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New Zealand (156/5) defeat Pakistan (153/9) by 5 wickets in the 1st T20I

ARK Rafay said:
I do. I'd rather see our national team die trying then give up from the beginning :)
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How pointless is that? Field a team that's not good enough. Most of the players don't perform. The team ends up losing but fans end up praising the team for the jazba.
 
Good match despite terrible start by Pak. Good first captaincy match by Shadab, and led from fron with bat and fielding. Wahab and Shadab bowling were poor today. Faheem impressed for a change, and Haris Rauf continued to be very good.
 
uberkoen said:
How pointless is that? Field a team that's not good enough. Most of the players don't perform. The team ends up losing but fans end up praising the team for the jazba.
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What do you want us to do jump out of a window?
 
uberkoen said:
How pointless is that? Field a team that's not good enough. Most of the players don't perform. The team ends up losing but fans end up praising the team for the jazba.
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Stop whining and understand this team had no chance with that flimsy top order.
 
Usual poor start to a tour. The team combination is awful with too many bits and pieces cricketers, raw kids with hardly any domestic experience and players unsuited to the format.
 
Why does this waste yute mamoon come at the end if he knows the result might as well shut up and not come at the end either shows what a waste man he is people like him get knocked out in the ends I live in typical sissy and instigator
 
After being 20-4, this was a pretty good comeback from Pakistan. Even though this was a new Zealand C team
 
Mean&Green said:
Why does this waste yute mamoon come at the end if he knows the result might as well shut up and not come at the end either shows what a waste man he is people like him get knocked out in the ends I live in typical sissy and instigator
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Addat bana lo.
 
uberkoen said:
How pointless is that? Field a team that's not good enough. Most of the players don't perform. The team ends up losing but fans end up praising the team for the jazba.
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Selection is a different issue. It has nothing to do with team jazba. In sports it is important to not give up until the last moment of the game. The team that did at least and that's what we all are crediting them, for now. Obviously we expect selection, performances and plan to be better.
 
Shadab Khan | Pakistan captain: We did exceptionally well towards the backend but we lost too many wickets upfront. It is very difficult to recover when you lose wickets in the powerplay. The all rounders did well to give us a total. It was a bit two paced surface and difficult for the batsmen. We looked a bit rusty today, no practice before coming into this game but we have played a game now and should perform better in the next game. There will be a bit of turn there (Hamilton) and will be good for the spinners.
 
KoyoAli said:
It was a bit two paced surface and difficult for the batsmen. We looked a bit rusty today, no practice before coming into this game but we have played a game now and should perform better in the next game. There will be a bit of turn there (Hamilton) and will be good for the spinners.
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But ofcourse what does he know, he is just making an excuse. Some supreme athletes here know it that you can just turn up to any top level sport without any preparation without any issue.

Point is you cant hide every fact behind the notion of team’s quality. Lack of preparation is a fact, it might not be the difference between win or a loss but definitely impacts the overall performance.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good effort from Haris Rauf and Shaheen Shah Afridi with the ball, but you aren't going to win many matches if you are 20 for 4 after 4.1 overs <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NZvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NZvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1339871812059095040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2020</a></blockquote>
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What could have been a really sharamfull defeat turned out to be a regular defeat, well done Pakistan!!
 
Good fight back from that start but PAK hardly had any chance against Kiwis. Whatever left, it drained through Babar’s injury. Kiwis are a damn good side at home and to think that they were missing Will, Ross, Latham, Lockie, CDG, Soutge, Boult .... it’s a resounding dominance.

Positive for PAK though the bottom half batting and bowlers making the target at least 25 more than what was on board.
 
Constant bickering between Imad and Shadab while batting and fielding is what I'll take back from this game. Also, special shout out to the dropped dolly, and Rauf high blood pressure celebration.
 
Well played Pak. You missed Babar. He would have held one end steady, made a fluent 40 ball half century which would have taken the score to 180+ then NZ cud not have won. Still you showed great fite after top order collapse. Just fell short. Keep the faith.
 
MMHS said:
Good fight back from that start but PAK hardly had any chance against Kiwis. Whatever left, it drained through Babar’s injury. Kiwis are a damn good side at home and to think that they were missing Will, Ross, Latham, Lockie, CDG, Soutge, Boult .... it’s a resounding dominance.

Positive for PAK though the bottom half batting and bowlers making the target at least 25 more than what was on board.
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They are not a good t20 side. They got beaten both england and india in their own backyard and those were full strength teams. This Pakistan t20 side is just good enough .
 
Nikhil_cric said:
They are not a good t20 side. They got beaten both england and india in their own backyard and those were full strength teams. This Pakistan t20 side is just good enough .
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That only tells that India & England are far better T20 sides than NZ.
 
arunpsm said:
Well played Pak. You missed Babar. He would have held one end steady, made a fluent 40 ball half century which would have taken the score to 180+ then NZ cud not have won. Still you showed great fite after top order collapse. Just fell short. Keep the faith.
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Are you being sarcastic?

This was a second string NZ bowling attack and the game was won with balls to spare.
 
Pathetic batring effort seems none of out batsmen can play the short ball. Can only see longer term misery if this is what our future batting has to offer.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
They are not a good t20 side. They got beaten both england and india in their own backyard and those were full strength teams. This Pakistan t20 side is just good enough .
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India were fortunate to win that series.

We handed those games to India if you remember correctly. We had two of the three matches won and gifted them to India.

If India were to play a full strength NZ team now they would get swept.
 
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four-wicket haul from debutant Jacob Duffy (4/33) and handy knocks from Tim Seifert (57) and Mark Chapman (34) helped New Zealand take a 1-0 lead against Pakistan in the first match of the T20I series at Eden Park in Auckland.

A late blitz from Chapman and some big hits from Mitchell Santner and Jimmy Neesham helped the Kiwis steal 43 runs in the last 3.5 overs despite a six-run over, that included the wicket of Chapman, from Haris Rauf. Santner finished the game off with a six, but the run-chase had become a formality by then, mostly due to excellent knocks played by Seifert and Chapman earlier in the innings.

New Zealand lost Martin Guptill early on with Shadab Khan taking a stunner, running back from mid-off. Rauf added to the hosts' troubles when he held onto a good catch off his won bowling to send Devon Conway on his way. However, Glenn Phillips and Seifert gave the innings impetus after the Powerplay overs, taking spinners Shadab and birthday boy Imad Wasim for a six apiece in their respective overs.

Rauf returned to the attack to have Phillips caught at deep mid-wicket off his first ball of the new spell. But Seifert and new man Chapman stole 36 runs off the next four overs to pull New Zealand back on track.

At 109/3 in 14 overs, the hosts appeared to be well on course for an easy win, but Shaheen Shah Afridi returned to the mix to send back Seifert soon after he completed his half-century. Chapman, who had progressed at just over a run a ball, slammed Wahab Riaz for a six and two fours in the next over and the required run-rate promptly came down. Chapman's wicket didn't deter the lower middle-order as Neesham and Santner sealed the game for the hosts.

Earlier, Pakistan opted to bat first after winning the toss and immediately found themselves in trouble as Duffy, making his international debut, ran through their top-order. After a half-chance off his first delivery against Mohammad Rizwan, Duffy sent back Abdullah Shafique with the fourth ball of his first over, in just the second over of the innings.

In his next over, Duffy removed Rizwan and then extracted bounce off the Eden Park wicket to send back veteran Mohammad Hafeez off the very next ball. With three wickets in his first two overs, Duffy had already made his debut a memorable one.

New Zealand, however, continued to make inroads from the other end. Off the first ball of the next over, Scott Kuggeleijn sent back Haider Ali to leave Pakistan reeling at 20/4.

Khushdil Shah and stand-in skipper Shadab revived the innings a bit before a slog from the former, off Ish Sodhi, gave New Zealand a fifth wicket in the ninth over of the innings. Next over, Duffy nearly took a screamer in the deep to send back Shadab, but replays showed that the pacer had brushed the skirtings when rolling over after the one-handed grab.

Shadab played some shots against Sodhi, but he lost Imad at the other end when he ramped Kuggeleijn to deep third-man. However, the 40-run partnership had laid a decent foundation for the lower-order to take charge.

Shadab found an able ally in Faheem Ashraf, who began his knock with a four over cover off his second delivery. A couple of sixes off Sodhi next over sent Shadab into the 30s.

To pull things back, skipper Santner produced a stunning over where just one run was conceded and a LBW decision nearly won. With Santner done with his spell, Shadab and Ashraf freed their arms more and a 14-run over off Blair Tickner ensued.

Duffy sent back Shadab in the next over to complete the best-ever figures by a New Zealand bowler on T20I debut, but his over ended with three sixes off the last four balls. 19 runs came off the last two overs as Pakistan put up a competitive 153/9, a pretty good total considering they were just 51/5 from 11 overs earlier in the day.

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If only Faheem had held onto that catch, it may have been a close one.
 
Aman said:
Are you being sarcastic?

This was a second string NZ bowling attack and the game was won with balls to spare.
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No sire, I was genuinely appreciating the middle order lifting the score after, what, losing 4 inside powerplay. 2nd string or not, its a gud fight back from there.
 
Who were these Kiwi players? Except for the 2-3, all others were unknown scratchers with no pedigree. They won’t get in any IPL or even a PSL team. Golden opportunity missed by Pak.

However, match was entertaining for some time in the middle.
 
Aman said:
India were fortunate to win that series.

We handed those games to India if you remember correctly. We had two of the three matches won and gifted them to India.

If India were to play a full strength NZ team now they would get swept.
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Yes yes we were fortunate to win everything, Aman. The usual from you :facepalm:
 
The match was over after 4.1 overs.

Terrible top order batting.

It was only down to the quality of Haris and Shaheen which made it a contest of sorts.
 
Horrific show from the top order but not to forget we had 2 new comers and 1 tail ender batting at top.

Rizwan doesn't even deserve a place in ODI, only clueless management of pakistan can play him as opener in this format. He is a decent player to be part of test team and should never be the part of white ball cricket.

Sarfaraz should open the innings in next match as we don't have any other option. He has batted at the top in past and have done a decent job.

Abdullah Shafiq need to be given chance in the remaining two matches, that would give him some confidence to bat against top teams.

Regarding Haider, don't know why but I feel that he is going Umar Akmal's way. He has all the shots in the book and needs to realise he can't just swing it away on every ball. High time for him to realise his potential and play proper cricketing shots.

Shadab did well in batting and as a captain, but failed to deliver in the department which he is selected for. With his current form, Usman deserves a chance.
 
Important to realise that this New Zealand was more or less their 2nd XI.
 
Maliq_Mudasir said:
Horrific show from the top order but not to forget we had 2 new comers and 1 tail ender batting at top.

Rizwan doesn't even deserve a place in ODI, only clueless management of pakistan can play him as opener in this format. He is a decent player to be part of test team and should never be the part of white ball cricket.

Sarfaraz should open the innings in next match as we don't have any other option. He has batted at the top in past and have done a decent job.

Abdullah Shafiq need to be given chance in the remaining two matches, that would give him some confidence to bat against top teams.

Regarding Haider, don't know why but I feel that he is going Umar Akmal's way. He has all the shots in the book and needs to realise he can't just swing it away on every ball. High time for him to realise his potential and play proper cricketing shots.

Shadab did well in batting and as a captain, but failed to deliver in the department which he is selected for. With his current form, Usman deserves a chance.
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Well, well, well.

Another embarassing display by the Pakistan T20I team, but who really is there to blame? The management? The captain? The players?

I think the problem goes much further than that, and it is a series of mistakes of which we are paying the consequences of presently.

Pakistan was NO.1 on the T20I Rankings a few years ago, and our usual team consisted of:
Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman, Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, Asif Ali, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Shadab Khan, Faheem Ashraf, Imad Wasim, Hasan Ali, and our last seamer was usually some random one, like Usman Khan Shinwari.

Looking at the team now, we have replaced 7 of those players. When experimentation was needed in certain areas, the management made changes in places where there was no need. When we were the far best T20I team in the world, the management did very little experimentation with the middle order and didn't bother to bring in new talents to replace the ageing Malik and Hafeez. Our top order still remains lack-lustred, and there isn't a single competent and capable batsman on the team apart from Babar Azam.

What's in the past is in the past, but the mistakes we made then will haunt us in many ways moving forward, mostly because our team is fresh with new faces, and it will take a few years at least before we can get into a rhythm.

Now, coming back to this match, it was a mixed bag of a performance. Our top order choked under all pressure, there was hardly any problem with the surface. All that was required was to camp on the back foot and guide the ball by getting on top of the bounce, and we couldn't do that. Pretty pathetic that we were 39/5 until the late heroics of Shadab and Faheem. Our batting needs some serious work, we have gone with too much elegance and youth instead of known performers.

Haider and Abdullah played pathetic shots to get out, and it was un-called for at the stage. Hafeez disappointed as well, trying to slap a bowler over his head.

Our top order is weak despite what we think, and without Babar, it is exposed like a hole in one's pants.

Our spin department, apart from Shadab, did alright. Imad should have been utilized entirely in the powerplay to give Shaheen more overs in the middle. Shadab needs to work on his bowling because we need a good leg-spinner for T20I.

Our pace department, apart from Wahab Riaz, did excellently. Faheem Ashraf impressed me with the ball and with the bat, and if he continues like this, he could find a way back into the team. He played some good shots, and bowled in good areas. Haris Rauf was excellent on this wicket as well, and Shaheen got slapped near the end, but bowled well initially.

The problem with our bowling began in the over Shadab Khan bowled, where he conceded 12 runs. It allowed Seifert to open his arms, and this was a captaincy blunder in my opinion. If a wicket is needed immediately after the powerplay, don't resort to the spinner automatically unless you have a new batsman on strike, or if the pitch is conducive to spin. This one was a flat track, and it was quite obvious from Ish Sodhi's bowling that Shadab would go for runs. That was not the stage to bring himself on, and he cost the team with that decision. Had we bowled someone else, like Imad Wasim, who bowled brilliantly in the powerplay, we could have choked the batsmen until the 7th or 8th over, and get them to make irrational choices and play dumb strokes.

The next captaincy blunder was continuing to bowl Wahab Riaz when he was leaking very much. Part of this is Wahab's fault by bowling short balls at a time where the opposition is looking to take the game away. He should have bowled yorkers or well-directed length balls. Short balls going down the leg side are asking to be pulled over the ropes at this small boundary. Disappointed from that performance, it really cost the team.

Moving forward, we need to think about how we can improve our top-order, because they are far too young to understand how to bat in these conditions. Every good batting innings today involved the players taking their time to get set before accelerating. Abdullah, Haider, and Hafeez didn't even bother to understand what the pitch was like before attacking the ball. Disappointing stuff, and they should know better especially when Babar Azam is on their team. He has shown everyone how to bat anywhere, and also proved that taking some balls to get settled is perfectly fine in T20I cricket, especially in the powerplay.

Given how the match happened, I think that we need a lot more emphasis on our top order and middle order, as we need more runs in the powerplay and initial middle overs.

I've made two possible team combinations:

Option A:
Abdullah Shafique
Zeeshan Malik
Haider Ali
Mohammad Hafeez
Shadab Khan
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Khushdil Shah
Imad Wasim
Faheem Ashraf
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Haris Rauf

Option B:
Abdullah Shafiq
Haider Ali
Shadab Khan
Mohammad Hafeez
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Khushdil Shah
Faheem Ashraf
Imad Wasim
Wahab Riaz
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Haris Rauf

Though they look similar, one is for fixing our batting whilst giving a little compromise on the bowling by leaving out Wahab Riaz. The other is strengthening both the bowling and just a little of the batting, assuming that our players play well next time.

It was a disappointing game today, but hopefully, we can come back stronger.
 
uberkoen said:
Too many useless oldies and part-time players in the team. Really need to send a proper playing 11 out there if we are to get something out of these games. Hafeez and Wahab need to be dropped. Faheem and Imad need to be replaced. Was Khushdil playing? Did he do something? The top order was pathetic. Lots of changes needed.

What's the point of Haider Ali and Shafique if they can't score? Shafique seems as though he was brought in too early and needs to continue playing domestic before he's given another chance.
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You want to drop hafeez for not performing in 1 game ?
 
uberkoen said:
Agreed. He has made a lot of poor decisions today. Shadab isn't ready for captaincy. I mean, Shadab isn't even a guaranteed starter let alone a captain.
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What poor decisions like taking the game to the 18th over ?
 
Energy said:
Constant bickering between Imad and Shadab while batting and fielding is what I'll take back from this game. Also, special shout out to the dropped dolly, and Rauf high blood pressure celebration.
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It didnt look pretty it looked heated
 
Poor combination from the management.a lack of clarity of definning roles in the team.

Pakistan did well to get upto the score.rauf and shaheen were very very good .Wahab was wayward and lacked total control should have only bowled the 1 over.imad should have bowled all his 3-4 overs.

Have stated this before haider needs to open with an accumulater preferably abdullah.rizwan does not merit a place in the team.


My team
Abdullah
Haider
Sarfraz
Hafeez
Khusdhil
Iftikhar
Imad
Shadab
Fahim
Wahab
Rauf
 
shamaan said:
It didnt look pretty it looked heated
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It doesn't make for good viewing. In contrast, after Kohli was run out yesterday against the run of play, sold down the river by his partner - there was a silent apology and no over the top emotions.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Yes yes we were fortunate to win everything, Aman. The usual from you :facepalm:
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Dude, how could you forget that series? India had two matches lost and we somehow gifted them to India. It was post WC and the team couldn't get over the line.

People started calling us bottlers because of how we lost those matches after having won those games.
 
Aman said:
Dude, how could you forget that series? India had two matches lost and we somehow gifted them to India. It was post WC and the team couldn't get over the line.

People started calling us bottlers because of how we lost those matches after having won those games.
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India whitewashed NZ in their home by beating them 5-0. I am not entirely sure how can someone gift all 5 matches. It was an emphatic victory by India on the back of some terrific batting by KL Rahul & co and NZ got thoroughly outclassed. You are just making up excuses for the defeat and unable to accept the fact that India was a better t20 side.

Also, the series was in December, world cup got over in June. So I am not even sure how that series was just after the world cup...lol.
 
Energy said:
It doesn't make for good viewing. In contrast, after Kohli was run out yesterday against the run of play, sold down the river by his partner - there was a silent apology and no over the top emotions.
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I expected kohli to get emotional.i actually think imad is jealous that he got picked for captincy.but they need to sort it out behind the scenes
 
Aman said:
Dude, how could you forget that series? India had two matches lost and we somehow gifted them to India. It was post WC and the team couldn't get over the line.

People started calling us bottlers because of how we lost those matches after having won those games.
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I haven't. But that was your full strength team, regardless. Lack of bottle is not an excuse you can use to defend a whitewash .
 
King Kohli was actually the only one who played a poor shot out of the top 6 dismissals. Just quality quality bowling from the Aussies.
 
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