Nearly 80% of divorced Indian Muslims are women

[tomato]

In India, for every divorced Muslim man, there are four divorced Muslim women, an analysis of Census 2011 data shows.

Across religious communities, except Sikhs, there are more divorced women than men. But the gender skew is particularly sharp among Muslims (79:21), followed by 'other religions' (72:28), and Buddhists (70:30).

Among divorced Indian women, 68 per cent are Hindu, and 23.3 per cent, Muslims, according to Census 2011 data on the marital status of Indians. The data were recently cited by Muslim groups protesting the Law Commission's formulation of a Uniform Civil Code, especially a ban on triple talaq.


http://wap.business-standard.com/ar...-indian-muslims-are-women-116102000646_1.html

 

[PakLFC]

Divorce goes both ways. If a lady is divorced then surely her ex spouse is as well!!!? Don't understand how only the lady can be divorced.

 

[tomato]

Divorce goes both ways. If a lady is divorced then surely her ex spouse is as well!!!? Don't understand how only the lady can be divorced.

It's simple man married again while woman still single.

 

[Specialisttailender]

Divorce goes both ways. If a lady is divorced then surely her ex spouse is as well!!!? Don't understand how only the lady can be divorced.

Divorced husbands ends up marrying unmarried women but divorced women is left single forever. No body wants to marry a divorced woman. This is more to do with Indian culture.

 

[tomato]

Divorced husbands ends up marrying unmarried women but divorced women is left single forever. No body wants to marry a divorced woman. This is more to do with Indian culture.

There is one more thing man may have 3 or 4 wives so if he divorce 3 of them he will still remain husband but those 3 woman will be divorced.

 

[Hornbill]

I think Muslim men are misusing their right to give instantaneous talaq.

 

[PakLFC]

Divorced husbands ends up marrying unmarried women but divorced women is left single forever. No body wants to marry a divorced woman. This is more to do with Indian culture.

Oh okay I get you now. Maybe this is the case in India that Muslim women are not remarrying for whatever reason. Generally, in Muslim society as a whole many Muslim women do remarry and rightly so as everyone deserves a second chance.

 

[Madplayer]

Has anyone read the book how to lie with statistics? Its a good book.

The statistics given in the OP doesnt say much regarding the condition of muslim women in India as far as divorce is concerned. 80% of muslim divorcees are muslim women but how many muslim divorces take place in the first place?

If there are 100 hindu divorcees in total, and 50 among them are women and 50 are men, the percentage of women divorcees would be 50% which sounds reasonably good. But if there is a total of just 10 muslim divorcees, and 8 among them are women and 2 are men, it sounds horrendous because the percentage of divorced women is 80%.

This is misleading. Nobody looks at the bigger picture that the rate of divorces among hindus or christians can be higher. In above case, 100 against just 10. Or say 1000 against 80 and so on. Now i know population of hindus is more so there will be more divorces but we are talking about divorce rates here not the number of divorces.

I dont know the numbers, i acknowledge that but i'm just raising a question that such statistics can be highly misleading.


I looked up the internet and found this.

Divorce rate among Muslims low compared to other communities: Report

https://www.google.co.in/amp/indian...red-to-other-communities-report-4605196/lite/


The validity of this research is questionable for some but the data collected is through the use of RTIs. Dont even look at the validity of such a thing for a moment, just see how statistics can be used to create a desired impression in your mind.

 

[tomato]

Has anyone read the book how to lie with statistics? Its a good book.

The statistics given in the OP doesnt say much regarding the condition of muslim women in India as far as divorce is concerned. 80% of muslim divorcees are muslim women but how many muslim divorces take place in the first place?

If there are 100 hindu divorcees in total, and 50 among them are women and 50 are men, the percentage of women divorcees would be 50% which sounds reasonably good. But if there is a total of just 10 muslim divorcees, and 8 among them are women and 2 are men, it sounds horrendous because the percentage of divorced women is 80%.

This is misleading. Nobody looks at the bigger picture that the rate of divorces among hindus or christians can be higher. In above case, 100 against just 10. Or say 1000 against 80 and so on. Now i know population of hindus is more so there will be more divorces but we are talking about divorce rates here not the number of divorces.

I dont know the numbers, i acknowledge that but i'm just raising a question that such statistics can be highly misleading.


I looked up the internet and found this.

Divorce rate among Muslims low compared to other communities: Report

https://www.google.co.in/amp/indian...red-to-other-communities-report-4605196/lite/


The validity of this research is questionable for some but the data collected is through the use of RTIs. Dont even look at the validity of such a thing for a moment, just see how statistics can be used to create a desired impression in your mind.

So we should just believe All India Muslim Personal Law Board which is opposing cancellation of TTT.Nice story.

 

[Madplayer]

So we should just believe All India Muslim Personal Law Board which is opposing cancellation of TTT.Nice story.

Expected reply from a poster who dedicates all his time on PP to highlight everything muslims around the world in general and subcontinent in particular do. First understand what i was saying before replying with gibberish.

 

[JaDed]

Has anyone read the book how to lie with statistics? Its a good book.

The statistics given in the OP doesnt say much regarding the condition of muslim women in India as far as divorce is concerned. 80% of muslim divorcees are muslim women but how many muslim divorces take place in the first place?

If there are 100 hindu divorcees in total, and 50 among them are women and 50 are men, the percentage of women divorcees would be 50% which sounds reasonably good. But if there is a total of just 10 muslim divorcees, and 8 among them are women and 2 are men, it sounds horrendous because the percentage of divorced women is 80%.

This is misleading. Nobody looks at the bigger picture that the rate of divorces among hindus or christians can be higher. In above case, 100 against just 10. Or say 1000 against 80 and so on. Now i know population of hindus is more so there will be more divorces but we are talking about divorce rates here not the number of divorces.

I dont know the numbers, i acknowledge that but i'm just raising a question that such statistics can be highly misleading.


I looked up the internet and found this.

Divorce rate among Muslims low compared to other communities: Report

https://www.google.co.in/amp/indian...red-to-other-communities-report-4605196/lite/


The validity of this research is questionable for some but the data collected is through the use of RTIs. Dont even look at the validity of such a thing for a moment, just see how statistics can be used to create a desired impression in your mind.

From the article.

Asma Zohra said the women are well protected under Islam which is reflected from the low percentage of Muslim women seeking divorce

See how its being presented by here as well,considering your logic lying with statistics there are so many flaws in her statement,which doesn't take into account multiple things.

Do agree the way BJP is going about Triple talaq is stupid,they want to abolish triple talaq without uniform civil code because then based on law they wouldn't be able to ban beef but if women within Muslim community want the abolishing of the law don't think the men should deny them as its a very just request.

 

[tomato]

Expected reply from a poster who dedicates all his time on PP to highlight everything muslims around the world in general and subcontinent in particular do. First understand what i was saying before replying with gibberish.

So problem faced woman should not be highlighted because they are Muslims no wonder AIMPLB have so much support.

You said statistics posted in OP is lie when it's based on 2011 census data but then gives a stat from same organisation which is against banning TTT how does this even work? Atleast provide a stat from some neutral source to counter arguments.

 

[msb314]

In India, for every divorced Muslim man, there are four divorced Muslim women, an analysis of Census 2011 data shows.

Across religious communities, except Sikhs, there are more divorced women than men. But the gender skew is particularly sharp among Muslims (79:21), followed by 'other religions' (72:28), and Buddhists (70:30).

Among divorced Indian women, 68 per cent are Hindu, and 23.3 per cent, Muslims, according to Census 2011 data on the marital status of Indians. The data were recently cited by Muslim groups protesting the Law Commission's formulation of a Uniform Civil Code, especially a ban on triple talaq.


http://wap.business-standard.com/ar...-indian-muslims-are-women-116102000646_1.html

Divorce goes both ways. If a lady is divorced then surely her ex spouse is as well!!!? Don't understand how only the lady can be divorced.

haha I was thinking that too.

The ratio should be 50:50.

unless you can lesbian marriages - which would be very unlikely in the muslim community in India.

 

[msb314]

Divorced husbands ends up marrying unmarried women but divorced women is left single forever. No body wants to marry a divorced woman. This is more to do with Indian culture.

A divorce is not a status that changes over time but is more of a permanent mark.

I can marry 1000 times but if I was divorced even once.- I am still a divorcee that will be brought up in many conversations in my family and friends.

Married or single - you still remain a divorcee.

 

[tomato]

haha I was thinking that too.

The ratio should be 50:50.

unless you can lesbian marriages - which would be very unlikely in the muslim community in India.

But marrying multiple women is pretty common among Muslim men in India(I know such people near my place)

 

[tomato]

A divorce is not a status that changes over time but is more of a permanent mark.

I can marry 1000 times but if I was divorced even once.- I am still a divorcee that will be brought up in many conversations in my family and friends.

Married or single - you still remain a divorcee.

That's just theoretical status but in real life they are still married to someone while opposite is not true for woman.

 

[msb314]

That's just theoretical status but in real life they are still married to someone while opposite is not true for woman.

Yes I see your point.

The article was a bit confusing and misleading.

 

[tomato]

Yes I see your point.

The article was a bit confusing and misleading.

From mathematical point yes it's misleading but people who know ground reality instantly recognises the real issue.

 

[Madplayer]

From the article.

See how its being presented by here as well,considering your logic lying with statistics there are so many flaws in her statement,which doesn't take into account multiple things.

Do agree the way BJP is going about Triple talaq is stupid,they want to abolish triple talaq without uniform civil code because then based on law they wouldn't be able to ban beef but if women within Muslim community want the abolishing of the law don't think the men should deny them as its a very just request.

That is what i am saying. It can be done by anyone and it is dangerous in current Indian scenario where people are adding fuel to fire just to stay in power.

Re your second paragraph, I agree but the situation BJP has CREATED now, i dont think it would be wise to go ahead with TT ban. It has reached a point where muslims would feel antagonised. It can be wrapped around with by-laws which would discourage it though.

 

[Specialisttailender]

A divorce is not a status that changes over time but is more of a permanent mark.

I can marry 1000 times but if I was divorced even once.- I am still a divorcee that will be brought up in many conversations in my family and friends.

Married or single - you still remain a divorcee.

Different rules apply for different gender.

 

[Specialisttailender]

Oh okay I get you now. Maybe this is the case in India that Muslim women are not remarrying for whatever reason. Generally, in Muslim society as a whole many Muslim women do remarry and rightly so as everyone deserves a second chance.

Yup culturally, Indian women must be fresh or she is not good enough. You'll never see a Bollywood movie where a girl might have multiple boy friends or partners but guys will and that is okay.

 

[tomato]

That is what i am saying. It can be done by anyone and it is dangerous in current Indian scenario where people are adding fuel to fire just to stay in power.

Re your second paragraph, I agree but the situation BJP has CREATED now, i dont think it would be wise to go ahead with TT ban. It has reached a point where muslims would feel antagonised. It can be wrapped around with by-laws which would discourage it though.

The usual trope of bringing BJP as bogeyman to justify continuing this atrocity which is banned in Muslim countries as well.

 

[Madplayer]

The usual trope of bringing BJP as bogeyman to justify continuing this atrocity which is banned in Muslim countries as well.

Putting baseless allegations on others like usual.
The usual bhakt logic of ignoring that these "reforms" are taken just to appease hindu majority driven by hindu extremism and not due to some sudden change of heart. Why doesnt the government see problems Hindu couples face due to allowing restriction of marriage as per gotra in Hindu marriage act? How many have suffered , how many butchered because of this belief? I'm all for these reforms and triple talaq should be banned if thats what concerned women want, no questions asked. But such reforms should take place among all communities so that confidence is built among minorities.

 

[Madplayer]

So problem faced woman should not be highlighted because they are Muslims no wonder AIMPLB have so much support.

You said statistics posted in OP is lie when it's based on 2011 census data but then gives a stat from same organisation which is against banning TTT how does this even work? Atleast provide a stat from some neutral source to counter arguments.

"Problems" of all women and men should be addressed and not just muslims. And What is AIMPLB?

I never said statistics posted in OP are a lie. Quote me where i have said this please.

So i cannot quote a stat from a source just because they are against triple talaq even if the stats are acquired via filing RTIs. And why am i even saying this. The validity of the stats wasnt even the point i was trying to make. I just meant anyone can use these stats to mislead.