My gay daughter and her partner

There is more to it than that. May I first ask what religious denomination do you belong to? I ask because the answer has a lot to do with it.

Abrahamic faiths teach you to be kind to a fellow man. They teach you that men have rights and you need to fulfill them. So while most of the dirty south in the US which happened to be extremely conservative eventually were forced to reject racism and slavery (love your fellow man), this topic is still justified basic on the extreme religiosity.

Same with Islam. No arab has superiority over an ajmi (non-arab) or vice verca, except for "takwa". But sodomy is a sin. Quran actually does not have a punishment listed for it but Bible clearly states its death.

So we are comparing two different things altogether here but you have to understand the POV of most whites (christians) and Muslims.

if you happen to be one of other faiths, that are silent on homosexuality, of course, this may sound odd or too prejudiced to you. Hinduism, ancient greek and roman mythologies, etc.... as far as I know, do not have issues with it. Which is why same sex relations were fairly common in ancient greece and rome and not considered taboo.

With respect I do not see the relevance of your response to my post. I am trying to draw an analogy between the brown homophobes (in this instance) of UK society now compared to the white racists of the 70s and 80s in the UK.
 
I agree with you. I believe most of the people who oppose them, even here, are those who actually think the gay agenda is being forced on them and their children through education and overexposure in media, etc. I can somewhat see that point, although there are some outright falsehoods in that claim as well.

For one, i do not think elementary school children should be confused by being taught about the different genders and sexual orientations. i think they should be allowed to identify themselves organically rather than be continuously told "if you are dressed as a boy, but you think you like being a girl, its ok".

Once they get to middle school and they are in the pre-teen range, its acceptable to tell them about this stuff then.

Could be . Maybe someone with behavioral science background can shed light on it. But I agree with the last para
 
With respect I do not see the relevance of your response to my post. I am trying to draw an analogy between the brown homophobes (in this instance) of UK society now compared to the white racists of the 70s and 80s in the UK.

Let me take another stab at this:

Racism has no justification in any modern day value set (cultural, religious, national, etc), hence it is officially denounced and considered evil the world over mostly.

HOMOSEXUALITY is considered a sin in Abrahamic faiths and therefore it is difficult for it and people associated with it to remove the taboo it comes with.

Hence my statement on the two being entirely different issues in terms of expected outcomes.
 
Let me take another stab at this:

Racism has no justification in any modern day value set (cultural, religious, national, etc), hence it is officially denounced and considered evil the world over mostly.

HOMOSEXUALITY is considered a sin in Abrahamic faiths and therefore it is difficult for it and people associated with it to remove the taboo it comes with.

Hence my statement on the two being entirely different issues in terms of expected outcomes.

Okay I see it now. Well at one stage racism was okay too, slavery was backed by the bible so it hasn't been considered evil until fairly recently. Let's hope acceptance of homosexuality can overcome scripture too.
 
Okay I see it now. Well at one stage racism was okay too, slavery was backed by the bible so it hasn't been considered evil until fairly recently. Let's hope acceptance of homosexuality can overcome scripture too.

I guess I learnt something today. I looked it up and I did not know that slavery was actually considered kosher in christianity and bible.

So I am guessing my logic only applies to muslims. The west may come to terms with gays eventually, but i do not think Muslims ever will.
 
I guess I learnt something today. I looked it up and I did not know that slavery was actually considered kosher in christianity and bible.

So I am guessing my logic only applies to muslims. The west may come to terms with gays eventually, but i do not think Muslims ever will.

What about Muslims living in societies where alcohol and pork are part of their cuisine and culture? Does any logic interfere with that?

If they can overcome that, then accepting people for what they are should not a big deal.
 
What about Muslims living in societies where alcohol and pork are part of their cuisine and culture? Does any logic interfere with that?

If they can overcome that, then accepting people for what they are should not a big deal.

The big issue, once again, is over exposure of children to this stuff which can potentially confuse them.


I cannot speak about others, but I am ok with you being you (consuming haram stuff and being gay). I have no business telling you otherwise.
 
The big issue, once again, is over exposure of children to this stuff which can potentially confuse them.


I cannot speak about others, but I am ok with you being you (consuming haram stuff and being gay). I have no business telling you otherwise.

Depends on what age. If kids are given sensitivity training after a certain age that should be fine. In the USA at a very early age may be not the whole gay-gender etc stuff but they do teach kids about what is inappropriate and appropriate to speak up against sexual abuse etc. Thats needed in our part of the world but it will never happen even though most such things happen in our societies and is a bigger problem . There is no religion factor here.

As far as your 2nd point goes, your are not doing any favor or saying something out of the world ; that’s how most normal sane and rational people are supposed to think.
 
I guess that is what the white racists of the 70s and 80s thought about dark immigrants. Why did the whole society need to change? Which was overwhelmingly white to accomodate the quirky and their funny food, funny smells and funny ways. They probably didn't want their kids to be taught about multiculturalism, have stories with dark people in them with funny names just because some do-gooders felt emboldened.

They didn't need to change, immigrants were always in a position not to take up residence in the UK if they felt the threat of violence or racism was too much to stomach. Dark skinned people didn't force society to change, this just came naturally with more inter-mingling among the communities.
 
They didn't need to change, immigrants were always in a position not to take up residence in the UK if they felt the threat of violence or racism was too much to stomach. Dark skinned people didn't force society to change, this just came naturally with more inter-mingling among the communities.

It was mix. Laws were put in place so they did not discriminate against immigrants. For example housing, employment and so on, Also yes once you start interacting with the " other" you realize they are just like you and your stance changes over time. Same applies to gays
 
No one is born gay. There is no gay gene, no DNA sequence, and no genetic marker that even hints at the notion.

Nurture is the reason why anyone is gay and thus the father in the OP only has himself to blame.

Unfettered Freedom, lack of discipline, lack of morals - has a price.

That is the big question . In Western countries to be a gay person is acceptable , particularly over last 2-3 decades, so gays/lesbians make a small but significant percentage of the of the population . In countries like Pakistan one cannot be openly a gay person , hence you won't see many gay/lesbian people. The question is whether in Pakistan there are very few gays or they are just not coming out due to fear. How much the culture plays part in making a person gay, or they are born with this "abnormality".
 
That is the big question . In Western countries to be a gay person is acceptable , particularly over last 2-3 decades, so gays/lesbians make a small but significant percentage of the of the population . In countries like Pakistan one cannot be openly a gay person , hence you won't see many gay/lesbian people. The question is whether in Pakistan there are very few gays or they are just not coming out due to fear. How much the culture plays part in making a person gay, or they are born with this "abnormality".

Those that use “there is no gay gene” argument, my question to them: “is there a straight gene?”
 
I am just giving my perspective here and not to offend anyone

Even for me, if my kids or my cousins turn out as gays, would be difficult to accept initially as we are brought up in a conservative system (both as a Hindu religion and interms of societal values)

And if we have to deal with it, we have to ask ourselves one question - which is more important? Our kin or our faith? Our values or the ones followed by the society?

It depends on how one was brought up and how important, faith is to a person.

I cannot speak for Muslims or even other Hindu’s but for me, I cannot put my religion above my family. Period!

We either try to find our way of acceptance through out faith, or try to at-least increase the religious tolerance for my family if the conflict remains. As I don't perceive, being gay is a SIN!

Through my childhood, I have been a devotional person though priorities may have changed as I grew up. I cannot speak for everyone but for me, I didn't have a doctrine to follow my religion, but the set of rules are limited on during the time of rituals / holy practices.

I dont know if my GOD will blame me for accepting gay kin, but my devotion for my GOD will not waver. If it is truly a SIN, then I will accept the punishment for it (on behalf of my kids too) happily and will reconcile with my GOD, in this or the afterlife. I believe, even my parents would have the same view as me.
 
It was mix. Laws were put in place so they did not discriminate against immigrants. For example housing, employment and so on, Also yes once you start interacting with the " other" you realize they are just like you and your stance changes over time. Same applies to gays

Race and sexual preferences are not the same thing, better to discuss them on their own merits if we want an honest discourse. For example a racially different couple can have sexual relations and produce a child. A gay couple can't. While I can understand the desire to mix up the two in order to present an opinion, it's not really accurate, neither does it reflect reality.
 
Those that use “there is no gay gene” argument, my question to them: “is there a straight gene?”

Those that think their orientation is a choice are basically admitting to being bi. Bi people essentially do have a choice. They can choose either. And bi people whose religion/culture/morals only allows hetero must not partake in homo.
 
I am just giving my perspective here and not to offend anyone

Even for me, if my kids or my cousins turn out as gays, would be difficult to accept initially as we are brought up in a conservative system (both as a Hindu religion and interms of societal values)

And if we have to deal with it, we have to ask ourselves one question - which is more important? Our kin or our faith? Our values or the ones followed by the society?

It depends on how one was brought up and how important, faith is to a person.

I cannot speak for Muslims or even other Hindu’s but for me, I cannot put my religion above my family. Period!

We either try to find our way of acceptance through out faith, or try to at-least increase the religious tolerance for my family if the conflict remains. As I don't perceive, being gay is a SIN!

Through my childhood, I have been a devotional person though priorities may have changed as I grew up. I cannot speak for everyone but for me, I didn't have a doctrine to follow my religion, but the set of rules are limited on during the time of rituals / holy practices.

I dont know if my GOD will blame me for accepting gay kin, but my devotion for my GOD will not waver. If it is truly a SIN, then I will accept the punishment for it (on behalf of my kids too) happily and will reconcile with my GOD, in this or the afterlife. I believe, even my parents would have the same view as me.

Hi

Interesting post.

I dont think you have to being a Hindu, as Ive been told on here , being Gay is no issue in Hinduism.

However if I'm wrong and it indeed is a sin, surely you'd put the Creator above your children? Im not suggesting to disown them or hate on them but you'd make it clear its wrong/sin and you will not have anything to do with such a lifestyle.
 
That isn't the issue, the issue is changing the whole society, which will be overwhelmingly heterosexual, to accommodate the quirky minority. What gay people do behind closed doors is of no concern to me, but I don't want my kids being taught Johnny can marry Steve and have children just because a vocal pressure group feels emboldened to reach for the moon.

Are you saying gay couples shouldn't appear in any public platform like fashion magazines, TV programs, books, cinema, talk shows, social functions ?
 
Are you saying gay couples shouldn't appear in any public platform like fashion magazines, TV programs, books, cinema, talk shows, social functions ?

No, I'm saying I don't want my kids being taught Johnny can marry Steve. You even bolded it so it's not exactly ambiguous. I think gay people have produced some pretty great stuff for television, music and such, that's why I wouldn't say what you are insinuating.
 
No, I'm saying I don't want my kids being taught Johnny can marry Steve. You even bolded it so it's not exactly ambiguous. I think gay people have produced some pretty great stuff for television, music and such, that's why I wouldn't say what you are insinuating.

Is your kid being taught that? Serious question. Country/grade/class?

I see conflicting reports on the subject. Some schools tend to push the agenda too far and too early and some do it moderately as in keeping it informational only.
 
Is your kid being taught that? Serious question. Country/grade/class?

I see conflicting reports on the subject. Some schools tend to push the agenda too far and too early and some do it moderately as in keeping it informational only.

It's more the way things are headed rather than what is or isn't being taught now, that's why I said "I wouldn't" rather than "I don't". It's just logic that as gay marriage is legalised, then homosexuals would want equal representation in how they are depicted in school books or anywhere else for that matter. We already see it on tv shows which are aimed at adults, I guess there will come a time when folk will say why shouldn't kids be seeing the same stuff in a kid friendly atmosphere.
 
It's more the way things are headed rather than what is or isn't being taught now, that's why I said "I wouldn't" rather than "I don't". It's just logic that as gay marriage is legalised, then homosexuals would want equal representation in how they are depicted in school books or anywhere else for that matter. We already see it on tv shows which are aimed at adults, I guess there will come a time when folk will say why shouldn't kids be seeing the same stuff in a kid friendly atmosphere.

So your claim is more of a fear than a fact.
 
So your claim is more of a fear than a fact.

Fear is the wrong word, I would fear being hit by a car if I walked out into the middle of the road, or I would fear walking at night in the jungle if I was in India in case there are tigers around. I'm not going to fear my kids being taught homesexuality is a desirable lifestyle, I would more likely be concerned and take it up with school authorities. Failing that I would teach my own kids to ignore the nonsense and leave it to those who wish to embrace it. This is actually what I have done in fact, there isn't any need for conflict if you can express your ideas logically.
 
Fear is the wrong word, I would fear being hit by a car if I walked out into the middle of the road, or I would fear walking at night in the jungle if I was in India in case there are tigers around. I'm not going to fear my kids being taught homesexuality is a desirable lifestyle, I would more likely be concerned and take it up with school authorities. Failing that I would teach my own kids to ignore the nonsense and leave it to those who wish to embrace it. This is actually what I have done in fact, there isn't any need for conflict if you can express your ideas logically.

Do you know for a fact that your children are or will be taught that homosexuality is a "desirable" lifestyle?
 
Fear is the wrong word, I would fear being hit by a car if I walked out into the middle of the road, or I would fear walking at night in the jungle if I was in India in case there are tigers around. I'm not going to fear my kids being taught homesexuality is a desirable lifestyle, I would more likely be concerned and take it up with school authorities. Failing that I would teach my own kids to ignore the nonsense and leave it to those who wish to embrace it. This is actually what I have done in fact, there isn't any need for conflict if you can express your ideas logically.

Do you watch any TV shows these days?

My question to you was about your post with the emboldened part, your "not fear" but "concern" about what your kid is being taught at school.

I am not worried about whats on TV because as a parent, its my responsibility to shield my children from that stuff. In a free society, they are free to say what they want. Part of good parenting is knowing how to manage that.
 
What do the new guidelines on Relationships and Sex Education actually say, and what’s the difference for primary and secondary schools?

For secondary schools the guidance states that:

RSE must be taught in all schools in England
Sexual orientation and gender identity must be explored at a timely point
Same-sex relationships should be included within lessons discussing healthy and stable relationships
Schools should ‘be alive to issues such as everyday sexism, misogyny, homophobia and gender stereotypes’ and take positive action to build a culture where these are not tolerated

For primary schools, the guidance says that:

Relationships Education must be taught in all schools in England
It is recommended that schools teach Sex Education too, although they can choose not to
All schools should teach about different families (which can include LGBTQ+ parents), along with families headed by grandparents, single parents, adoptive parents, and foster parents/carers, among other family structures

https://www.stonewall.org.uk/lgbtq-inclusive-education-everything-you-need-know

There you go Stewie. Some guidance there on what should and should not be taught to kids at school.
 
I believe Trans have hijacked the LGBT rights movement. Gays and Lesbians are for themselves. Trans encroaches into other gender and competes with them in sports and other competitions. A huge injustice to natural born women.
There's trans women who claim to be lesbians, and have relationships with women (not trans women). --- err ... does that not mean that they're just heterosexual men who prefer women? :13:

There's been cases where convicted men who claimed to be trans women being sent to women's prisons. They still had male genitals, and made other female inmates pregnant.

NJ women’s prison inmates pregnant after sex with transgender prisoner

Two inmates serving time in New Jersey’s only state prison for women became pregnant after they had sex with a transgender inmate, according to a report Wednesday.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/14/edna-...s-pregnant-after-sex-with-transgender-inmate/

So not only being convicted of criminalty, but being sent to prisons full of women deprived of intimate relationships with men, for years, even decades!

Similarly, for some women inmates, here comes an inmate claiming to be a woman, but still having his male genitalia, and still interested in being intimate with women.
 
Fear is the wrong word, I would fear being hit by a car if I walked out into the middle of the road, or I would fear walking at night in the jungle if I was in India in case there are tigers around. I'm not going to fear my kids being taught homesexuality is a desirable lifestyle, I would more likely be concerned and take it up with school authorities. Failing that I would teach my own kids to ignore the nonsense and leave it to those who wish to embrace it. This is actually what I have done in fact, there isn't any need for conflict if you can express your ideas logically.

There you go Stewie. Some guidance there on what should and should not be taught to kids at school.

I fail to see how any of that leads to or means "homsexuality is a desirable lifestyle".

i am sorry but i dont see it. At the very most, they are trying to teach children tolerance of this stuff and not teaching them to turn gay.

I mean let us look at it again:

What do the new guidelines on Relationships and Sex Education actually say, and what’s the difference for primary and secondary schools?

For secondary schools the guidance states that:

RSE must be taught in all schools in England
Sexual orientation and gender identity must be explored at a timely point
Same-sex relationships should be included within lessons discussing healthy and stable relationships
Schools should ‘be alive to issues such as everyday sexism, misogyny, homophobia and gender stereotypes’ and take positive action to build a culture where these are not tolerated

For primary schools, the guidance says that:

Relationships Education must be taught in all schools in England
It is recommended that schools teach Sex Education too, although they can choose not to
All schools should teach about different families (which can include LGBTQ+ parents), along with families headed by grandparents, single parents, adoptive parents, and foster parents/carers, among other family structures
 
My question to you was about your post with the emboldened part, your "not fear" but "concern" about what your kid is being taught at school.

I am not worried about whats on TV because as a parent, its my responsibility to shield my children from that stuff. In a free society, they are free to say what they want. Part of good parenting is knowing how to manage that.

If you are required to "shield" i.e protect your children then surely it is something you are worried about.

I mean why would you shield them from this but not shield them from scooby doo?

Rather than take your approach of shielding and hoping for the best many of us would just like this to stop being pushed on us. No shields required in that case.
 
If you are required to "shield" i.e protect your children then surely it is something you are worried about.

I mean why would you shield them from this but not shield them from scooby doo?

Rather than take your approach of shielding and hoping for the best many of us would just like this to stop being pushed on us. No shields required in that case.

Good luck with that. There is tons of stuff on TV that you do shield your kids from whether you like to admit it or not.

Do you lobby similarly against all of it? Straight sex on TV? Violence? Foul language?

I dont think so. We have dealt with this stuff for years and generations. There is areason why TV and films are rated for their audience so you know if you toddler/pre/teen/teen should be viewing such content.
That is where shielding comes from. Some stuff is just not appropriate for them and you protect them from it but that does not mean you go around starting campaigns to take it off air because it is all protected under freedom of speech and expression.

However, this is tangential to the topic at hand. I was asking how any of the school curriculum is somehow making homosexual lifestyle more desirable?
 
Good luck with that. There is tons of stuff on TV that you do shield your kids from whether you like to admit it or not.

Do you lobby similarly against all of it? Straight sex on TV? Violence? Foul language?

I dont think so. We have dealt with this stuff for years and generations. There is areason why TV and films are rated for their audience so you know if you toddler/pre/teen/teen should be viewing such content.
That is where shielding comes from. Some stuff is just not appropriate for them and you protect them from it but that does not mean you go around starting campaigns to take it off air because it is all protected under freedom of speech and expression.

However, this is tangential to the topic at hand. I was asking how any of the school curriculum is somehow making homosexual lifestyle more desirable?

It's being taught that it's an option at school. That legitimises it and puts it into impressionable young heads. You are ok with it fine, each to their own, but I would rather it wasn't presented as an option to kids at school. I din't think that should be the school's job, if adults want to be homosexuals in their own private space, knock yourselves out. It's not my concern.
 
Good luck with that. There is tons of stuff on TV that you do shield your kids from whether you like to admit it or not.

Do you lobby similarly against all of it? Straight sex on TV? Violence? Foul language?

I dont think so. We have dealt with this stuff for years and generations. There is areason why TV and films are rated for their audience so you know if you toddler/pre/teen/teen should be viewing such content.
That is where shielding comes from. Some stuff is just not appropriate for them and you protect them from it but that does not mean you go around starting campaigns to take it off air because it is all protected under freedom of speech and expression.

However, this is tangential to the topic at hand. I was asking how any of the school curriculum is somehow making homosexual lifestyle more desirable?

Sex and violence require a 15+ rating and are shown after 9pm in the UK.

What is the age rating for showing a homosexual "marriage" on a TV Show?
 
It's being taught that it's an option at school. That legitimises it and puts it into impressionable young heads. You are ok with it fine, each to their own, but I would rather it wasn't presented as an option to kids at school. I din't think that should be the school's job, if adults want to be homosexuals in their own private space, knock yourselves out. It's not my concern.


You have miread or misunderstoof the whole thing or the intention of it. It is not an "option". All the school agenda represents is inclusivity and tolerance. It is not pushing "the gay agenda" as it is referred to by zealots.
It is not being taught to kids that it is more "desirable" as you claimed. Your claim would be true if they were trying to teach your kids that homosexuality is better than heterosexuality. But that is not the case.
 
Sex and violence require a 15+ rating and are shown after 9pm in the UK.

What is the age rating for showing a homosexual "marriage" on a TV Show?

What is offensive about that? If you live in a western society where your rights as a minority are protected, similarly homosexuals rights are protected as well. It is a problem only if it is forced on you or if somehow the message is "homosexuality is desirable or favored over hetersexuality"

Your kids will live in this society and grow up to work with and alongside such people. They need to know this and tolerate it. YOU DONT HAVE TO ACCEPT IT but you can also not deny it exists and you wont see it ever in your lives.

If you live in Pakistan or other conservative societies of the world, of course in that case this is not even an issue.
 
My life mission is to promote inclusivity, says first Muslim woman to lead Pride

n activist, who was the first Muslim woman to lead a Pride parade in Britain, says her mission in life is “to promote the inclusivity of sexuality and gender”.

The PA news agency is interviewing a series of people celebrating Pride Month in June, including Saima Razzaq, 38, from Birmingham.

Ms Razzaq is the director of change and communications at Birmingham Pride, and she uses her platform as part of the LGBT+, South Asian, and Muslim communities to carve out a space within the intersection.

Ms Razzaq, who is a lesbian but also uses the queer umbrella to describe her sexuality, became the first Muslim woman to lead a Pride parade in Britain at Birmingham Pride in 2021.

“Leading Pride was a monumental moment and obviously now I work at Pride as a result of that,” Ms Razzaq told PA.

After taking part in the Birmingham Pride Parade on May 27 this year, Ms Razzaq said she will be talking to and working with the community in the city for the remainder of Pride Month.

“Now, the thing is about getting into conversations within my own community,” she said.

“It’s about organising and working with the everyday communities of Birmingham, and taking them on this journey and working towards, ‘what can we do next?'”

When did you ‘come out’ and how did your family respond?

Ms Razzaq said her mother approached her about her sexuality when she was 29 while they were driving to pick up a takeaway.

“She made me drive and she waited until we were on a dual carriageway and said, ‘do you like women?’

“I was like, ‘oh my god, why now?’,” Ms Razzaq recalled.

“Since that moment, I’ve seen a massive change in my mum. Now, she’s changing her language.”

Ms Razzaq added she looks up to members of her family, and she regards them as her “superheroes”.

“People look up to influences and all these famous people, I don’t, I look up to my aunties and uncle – they’re my superheroes,” she said.

“Even though my aunties and my uncle might not understand my queerness, they’re there.”

She added: “Faith is really important for me, and just because I’m queer, doesn’t mean I’m not Muslim, and they’ve not othered me for that either.

...
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...p&cvid=8a2921de40d34b77ac33ea6682a045d7&ei=12
 
My life mission is to promote inclusivity, says first Muslim woman to lead Pride

n activist, who was the first Muslim woman to lead a Pride parade in Britain, says her mission in life is “to promote the inclusivity of sexuality and gender”.

The PA news agency is interviewing a series of people celebrating Pride Month in June, including Saima Razzaq, 38, from Birmingham.

Ms Razzaq is the director of change and communications at Birmingham Pride, and she uses her platform as part of the LGBT+, South Asian, and Muslim communities to carve out a space within the intersection.

Ms Razzaq, who is a lesbian but also uses the queer umbrella to describe her sexuality, became the first Muslim woman to lead a Pride parade in Britain at Birmingham Pride in 2021.

“Leading Pride was a monumental moment and obviously now I work at Pride as a result of that,” Ms Razzaq told PA.

After taking part in the Birmingham Pride Parade on May 27 this year, Ms Razzaq said she will be talking to and working with the community in the city for the remainder of Pride Month.

“Now, the thing is about getting into conversations within my own community,” she said.

“It’s about organising and working with the everyday communities of Birmingham, and taking them on this journey and working towards, ‘what can we do next?'”

When did you ‘come out’ and how did your family respond?

Ms Razzaq said her mother approached her about her sexuality when she was 29 while they were driving to pick up a takeaway.

“She made me drive and she waited until we were on a dual carriageway and said, ‘do you like women?’

“I was like, ‘oh my god, why now?’,” Ms Razzaq recalled.

“Since that moment, I’ve seen a massive change in my mum. Now, she’s changing her language.”

Ms Razzaq added she looks up to members of her family, and she regards them as her “superheroes”.

“People look up to influences and all these famous people, I don’t, I look up to my aunties and uncle – they’re my superheroes,” she said.

“Even though my aunties and my uncle might not understand my queerness, they’re there.”

She added: “Faith is really important for me, and just because I’m queer, doesn’t mean I’m not Muslim, and they’ve not othered me for that either.

...
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...p&cvid=8a2921de40d34b77ac33ea6682a045d7&ei=12
good for her
 
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