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Again, you go around talking without providing proof.

So again plz provide proof of these guys being fron sngpl.
Again you miss the total context of everything. Whole argument was you can't speak for yourself unless the guise of Misbah is under play
 
Arafat Minhas is more of Imad Wasim type bowler/batter
Yea Minhas is a decent bat and all rounder but in general the rest of the spinners I mentioned need to be decent bats that can contribute as per the requirements of the modern game.

Batting deep in tight games especially is a massive advantage that we must focus on like England.
 
Again you miss the total context of everything. Whole argument was you can't speak for yourself unless the guise of Misbah is under play
Again abrar ahmed has nothing to do with misbah.
 
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Again abrar ahmed has nothing to do with misbah.
Yes he 100% does.

Abrar Ahmed should be Pakistan's ace spinner over shadab I 100% agree.

However Misbah was the one who suggested it in 2023 for not just abrar but wasim and multiple others.

Your comments pertaining to abrar support came after that podcast.

Before that I had a discussion about abrar with you on why I think he should be included and you were dismissive. You claimed he was good but will get thrashed because he's slow and I told you that's wrong because bowling slower is why someone like kuldeep is so succesful.

The ball spins too much and batters don't even have the luxury of nudging and playing it cheekly due to lack of pace, Meaning they have to rely on brute force and timing which is difficult because the ball is spinning.

All great spinners except for murli(who has chucking allegations) use to bowl slow such as Warne. Only time warme bowled with pace was when he utilised the flipper.
 
Yes he 100% does.

Abrar Ahmed should be Pakistan's ace spinner over shadab I 100% agree.

However Misbah was the one who suggested it in 2023 for not just abrar but wasim and multiple others.

Your comments pertaining to abrar support came after that podcast.

Before that I had a discussion about abrar with you on why I think he should be included and you were dismissive. You claimed he was good but will get thrashed because he's slow and I told you that's wrong because bowling slower is why someone like kuldeep is so succesful.

The ball spins too much and batters don't even have the luxury of nudging and playing it cheekly due to lack of pace, Meaning they have to rely on brute force and timing which is difficult because the ball is spinning.

All great spinners except for murli(who has chucking allegations) use to bowl slow such as Warne. Only time warme bowled with pace was when he utilised the flipper.
I have been supporting Abrar ever since he made his debut where he took a 5ver

First it was the sngpl thing, but when you couldnt prove that you bought in this.
 
Shadab is a useless for keeping Abrar out.

Babar is the captain making the decison to keep abrar out.

Now guess who's the 2nd in command also endorsing these decisons. I'll give you a hint aka " My injuries are Sometimes serious, Sometimes acting"

One of the greatest quotes in the history of cricket LOL
 
I have been supporting Abrar ever since he made his debut where he took a 5ver

First it was the sngpl thing, but when you couldnt prove that you bought in this.
Answer this question,

Why is every single one of your support group tied to Misbah?

Chacha: Misbah's finisher(coaching and selector stint)
Abrar: Misbah's spinner(Podcast)
Rizwan: Misbah's t20 opener
Wasim jnr: Misbah's favourite middle over bowler
 
This session Abrar will be exposed by opposition teams .he is not that good people are thinking .
 
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This session Abrar will be exposed by opposition teams .he is not that good people are thinking .
I'm sure he'll find a way to fluke it.

Jokes aside, no one thinks he's a revelation, however he's a proper spinner and it's criminal that nawaz and Shadab who are in all honesty tail enders pretending to be batters are given a go ahead over him
 
I'm sure he'll find a way to fluke it.

Jokes aside, no one thinks he's a revelation, however he's a proper spinner and it's criminal that nawaz and Shadab who are in all honesty tail enders pretending to be batters are given a go ahead over him
People (including you). Were thinking same about usama mir in 2023 World cup and when he got chance we know what was happened

Abrar is a average bowler and in coming months he will be exposed very badly
 
People (including you). Were thinking same about usama mir in 2023 World cup and when he got chance we know what was happened

Abrar is a average bowler and in coming months he will be exposed very badly
How much have you seen Abrar play? Because if you have not watched him bowl then I don't think you can make this assertion
 
So much potential, so much ability. And he never even gets a chance to play. While guys like Shadab, Nawaz, Usama Mir do.
 
People (including you). Were thinking same about usama mir in 2023 World cup and when he got chance we know what was happened

Abrar is a average bowler and in coming months he will be exposed very badly
Wait when did I say anything about Usama mir? You either don't follow me? Or just like your definition of the word fluke is wrong, your definition of reality is also incorrect
 
His aim was to be the main spinner and now he has been released from the squad for the 1st test against Bangladesh.

That is not a good sign for him to be a main spinner. How can he become a main spinner when he is not playing.
 
I'm very angry about dropping Abrar Ahmed from the squad. He has shown great promise and deserves more chances to play. Letting him go is a big mistake.
 
There has been some serious injustice towards Abrar. He has so much potential but keeps getting dropped. Pakistan can't complain about not producing a frontline spinner when the said spinner is never given a platform to play.

The only hope is that Gillespie knows what he is doing.
 
There has been some serious injustice towards Abrar. He has so much potential but keeps getting dropped. Pakistan can't complain about not producing a frontline spinner when the said spinner is never given a platform to play.

The only hope is that Gillespie knows what he is doing.

Dropped for Shadab, Nawaz and Usama Mir
 
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Well, looks like the powers to be have other plans and won't let him become Pakistan's main spinner. Brainless decisions as usual, standard practice continues.
 
The pitch was green, lets drop your only specialist spinner who is still the best one out there. If Shadab and Sajid Khan or Nouman khan can play on these roads, why not Abrar as well? Afterall, he is a mystery spinner and has done pretty well on these roads. I'm not sure what Gillespie is thinking here.
 
The pitch was green, lets drop your only specialist spinner who is still the best one out there. If Shadab and Sajid Khan or Nouman khan can play on these roads, why not Abrar as well? Afterall, he is a mystery spinner and has done pretty well on these roads. I'm not sure what Gillespie is thinking here.
Looks like pure aussie mindset with gillespie hopefully gillespie know what he is doing here i am guessing pindi will be a green pitch supporting fast bowlers.
 
Looks like pure aussie mindset with gillespie hopefully gillespie know what he is doing here i am guessing pindi will be a green pitch supporting fast bowlers.
Abrar did well in Pakistan. 4 matches and 28 wickets. What else do PCB need from him?
 
Abrar Ahmed fails to make it to the Playing Xi of Pakistan against Bangladesh in the 1st Test starting from August 21.
 
Abrar did well in Pakistan. 4 matches and 28 wickets. What else do PCB need from him?
Rawalpindi track doesn’t offer anything for spin and we know Abrar is almost useless with the bat and in the field so I think that’s the reason why they dropped him which seems fair enough in my opinion.
 
Rawalpindi track doesn’t offer anything for spin and we know Abrar is almost useless with the bat and in the field so I think that’s the reason why they dropped him which seems fair enough in my opinion.
Funny thing is, Abrar can actually bat better then shadab in test. Kid can slog a few.
 
Rawalpindi track doesn’t offer anything for spin and we know Abrar is almost useless with the bat and in the field so I think that’s the reason why they dropped him which seems fair enough in my opinion.
He is still your main spinner in the squad. Abrar won't be tested until he plays on difficult tracks but I think jason gillespie had a plan in mind from the start and he executed it so fair enough.
 
Kamran Akmal speaking during an interview with a local media outlet

"With Jason Gillespie [new head coach of Pakistan's Test team], we are talking about the Australian mindset. But can Australia play without Nathan Lyon? Will India play without Ashwin or Ravindra Jadeja? No, they won't. You have Abrar, but you have shut down his confidence so much,"

"Due to personal likes and dislikes, that boy [Abrar Ahmed] has been ruined. His fitness and off-the-field issues were highlighted, and because of that, you've spoiled that boy and harmed Pakistan,"
 
Abrar is playing for Pakistan Shaheens against Bangladesh A in Islamabad and TBH he is not doing that great.

took 1 wicket so far for 62 runs. WHat is wrong with the main spinner??
 
Kamran Akmal speaking during an interview with a local media outlet

"With Jason Gillespie [new head coach of Pakistan's Test team], we are talking about the Australian mindset. But can Australia play without Nathan Lyon? Will India play without Ashwin or Ravindra Jadeja? No, they won't. You have Abrar, but you have shut down his confidence so much,"

"Due to personal likes and dislikes, that boy [Abrar Ahmed] has been ruined. His fitness and off-the-field issues were highlighted, and because of that, you've spoiled that boy and harmed Pakistan,"
What off-field issues is he referring to?
 
Former Pakistan cricketer Urooj Mumtaz during commentary of 1st Test between Pakistan and Bangladesh at Rawalpindi:

"I think Abrar has the warmest backside in Pakistan; he's been warming benches around the world."
 
Abrar should play every single Test. Not sure why he is not selected.

No matter what the pitch is, you need at least one proper spinner.
 
Abrar should play every single Test. Not sure why he is not selected.

No matter what the pitch is, you need at least one proper spinner.
true

dont know why they have added Muhammad Ali in place of him.. simply a waste of resource.
 
Pak could suffer without Abrar it seems.
 
Abrar took 4 wickets for Shaheens against Bangladesh A side during the second four-day game.

Has Pakistan missed the trick???
 
Meanwhile the 4 wickets Abrar took with the Shaheens.

Hard to think Abrar would not have taken wickets on the Rawalpindi track.

 
Even if the pitch was expected to support pacers, Pakistan should have given game time to Abrar Ahmed. Having a specialist spinner in the team is one thing, but not utilizing him for extended spells in all formats is demoralizing, especially when there's no competition
 
Even if the pitch was expected to support pacers, Pakistan should have given game time to Abrar Ahmed. Having a specialist spinner in the team is one thing, but not utilizing him for extended spells in all formats is demoralizing, especially when there's no competition
Won't happen until pakistan is absolutely forced to.

Remember they did this with sarfraz back in 2015 as well, have done so with multiple other players
 
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