Narendra Modi moves to attract non-Kashmiris with land in Indian occupied Kashmir

[Romali_rotti]

Additional troops spark panic in Jammu & Kashmir

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If BJP government manages to remove article 35A, they will literally rule India for the next 50 years, it will give them a free reign, majority of India is united on this...

 

[Pakistanian]

Additional troops spark panic in Jammu & Kashmir

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If BJP government manages to remove article 35A, they will literally rule India for the next 50 years, it will give them a free reign, majority of India is united on this...

Why does it matter if the whole of india is united against one state, you can't enforce a law on a state unless they've agreed to it or at least that's how federalism is supposed to work.

 

[Pakistanian]

In America if a territory wants to become a state they are given a chance to have a referendum with options of statehood, independence or the status quo - just cause 50 states and the Federal govt may agree to make Puerto Rico a state they can't make it happen unless Puerto Ricans vote to join the union. That's how democracy and federalism works.

 

[slipcatch]

I guess many more innocent Kashmiri will be murdered by occupying Army.

Let’s see how this will play out but as it is evident that majority of Indians are happy to see Kashmiri Muslims to be marginalized and murdered and re-populated with only Hindus.

 

[troodon]

I guess many more innocent Kashmiri will be murdered by occupying Army.

Let’s see how this will play out but as it is evident that majority of Indians are happy to see Kashmiri Muslims to be marginalized and murdered and re-populated with only Hindus.

No one will be murdered. Live and let love.

This should have been done long time ago. Terrorists Misusing the free reign given to them. Now they will think twice.

 

[slipcatch]

No one will be murdered. Live and let love.

This should have been done long time ago. Terrorists Misusing the free reign given to them. Now they will think twice.

According to Indian every Kashmiri is a terrorist. Lol

 

[moghul]

Modi the chief divider.

What a wonderful leader.

Yes, there will be violence, hundreds of people will be killed, but Modi is not afraid of that, he saw 3 thousands people got killed in Gujrat and Indian rewarded him by making him the PM. As long as killed ones are majority muslims, Indians are OK with that.

 

[Chasing_The_Dream]

It seems Modi is borrowing from Netanyahu‘s play book which is no surprise since both India and Israel are two peas in a pod

 

[troodon]

According to Indian every Kashmiri is a terrorist. Lol

Not every Kashmiri. Only the stone pelters and Pakistani lovers who shout anti-india slogans. Of course the guys who get trained in Pakistan to do their missionary activities in Kashmir.

 

[Pakistanian]

Not every Kashmiri. Only the stone pelters and Pakistani lovers who shout anti-india slogans. Of course the guys who get trained in Pakistan to do their missionary activities in Kashmir.

That's what the British said about Indians.

 

[Madplayer]

Not every Kashmiri. Only the stone pelters and Pakistani lovers who shout anti-india slogans.

So, every Kashmiri it is.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why does it matter if the whole of india is united against one state, you can't enforce a law on a state unless they've agreed to it or at least that's how federalism is supposed to work.

Laws are different in different countries.

 

[Pakistanian]

Laws are different in different countries.

The principles of democracy don't change.

 

[Pakistanian]

If federalism and democracy don't matter in India then they should just call themselves an autocracy.

 

[m.shah]

Additional troops spark panic in Jammu & Kashmir

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If BJP government manages to remove article 35A, they will literally rule India for the next 50 years, it will give them a free reign, majority of India is united on this...

o
Do you know there are also other states where article 370 and 35 A is applied. Why don't have problems with that but only with J and K?

 

[Tiger96]

Good just outnumber these Kashmiri Muslims by Non-Muslim populace from outside states . Let's show them whose the boss.

There days of enjoying special status are running out fast.

 

[m.shah]

Not every Kashmiri. Only the stone pelters and Pakistani lovers who shout anti-india slogans. Of course the guys who get trained in Pakistan to do their missionary activities in Kashmir.

Every kashmiri is a pak lover so who are to tell us what we are? Mind your own business

 

[Romali_rotti]

o
Do you know there are also other states where article 370 and 35 A is applied. Why don't have problems with that but only with J and K?

Simple, you Kashmiri's are nothing but trouble, you could have lived peacefully, enjoyed the diabolical article 35A privilages and had the best of all worlds. However you choose violence instead, killing, raping and driving out the Pandits because they were not muslim. All this started with what was done with the Pandits and soon all your privileges such as you have to be a Kashmiri etc to own land in Kashmir may soon come to an end.

This could be the future;

- RIP in trying to bleed India with a 1000 cuts using Kashmiris (Pakistan specific)

- RIP to the stone pelters, I cant wait till a whole lot of Biharis come down to settle in Kashmir, if you thought the Indian army was bad, wait to see what's it store with Biharis, you have no idea whats coming your way .


I have no sympathy for you Kashmiris, all you do is cause trouble and when retaliation comes you cry foul, well bad luck.....

 

[m.shah]

Simple, you Kashmiri's are nothing but trouble, you could have lived peacefully, enjoyed the diabolical article 35A privilages and had the best of all worlds. However you choose violence instead, killing, raping and driving out the Pandits because they were not muslim. All this started with what was done with the Pandits and soon all your privileges such as you have to be a Kashmiri etc to own land in Kashmir may soon come to an end.

This could be the future;

- RIP in trying to bleed India with a 1000 cuts using Kashmiris (Pakistan specific)

- RIP to the stone pelters, I cant wait till a whole lot of Biharis come down to settle in Kashmir, if you thought the Indian army was bad, wait to see what's it store with Biharis, you have no idea whats coming your way .


I have no sympathy for you Kashmiris, all you do is cause trouble and when retaliation comes you cry foul, well bad luck.....

We were living pretty peacefully until your army came here and started killing, raping and blinding us. Do you have any official data how many pandits were killed rapid? It was dirty game played by your filthy politicians and they are getting benefitted from it today also. We don't need the sympathy of third world country whose people proud themselves on lynching, raping own people. Thanks
We have fighted until now and will keep resisting no matter how much atrocities come our way.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The principles of democracy don't change.

They do. Some countries are presidential some are parliamentary. Some are Federal some are Unitary and some are Unionm

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You can't keep Indians out of any country, on reflection it seems to be wishful thinking to imagine you could keep them out of Kashmir.

 

[Romali_rotti]

You can't keep Indians out of any country, on reflection it seems to be wishful thinking to imagine you could keep them out of Kashmir.

Awww how cute, the highly ethical Pakistani with his insights

 

[Kriketer]

This is the only way they can claim the land by sending people from around India. No wonder they are following the footsteps of Israel, capture, kill and settle. Not like Kashmiries would sit calm. It took only one freedom fighter to send their 50 terrorists back to Indian soil. If you want peace then work towards it, this drama of all peace and then you have a million armymen controlling a region and suffocating people won't ever return goods.

If a million armymen couldn't control it for decades then no Bunti Bubblis from other parts of India are going to make a difference. Atleast not in a century or so but Indians haven't left a single part of the world. They are everywhere in thousands and millions lol. So much Bharat Mata love and the first one to hop on a plane to run away from their beloved country. Drama nationalist

 

[Kriketer]

Ofcourse, deny, deny, when you do atrocities, however you Kashmiri muslims cry foul when things go wrong for you... I fully support the Indian government's effort to remove article 35A & 370. Call me names, or whatever hell to vent your frustration, I don't giva damn, cause you mean nothing me...


P.S. Also, you need to have a little bit of shame, for someone who is so anti-India ,why do you go to mainland India to seek education ? stay true to your code of honour, reject everything Indian instead of being so pathetic....

The fake drama of pundits. Did you only have pundits there or general Hindus were there as well lol? Looks like all of Indians pundits were settled in Kashmir by the sound of it.

What about the whole of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc where there likely were Hindus and Pundits before? You want all those regions back as well? I mean going by your logic you certainly should claim the rest of sub-continent back as well.

Partition was done based on who resided in majority where, and Muslims were in majority in the north including most of Kashmir, so stop your drama and lies. You can only occupy it through brutality and forcing one million army on innocent civilians. Democracy is not in entire India, a joke of a democracy when you have to shed blood to occupy a disputed state illegally.

 

[moghul]

Simple, you Kashmiri's are nothing but trouble, you could have lived peacefully, enjoyed the diabolical article 35A privilages and had the best of all worlds. However you choose violence instead, killing, raping and driving out the Pandits because they were not muslim. All this started with what was done with the Pandits and soon all your privileges such as you have to be a Kashmiri etc to own land in Kashmir may soon come to an end.

This could be the future;

- RIP in trying to bleed India with a 1000 cuts using Kashmiris (Pakistan specific)

- RIP to the stone pelters, I cant wait till a whole lot of Biharis come down to settle in Kashmir, if you thought the Indian army was bad, wait to see what's it store with Biharis, you have no idea whats coming your way .


I have no sympathy for you Kashmiris, all you do is cause trouble and when retaliation comes you cry foul, well bad luck.....

You Kashmiris are bad people, how dare you're asking for right of self determination which you were promised by UN, but that was long time ago. What you folks think of yourself, you'r not Quebec, Scott Land, Timor or even South Sudan. Those people were helped by UN and also lucky to be in democratic countries don;t like killing and murdering their own people. Unfortunately you're in Hindu majority country which was ruled by people belong to your religion for ever, until now. Hindus now own their country and they will make sure they will not leave any state in India with Muslim majority. They are being helped by a lots of "beghairat" and " darpoke " non-Kashmiri Mulslim who are scared of their own existence in "world's largest democracy" and don;t raise their voices for you.

 

[Badsha]

Man this thread makes me so thankful for our Quid e Azam. If I was Indian I would literally hide my identity.

 

[slipcatch]

Wonder if RSS and Hindutva Joshila will move to Kashmir, or Indians who have moved out of India? I highly doubt that.

Indisn occupying army has to kill thousands of Kashmiri to have coward RSS members to move to Kashmir but again Radicalized extremists nationalists Hindu PM and his supporters have shown over and over that they don’t mind murdering Muslim and other minorities.

 

[Akki malhotra]

Excellent decision. All indians support this decision. Hopefully modi govt implements this soon.
All indians are equal, and anyone who doesn't get this idea, need to be taught.

 

[Kriketer]

Excellent decision. All indians support this decision. Hopefully modi govt implements this soon.
All indians are equal, and anyone who doesn't get this idea, need to be taught.

Don't know why you folks cry when you get the teaching back from the locals. You are only "forcing" them to be "Indian". They never were and they never will be. Quite a pity when you have to "force" the whole region to accept you, not gonna work.

Your Modi begged Trump to help with Kashmir, so don't think you can do anything on your own, be it forceful or not

 

[Akki malhotra]

Don't know why you folks cry when you get the teaching back from the locals. You are only "forcing" them to be "Indian". They never were and they never will be. Quite a pity when you have to "force" the whole region to accept you, not gonna work.

Your Modi begged Trump to help with Kashmir, so don't think you can do anything on your own, be it forceful or not

Nobody begged Trump. Indin foreign Office already confirmed this. If they dnt accept then they are free to go anywhere. If required we indians will finance their PR abroad. How much peaceful one Nation now can be.
But if they think by having majority they can have Pakistan, by majority they can have Bangladesh , by majority they now can have kashmir and they kerela and then west Bengal and so on and on. Then enough is enough.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Good move by Modi, one of the few good things he's done in his tenure.

 

[slipcatch]

Man this thread makes me so thankful for our Quid e Azam. If I was Indian I would literally hide my identity.

It does, doesn’t it.

Then you hear daily from hindutva and Bhakths that Indian Muslims are doing fine.

Have met many Indian Muslims who says otherwise.

 

[blackanhyellow]

It does, doesn’t it.

Then you hear daily from hindutva and Bhakths that Indian Muslims are doing fine.

Have met many Indian Muslims who says otherwise.

India is insecure with only around 200 million muslims. Imagine close to 600 million muslims if Pakistan (and Bangladesh) had not split off.

The country would be a civil war waiting around every corner.

Jinnah made the right call.

Implementation however could have been better in hindsight.

Its not fair that the next 100 years of the region are plagued in conflict because of a border dispute.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Like I said earlier, Narinder Modi is the best ISI agent ever. This guy is setting fires across India and now wants to further douse more fuel on the Kashmir dispute.

Do you think Kashmiris are going to lay back and take this lightly? Uri 2.0 on its way.

 

[rhony]

Like I said earlier, Narinder Modi is the best ISI agent ever. This guy is setting fires across India and now wants to further douse more fuel on the Kashmir dispute.

Do you think Kashmiris are going to lay back and take this lightly? Uri 2.0 on its way.

Palestinians are more violent and aggressive then Kashmiris and Israel built settlements. Across the border, China is training a million uighurs in a camp to be good citizens. India controls the narrative on Uri and Phulwama type incidents and uses them to it's advantage. You are over estimating Kashmiris.

 

[rhony]

Kashmir is dud. Modi will play Kashmir like a Fidel as he did with Phulwama. All other political parties are almost decimated. He will own Kashmir and Kashmiris this decade though. There is no state government and he controls it. He will dump a million more army men if needed and will squeeze the Kashmiris to subjugation. Just when the elections are near, there will be an attack and the squeeze continues. At the end of the day, azadi ain't worth food and water if u know what I mean.

 

[rhony]

"Secular" country argument went out the window with Hindutva politics coming into mainstream. So their choices are to fight for independence, or to submit to people that openly talk about birth control for muslims, killing muslims, destroying their mosques, etc...

Also, did the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits happen before or after Indian occupation??

You can't begin history at the point of your convenience.

The secular and socialist words weren't part of India's constitution when it was framed. Indira Gandhi added those to appease the Americans and the Russians. India has always been a Hindu country and now they are just accepting it. However, India will always claim to be secular though. It gives them soft power. And the rest of the world believes it too. So there's that.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Palestinians are more violent and aggressive then Kashmiris and Israel built settlements. Across the border, China is training a million uighurs in a camp to be good citizens. India controls the narrative on Uri and Phulwama type incidents and uses them to it's advantage. You are over estimating Kashmiris.

In India, yes it does control the narrative...because its citizens are mindless sheep who desperately want to believe Kashmir belongs to them, despite UNSCR47 clearly stating otherwise.

The rest of the world don't buy a thing India says...they're regarded as the "boy who cries wolf" in the international community. Blames Pakistan for everything, can't provide a shred of evidence to back it up.

Case in point, the so-called "air strike in Pakistan", which has now proven to be a dud.

And videos like this spreading on YouTube don't help your cause either:

Central University, Gandarbal students force Indian soldiers out of hostels

Kashmiri civilian being beaten by Indian soldiers

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Here are Kashmiris saying it to your face on national TV.

And while we're on the topic of Kashmir, here's a history lesson.

 

[Civil]

Lol this is gonna splash up hard in Modi's face. What army couldn't do they expect citizens too??? I love how bad Modi is for India. Best thing to happen to Pakistan in a while if they can cease the oppurtunity

 

[Kriketer]

Lol. The house wives comment gave me a chuckle. But yeah, Kashmir is dud. Modi will play Kashmir like a Fidel as he did with Phulwama. All other political parties are almost decimated. He will own Kashmir and Kashmiris this decade though. There is no state government and he controls it. He will dump a million more army men if needed and will squeeze the Kashmiris to subjugation. Just when the elections are near, there will be an attack and the squeeze continues. At the end of the day, azadi ain't worth food and water if u know what I mean.

The ratio been one freedom fighter to 50 indian armymen so up to you folks.

I mean ofcourse you been terrorizing it for decades so wouldn't make a difference to you folks. Modi's dumping million more wouldn't change the fact that there's actual struggle for freedom there. I guess after Trump unvieled how Modi begged him to help him in Kashmir, not sure how effecient Modi's plan are goning to be. A banned terrorist is only dividing you folks. You couldn't do jack in Kashmir for 70 odd years, and you still won't be able to do much different other then torturing innocents.

As long as you are hell bent on terorrizig it, there won't be peace. Act mature and learn as a nation to work towards peace and progress. It's a dispute which must be resolved through dialouges. Enough of atrocities. Dumping armies will only send them back in boxes (don't support it as it only fuels hatred), better off dumping your million armymen all around India to clean up your actual railway and road dump problem.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Furthermore, the whole "Pandit exodus" thing is overblown **. Indian nationalists can't even agree as to how many Pandits were forced to leave.

According to a number of authors, approximately 100,000 of the total Kashmiri Pandit population of 140,000 left the valley during the 1990s.

Other authors have suggested a higher figure for the exodus, ranging from the entire population of over 150,000, to 190,000 of a total Pandit population of 200,000, to a number as high as 800,000.

The nature of the planned exodus has remain controversial, with the involvement of then Governor Jagmohan in organizing a clandestine exodus been a subject of controversy.

Many of the refugee Kashmiri Pandits have been living in abject conditions in refugee camps of Jammu.



These are all myths at best. Meanwhile, these very same Indian nationalists all but IGNORE the Jammu massacre which took place between 1947 to 1949, where the Muslim majority Jammu region was all but religiously cleansed.

They love talking about a few hundred pandits being killed in the 1990s, but ignore the over 250,000 Muslims of Jammu massacred.

The exact number of casualties in the killings that continued for two months is not known but estimates range from 20,000 to 237,000 and nearly half million forced into displacement across the border into the newly created nation of Pakistan and its administered part of Kashmir.

The Muslims, who constituted more than 60 percent of the population of Jammu region, were reduced to a minority after the killings and displacement.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017...-ignited-kashmir-dispute-171106144526930.html

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Lol this is gonna splash up hard in Modi's face. What army couldn't do they expect citizens too??? I love how bad Modi is for India. Best thing to happen to Pakistan in a while if they can cease the oppurtunity

Been consistently saying this. Narinder Modi is the ISI's Manchurian Candidate.

 

[Lonewarrior]

its too little too late for india,

Mark this post, this is the beginning of the never ending Jihad in Kashmir.
Goodluck to Indian Govt/Army/Bhukts.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The ratio been one freedom fighter to 50 indian armymen so up to you folks.

I mean ofcourse you been terrorizing it for decades so wouldn't make a difference to you folks. Modi's dumping million more wouldn't change the fact that there's actual struggle for freedom there. I guess after Trump unvieled how Modi begged him to help him in Kashmir, not sure how effecient Modi's plan are goning to be. A banned terrorist is only dividing you folks. You couldn't do jack in Kashmir for 70 odd years, and you still won't be able to do much different other then torturing innocents.

As long as you are hell bent on terorrizig it, there won't be peace. Act mature and learn as a nation to work towards peace and progress. It's a dispute which must be resolved through dialouges. Enough of atrocities. Dumping armies will only send them back in boxes (don't support it as it only fuels hatred), better off dumping your million armymen all around India to clean up your actual railway and road dump problem.

Indians didnot ask Pakistanis for their advise on Kashmir. Its our territory and and terrorist and seditious movement will ve dealt with as we deem fit.

There is nothing anyone can do about it.

Those whom you call freedom fighters are globally banned terrorists.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

Indians didnot ask Pakistanis for their advise on Kashmir. Its our territory and and terrorist and seditious movement will ve dealt with as we deem fit.

There is nothing anyone can do about it.

Those whom you call freedom fighters are globally banned terrorists.

Its not Indias territory, its kashmiris territory even the UN resolution states a plebiscite will take place and its up to kashmiris to decide where there fate rests.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Indians didnot ask Pakistanis for their advise on Kashmir. Its our territory and and terrorist and seditious movement will ve dealt with as we deem fit.

We don't give a damn what India asked for didn't ask for. Jammu & Kashmir is regarded as disputed territory under UNSCR47 by all 192 UN member states. You can keep yapping all you want about Kashmir being an "intagral paart of da indya"...when your soldiers keep getting picked off like pigeons, it sounds rather ridiculous.

There is nothing anyone can do about it.

Keep watching your soldiers get blown up then.

Those whom you call freedom fighters are globally banned terrorists.

Who are terrorists? The kids throwing rocks at your soldiers? You seem to have confused a small faction of Islamists with the vast majority of Kashmiri nationalists. Don't make that mistake...it'll come back to haunt you big time.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Here are Kashmiris saying it to your face on national TV.

And while we're on the topic of Kashmir, here's a history lesson.

Just a reminder...these are the vast majority of Kashmiri separatists. Young, educated and armed with words.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Its not Indias territory, its kashmiris territory even the UN resolution states a plebiscite will take place and its up to kashmiris to decide where there fate rests.

This is exactly how silly Indians are when it comes to debating Kashmir. They can't make up their minds if Jammu & Kashmir is disputed territory or an integral part of India.

On the one hand they call it an "integral part of India" (ie. occupied by 1 million troops, making it the most militarized region on Earth).

On the other hand they insist on quoting one part of United Nations Security Council Resolution 47 which states that Pakistan has to withdraw its troops before a plebiscite can occur.

They conveniently forget the part of UNSCR47 that states that the entire region of Jammu & Kashmir is disputed (contested). That part they don't like mentioning.

Either abide by UNSCR47 fully or don't...stop behaving like it's a packet of nimko. :

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

This is exactly how silly Indians are when it comes to debating Kashmir. They can't make up their minds if Jammu & Kashmir is disputed territory or an integral part of India.

On the one hand they call it an "integral part of India" (ie. occupied by 1 million troops, making it the most militarized region on Earth).

On the other hand they insist on quoting one part of United Nations Security Council Resolution 47 which states that Pakistan has to withdraw its troops before a plebiscite can occur.

They conveniently forget the part of UNSCR47 that states that the entire region of Jammu & Kashmir is disputed (contested). That part they don't like mentioning.

Either abide by UNSCR47 fully or don't...stop behaving like it's a packet of nimko. :

Now we know why they have strong love for Israel, the law cant help them but lies and power can.

 

[rhony]

The ratio been one freedom fighter to 50 indian armymen so up to you folks.

I mean ofcourse you been terrorizing it for decades so wouldn't make a difference to you folks. Modi's dumping million more wouldn't change the fact that there's actual struggle for freedom there. I guess after Trump unvieled how Modi begged him to help him in Kashmir, not sure how effecient Modi's plan are goning to be. A banned terrorist is only dividing you folks. You couldn't do jack in Kashmir for 70 odd years, and you still won't be able to do much different other then torturing innocents.

As long as you are hell bent on terorrizig it, there won't be peace. Act mature and learn as a nation to work towards peace and progress. It's a dispute which must be resolved through dialouges. Enough of atrocities. Dumping armies will only send them back in boxes (don't support it as it only fuels hatred), better off dumping your million armymen all around India to clean up your actual railway and road dump problem.

Millions of Kashmiris but only a few wielding weapons. That sums up the kashmiri struggle. They pelt big stones at the army but get their eyes pelted with small stones. Then they play victim. That's Kashmir struggle. Instead of progressing there are now talks about abrogation of those dumb articles. IOK should be part of India, POK should be part of Pak and that should be the solution. If not, settlements will happen and people will keep playing victims, be it the army or Kashmiris. We all know how that will turn up. A few jihadis vs a mighty army will always go in only one direction. With Amit Shah and modi at the helm, the end is getting closer. Heck I'm not an Indian citizen and I want to buy a property in Kashmir. I've been there once and it's gorgeous. Wish Modi can facilitate that.

 

[rhony]

In India, yes it does control the narrative...because its citizens are mindless sheep who desperately want to believe Kashmir belongs to them, despite UNSCR47 clearly stating otherwise.

The rest of the world don't buy a thing India says...they're regarded as the "boy who cries wolf" in the international community. Blames Pakistan for everything, can't provide a shred of evidence to back it up.

Case in point, the so-called "air strike in Pakistan", which has now proven to be a dud.

And videos like this spreading on YouTube don't help your cause either:

Central University, Gandarbal students force Indian soldiers out of hostels

Kashmiri civilian being beaten by Indian soldiers

Do you think anybody in the world cares about Kashmir or Kashmiris? None. Only the Indians and Pakistanis do and Pakistan is not in a position to dictate anything. Modi has a free card. And Amit shah is the in charge of Kashmir. Apparently majority of Indians are with Modi on Kashmir issue. That should be enough for BJP to do something to bring this nuisance to closure.

 

[Pakistanian]

Simple, you Kashmiri's are nothing but trouble, you could have lived peacefully, enjoyed the diabolical article 35A privilages and had the best of all worlds. However you choose violence instead, killing, raping and driving out the Pandits because they were not muslim. All this started with what was done with the Pandits and soon all your privileges such as you have to be a Kashmiri etc to own land in Kashmir may soon come to an end.

This could be the future;

- RIP in trying to bleed India with a 1000 cuts using Kashmiris (Pakistan specific)

- RIP to the stone pelters, I cant wait till a whole lot of Biharis come down to settle in Kashmir, if you thought the Indian army was bad, wait to see what's it store with Biharis, you have no idea whats coming your way .


I have no sympathy for you Kashmiris, all you do is cause trouble and when retaliation comes you cry foul, well bad luck.....

So you're willing to wipe out 95% of the population of Kashmir just cause your fellow caste members that mak up 5% may have been persecuted 30 years ago.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Its not Indias territory, its kashmiris territory even the UN resolution states a plebiscite will take place and its up to kashmiris to decide where there fate rests.

Its our territory. The UN hasnot even discussed Kashmir in over 50yrs.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is exactly how silly Indians are when it comes to debating Kashmir. They can't make up their minds if Jammu & Kashmir is disputed territory or an integral part of India.

On the one hand they call it an "integral part of India" (ie. occupied by 1 million troops, making it the most militarized region on Earth).

On the other hand they insist on quoting one part of United Nations Security Council Resolution 47 which states that Pakistan has to withdraw its troops before a plebiscite can occur.

They conveniently forget the part of UNSCR47 that states that the entire region of Jammu & Kashmir is disputed (contested). That part they don't like mentioning.

Either abide by UNSCR47 fully or don't...stop behaving like it's a packet of nimko. :

Read UNSCR 47.

Pakistan has to vacate Kashmir.

Indians can keep a certain amont of troops in Kashmir.

Its pakistan who have no locus standi in kashmir and are illegal squatters.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We don't give a damn what India asked for didn't ask for. Jammu & Kashmir is regarded as disputed territory under UNSCR47 by all 192 UN member states. You can keep yapping all you want about Kashmir being an "intagral paart of da indya"...when your soldiers keep getting picked off like pigeons, it sounds rather ridiculous.



Keep watching your soldiers get blown up then.



Who are terrorists? The kids throwing rocks at your soldiers? You seem to have confused a small faction of Islamists with the vast majority of Kashmiri nationalists. Don't make that mistake...it'll come back to haunt you big time.

Every time a soldier is martyred in kashmir, the LoC will be lit up.

Pakistan neither has the army,nor the economy and surely not the world power to get kashmir.

Terrorists will be killed. Their supporters dealt with. Pressure on LoC will continue.

Economically it will be hurt.

Pakistanis can keep crying about kashmir, no one gives a damn.

 

[Pakistanian]

Every time a soldier is martyred in kashmir, the LoC will be lit up.

Pakistan neither has the army,nor the economy and surely not the world power to get kashmir.

Terrorists will be killed. Their supporters dealt with. Pressure on LoC will continue.

Economically it will be hurt.

Pakistanis can keep crying about kashmir, no one gives a damn.

India has a weaker army, a crappy economy, and nor any allies but most importantly they don't have the people of Kashmir on their side.

 

[moghul]

Every time a soldier is martyred in kashmir, the LoC will be lit up.

Pakistan neither has the army,nor the economy and surely not the world power to get kashmir.

Terrorists will be killed. Their supporters dealt with. Pressure on LoC will continue.

Economically it will be hurt.

Pakistanis can keep crying about kashmir, no one gives a damn.

I'm sure your grandfather said the same, but it did not happen, in 70 plus years. India's own mainstream population is much unhappier since its economical growth putting them at 140th ranked in most unhappy nations, how can you make Kashmiris happy and win them.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Pretty much every successful counter insurgency effort in recent times has involved changing the demographics of the region in question. And Jammu and Kashmir will be no different.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India has a weaker army, a crappy economy, and nor any allies but most importantly they don't have the people of Kashmir on their side.

Lol. Those are some delusions that you have.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I'm sure your grandfather said the same, but it did not happen, in 70 plus years. India's own mainstream population is much unhappier since its economical growth putting them at 140th ranked in most unhappy nations, how can you make Kashmiris happy and win them.

My grandfather left East Pakistan, because he knew what mess that place would be.He was pretty right about it.

70yrs and the Indian flag flies in Srinagar. And Pakistan cant do anything about it.

 

[Pakistanian]

My grandfather left East Pakistan, because he knew what mess that place would be.He was pretty right about it.

70yrs and the Indian flag flies in Srinagar. And Pakistan cant do anything about it.

Is that true? I thought Bangladesh was better than India [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=101410]LongHorn[/MENTION]

 

[cricketjoshila]

Is that true? I thought Bangladesh was better than India [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=101410]LongHorn[/MENTION]

My grandfather left East Pakistan, not Bangladesh.

I hope BD is better than India, so the few million illegal BDeshis we have go back.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

It’s interesting that those who whine about India potentially resettling non Kashmiri Indians in J&K never have a problem with Gilgit-Baltistan/Pakistan Administered Kashmir being flooded by non natives. Just look at what’s happened to the Shiite population of Gilgit-Baltistan.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander........

 

[MMHS]

Is that true? I thought Bangladesh was better than India [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=101410]LongHorn[/MENTION]

The context is different - Hindus left East Bengal, later East Pakistan. Similarly many Punjabi, Behari & Gujrati Muslims left India for PAK. Also, in last 70 years at least 20% of Bangladeshi population (Muslims) have migrated from India to Bangladesh, therefore it's more to do with migration from religious security. Bangladesh has improved in HDI lot in last 35 years but still the job opportunities, social security/facilities, treatment, education system, mass transportation .... are much better in India and the rich class in India are truly filthy rich, therefore in Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore, Chennai ... you can enjoy the "rich & famous" life probably at per with Cities like NY, London, Paris or Toronto - IF YOU HAVE MONEY. "Rich & Famous" of Bangladesh has to go to Thailand, Dubai, KL or at least India to enjoy that - it's not for religious bindings, rather for example, it's just not business feasible to make a 5 star Casino or racing track in Bangladesh yet.

What Bangladesh has done remarkably well is in poverty elimination - rural Bangladesh has progressed multiple fold in last 3-4 decades. Now in Bangladesh, apart from few pockets (often flood affected), you'll see quite prosperous rural population in BD, which probably you won't see many of Indian states. But, rural areas in top Indian states like Gujrat, Maharastra, Punjab, Hariyana, & South India should be better than upper tier of BD rural areas. Also, BD's economy has grown rapidly, but that economic growth is polarized mostly around Dhaka & may be Chittagong, which has created a hollow in the society - middle class is shrinking and people with legal/illegal money are crowding Dhaka/Chittagong - result, inflation that's killing middle class. I think, Indian middle class are much better and the size is quite big.

 

[Pakistanian]

It’s interesting that those who whine about India potentially resettling non Kashmiri Indians in J&K never have a problem with Gilgit-Baltistan/Pakistan Administered Kashmir being flooded by non natives. Just look at what’s happened to the Shiite population of Gilgit-Baltistan.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander........

This is a myth oft perpetuated by Indians. Pakistani laws do not allow non-natives to buy land in Azad Kashmir or Gilgit-Baltistan so I don't get where you guys get the "flooded by nonnatives" theory from. Gilgit is still shia majority so you're wrong about that as well, if a demographic change did take place the languages spoken in the region would've changed but that hasn't happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgit-Baltistan#Demographics

India has already been flooding Iok with non-natives for a long time, the difference is this time they're trying to changes the laws to bring in even more indians. Pakistan has never proposed changing any laws to allow to non-natives to buy land or live in their part of Kashmir.

 

[daytrader]

Every time a soldier is martyred in kashmir, the LoC will be lit up.

Pakistan neither has the army,nor the economy and surely not the world power to get kashmir.

Terrorists will be killed. Their supporters dealt with. Pressure on LoC will continue.

Economically it will be hurt.

Pakistanis can keep crying about kashmir, no one gives a damn.

Your soldiers are challenged and killed by Kashmiris not Pakistanis. And you know very well how we respond to your attacks. Your army is not brave enough to try anything stupid after the Feb 27th incident. It took you 70 years to get courage to fly into our territory. After our response, wait another 70 before your army gets their balls together

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Its our territory. The UN hasnot even discussed Kashmir in over 50yrs.

What's to discuss? All 192 UN members accept Jammu & Kashmir is disputed. UNSCR47 also says it.

Deal with it.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Your soldiers are challenged and killed by Kashmiris not Pakistanis. And you know very well how we respond to your attacks. Your army is not brave enough to try anything stupid after the Feb 27th incident. It took you 70 years to get courage to fly into our territory. After our response, wait another 70 before your army gets their balls together

He believes Azad Kashmir also belongs to India. So I have many times challenged him as to why India have allowed Pakistan to occupy a huge and important chunk of their country and why India cant liberate this. No answers so far.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

My grandfather left East Pakistan, because he knew what mess that place would be.He was pretty right about it.

70yrs and the Indian flag flies in Srinagar. And Pakistan cant do anything about it.

Lol Pakistan doesn't have an issue with that. Fly your trash in your stadium behind guns. Pakistan's flag is annually raised at Lal Chowk every 14 August.

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You pretend like it doesn't bother you Pakistan controls Gilgit Baltistan and AJK. 70 years and your hungry scrony army hasn't been able to take back your "integral parts".

Besharmo. All you've had is rocks thrown at you and the occasional MiG shot down.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Your soldiers are challenged and killed by Kashmiris not Pakistanis. And you know very well how we respond to your attacks. Your army is not brave enough to try anything stupid after the Feb 27th incident. It took you 70 years to get courage to fly into our territory. After our response, wait another 70 before your army gets their balls together

The moral of Indian troops isn't that high in IOK. There's going to come a time when soldiers refuse orders...you can already sense it. How many Uri's and rocks thrown will these men take? It's only a matter of time.

 

[Pakistanian]

What Kashmiri kids think about Pakistan.

India wants to wipe out anybody that opposes them regardless of their age or gender.

 

[Romali_rotti]

The fake drama of pundits.

Yeap like I previously stated; Deny, Deny, Deny lol, Yeah Kashmiri muslims are all moral, righteous, they can never do anything wrong.. ..


God riddance if/once that article 35 is removed, all will come to an end...

 

[slipcatch]

Yeap like I previously stated; Deny, Deny, Deny lol, Yeah Kashmiri muslims are all moral, righteous, they can never do anything wrong.. ..


God riddance if/once that article 35 is removed, all will come to an end...

Yup!

A stone thrower, who doesn't want their land to be ruled by radicalized extremists nationalist hindus aren't moral but the occuyping army, which killed them fro throwing stones at them and their Hindutva supporters have achieved the highest level morality there is.

Congrats, here a fantastic tea cup for you.

 

[IMMY69]

Yeap like I previously stated; Deny, Deny, Deny lol, Yeah Kashmiri muslims are all moral, righteous, they can never do anything wrong.. ..


God riddance if/once that article 35 is removed, all will come to an end...

You're sounding like a deranged extremist.

It amazes me how some people can just put aside the lives of others, as if they are just collateral damage, due to extreme nationalism.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What's to discuss? All 192 UN members accept Jammu & Kashmir is disputed. UNSCR47 also says it.

Deal with it.

Say what? Lol.

No country has asked India to handover kashmir to pakistan.

According to UNSCR 47 pakistan must vacate kashmir. Do that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol Pakistan doesn't have an issue with that. Fly your trash in your stadium behind guns. Pakistan's flag is annually raised at Lal Chowk every 14 August.

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You pretend like it doesn't bother you Pakistan controls Gilgit Baltistan and AJK. 70 years and your hungry scrony army hasn't been able to take back your "integral parts".

Besharmo. All you've had is rocks thrown at you and the occasional MiG shot down.

Pakistan cant have an issue? Because it cant do a thing about it.

All it can do is cry at UN, or send terrorists.

Terrorists flying a flag they are paid to hoist makes you proud. Lol. No wonder Pakistan has so many UN terrorists roaming around.

Pretend? Lolfer. Status quo suits as fine. Just like it suits China on Taiwan or Sikkim. War doesnot suit us

70 years and the Indian Army made a new country called Bangladesh.

How shameless you can be, we had 90k pakistanis in our captivity, we returned them. Kuch to sharm karo.

Your PM is going around begging for bailouts.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

"Kashmir is being illegally occupied by India" - Nivedita Menon

Highly encourage everyone to watch this entire online lecture. She really exposes the fraud that this neo-colonial nation is. Pretty much a continuation of the former British Raj, with their new Brahmin lapdogs now in power.

 

[xbronze]

India has a weaker army, a crappy economy, and nor any allies but most importantly they don't have the people of Kashmir on their side.

So what has prevented Pakistan from getting ONE inch of Indian Kashmir in over 30 years that Kashmir has been on a boil?

 

[xbronze]

"Kashmir is being illegally occupied by India" - Nivedita Menon

Highly encourage everyone to watch this entire online lecture. She really exposes the fraud that this neo-colonial nation is. Pretty much a continuation of the former British Raj, with their new Brahmin lapdogs now in power.

Just a caveat. All these JNU jhola wallahs are always in support of every separatist, maoist, terrorist, fundamentalist etc. etc. etc. so long as they are working against the government of India. Ironically, it wouldnt matter if the government at the center is BJP or Congress or even made by third parties (like it happened in the nineties). The JNU teary eyed liberals - both teachers and students - are always equally against Congress or anyone else of authority.

Don't cry tears for these JNU folks. When the Pakistani soldier give their lives to fight terrorists in Balochistan or elsewhere in Pakistan, these JNU liberals shed tears for those sad 'masoom' terrorists.

YOu know why I used 'masoom' above? Arundhati Roy, another one who supports such liberals, once was speaking against the atrocities committed by armed forces against people engaged in terrorism. And she stated that she looks at youngs terrorists and she sees such 'masoom' eyes and innocence in them.

So while, most Pakistanis would be overjoyed to watch and listen to such professors and liberal activist who will deplore the Indian state, Indian Government and Indian military, every chance they get, I shall still caution you that these people hold zero relevance in anything.

So dont just get over eager to hug such liberals in JNU and elsewhere in India. Between Pakistan Military and terrorists, they shall support the terrorists that Pakistan is fighting. That is in the very blood of these liberals.