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Navdeep Saini - Potential express pace bowler from India

Navdeep saini - young fast bowler from India

This lad has good height and good pace. Will he be a new find for India. Already bowling around 148kph.
 
I already said this a million times before.
saini
prasidh krishna
avesh khan
mavi
porel

are all good talents. saini mavi and krishna will play odi and tests in the future.They just need to develop some skills.
 
Atul Sharma made Shoaib and waqar look like trundlers, don't compare anyone with Atul Sharma, the world has never seen a faster bowler than him and most likely will never see anyone bowling 180kmph again.

I thought he bowled at 200kph?

My life has been a lie?
 
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Bowler first 8 overs for 28 and than went for 30 runs in his last two overs.
 
138.9 average speed isn't express.

Shaheen has an average speed which is close to this as well. Looks like this Saini guy can bowl 145-150 kmph balls but doesn't consistently bowl at that speed.
 
138.9 average speed isn't express.

Shaheen has an average speed which is close to this as well. Looks like this Saini guy can bowl 145-150 kmph balls but doesn't consistently bowl at that speed.

Towards the end he slowed it down probably on purpose as the ball was nicely coming on at pace. He bowls a heavy ball. He is going to be get better and better.
 
He looks quite fragile.He needs to strengthen his body otherwise he will be prone to injury.To bowl consistently fast is not easy.
 
He looks quite fragile.He needs to strengthen his body otherwise he will be prone to injury.To bowl consistently fast is not easy.

He refuses to bulk up. This is what he will look like. I hope we get one WTC cycle out of him.
 
He says if he bulks up, his arm speed decreases and he loses pace.

Then he needs to work on his arm speed as well, you have to work hard to stay at top for 10-12 years in international cricket.
 
Then he needs to work on his arm speed as well, you have to work hard to stay at top for 10-12 years in international cricket.

Saini is a tennis ball bowler who only got into red ball cricket 4 years back. Its the tennis ball that helped him get his arm speed. Lets see how he goes from here.

He is surely promising and can give Bumrah and Shami good company m
 
Saini is a tennis ball bowler who only got into red ball cricket 4 years back. Its the tennis ball that helped him get his arm speed. Lets see how he goes from here.

He is surely promising and can give Bumrah and Shami good company m

Isn’t he like 27?

I’ll be happy if we can get 4-5 years of LOI cricket.
 
152.2kph. Serious pace.

Yeah - I saw that too and jumped out of my seat. However, the summary of the over put that ball at 148/149 I think ... still serious pace.

Also, the line and length was spot on and so were the variations ... the Yorker wicket was simply awesome ...
 
Sri Lankan bowlers are generating good pace at par with Ind and Pak top pacers in Asia
 
Saini is sharp. If he learns some.control with that pace he could be a valuable asset for India.
 
This is average speed/Max speed I guess.

Thakur is better he can bat too. Saini is good too but he bowls good at the start but than gets hit for one boundary Nd loses his line and length completely and starts getting spanked at the death. Though it’s good that didn’t happen today but that was because it was Sri Lanka. But regardless of all that he’s got heatttttt. Btw I didn’t watch the match what was Bumrahs pace today?
 
Thakur is better he can bat too. Saini is good too but he bowls good at the start but than gets hit for one boundary Nd loses his line and length completely and starts getting spanked at the death. Though it’s good that didn’t happen today but that was because it was Sri Lanka. But regardless of all that he’s got heatttttt. Btw I didn’t watch the match what was Bumrahs pace today?

May I ask what kind of data have you analysed and how many matches have you observed to come up with a judgement like that? Saini hasn't even played 10 matches all format combined for crying out loud. In this match he started off ordinary, gave 10 runs in his first, then picked up his pace and Lankan's were all at see, almost 45% of his deliveries were over 145kph and they really struggled to put bat on ball.

Bumrah was a bit rusty which is understandable coming from a long injury, still kept it tight, conceded 12 in his last over that somewhat messed up his numbers today. He does extensive pace variation so his average speed sometimes takes a hit but he generally can clock up to 147-148. Today his fastest was around 146k.
 
Thakur is better he can bat too. Saini is good too but he bowls good at the start but than gets hit for one boundary Nd loses his line and length completely and starts getting spanked at the death. Though it’s good that didn’t happen today but that was because it was Sri Lanka. But regardless of all that he’s got heatttttt. Btw I didn’t watch the match what was Bumrahs pace today?

Lol at Thakur being better, no top team select bowlers based on their batting credentials. He is a stopgap measure at best. Bumrah and Shami are our top two in LOI and with Bhuvi being injured it is between Thakur and Saini to take the third spot and anyone with an ounce of cricketing knowledge would admit that Saini is a much better bowler. I wish we had a selector like inzi, the likes of Avesh and Prasidh Krishna would have debuted already.
 
May I ask what kind of data have you analysed and how many matches have you observed to come up with a judgement like that? Saini hasn't even played 10 matches all format combined for crying out loud. In this match he started off ordinary, gave 10 runs in his first, then picked up his pace and Lankan's were all at see, almost 45% of his deliveries were over 145kph and they really struggled to put bat on ball.

Bumrah was a bit rusty which is understandable coming from a long injury, still kept it tight, conceded 12 in his last over that somewhat messed up his numbers today. He does extensive pace variation so his average speed sometimes takes a hit but he generally can clock up to 147-148. Today his fastest was around 146k.

In the odi against West Indies the last one at the death he got hit a lot. Even in one t20 as well. Plus I know he hasn’t played international cricket I was talking about IPL that’s what was happening to him in IPL.
 
In the odi against West Indies the last one at the death he got hit a lot. Even in one t20 as well. Plus I know he hasn’t played international cricket I was talking about IPL that’s what was happening to him in IPL.

Do you really think one ODI is enough to judge him? How can you expect a guy playing the first international match in his career to show death bowling mastery against some of the best hitters of the world?

In IPL even the likes of Steyn, Rabada, Boult, Shami etc get taken to the cleaners, what is your point?
 
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Do you really think one ODI is enough to judge him? How can you expect a guy playing the first international match in his career to show death bowling mastery against some of the best hitters of the world?

In IPL even the likes of Steyn, Rabada, Boult, Shami etc get taken to the cleaners, what is your point?

That’s why I clearly referred to IPL. Guess who doesn’t get hit in IPL Bumrah. Guess who’s the best bowler in the world Bumrah. The names you took are garbage t20 bowlers steyn is finished even in the bbl boult is another t20 failure. Rabadas also a way better test match bowler. Shami can’t nail a Yorker to save his life so he doesn’t even count in t20s.
 
That’s why I clearly referred to IPL. Guess who doesn’t get hit in IPL Bumrah. Guess who’s the best bowler in the world Bumrah. The names you took are garbage t20 bowlers steyn is finished even in the bbl boult is another t20 failure. Rabadas also a way better test match bowler. Shami can’t nail a Yorker to save his life so he doesn’t even count in t20s.

IPL stats isn't everything lol even then he has played only like a dozen IPL matches. Not enough to evaluate let alone pass judgements.

I am pretty sure Saini doesn't want to be just a t20 specialist, he would do very good achieve half of what Shami, Rabada and Boult achieved and a quarter of what Steyn accomplished in the formats that matter.
 
Navdeep Saini's growth is entirely in his hands. Being the RCB player as well Kohli will lend full support to hi m. He has to make it count. He should learn to be smart.
 
Lots?

Better question would be at this pace with control.

My initial impression is that he has more control than a Lockie for example.
 
Lots?

Better question would be at this pace with control.

My initial impression is that he has more control than a Lockie for example.

Lockie has very good control Idk what you’re talking about it’s just that lockie bowls short pitch balls way too much and is quite predictable he’s the fastest bowler in the world on average speed though.
 
Lockie has very good control Idk what you’re talking about it’s just that lockie bowls short pitch balls way too much and is quite predictable he’s the fastest bowler in the world on average speed though.

His variations go awry
 
Good stuff but ideally he needs to add swing with the new ball and reverse swing the older ball going forward to be consistantly successful across the formats.
 
I guess its just me personally that is skeptical about him, dont see the fuss seems Aaron 2.0 to me
 
Good stuff but ideally he needs to add swing with the new ball and reverse swing the older ball going forward to be consistantly successful across the formats.

His stock ball is the hard length. In between, he slips in a yorker.
 
Will Navdeep Saini be called for chucking?

Watching him bowl against Australia, his arm seems to straighten a fair bit.

Not sure whether is 15 degrees or not. Will he be called to get his action checked?
 
Saini's pace drops significantly in 2nd or 3rd spell today his later spell was 83 to 88mph first spell was 87 to 91mph
 
His yorkers are really good. He just has to mix and match his deliveries better. Hope he develops well. He is here to stay. We don't want Thakurs, Unadkats.
 
His yorkers are really good. He just has to mix and match his deliveries better. Hope he develops well. He is here to stay. We don't want Thakurs, Unadkats.

what do you mean by develop he is already 27 his pace will go down in year or two chances should be given to younger bowlers
 
His yorkers are really good. He just has to mix and match his deliveries better. Hope he develops well. He is here to stay. We don't want Thakurs, Unadkats.

How Thakur ever played before him is a mystery no one can solve.
 
what do you mean by develop he is already 27 his pace will go down in year or two chances should be given to younger bowlers

There is this misconception all the 19 year old who bowl at 135k will become at 180k when they turn 25 lol It rarely works that way. Shami despite being older is bowling some of his fastest spells these days. It all comes down to action, athleticism, release. Ishant is still bowling fast when needed.
 
Some 19 year olds do increase their pace as they get older.This is because they get stronger.Their muscles get stronger as they play more games.However a 19 year old who bowls at 135kph will not be bowling at 150+ when he is 25.Very fast bowlers are a special breed.That is why you dnb't see many Lees,Akhtars,Holdings,Thompsons etc. around.
 
Some 19 year olds do increase their pace as they get older.This is because they get stronger.Their muscles get stronger as they play more games.However a 19 year old who bowls at 135kph will not be bowling at 150+ when he is 25.Very fast bowlers are a special breed.That is why you dnb't see many Lees,Akhtars,Holdings,Thompsons etc. around.

Thats what iam saying saini is not a genuine fast bowler ihave seen umar gul and novan pardeep bowling faster than saini if saini clocks 150 in regular intervals and maintain his pace atleast for 5 years tgen he should be considered as genuine fast bowler
 
Thats what iam saying saini is not a genuine fast bowler ihave seen umar gul and novan pardeep bowling faster than saini if saini clocks 150 in regular intervals and maintain his pace atleast for 5 years tgen he should be considered as genuine fast bowler

Only bowler who bowled fast 150plus and equally effective and deadly in modern times was Brett lee. No one comes close to him. Talking about Saini I don’t think india is looking at him as that sort of bowler.
 
Only bowler who bowled fast 150plus and equally effective and deadly in modern times was Brett lee. No one comes close to him. Talking about Saini I don’t think india is looking at him as that sort of bowler.

so according to you lee was better than shoaib,stark ,waqar, and donald ?
 
He can bowl an odd delivery of above 150 kph, but his average speed is around 140 kph. He is a decent pace bowler and can improve his skills (swing, to start with) to be considered good. Also, pace alone doesn't mean anything. The faster the ball reaches the bat, the faster it can get to the boundary.
 
He can bowl an odd delivery of above 150 kph, but his average speed is around 140 kph. He is a decent pace bowler and can improve his skills (swing, to start with) to be considered good. Also, pace alone doesn't mean anything. The faster the ball reaches the bat, the faster it can get to the boundary.

then why he is hyped as an express pacer
 
Bowling quick 146 kph in his first game of IPL 2020
 
147.92 kph - improved his speed and still fastest in IPL 2020 but wickets column rather weak.
 
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