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New Zealand v India | 1st test - Day 1| Hamilton | 18/3/09

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On_the_up said:
Just proves even the best can make mistakes
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My first impression was out. Only when they showed hotspot it looked not out. He is making a come back. Only recently he told he wants to become a 50/50 all rounder.
 
wanted_desi said:
Yes
First Inning: Pitch is Not Flat
Second Inning: Pitch becomes flat
Third Inning; Pitch become green again
Fourth Inning: Pitch becomes flat again

So Conclusion: Indian bowlers are STB and their batmen are FTB
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:))
 
They getting out defending the ball. They better throw the bat around. This is not working for them. Footwork is very poor from everyone.
 
I dont think indian bowling is anything special to get 6 wicket in the first session. NZ batsmen are pathetic, we all know they almost lost to bangladesh.. i wud not take this serieously even india win this series.

IMHO indian team suck against top teams on lively wickets period
 
wanted_desi said:
Yes
First Inning: Pitch is Not Flat
Second Inning: Pitch becomes flat
Third Inning; Pitch become green again
Fourth Inning: Pitch becomes flat again

So Conclusion: Indian bowlers are STB and their batmen are FTB
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I agree with you on the conclusion.
 
adeelakram76 said:
I dont think indian bowling is anything special to get 6 wicket in the first session. NZ batsmen are pathetic, we all know they almost lost to bangladesh.. i wud not take this serieously even india win this series.

IMHO indian team suck against top teams on lively wickets period
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How old are you ?
 
IronMan2009 said:
I think Taufel went with the sound since bat and pad were very close. Having said that New zealand batsmen simply play with static feet. No forward or backward movement.
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Always it is understandable when umpire makes mistakes that favour India, it is deliberate conspiracy when they are against India.
 
adeelakram76 said:
33. y?
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You posts here reflects the mentality of a 10 year old. And that's not an insult, but my honest opinion. You keep posting cheap shots against our team time and again, do you expect all of us to get riled up and debate with you ? You are wrong, you won't get that reaction from anyone of us.
 
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Bublu Bhuyan said:
You posts here reflects the mentality of a 10 year old. And that's not an insult, but my honest opinion. You keep posting cheap shots against our team time and again, do you expect all of us to get riled up and debate with you ? You are wrong, you won't get that reaction from anyone of us.
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Bublu..that is a modest response
 
adeelakram76 said:
whatever I mentioned was just my opinion. if you dont agree with them, then just ignore my post.
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I have been ignoring your post all the time, not replying to a single one of them. Even in the post above, I asked your age, irrelevant to the rantings of your post. And it's that opinion of yours which reflects a childish mentality.
 
Mansoor_Ahmed said:
Bublu..that is a modest response
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Well, I'm not a person who would fight verbally with others. In fact I'm very realistic, viewing things from a neutral perspective. I'm the last person to say or believe that India is the best ODI team currently even if a 100 ex players or a 100 cricket experts claim so. I was just amused at that person's posts time and again.
 
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Random Aussie said:
Always it is understandable when umpire makes mistakes that favour India, it is deliberate conspiracy when they are against India.
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Yea.. when third umpire is refused to be called. When a 4th umpire gives it out :P. When 3rd umpire gives a wrong decision. Doing everything to help a team win a test match.
 
yaar India ne to band bajadee

I guess we might have to get used to the idea of India doing well abroad.

the IPL, the pace academies, looks like all starting to pay off now
 
IronMan2009 said:
Yea.. when third umpire is refused to be called. When a 4th umpire gives it out :P. When 3rd umpire gives a wrong decision. Doing everything to help a team win a test match.
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IronBal phir ro rahe hain :inzi

Impossible to have a discussion with you, you will never concede anything, agree to anything or do anything other than be cheerleader for Indian team.
 
Bublu Bhuyan said:
You posts here reflects the mentality of a 10 year old. And that's not an insult, but my honest opinion. You keep posting cheap shots against our team time and again, do you expect all of us to get riled up and debate with you ? You are wrong, you won't get that reaction from anyone of us.
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dude, i am not expecting anyone to reply my post. I am just putting my opinion. if you dont like it, just skip my post like ironman and other indian fans
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I am surprised about the shocking display from the New Zealand batting. But sort of expected though. They are not Test side. Any particular decent spells from Indian bowlers?
 
Wow. Good pre-lunch session there for India. Dhoni called right I guess! I was a bit surprised to see Munaf Patel in the line-up but he has done well so far!

Well, the NZ line-up does look brittle! In one session they handed over all momentum to India.
 
MalikMohsin said:
I am surprised about the shocking display from the New Zealand batting. But sort of expected though. They are not Test side. Any particular decent spells from Indian bowlers?
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almost all of them got out due to bad shot selections or foot work. one of them was not out. given out by simon taufel.
 
Random Aussie said:
IronBal phir ro rahe hain :inzi

Impossible to have a discussion with you, you will never concede anything, agree to anything or do anything other than be cheerleader for Indian team.
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You are not an Australian? Pakistan origin?

Anyway same way it is difficult to have objective discussion when you try equate every single rough decision to a series of appalling decisions in one test. Infact lot of Australian media condemned it. Since you keep bringing it up pointlessly i can see your wounds are still open.
 
way to go India, but Ryder looking dangerous. Let's knock em over.

Bhajji vs Ryder should be a good contest.

Zak and Bhajji looking extremely gay wiping their boots together
 
IronMan2009 said:
You are not an Australian? Pakistan origin?

Anyway same way it is difficult to have objective discussion when you try equate every single rough decision to a series of appalling decisions in one test. Infact lot of Australian media condemned it. Since you keep bringing it up pointlessly i can see your wounds are still open.
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I am Australian, just learning a few words and phrases along the way....

As for the rest, forget it. The Indian stance on umpiring is massively two faced, cry about everything that goes against them and never mention anything about the ones which favour them. I keep bringing it up because it is true, not that you would ever acknowledge anything critical of India so can't discuss with you. :P


"I am NZ cricket" is currently pretty much NZ cricket.

6/80 - must be a record for Indian team, 31 overs until the spinner bowls.
 
IronMan2009 said:
Since you keep bringing it up pointlessly i can see your wounds are still open.
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golden words :19:

Ryder is becoming NZ's Inzy/Anwar. Always doing well against India :(
 
I am watching it right now. No decent spell has been so far. Seriously, they need to make the advantage of the pitch. Several good dismissals and the rest were either fluke or poor shots by New Zealand. It's time to ban New Zealand from Test. They aren't good
 
Random Aussie said:
I am Australian, just learning a few words and phrases along the way....

As for the rest, forget it. The Indian stance on umpiring is massively two faced, cry about everything that goes against them and never mention anything about the ones which favour them. I keep bringing it up because it is true, not that you would ever acknowledge anything critical of India so can't discuss with you. :P


"I am NZ cricket" is currently pretty much NZ cricket.

6/80 - must be a record for Indian team, 31 overs until the spinner bowls.
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I've never been two faced about this issue. What goes around comes around. I don't recall Bublu whining either. Who in particular are you targetting?

Don't say the BCCI. We already know our board is a bunch of ignorant girls.
 
India needs to get past Ryder. Wonder if bowlers can even see wickets.

throw a biscuit or something I say ;-)
 
bring a silly mid off for vettori and go around the wicket, your not gonna get LBW from over
 
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Random Aussie said:
As for the rest, forget it. The Indian stance on umpiring is massively two faced, cry about everything that goes against them and never mention anything about the ones which favour them. I keep bringing it up because it is true, not that you would ever acknowledge anything critical of India so can't discuss with you. :P
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If you keep bringing up we will keep reminding you what a "fixd" Test match that was. India had several bad decisions in England. Nobody made a big deal because they were genuine errors. What happened in Australia was not error. They were fraud umpiring by three fraud umpires.
 
IronMan2009 said:
If you keep bringing up we will keep reminding you what a "fixd" Test match that was. India had several bad decisions in England. Nobody made a big deal because they were genuine errors. What happened in Australia was not error. They were fraud umpiring by three fraud umpires.
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we have nobody but ourselves to blame for losing the Sydney test match. We got the rough end of the stick but at the same time we should be able to bat out 60 overs to save a game. Dhoni was apalling in the way he kept padding it away.
 
Tupac said:
we have nobody but ourselves to blame for losing the Sydney test match. We got the rough end of the stick but at the same time we should be able to bat out 60 overs to save a game. Dhoni was apalling in the way he kept padding it away.
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Since RA likes to bring sydney test every time when there is a bad decision i had to remind him how even third umpire screwed up decision alongwith onfield umpires. If anyone who should bring it up every now and then that should be us.
 
HItting leg stump. Not given by Taufel. Good delivery by Zak. Swinging both ways with old ball.
 
^ Ironman - RA has a point about the umpiring. Even though, Media has made the big deal out of it (Sydney Test), and same can be said about if the decision goes favor to India, you don't see Media to complain about.
 
After hearing the pitch that offers fine bounce, oh man i miss Mohammad Asif. He would have been amazing in this pitch and would be treat to watch.
 
MalikMohsin said:
^ Ironman - RA has a point about the umpiring. Even though, Media has made the big deal out of it (Sydney Test), and same can be said about if the decision goes favor to India, you don't see Media to complain about.
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Malik, RA has no point. Because India doesn't go around jumping up and down every series. Bucknor has been reported by Indian cricket board several times by India. Sydney test was the final nail. It had so many dimensions to it. Only those who have followed Indian cricket to the T for the last 10 or 15 years know about it. Others will have trouble understanding it. Just like Hair has been your boogey man, Bucknor has been India's for several times.
 
Vettori top edged for six. WHat a tiny tiny boundary lol man. He middled the ball 2.5 % i think
 
IronMan2009 said:
Malik, RA has no point. Because India doesn't go around jumping up and down every series. Bucknor has been reported by Indian cricket board several times by India. Sydney test was the final nail. It had so many dimensions to it. Only those who have followed Indian cricket to the T for the last 10 or 15 years know about it. Others will have trouble understanding it. Just like Hair has been your boogey man, Bucknor has been India's for several times.
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Pakistan has suffered the blunder umpiring from the first test to the fourth during the 'Tour of England'. Yet no one from Pakistan team has complained about the blunder umpiring. It was later Hair has dug his own grave for throwing huge allegation without evidence to prove. That was different.

The Test Series in England was provided much blunder umpiring than Sydney Test. But they didn't complain and neither Media jumped like crazy. Try watching 1st, and 3rd Test before to comment about this.

But throwing big allegation wouldn't go unnoticed at all. Media wanted to know why the big allegation but Hair has had no proof whatsoever.
 
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Tupac said:
I've never been two faced about this issue. What goes around comes around. I don't recall Bublu whining either. Who in particular are you targetting?

Don't say the BCCI. We already know our board is a bunch of ignorant girls.
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Well not you and Bublu. :)
 
MalikMohsin said:
Pakistan has suffered the blunder umpiring from the first test to the fourth during the 'Tour of England'. Yet no one from Pakistan team has complained about the blunder umpiring. It was later Hair has dug his own grave for throwing huge allegation without evidence to prove. That was different.

The Test Series in England was provided much blunder umpiring than Sydney Test. But they didn't complain and neither Media jumped like crazy. Try watching 1st, and 3rd Test before to comment about this.

But throwing big allegation wouldn't notice at all.
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Umpire refusing to call third umpire, third umpire making wrong calls were part of those bad decisions? Grounding the catch and claiming it as a catch? Were those part of the problems. In 2003 India was denied numerous appeals by Bucknor. India had a chance to win a Test series in Australia. They didn't make a deal about it. In sydney test, Both umpires, plus third umpire were utterly mediocre. I can also show several indian series where India had the rough justice and didn't make a big deal. That is what i said. You have to have followed Indian cricket closely for 10 to 15 years. Apparenlty you have not watched. You are doing the same thing. Equating another series with this series.
 
IronMan2009 said:
If you keep bringing up we will keep reminding you what a "fixd" Test match that was. India had several bad decisions in England. Nobody made a big deal because they were genuine errors. What happened in Australia was not error. They were fraud umpiring by three fraud umpires.
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OK then. Keep your tin hat on otherwise they can hear you.
 
Random Aussie said:
OK then. Keep your tin hat on otherwise they can hear you.
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You asked for it :P. Just an FYI. In Sydney test We were the victims. Not you .You act like victim that is really laughable.
 
hmmm ..... no wicket for an hour. Either the second session just started or Zaheer is not bowling.
 
12thMan said:
hmmm ..... no wicket for an hour. Either the second session just started or Zaheer is not bowling.
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Zaheer bowled found edges several times. It kept flying through tiny gaps in the slips. One close shout was not given. Things are going NZ's way. But problem is other end is pressure free.
 
IronMan2009 said:
Umpire refusing to call third umpire, third umpire making wrong calls were part of those bad decisions? Grounding the catch and claiming it as a catch? Were those part of the problems. In 2003 India was denied numerous appeals by Bucknor. India had a chance to win a Test series in Australia. They didn't make a deal about it. In sydney test, Both umpires, plus third umpire were utterly mediocre. I can also show several indian series where India had the rough justice and didn't make a big deal. That is what i said. You have to have followed Indian cricket closely for 10 to 15 years. Apparenlty you have not watched. You are doing the same thing. Equating another series with this series.
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Same has been continued in The Tour of England. There was no referral and neither turned it to third umpire for not sure about about several poor decisions by umpires. Sometimes, horrible umpiring can be expected and be it biased or not but we have no choice and continue with the umpires. All we could is to hope for replacement of umpires for next series.

Pakistan team had a lot of blunder umpiring for the past 15 years and more, and the documentary of Pakistan-England Test series of 92 or 90 (not quite sure) were also shown how umpire deliberately refused the appeal of Aqib Javed, Mushtaq Ahmed and umpire knew it was out but didn't give the decision. So, please don't think India is only team to have suffered the blunder umpiring from the past and even Sri lanka team has also suffered the same. I suggest you to grow up and move on.

Here is the link just in case if you wanna catch of The Tour of England 06;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hibiCasJP68
 
The partnership from Daniel and Ryder is shining, and settled. Ryder has good defense technique, and that lad reminds me of Inzimam
 
MalikMohsin said:
Same has been continued in The Tour of England. There was no referral and neither turned it to third umpire for not sure about about several poor decisions by umpires. Sometimes, horrible umpiring can be expected and be it biased or not but we have no choice and continue with the umpires. All we could is to hope for replacement of umpires for next series.

Pakistan team had a lot of blunder umpiring for the past 15 years and more, and the documentary of Pakistan-England Test series of 92 or 90 (not quite sure) were also shown how umpire deliberately refused the appeal of Aqib Javed, Mushtaq Ahmed and umpire knew it was out but didn't give the decision. So, please don't think India is only team to have suffered the blunder umpiring from the past and even Sri lanka team has also suffered the same. I suggest you to grow up and move on.

Here is the link just in case if you wanna catch of The Tour of England 06;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hibiCasJP68
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http://content.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/story/304570.html

Show me where India made a big deal of it.
 
Malik..India also had lot of bad decisions. That one particular test had everything that was stinking. Downright. India has suffered at the hands of umpires so many times in Australia. Tendulkar was given out 3 times when he was not in 1999. Lot of youtube videos are available find one. Why it had to be made a big deal.

This generalization of "We all suffered.. blah blah" argument i have heard enough. India has also had worse series before and after. Umpires have to be held accountable
 
MalikMohsin said:
The partnership from Daniel and Ryder is shining, and settled. Ryder has good defense technique, and that lad reminds me of Inzimam
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Yaar he does remind of :inzi and not just because he is fat.

Good recovery by the Hobbits.
 
MalikMohsin said:
Did India media not whine about Sydney Test? Including the whole country?

I was talking about Pakistan Tours Of England but not India!

P.S: Read the post FIRST
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You are saying about India whines about every test. That is not the case. That was to prove you that point.
 
adeelakram76 said:
Are we seeing the real indian bowling attack now?? struggling to get no 8 out. :) :)
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To be fair NZ number 8 is probably in their top 2 or 3 batsmen.


Hobbits have got out of a hole here, at once stage they looked like being out for 100. Probably Sehwag will chase their score in a session.
 
IronMan2009 said:
You are saying about India whines about every test. That is not the case. That was to prove you that point.
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When i said, move on and clearly, you are still whining about the past.

You make it sound like only Indian team has suffered the blunder umpiring but not Pakistan-Sri Lanka.

Pakistan would have been first team to win the Test series in Australia, and also in West Indies (87). Both Pakistan and Sri Lanka have also suffered the blunder umpiring in the past but they move on unlike India.

If you are trying to prove otherwise, doesn't look like you are moving on.
 
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