Setting aside the issues of 1948, which started off by ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in 1947 and the views of the Zionist elites that to form a Jewish state would require expulsion of Arabs from their own homeland, what about 1967?
Palestinians aren’t fighting for pre-1948 land/borders. Even Hamas’s new charter is focussed on pre-1967 borders. Israel illegally invaded and annexed the West Bank and Gaza in 1967 with no just cause.
You either subscribe to a world view where might is right and you can occupy and take any territory you want whether legal or illegal or you subscribe to a world view that might is not right and that we have a rules based order where nation states can no longer invade any country they want and take it. I happen to believe in the latter world view and I am glad that this is what we have today. The League of Nations and its successor, the UN was created for this reason. So Israel in 1967 went against this world view as the UN was established by then as were international laws.
If you subscribe to the former world view where might is right, then you should also accept that in the future, when the US can no longer support Israel, then the Arabs may attack and take over the land entirely followed by expulsion of Jews. I however do not support this view as like the Palestinians, I support pre-1967 borders but at the same time accept in a state for Jewish people.
While Egypt also blockades Gaza by land, Israel not only blockades it by land but also by sea and air and this blockade has been happening since 1967 when Israel annexed the Gaza Strip. The blockade has only worsened over the decades. So the terrorism is a reaction to the suffering experienced by Palestinians as the world does nothing.
Hamas have never said they will recognise Israel. The pre 1967 borders are a temporary measure. Thus once gained, Israelis will still have to fear Hamas will push for more. This isn’t true of other organisations which have become less violent and more diplomatic such as the PLO. But as I said this is the issue. Hamas’s overrun of Gaza has also led to Israel to be less reluctant in negotiations given that is what Palestinians chose to vote in. A terrorist organisation not only considered to be one by Israel but Arab countries (and the rest of the world) too. Again this hostage debacle has also put a big dent in negotiations and given more support for the extremists in the Israeli government who don’t want to cede anything to Palestine.
There were several provocations that led to the war in 1967. Removing the un peacekeepers, mobilising troops, blocking access to the Red Sea trying to bankrupt the Israeli economy. This was all done partly as refusal to properly concede defeat back in 1948 and support the idea of Israel’s right to exist.
Back in 1948 Israel didn’t have much US support. They nearly lost. And had they lost there likely would have been a massacre. Tbh today take away US, and Israel still might win. Israel is too well established in its own right these days and Arab countries continue to have issues. 1948 was their best shot. Not saying necessarily might is right. But when you undertake a war, you have to prepare for the eventuality of losing.
The world are not friends of Palestine nor owes them anything. When Jews were expelled from the surrounding Arab countries, Israel took them in. There are so many surrounding Arab countries which could have collectively worked to integrate Palestinians. These Arab countries are the ones that convinced them to go to war in the first place. So bear responsibility for the loss. I don’t genuinely believe Palestinians would rather die and suffer in that land than live peaceful lives. Yes patriotism is important. But I think most place the wellbeing of their families above this even if they have to immigrate to other countries. More surrounding Arab countries wanted this to put pressure on Israel. And as a result of this, it has fuelled the rise of terrorism.
I think in the future more Arab countries will go towards the idea of recognising Israel. Some already have. What prevents them is public backlash. Their main enemy isn’t Israel anymore. It’s these terrorist organisations. I doubt they even feel the same they did back in 1948.
The issues were created back in 1948 war, where it all dates back to. Jews had already survived a holocaust and for centuries driven from land to land. 1948 was an almost final extermination of their people. I think it’s natural what you are going to create from that is a less caring, focused on self preservation country. Hard to have sympathy for the opposition when you would be dead if things went the other way around. They have basically created the monster in Israel themselves. I don’t think it was right to bow into Zionist pressure and give Israel land in the first place. But once that has been done, and a war has taken place and ended, you’ve got to look at the reality of the situation, it was unlikely Israel were going anywhere. And I don’t think Arab countries had any realistic, sensible plan or abilities to force Israel out after the war. Nor the terroist groups.
War is never good but it’s preferable over terrorism. War ends, peace terms are negotiated, countries can recover. Terrorism however can last forever and does nothing to aid the progress of a solution to the issue. If anything it sets it back. Civilians are left in a constant uneasy, insecure state on both sides. Economies dwindle. It’s like a plague.
is the View point of the terrorist/ gunman. Doesn’t seem like a member of RSS/ BJP. Also don’t think you meant it, I think saying those words is more of a medical tourette condition for you so will over look it.
. Doesn’t count because BJP is a political party and RSS is a legal social organization. Just because some dumb kid on a keyboard calls them “terror group” it doesn’t become one: you can be a official member of RSS or BJP and travel all over the world if you have legit documents. No immigration will stop you. Cant say the same for the organizations I am going to hit you with.
This should be good.
