New Zealand v England | 3rd Test | Auckland | March 22-26, 2013

[Gunther]

Yaah, but was there any point in not declare around 425 -430? I meant, was there any advantage to keep piling on runs after 420 runs when you have flat wicket. It was sure a bad declaration.

NZ are not really in a position to be making brave declarations. Baz was great through out with his captaincy.

 

[James]

It was simply England's day, the ball hit the stumps twice but the bails remained unmoved, Bell's drop ultimately cost a lot of deliveries.

Exactly, they bottled it.

An epic rearguard action against the odds and another day to be proud to be an England fan.

 

[James]

England even maintain the #2 rank, I think?

This is hilarious.

 

[cricketworm]

Swaggerish beard for Simon Doull.

 

[Gunther]

Well done also to NZ for mucho good cricket and entertainment.

Bet Marshland loved that evening session.

He was whinging here about Eng having all the luc

 

[Kianig89]

Who's that old fella doing a parliamentary speech...............

 

[cricketworm]

England even maintain the #2 rank, I think?

This is hilarious.

BCCI should ban NZ players from IPL for this mistake.

 

[NZcricketfan]

Hahahaha! What a performance. We are the masters of the rearguard action

You needed luck against the ranked 8 team. You are not as good as you think.

 

[cricketworm]

LOL John Body guy has very funny tone!!! hahaha

 

[MenInG]

Luck or not - it does take character to come out of such situations - Well done England.

 

[Gunther]

Cardiff with Jimmy/Monty. That game with Onions and Colly?

Yep! This is the fourth such rearguard in the past 3-4 years.
Centurion, Cape town, Cardiff, Auckland.. I say if we cannot win games, then we might as well save them in this fashion!

 

[Kianig89]

will be awards for Catch of the match award.....MMA sixes Award....Gillette boundaries award #PCBsque

 

[James]

You needed luck against the ranked 8 team. You are not as good as you think.

Didn't say anything about us being good.

What we undoubtedly are, are fighters, with great character. That's often more admirable and important than being good.

 

[James]

Luck or not - it does take character to come out of such situations - Well done England.

Thankyou MIG, and perfectly surmised.

 

[Ruri]

Drawing with NZ is nothing to be ashamed of. They're #8 because of inconsistency, not because they are a bad team. They've always had very skilled players who perform magnificently in patches. They drew with Australia in Australia, they have the fight.

England does need to up their game though, stop throwing away wickets, bowlers need to stop getting frustrated and giving it away.

 

[Gunther]

Trust me, '8th ranked' NZ were a lot better than the other higher ranked teams we had to face rently.

 

[cricketworm]

What a test for Fulton though Two Full Tons by him.

 

[Sledger]

Doull not asking any questions about the declaration.

 

[cricketworm]

No MOTM no MOTS???

 

[Varun]

Say hello to the best spinner of Australia and New Zealand...

 

[Kwremb]

Exactly, they bottled it.

An epic rearguard action against the odds and another day to be proud to be an England fan.

They bottled but England had some external help as well like the glued bails

 

[Varun]

This is the third time I've seen England pull something like this off. One was in an Ashes test against Australia at Cardiff, the other in South Africa where Bell of all people saved it for them, and the third one now.

 

[Ruri]

This is the third time I've seen England pull something like this off. One was in an Ashes test against Australia at Cardiff, the other in South Africa where Bell of all people saved it for them, and the third one now.

Two matches in South Africa.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/387572.html

Swann and Onions at the end. Bell and Colly did most of the work.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/387570.html

Collingwood and Onions.


God I miss Colly, he was the main one at Cardiff too.

 

[Gunther]

This is the third time I've seen England pull something like this off. One was in an Ashes test against Australia at Cardiff, the other in South Africa where Bell of all people saved it for them, and the third one now.

It's actually the 4th time! 2 times in SA in the same series

 

[Varun]

^Yeah hilarious, no other team pulls them off once 9-down.

But that Cardiff draw involved some time wasting I recall. Calling the phsyio out, an extra pair of gloves, etc.

 

[Fire Bird]

Well done England - turning a loss into a draw :gavaskar and retaining the no.2 rankings. Damn kiwis somehow always manage to stuff up the most straightforward of wins. I have a soft corner for the NZ and its not pleasant seeing them come so close again

 

[Varun]

I hope New Zealand get a leg up in the rankings after this, #8 sounds unfair. I'm sure they're better than Sri Lanka, who aren't even home track bullies anymore.

 

[James]

^Yeah hilarious, no other team pulls them off once 9-down.

But that Cardiff draw involved some time wasting I recall. Calling the phsyio out, an extra pair of gloves, etc.

Sure, but you do what you gotta do.

There's something deeply resilient about this England team, no doubt about that.

 

[Convict]

Last time England best New Zealand 1-0 they won the next Ashes.
Last time they drew 0-0 they lost the next 8

 

[ali bubba]

I'll tell you where New Zealand messed up and I said it at the time. Not enforcing the follow on. England were reeling, they'd have only had to chase about a 100 runs maximum batting second.

 

[Buffet]

NZ are not really in a position to be making brave declarations. Baz was great through out with his captaincy.

420 would have been hardly a brave declaration. No one has chased that total in history. Eng didn't have KP. Eng with Cook/Trott can't score quick enough to chase that kind of total when they also want to ensure no loss.

Last time I remember, India chased some big total against Eng in one day but that total was lot lower and batting line up was different.

 

[leatherface58]

Fair series result I guess. Without rain, we would have won the 1st test and England the 2nd. This one of course wasn't rain affected.

 

[ali bubba]

Last time England best New Zealand 1-0 they won the next Ashes.
Last time they drew 0-0 they lost the next 8

We'll beat New Zealand at home 1-0 then.

 

[Varun]

Last time I remember, India chased some big total against Eng in one day but that total was lot lower and batting line up was different.

Sehwag in Chennai in the form of his life in 2008 against an England team that fell apart a month later in the West Indies. Different circumstances for sure.

 

[Wristy_Shuffler]

What a game...I don't think it's a coincidence for it to be England again. I guess this kind of fight can be attributed a lot to the fact that England have by and large persisted with the same players, they know each other well and really do play for each other.

They were a little lucky but you expect that. And I think if Prior had gotten out by the ball rollicking of his body on to the stumps, that would have been really unlucky.

Also, another point for the DRS!

 

[James]

What a game...I don't think it's a coincidence for it to be England again. I guess this kind of fight can be attributed a lot to the fact that England have by and large persisted with the same players, they know each other well and really do play for each other.

They were a little lucky but you expect that. And I think if Prior had gotten out by the ball rollicking of his body on to the stumps, that would have been really unlucky.

Also, another point for the DRS!

Well said.

 

[Fire Bird]

420 would have been hardly a brave declaration. No one has chased that total in history. Eng didn't have KP. Eng with Cook/Trott can't score quick enough to chase that kind of total when they also want to ensure no loss.

Last time I remember, India chased some big total against Eng in one day but that total was lot lower and batting line up was different.

Yeah 400-420 was eonugh. India chased 387 trolled the English big time . But that was possible due to Sehwag assault and scoring a century

 

[Convict]

We'll beat New Zealand at home 1-0 then.

I double checked.
I got it wrong.

The last time England lost a series in New Zealand they won the next two Ashes series.

The last time they drew 0-0 in New Zealand they lost the next 8

 

[Robert]

Big smile on my face this morning. I knew England could save it. Well done Matty for bringing the crippled Lancaster home!

 

[Fire Bird]

I'll tell you where New Zealand messed up and I said it at the time. Not enforcing the follow on. England were reeling, they'd have only had to chase about a 100 runs maximum batting second.

Its great to examine the decision in hindsight but what if Cook scored a double century and NZ are left to chase a tricky 250 in the 4th. Could have lost. But considering NZ hasnt won against Eng in along time, worth a gamble I guess.

 

[Fire Bird]

I double checked.
I got it wrong.

The last time England lost a series in New Zealand they won the next two Ashes series.

The last time they drew 0-0 in New Zealand they lost the next 8

Can you also check what the Aussies did in the Ashes after getting whitewashed in the past

 

[Robert]

Guess which team has lost to both New Zealand and the West Indies? And a whitewash against Pakistan?

Not England! ) ) )

 

[Buffet]

Yeah 400-420 was eonugh. India chased 387 trolled the English big time . But that was possible due to Sehwag assault and scoring a century

Well, if England was able to chase 400+ on last day then I won't fault any captain for declaring. 387 was hell of a target on 5th day pitch so hats off for chasing but captain can't be blamed for declaring. Declaring is all about giving yourself maximum chance to win the test and also minimize your chance of losing. 400-420 was nice balance. If it gets chased down then other team has to play really well.

 

[James]

not england! ) ) )

) ) )

 

[Buffet]

Not England! ) ) )

It was funny.

 

[Robert]

This is the the difference between the Hobbits and England. They can play well, we can be disinterested and play rubbish, but they still don't beat us.

 

[James]

This is the the difference between the Hobbits and England. They can play well, we can be disinterested and play rubbish, but they still don't beat us.

) Carry on

 

[Buffet]

This is the the difference between the Hobbits and England. They can play well, we can be disinterested and play rubbish, but they still don't beat us.

Excuses are already out to explain why #2 rank team didn't win a series against #8. When all said and done it was 0-0 score between #8 and #2 rank team.

 

[James]

Excuses are already out to explain why #2 rank team didn't win a series against #8.

I suspect this is not entirely serious enquiry by Robert

 

[Robert]

) Carry on

What was the name of that chippy Kiwi bloke who was giving it large? Where's he gone?

 

[Varun]

This is the the difference between the Hobbits and England. They can play well, we can be disinterested and play rubbish, but they still don't beat us.

Wasn't aware that the English hated New Zealand so much? Is it because you've been unable to win this series?

 

[Buffet]

I suspect this is not entirely serious enquiry by Robert

I already know that. Just pulling his leg.

 

[Kwremb]

This is the the difference between the Hobbits and England. They can play well, we can be disinterested and play rubbish, but they still don't beat us.

Is that the official excuse for playing badly?

 

[SL_Fan]

Wow hats off to Eng. Thought they were goners after Bell got out. Prior again showing just why he's the best Test wk-bat since Gilly, and will probably end up among the top of the ATG wk-bat list as well when he calls it a day. Pretty much always turns up when his team needs him most. Respect!

 

[James]

What was the name of that chippy Kiwi bloke who was giving it large? Where's he gone?

Hiding.

 

[ahmed778]

No worry, they'll get beaten in may at their own home.
They have been exposed.

 

[NZcricketfan]

If you think the english players were disinterested you are seriously deluded. Prior hardly had enough energy left to give an interview.

 

[Gunther]

If you think the english players were disinterested you are seriously deluded. Prior hardly had enough energy left to give an interview.

Lol

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Australia to win the Ashes this time round.

 

[Aman]

Say hello to the best spinner of Australia and New Zealand...

Imagine him in India )

 

[Robert]

Hiding.

The Hobbits had journeyed far, across unhelpful tracks and through howling rainstorms, constantly harried by The Matt of Sauron. Their champion 2M Peter (who was really one Hobbit standing on the shoulders of another one) and their brave captain Brendon finally led them to the mountain to get rid of the Ring of Chippiness which they had bourne for so long, ever since their shining knight Hadlee had retired, but in the end they were not quite good enough, kept the Ring for themselves and turned into a bunch of Gollums.

 

[James]

Haha they actually do have Tolkeinesque names as well

 

[Dr_Bassim]

The Hobbits had journeyed far, across unhelpful tracks and through howling rainstorms, constantly harried by The Matt of Sauron. Their champion 2M Peter (who was really one Hobbit standing on the shoulders of another one) and their brave captain Brendon finally led them to the mountain to get rid of the Ring of Chippiness which they had bourne for so long, ever since their shining knight Hadlee had retired, but in the end they were not quite good enough, kept the Ring for themselves and turned into a bunch of Gollums.

Robert, I don't buy the argument that English players were disinterested.

Every team goes into the tour to win. Not to look disinterested.

If you have ever played any game at a professional level, you would know , no player is ever disinterested to win, even if it's a weaker opponent.

I think they took the New Zealanders too easy in the 1st test and had to to do a rearguard action in 2nd innings.

Similar is the case in 3rd test. They were all at sea.

I still think England is much better side to New Zealand. But in cricket, you underestimate the opposition at your own peril.

Most of you were making tall claims that New Zealand would get blown away and it would not even be a contest.

New Zealand came out on top with a draw even.

The mighty English team couldn't roll them over even once in 3 tests.

And it all happened because you guys tend to underestimate the opposition.

"Disinterested" is a loosely applied term in professional sport, to hide from the fact that, that a team performance was abysmal to the say the least.

Just thank your stars you escaped with a draw : )

 

[Amjid Javed]

Well done england for escaping with a draw am sure they will show the kiwis alot more respect in the reverse series due to be played very soon.

 

[NZcricketfan]

Robert, I don't buy the argument that English players were disinterested.

Every team goes into the tour to win. Not to look disinterested.

If you have ever played any game at a professional level, you would know , no player is ever disinterested to win, even if it's a weaker opponent.

I think they took the New Zealanders too easy in the 1st test and had to to do a rearguard action in 2nd innings.

Similar is the case in 3rd test. They were all at sea.

I still think England is much better side to New Zealand. But in cricket, you underestimate the opposition at your own peril.

Most of you were making tall claims that New Zealand would get blown away and it would not even be a contest.

New Zealand came out on top with a draw even.

The mighty English team couldn't roll them over even once in 3 tests.

And it all happened because you guys tend to underestimate the opposition.

"Disinterested" is a loosely applied term in professional sport, to hide from the fact that, that a team performance was abysmal to the say the least.

Just thank your stars you escaped with a draw : )

Don't try and reason with him lol let him live in his ignorant world. How top class can a team be if they have to make excuses that players are missing? South Africa on the other hand replaces good players with other good players. England with their massive funding and domestic structure can't.

 

[Saqs]

Prior continues to impress but still remain criminally underrated.

To think he averages 45 or so at a healthy SR and never seems to play for himself or records and always puts the team ahead of himself... That's quite an achievement.

 

[Robert]

Robert, I don't buy the argument that English players were disinterested.

I think they are more motivated by some series (Australia, India) than others (World Cup WI, NZ). This is a weakness in their approach, I think. Overscheduling is partly to blame. Nobody else plays round-the-year cricket. They get mentally jaded.

Just thank your stars you escaped with a draw : )

No, I thank Bell and Prior.

 

[NZcricketfan]

I think they are more motivated by some series (Australia, India) than others (World Cup WI, NZ). This is a weakness in their approach, I think. Overscheduling is partly to blame. Nobody else plays round-the-year cricket. They get mentally jaded.



No, I thank Bell and Prior.

You forgot stump cam.

 

[Aman]

I think they are more motivated by some series (Australia, India) than others (World Cup WI, NZ). This is a weakness in their approach, I think. Overscheduling is partly to blame. Nobody else plays round-the-year cricket. They get mentally jaded.



No, I thank Bell and Prior.

Sorry but I don't buy that bs any test with a series on the line is a crunch game.

 

[malakian]

 

[NZcricketfan]

That's great because England couldn't take 20 wickets either.

 

[Aman]

Yeah only 19

 

[malakian]

Unlucky my kiwi friends, you deserved the win.

 

[NZcricketfan]

malakian's

First Class Player

Debut: Sep 2010
Venue: UK
Runs: 2,807

"Too easy, these rubbish kiwis are no match for us. I doubt they'll win a single match all tour."

No point being the diplomat now Malakian.

 

[Sherlock]

Well done England, brilliant from Prior, once again. Unlucky NZ.

 

[Saqs]

How they will rue those two dropped catches in the one over.

 

[Convict]

malakian's

First Class Player

Debut: Sep 2010
Venue: UK
Runs: 2,807

"Too easy, these rubbish kiwis are no match for us. I doubt they'll win a single match all tour."

No point being the diplomat now Malakian.

He was right

 

[Varun]

He was right

I think they pocketed a T20 and an ODI.

 

[Robert]

Sorry but I don't buy that bs any test with a series on the line is a crunch game.

It is a bit odd that England often seem to relax against the Kiwis though.... they seemed to be trying for an hour here, an hour there, but then their body language went flat and they put nine fielders on the ropes. They only really started to scrap when backed into a corner. Strange....