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New Zealand (111/2) defeat India (110/7) by 8 wickets to put the Men in Blue on the brink of exit

I hate UAE pitches however, a world class attack can't have 1 wicket to show for in 2 games.
 
I was hoping for a good game. Used to like India a lot early 2000s-07
 
Mas-LFC said:
Bangladesh and India two neighbours heading home early. India was one of the favourites. Lots of changes needed both sides, captain change.
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what in the world was bangladesh thinking giving mahmadullah the captaincy? he looks even more clueless than kohli. the man looks completely hapless out there
 
After taking just the 1 wicket and barely scoring any runs against major cricket nations - should India be classed as a minnow and go through qualification for the next major ICC event?
 
FM87 said:
The defeat against Pak has completely demoralised them.
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At International level you cannot get demoralized by one defeat , its part and parcel of the game. This same team came back to win Test in Australia after being all out for 36
 
Mas-LFC said:
IPL destroyed them. Since IPL easy paisa money India won Zero T20 WC
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You have a good point.

India haven't won any ICC trophy since 2013.

I feel Kohli's captaincy hasn't been good in LOI formats. Dhoni was better.

They need a change in captaincy.
 
Tough loss and tourney for India.

Just a bad run. They’ll bounce back. It happens to all teams. Can’t always be elite every tourney. They’re class. We know this.
 
Kohli can save himself from attending the post match presser. He can just play the recording from the Pakistan match. :)))
 
Happy Diwali in advance to my Indian friends. Your boys put up a gallant fight, but just came up short.
 
India has an outside chance, if Afghans beat Kiwis , and India win remaining matches with big margin.
 
WOW lol.. IPL heroes really suck..... Ah well... They had a chance to win the series in ENG but post poned it for IPL, serves BCCI right.. Hopefully they lose the next one against Namibia :)))
 
If afghan beats nz it's done. Even if they share 6points each I don't c India having a better nrr than Afghanistan!
 
It's Afghanistan chance to shine . If they somehow manage to defeat kiwis . It will be huge for afghan cricket . Although kiwis look champion team but Afghanistan can certainly win .they need to believe
 
New Zealand produced a stunning bowling display to beat India by eight wickets and get their ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2021 campaign up and running.

Both India and New Zealand had lost their opening Super 12s matches to Pakistan and came into this one knowing that defeat would leave their hopes of reaching the semi-final hanging by a thread.

Kane Williamson won the toss and put India in, but despite how well teams chasing have done in this tournament, even the most optimistic of Black Caps fans would not have expected to see them claim such a dominant success.

Trent Boult started the carnage, eventually finishing with figures of three for 20, and as Indian batters picked out the fielders on the boundary with regularity, they were only able to make 110 for seven.

That was never likely to be enough and Daryl Mitchell ensured it was the case with a quickfire 49, ably supported by his captain who finished the job off with an unbeaten 33.

India had brought in Ishan Kishan and Shardul Thakur, with the former promoted to open, but he was Boult’s first victim, clipping the ball off his toes straight down the throat of Mitchell for four.

Adam Milne put Rohit Sharma down next ball, before going for 15 off his first over, but that was a rare high point for India.

KL Rahul was dismissed by the penultimate delivery of the powerplay, hooking but again picking out Mitchell in the deep as he departed for 18 with India 35 for two.

Rohit was joined by Virat Kohli but Ish Sodhi removed them both as shots to long-on fell into the hands of the fielders. At 48 for four, India were in all sorts of trouble and while Rishabh Pant and Hardik Pandya consolidated, they did so at the expense of the scoring rate as India went 71 balls without a boundary.

Pant eventually fell to Milne, a wild swipe at one coming back seeing him cleaned up. And while Pandya did manage end the boundary drought, he fell for 23 as he became the latest player to find the fielder on the boundary, Martin Guptill taking his second catch of the innings.

He added another, again off Boult as Thakur went for a duck, and despite Ravindra Jadeja’s efforts late on, making an unbeaten 26, India were well short of par.

In reply, Guptill began positively in making 20 before he fell to Jasprit Bumrah, the pick of the Indian bowlers.

But the low total meant that Mitchell and Williamson could just take their time. That is not the style of the former though, and he hit four fours and three sixes before getting caught by Rahul off Bumrah with 15 still to get.

Williamson was never troubled though and saw his side home comfortably.

With this win, New Zealand helped their net run-rate as they look to put pressure on Afghanistan in the race for a semi-final spot, with the pair set to meet in each team's final game of the Super 12.

India, meanwhile, are now relying on other results if they are to make the semi-finals, with a clash against Afghanistan next up in Abu Dhabi on Wednesday.

Scores in brief

New Zealand beat India at Dubai International Cricket Stadium, Dubai by eight wickets
India 110/7, in 20 overs (Ravindra Jadeja 26, Hardik Pandya 23; Trent Boult 3/20, Ish Sodhi 2/17)
New Zealand 111/2, in 14.3 overs (Daryl Mitchell 49, Kane Williamson 33 not out; Jasprit Bumrah 2/19, Mohammed Shami 0/11)
Player of the Match: Ish Sodhi (New Zealand)
 
I was annoyed when New Zealand pulled out of Pakistan tour but all is forgiven.NZ best India which made my day.Congratulations to NZ.It is the best talented team considering it has a pop of only 5m.
 
It's supposed to be Halloween tonight but instead of terrifying us with their destructive play, India has given us all a good laugh with their comedy gold performances. :yk
 
Jasprit Bumrah in the post-match press conference:

Q. How do you explain your batting display? Conditions were obviously challenging. How do you eventually explain such a batting experience?

JASPRIT BUMRAH: I think as a batting unit what we were trying to do is that we know in the second innings dew does play a massive factor. We tried to give us some cushion.

We wanted to get extra runs that could give us an advantage in the second innings. I think in that process we played a lot of attacking shorts, attacking options. That didn't come off today.

So I think that was the approach as a batting unit that was going on because in the second innings, batting does get easier. So we wanted to give that cushion to the bowlers. I think that was the thought process. I think in that thought process I think there were a lot of attack issues.

Q. After a defeat like this, two defeats, how do you keep yourself balanced and stay strong?

JASPRIT BUMRAH: As a sportsman, you face a lot of days in cricket. Some days will be good and some days would be bad. What I try to do is not get very high when good days happen and not get very low when low days happen.

All of these things are always are part and parcel of a cricketer's life. Try to stay in the moment, analyse what went wrong, what went well and try to move forward. That's the only way that you can move forward in this game.

Q. Just now in the presentation, it was said that the batsmen weren't brave enough starting the innings. And given the bowling attack, you've led this bowling attack for two years, and you have built this team out over and over again. So what kind of discussions do you have with the batsmen? They feel the pressure obviously that they need to give the cushion to you. So what kind of discussions do you have with the batsmen?

JASPRIT BUMRAH: We don't have discussions. I'm not here trying to teach what the batsmen should do. But what we were focusing, as I told before as well, that we realised that once you lose the toss, the wicket changes in the second innings.

So obviously I felt that we wanted to give the cushion, and it was a discussion that we want to give the cushion to the bowlers. And that happened.

So in that I think we went attacking a little early. And the longer boundaries actually came into play. They used their slower balls where they used the wicket quite well to their advantage and they made it difficult for our batters to play the big shots.

Because the singles were not there on the offer, so they were playing attacking shots. High risk shots were always there. I think that was the summary of what happened today. And that's for everyone to see.

Q. There's been IPL, and after IPL the T20 World Cup, there's a very short turnaround. So many matches inside the bubble. Do you think fatigue also creeps in when you are playing so many matches together and the duration, six months you're out on the road, so does that have an effect back of the mind?

JASPRIT BUMRAH: Absolutely. Sometimes you need a break. You miss your family sometimes. You've been on the road for six months. So all of that sometimes play on the back of your mind. But when you're on the field, you don't think of all those things. You don't control a lot of things, how the scheduling goes on or what tournament is played when.

So obviously staying in a bubble and staying away from your family for such a long period of time does play a role on the player's mind as well.

But they also tried their best to make us feel comfortable. But this is the time which we're living in right now. It's a difficult time. There's a pandemic going on. So we try to adapt. But sometimes bubble fatigue, mental fatigue also creeps in, that you're doing the same thing again and again and again.

So it is the way it is, and you can't control a lot of it here.

Q. Do you feel Ashwin's experience could have made a difference?

JASPRIT BUMRAH: In hindsight, we could say a lot of things. In hindsight we wish we could have scored a lot more runs, got a lot more wickets. But now looking at it, that obviously, he's an experienced bowler. Obviously he adds a lot of value to the bowling attack whenever he comes.

But in hindsight it's very difficult because as I told you, there's dew in second innings. When the ball doesn't grip. So the options become very difficult, very rare and very little for the bowlers to the margin of error goes down.

In hindsight you might say that, okay, might have made a difference but it's too difficult to judge that right now.

Q. You spoke about getting those 20, 30 runs while batting first. But as a bowler, when opposition is also in the same position, is it easier for the batsmen to get those 20, 30 runs on these pitches, because these are mostly two-paced and stuff?

JASPRIT BUMRAH: It's not very easy. But that is the challenge that you'll have to take extra responsibility. That was the communication. Obviously it's difficult. That's why everybody was playing an evening game is choosing to bowl first, because there's a massive difference. So we understand that. We knew that. And our batters did understand that they have to give the cushion if they're batting first.

So they tried their best. Obviously it didn't come off today. But the communication was clear and everybody knew what the situation of the game is and where they're heading.
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Our fake heroes got exposed...Rohit and Kohli should retire in t20s ;pant doesn't have game sense in shorter format....he should stop one handed show sixes and reverse sweep ...overall stop ipl for 2yrs....cash rich players forgot how to perform in international matches..
 
At the risk of sounding arrogant (not the intention) - my overriding thoughts after the last two India games are :

- India are actually a pretty poor side and hugely overrated in white ball cricket (and waiting to be found out in test ball cricket but one has to concede they are the 2nd best test team after Kiwis)

- One of the worst bowling attacks I have seen in any international ODI side (Bangladesh and associates aside) for many years. Bhumra looks 'OK' nothing special. The rest are an absolute joke.

- The batting is overated. Kohli is done. Sharma is done. KL, Pant, Pandya all very overated.

This is not a gloating thread. Pakistan are no great shakes. India are simply a poor, overated team.
 
India needed Shikhar Dhawan. He may not be as blessed as Rohit and Kohli when it comes to pure talent but he more than makes up for it with his champion mindset. He's been India's highest scorer in World Cups and Champion Trophies since 2013.
 
Ish Sodhi in the post-match conference:

Q. Was the team surprised to see India field a different opening combination? And how did your plans in the powerplay change for that?

ISH SODHI: I think the change to the team was something that we found out quite late. Ishan Kishan has obviously been in great form. So we had to think on our feet, which I think the powerplay bowlers did exceptionally well in doing.

You have to be able to think on your feet. As a team, we speak a lot about depth to conditions. That's a big thing that we try to pride ourselves on. I think when you're faced with circumstances like that, to be able to respond quickly is a great test of character. And I thought the bowlers did that really well in the powerplay today.

Q. That's some way to celebrate.

ISH SODHI: Yeah, cool way to spend your birthday. You spend so much time of your season all year away from friends and family. And so I guess to have a day like that and beat a top quality side like India is pretty cool.

Q. There's images of you and Santner kind of just smiling whilst Daryl Mitchell was knocking the runs off. Is that a relationship that's kind of blossomed over time? How is it especially bowling in the middle overs? You really struggled when you're down.

ISH SODHI: I think off the pitch we have a great relationship. Very good mates. We've played a lot of cricket together now. But I think on the pitch, the way that he bowled today, four overs through the middle. One of those in the powerplay, to create the pressure that he did and do some false strokes, I think a lot of us bowlers benefit a lot from the pressure that he puts on through that middle period. And that can definitely never go unnoticed.

Q. Possibly a word on Daryl Mitchell, a week ago he never opened in a T20.

ISH SODHI: I think that's phenomenal. Just speaking to him then, it was his second game opening the batting in Twenty20 professional cricket. Facing one of the best bowling attacks in the world. And it's a huge testament to his character, and the backing he's receiving from our camp, believe in his ability immensely. It was never going to be an easy chase. They're always going to come out, be aggressive with the ball.

The conditions, we didn't quite know how they were going to play. The way that he played that game was definitely the icing on the cake.

Q. Traditionally India are considered excellent players of spin. And for you and Mitch Santner to win again after having done so a few years ago, how special is that?

ISH SODHI: It's very special. I think you can often get caught in that trap of the expectations. We played a great game against some in the 2016 World Cup, but when you say 2016 it's five years ago.

We change. A lot of players change. Strategies change. I think T20 cricket in general has changed a lot even in that time. But I think looking back at tonight especially, I go back to the amount of pressure that was created by Mitch.

And also the powerplay bowlers for keeping it really tight. And Trent Boult and Tim Southee, obviously stalwarts in New Zealand cricket. But I thought Adam Milne had a tough over but he came back exceptionally well and finished with some pretty good figures on that wicket.

I think as a collective, the team bowling performance was a pretty good one.

Q. You told us about adapting to the conditions. But bowling first, bowling second, how would you say that you can add up to -- can you answer it in Hindi, is it possible?

ISH SODHI: My Hindi is going to be tested. I think if my mom's watching this and I say something slightly wrong, she'll give me a hard time about it. So I'll answer in English this time around. Hopefully I can develop my Hindi bit of it.

I think adapting to conditions is a big thing we speak about a lot. And I think the thing that we had to judge was the last couple of games that have been played in the Dubai stadium.

I think with the bubble life, usually you've got a chance to look at the conditions or come and see the ground before you actually get a chance to play. But today was the first time we ventured into this ground.

So a lot of our understanding of the conditions has been from watching other games. Last night I think it was a game of two halves. It looked reasonably tough to score in the first innings. But I don't know whether there was dew, much of a factor of dew out there. But I thought England batted exceptionally well on that wicket to score the runs as quickly as they did.

We were a little unsure what the wicket would play like. I guess bowling first gives you a chance to understand that a little bit better than bowling second.

I think you just have to be really conscious of the boundary sizes. Often even in the first innings, you get caught up sometimes if you've got them a few wickets of over-attacking.

With the quality of batsmen the Indian team have, someone like Rishabh Pant can take the game away from you within two or three overs. So you have to be really conscious about what your defensive options are as well as being aggressive through the middle. But when you've got a bigger side to work with, I think you try to get them to hit the ball there as much as you can.

Q. You've played a lot of T20s, a lot of World Cup matches now. How up did the team feel for this one compared to all the matches you've played in the past?

ISH SODHI: I think the boys held their composure really well. I suppose it was quite hard not to think it was a big game in this competition for us over the past few days. But I guess it kind of was, but the boys just held their composure really well. The toss went our way. And we've got a tremendous amount of experience in this group.

Trent Boult and Tim Southee, with a new ball. They've been doing a great job for us for a number of years, and for them to set the tone they did today and allowed all bowlers to kind of back that up. And in the innings that we played, to score those runs I think was a great job.

Q. You mentioned the toss. Given what we've seen with chasing in this tournament and at this ground, how big a psychological advantage do you think it was for you guys to win the toss and have the chance to bowl first?

ISH SODHI: I don't know if it was much of a psychological advantage or anything like that. But I think the stats did say something this morning, like 14 games out of the last 18 had been won chasing here.

I guess from a technical perspective, I would assume both teams would have wanted to bowl and that's just the way that cricket goes. The coin can only go one way. And thankfully it went our way today.

Q. Can you tell us about your plans a bit?

ISH SODHI: I think the big one tonight was taking their batsman out of the equation. I think if you bowled to the conditions it was important. You didn't want to get too full on this side, closest to us, because the boundary on the leg side was so small.

And often, even if the conditions are offering something, if there's a little bit of spin or a little bit of bounce or something like that, if you overpitch with the quality of batsmen on the Indian cricket team the amount of time they take spinners down in the IPL, you're asking for trouble. So, it was important to keep your length back arc on this side of the field.

Whereas on the other side, the leg side was a lot longer, so you probably had a bit more margin for error with your length. I think it was just being really conscious of that and making sure you bowled to the conditions more so than the batsmen.

Q. There have been lots of talk about attacking the dew in Dubai. As you mentioned in a few meetings, certain balls weren't really stopping on the pitch. In terms of practising, bowling with a wet ball and fielding it, did you do anything different in practise?

ISH SODHI: It's been interesting because I think there hasn't probably been as much dew as we've expected in the evening matches. I'm told that the weather has gotten a lot cooler over the last two or three weeks, actually.

So I don't know whether that's had a bit of an impact on the lack of dew. But it's something that we always consider. We always speak about in the group. If we do find ourselves in a situation where the ball starts to get a bit wet, who has the towels and who can dry the ball off as quickly as we possibly can because obviously we've got a time limit we have to get the innings bowled by.

It's important to have those people with those towels out there if it does tend to dew up. But fortunately it hasn't been too bad so far.

Q. Did the team expect this encounter to be such a one-sided affair as it turned out to be?

ISH SODHI: Absolutely not. You go into matches like this with a team full of world-class performers like India have, and they've got a great record against us over the past few years. Very tough opposition in any conditions anywhere in the world.

So it's definitely a special win. After a tough loss against Pakistan I think the boys regrouped really well. And to be able to pull off a win like that, it's definitely something you don't take lightly.
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So Indian Public wanted India to forfeit the match against Pakistan , most people who favoured it did nt care about loosing 2 points because they were so arrogant and over confident that india would get rest of the points easily
 
India were and are appalling and shocking so far in this world cup. They don't deserve to qualify for the semis at thios ratre, and their chance is now slim. With all that money in IPL and T20's played you would have thought they would boss every T20 World Cup.
 
Bangladesh Bowling Attack FAR better then Indian Bowling Attack in ODI :

If you pick an ODI 11 from India and Bangladesh (the current squads in the t20), the 5 bowlers would be:

Shakib
Bhumra
Fizz
Taskin
Mehedi
 
Kohli should resign from ODI captainship with immediate effect.
His body language is very negative.
Teams captaining by Kohli can't win any major tournament.
 
That was a proper Punjabi phenta again dished out to India:wy I LMAO throughout the match thinking how much it must have demoralised Indian fans watching their team not even in the match. Credit to the black caps choking the life out of India like they did. I thought it was the wrong decision to field first until they proved me wrong right from the off. Now India have to face the humiliation being counted with minnows such as Namibia, Scotland and Afghanistan:))):))):))) Pak should offer to coach India now after seeing them being blasted out of the park.

I see nothing mysterious about Varun at all like we were told, NZ played him with total ease. Bumrah a good bowler isn't taking many wickets. India are more or less eliminated from the tournament.
 
India have a habit of being over confident. They again put their foot in the mouth making all these silly predictions and adverts before the tournament even started. That the BCCI provide the ICC with the most revenue does not mean they are the best team in the world. These over confident predictions prior to the tournament puts unneeded pressure on their players. Barking dog's don't bite.
 
Kohli led his U19 to victory over Kane and the NZ U19.

Since then Kane has knocked a Kohli led team out of the ODI WC, beaten India in the WTC Final and may have put the dagger in for India's chances of progressing past the group stage in this WT20.
 
I had predicted that NZ would beat India

It is also a team thing

Pakistan usu. beat New Zealand in ICC tournaments

New Zealand usu beat India in ICC events
 
Absolute worst case scenario for Modi.. the Pakistan match he didn’t want turned into a disastrous 10 wicket victory for their enemies, and just when they thought it couldn’t get worst.. their Epic batting lineup struggles to put 100 against newzeland and lose in 14 overs.. now the only question is how can Afghanistan top this :)
 
Aman said:
Kohli led his U19 to victory over Kane and the NZ U19.

Since then Kane has knocked a Kohli led team out of the ODI WC, beaten India in the WTC Final and may have put the dagger in for India's chances of progressing past the group stage in this WT20.
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Don't forget the World test championship final
 
And next for India lies Afghanistan who will be desperate to win. Can anyone honestly say with conviction India will win against Afghans? I think it is very much 50-50. Afghans with the better bowling attack and brave batsmen if anything hold the slight advantage.
 
I am so happy to see this as an Indian fan. BCCI's arrogance to do what they wanted by rescheduling that last test match in ENG was the most PATHETIC thing I have ever seen....

Nothing would make me more happier than to see India now lose to Namibia and Afghanistan.
 
Romali_rotti said:
I am so happy to see this as an Indian fan. BCCI's arrogance to do what they wanted by rescheduling that last test match in ENG was the most PATHETIC thing I have ever seen....

Nothing would make me more happier than to see India now lose to Namibia and Afghanistan.
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Just beat Afghanistan well, you can lose to the rest.

Would make things easier for us progress.
 
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