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Did not expect such a panic from PTI and their supporters over the return of Nawaz.
Hang on there a second!!!
You mean you don't support PTI?
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Complicit are you?
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Did not expect such a panic from PTI and their supporters over the return of Nawaz.
Did not expect such a panic from PTI and their supporters over the return of Nawaz.
Poor Mian sb is still so sick 2 years later and now returning to serve his nation in need of his quality leadership. Now we all know who is cult and who was a liar back then?
Please keep supporting the frauds looters and now dont blame others for questioning whether these frauds fake their health problems? Kulssom Nawaz's sickness was also exploited politically and so was Sharif's ..... You lot believe everything they say and look how embarrassing it gets.
Sharif mafia also tried twice in last 2 months to prove their cases were conspiracy and both attempts (fake Saqib Nisar audio and Judge Shamim statement) turned out to be FRAUD. Shame on anyone who supports such pathetic crooks.
Thank you for the detailed information. This is indeed very concerning. Because of the mass media propaganda and the PTI trolling, it is impossible to get accurate reports over his condition.
PTI trolls will go to any depth. At this point, they don’t have an iota of shame or decency left in them. Kulsoom Nawaz had to die to prove that she was critical.
I really wish the Y word wasn’t censored here. Fits these trolls to perfection.
[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] few people like NS has no shame, I don't know how does ha have supporters too.
Did not expect such a panic from PTI and their supporters over the return of Nawaz.
The incumbent government wants to expose the “dubious” medical reports regarding former prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s health submitted in the Lahore High Court. Last week, the government announced filing of a petition in the LHC, seeking legal action against PML-N President Shehbaz Sharif for guaranteeing the return of his brother, convicted former premier Sharif, within a stipulated time, but he did not.
A cabinet member told The Express Tribune that the real purpose of the government’s move is to expose the “dubious” medical reports of former PM Sharif. Secondly, the government wants to persuade the LHC to initiate a contempt of court proceeding against Shehbaz for not fulfilling his undertaking regarding the return of his brother.
It is learnt that both federal and provincial governments started consulting medical experts to verify Sharif's medical reports which were sent to the LHC in August last year. According to the initial findings, the medical reports did not match the physical condition of Sharif as the reports are well arranged for the satisfaction of the court, sources informed.
A senior cabinet member said that if it is proved that Sharif's medical reports are fabricated, the government may send its own medical team for his check up to the United Kingdom (UK). “We may even challenge his medical reports there.” The minister said that the government would approach the LHC after full preparation in order to expose Sharif.
The government is even considering to place Sharif’s video before the LHC wherein he had announced his return to the country soon. Legal experts believe that it’s more a political issue rather than a legal one. “There is less chance that the government’s move may have legal consequences against the Sharif brothers.” However, the government wants to get political benefit which is to expose Sharif.
Last week, Federal Minister for Information Fawad Chaudhry said the high court should have questioned Shehbaz for submitting what he termed as a "fake" undertaking. “[According to the undertaking] Sharif had to return within four weeks but he hasn’t even after a passage of two years.” In November 2019, Sharif had left the country after he signed a court-approved undertaking, saying that he would return to the country within four weeks.
Shehbaz too had signed an undertaking, which stated he would "ensure return" of his brother "within four weeks or on certification by doctors that he has regained his health and is fit to return to Pakistan".
Sharif was allowed to leave the country for a period of four weeks, extendable on the basis of medical reports. Back then, the government had agreed to allow Sharif to travel abroad, with the condition that indemnity bonds amounting to Rs7-7.5 billion be furnished.
The PML-N had rejected the condition and had taken the matter to the LHC, which ordered the federal government to remove Sharif’s name from the Exit Control List without any conditions. He left for London after he was released on bail from a seven-year sentence for corruption. Later on, upon his failure to appear before different courts, he was declared a proclaimed offender. Now, the government believes that Sharif is staying in London despite being healthy and, therefore, he should be brought back.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2337946/govt-wants-to-expose-sharifs-medical-reports-as-dubious
I am sure the Nooras were telling us that he was due back at the end of December, What happened?
This is your guy attacking journalists through his goons on an open road. So tell us who is scared![]()
why did Imran Khan allowed a criminal to escape the country?
A mistake. He fell for their lies and has paid the price since. I remember some "Doc" on here telling us that IK was trying to kill the *****. I knew it was a scam but Kaptaan fell for it, but it wasn't IK that gave him bail. Who asked for his life to be guaranteed, who created the crescendo for his release?
so the pm is a bewakoof that fell for a scam? I just really hope our pm doesnt get emails from Nigerian princes..... Or else the debt of the country would rise. Very gullible man he seems according to you.
Nawaz was removed from ECL by the Federal govt.
ECL jurisdiction falls with federal govt due to an ordinance from 80s
so the pm is a bewakoof that fell for a scam? I just really hope our pm doesnt get emails from Nigerian princes..... Or else the debt of the country would rise. Very gullible man he seems according to you.
Nawaz was removed from ECL by the Federal govt.
ECL jurisdiction falls with federal govt due to an ordinance from 80s
Could care less if Naan serving politician spent rest of his live in London, Raiwind or Jail as long as he is never allowed to be part of Pakistan's politics. Money will not be recovered - any politician claiming it to recovered is just doing pre-election talking point.
PML-N and PPP are dying a slow death, most are unable to see it, as Pakistanis become more socially connected and are more aware of their rights as it already gradually happening, politician such as Zardari and NS will have no roll in Pakistan's politics despite how many promises IK has failed to complete, IK still a better PM if one were to focus on long term goals.
Billo won't be the PM
The singer aka Junaid won't be the PM.
Showbaz won't be the PM.
Calibri aunty too 'smart' to be PM of any kindergarten class.
MQM is history
PML-N and PPP will be if PTI elected in next election.
Interesting that you call him idiot for showing humanity to a crook that complained that he was dying . So what do you calm the media, the Judiciary and Billo,who all told us that the guy was dying when they knew he wasn't. Are you saying all these institutions are corrupt and the judges and journalists need to be arrested for being brought off.
the pm who said he wont give nros ended up doing exactly that by allowing the guy run away from the country.
Humanity?plz, do you seriously believe that?
In politics you dont need to be at the front all the time. There is a concept called just sit back survive. Thats what PPP has been doing lately and will continue to do. If PMLN or PPP were dying a slow death than they would had never had seats in the Senate. PMLN and PPP combined have more seats than PTI in the senate, so plz explain to us the logic how these two parties are dying a slow death?
Also, for the elections, you dont win only on popularity. The electables play a big role who will sit with any party they deem is more powerful.
There is a high possibility PTI could lose the upcoming elections if its free and fair as everyone is angry and unhappy with the false promises that were made and at the end got more inflation. If Coco Khan is to lose the elections it would only be because he contradicted himself during the election campaign he did. He did all those things or all those things happened that he used to criticize the last govt in power for.
Interestingly, the upcoming elections dont even matter. It means nothing whether PTI, PMLN, PPP or some coalition comes in. Infact, any political party who wins the election is not an issue. Democracy needs to exists thats it.
Because the real elections are the 2028 elections. Imran, Zardari and Nawaz Shareef won't be part of that. Imran is the oldest of them all and he is offcourse not gonna be part of that election. Most of our politicians from the 80s would be retiring, too old to perform duties and some would be passing away.
The next in line are the likes of Bilalwal, Maryam etc. Infact Bilawal is still young and that is why he considered a future leader.
PTI could be in an identity crises after Imran Khan leaves as they dont have anyone to field as the chairman of the party or the face of the party to win an election.
Maybe the sons of Jehangir Tareen would be bought in, but even they are now thinking about joining PMLN if the rumors are true.
PMLN and PPP are not going anywhere, its PTI that could be. In politics, survability is an art itself and for the survival or the hibernation period PTI (if it would still exist) would have to fine a new face to help the party to survive. It is highly luckily maybe Murad Saeed is handed over the party reigns.....
2028 would be a new start of Pakistani politics. New faces would be coming in. Thus, to claim that so and so party is nearing its end is an immature statement.
PPP survived Zia forgodsakes.. The current scenarios are nothing compare to what Zia was upto. Youngsters today joke about "Bhutto Zinda hai" as they dont know the history of Pakistan and tha historical context of this nara. Zia wanted to eliminate the ideology of Bhutto as the guy had crazy support in Pakistan. Even after being released from jail on false charges those train marches exposed how he was still loved by the people which is what lead to Zia hanging him. The idea was to eliminate Bhutto ideology forever. They even killed the sons. Yet, somehow the party has survived (even though the country had to deal with AZ) and hopefully the socialist ideology would revive back.
Parties dont die just like that nowadays![]()
By the time 'youngsta' generation who were born with silver spoon get a chance, the Pakistan we know will be a different Pakistan, you just have to open your eyes to see it, especially if PTI were to get elected again, they will have no chance.
PPP and PML is a political party to protect and serve the emperor and the party of emperors are dying a slow death - what narrative are they going to run on? economy (lol), abba was disqualified (lol), military coup (not happening).
If PTI were to get elected again then all of them are history, they can survive as much as they want but they will be reduced to have minimal influence.
The whole scam was done to coincide with the fake Mullahs Azadi movement, the corrupt courts gave bail to the corrupt father and daughter. I wish the IK stops pandering to these crooks and shows them that they are just common criminals and dont deserve any special treatment. IK cannot control life and death and if he dies in jail, he wont be the 1st or last.
It is difficult to comment without examining the report. However, bone marrow biopsy can lead to excessive bleeding in patients with low platelets, plus it can lead to heart problems which Nawaz has a history of.
Considering his present state and history, the chances of complications are quite high.
Rather than making silly statements lets stick to the topic shall we? You didn't answer my question. Based on history, Nawaz Sharif came back from London last time around to face jail. So what is your opinion based on that we will not return?
By the time 'youngsta' generation who were born with silver spoon get a chance, the Pakistan we know will be a different Pakistan, you just have to open your eyes to see it, especially if PTI were to get elected again, they will have no chance.
PPP and PML is a political party to protect and serve the emperor and the party of emperors are dying a slow death - what narrative are they going to run on? economy (lol), abba was disqualified (lol), military coup (not happening).
If PTI were to get elected again then all of them are history, they can survive as much as they want but they will be reduced to have minimal influence.
In politics you dont need to be at the front all the time. There is a concept called just sit back survive. Thats what PPP has been doing lately and will continue to do. If PMLN or PPP were dying a slow death than they would had never had seats in the Senate. PMLN and PPP combined have more seats than PTI in the senate, so plz explain to us the logic how these two parties are dying a slow death?
Also, for the elections, you dont win only on popularity. The electables play a big role who will sit with any party they deem is more powerful.
There is a high possibility PTI could lose the upcoming elections if its free and fair as everyone is angry and unhappy with the false promises that were made and at the end got more inflation. If Coco Khan is to lose the elections it would only be because he contradicted himself during the election campaign he did. He did all those things or all those things happened that he used to criticize the last govt in power for.
Interestingly, the upcoming elections dont even matter. It means nothing whether PTI, PMLN, PPP or some coalition comes in. Infact, any political party who wins the election is not an issue. Democracy needs to exists thats it.
Because the real elections are the 2028 elections. Imran, Zardari and Nawaz Shareef won't be part of that. Imran is the oldest of them all and he is offcourse not gonna be part of that election. Most of our politicians from the 80s would be retiring, too old to perform duties and some would be passing away.
The next in line are the likes of Bilalwal, Maryam etc. Infact Bilawal is still young and that is why he considered a future leader.
PTI could be in an identity crises after Imran Khan leaves as they dont have anyone to field as the chairman of the party or the face of the party to win an election.
Maybe the sons of Jehangir Tareen would be bought in, but even they are now thinking about joining PMLN if the rumors are true.
PMLN and PPP are not going anywhere, its PTI that could be. In politics, survability is an art itself and for the survival or the hibernation period PTI (if it would still exist) would have to fine a new face to help the party to survive. It is highly luckily maybe Murad Saeed is handed over the party reigns.....
2028 would be a new start of Pakistani politics. New faces would be coming in. Thus, to claim that so and so party is nearing its end is an immature statement.
PPP survived Zia forgodsakes.. The current scenarios are nothing compare to what Zia was upto. Youngsters today joke about "Bhutto Zinda hai" as they dont know the history of Pakistan and tha historical context of this nara. Zia wanted to eliminate the ideology of Bhutto as the guy had crazy support in Pakistan. Even after being released from jail on false charges those train marches exposed how he was still loved by the people which is what lead to Zia hanging him. The idea was to eliminate Bhutto ideology forever. They even killed the sons. Yet, somehow the party has survived (even though the country had to deal with AZ) and hopefully the socialist ideology would revive back.
Parties dont die just like that nowadays![]()
Well it's not an NRO because if it was NS wouldn't be ******** bricks in fear of going back to jail. IK should have never backed down from the mafia. But once again you are running from your hypocrisy, why did the likes of Billo, Hamid Mir( remember what he said), Minullah, the LHC said at the time? I guarantee my last penny that you agreed with them at the time. If you didn't agree with them, paste a link hear. Thought not.
You missed the whole point of the post
PTI most likely won't get elected or they might with very thin margin, that is what PPP and PML are banking on to survive.
Billo, The singer, and Nani Calibri is the future of Pakistan?
Surviving.
To that I replied - none of the 3 will ever be PM of Pakistan.
I hails from Sindh, do visit, Billo has no future in Sindh politics.
And again you missed the point being addressed.
If democracy exists till 2028, than the 2028 elections and the campaign for it would be one of the biggest as the class of 80s will be dead or reitiring. Coco khan is older than nawaz and AZ. All three wont be part of the pm elections by than.
New faces would be emerging and those faces are the ones we already know. From pmln its going to come from the family. From ppp it could be bilalwal or someone from the party. We have had Yousuf raza gillani as pm in past.
Right now its about surviving by just sitting back.
Why won't democracy exist in 2028, what are the indication that it won't, existing family dynastic political leaders are useless on arrival in 2028.
Of course, IK won't be running for the PM, that does not leave the vacuum that Pakistan is left with to only elect Billo, The singer and Nani Calibri.
You really dont know the Pakistani politics looks like..
We have had millitary coups and we are long due one. There had been rumors back in 2011 and in 2016 or 18 of such a thing happening.
If you knew Pakistani politics, you would know that as soon as PMLN last the general elections, they did the dramaybazi that we wont accept the results but accepted the results the next day. The reason for that is to make sure that democracy stays and the millitary doesnt end up doing a coup as its a lose lose for all...
2028 is going to be a big year, and there is a posibility that a millitary coup could come in place to make sure the new faces dont come.
Just because you dont like someone doesnt mean they wont get elected or cant. 2028 is going to be historical elections.
LAHORE: The latest medical report of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif has been submitted to the Lahore High Court (LHC), according to which the doctors have advised him to not travel, Geo News reported Tuesday.
The report has been prepared by the Director of Interventional Cardiology Dr Fayaz Shawl which was submitted to the court through advocate Amjad Pervez.
According to the report, Nawaz Sharif should stay in London until his angiography as it could worsen his condition.
The report further said that Sharif should continue his medication and take walks in the fresh air, adding that, “he should take precautionary measures to protect himself from COVID-19 and should refrain from travelling or visiting crowded places as the virus can have severe effects on him due to his heart condition”.
The report also revealed that the PML-N supremo is under severe stress after the death of his wife Kulsoom Nawaz and he is directed to continue activities without any mental stress.
Nawaz Sharif had started taking Empagliflozin 10mg to control his diabetes which has affected his kidneys; therefore, his condition is to be taken seriously, said the report.
In the report, Dr Shawl said that he can be contacted in case any questions arise regarding Sharif’s report.
Such medical reports make mockery of judicial system, laws: Chaudhry
On the other hand, the Minister of Information and Broadcasting Fawad Chaudhry called Sharif's report "interesting".
Talking about the report, he said that the doctor living in Washington has prepared a report about Nawaz, who is in London.
He took a dig at the ex-PM and said that the doctor living in a different country has reported that Nawaz is unable to travel, adding that "such medical reports make a mockery of the judicial system and laws".
Chaudhry called the report "fake" and said that Nawaz Sharif has an easy way out which is to return the money of Pakistani citizens and stay in London as "sending such fake reports will not help him".
He said that the only thing the report lacked was that Nawaz Sharif should only walk in Hyde Park.
The minister said that the Sharif family is sending a bunch of fake reports. "Hopefully the court will take notice of the fake report," he added.
A timeline of Nawaz Sharif's case
On the night between October 21 and 22, 2019, Nawaz Sharif's condition deteriorated and he was shifted to a hospital.
On October 25, Nawaz Sharif was granted bail on medical grounds in the Chaudhry Sugar Mills case.
On October 26, Nawaz Sharif was granted interim bail on humanitarian grounds in the Al-Azizia reference.
On October 26, Nawaz Sharif suffered a mild heart attack, Punjab Health Minister Yasmeen Rashid confirmed the development.
On October 29, Nawaz Sharif's sentence was suspended for two months on medical grounds in the Al-Azizia reference.
He was discharged from Nawaz Sharif Services Hospital and was shifted to Jati Umra.
On November 8, Shahbaz Sharif requested the Interior Ministry to remove Nawaz Sharif's name from the Exit Control List (ECL).
On November 12, the federal cabinet gave Nawaz Sharif conditional permission to leave the country.
On November 14, the PML-N challenged the condition of indemnity bond in the Lahore High Court.
On November 16, the Lahore High Court allowed Nawaz Sharif to go abroad for medical treatment.
On November 19, 2019, Nawaz Sharif left for London for his treatment.
GEO
Nawaz hai Diabetes. Report says kidney compromised, so likely diabetic nephropathy.
Now he is advised angiography, but if dye is injected, it may worsen the kidney function and he may land up with dialysis dependency.
So who will decide if he will undergo angiography or not?
Aise kaise hoga?
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
[MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION]
Nawaz hai Diabetes. Report says kidney compromised, so likely diabetic nephropathy.
Now he is advised angiography, but if dye is injected, it may worsen the kidney function and he may land up with dialysis dependency.
So who will decide if he will undergo angiography or not?
Aise kaise hoga?
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
[MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION]