New Zealand v Pakistan | 1st Test | Christchurch | Nov 17-21, 2016 | Day 3

[ahmedwaqas92]

is Pakistan ATG , not world .

YK, in addition to being a world class batsman, is beast of a Fisherman as well - This is solidifies his World ATG status even more. Please tell me how many great world batsmen were expert at catching fishes as well ????

 

[spade]

This approach cost them a test vs WI and they will continue to suffer further, there are no players in this line up who can bat to score runs and not just occupy the crease. How on earth did this team not so long before get to the no 1 spot, just baffling.

If we dissect pak's previous performances in UAE it was mainly through Younis, Misbah and Hafeez, sarfaraz did well initially, now he just gets an odd fifty and goes missing, this team with a similar approach in UAE will lose more often if they lose the toss, irrespective of the opposition.

Yasir shah has already lost his zip which was only a matter of time and the pacers are non existent , infact i am surprised they managed to skittle nz for 200 today. I concur will ganguly's statement that India are miles better than Pakistan, better batsmen, better bowlers and far better fielders.

Going forward pakistan will suffer more humiliation not just abroad but also in the UAE, if they don't re strategize and dump misbah and younis for good.

 

[Abdullah719]

Boycott was dropped after scoring 246*, that too in 60s - getting result is one thing because we never know or can measure what could have been other way. I can't prove, so it's up to you to accept or not - but, without that 90% toss win record, this approach won't have earned much in UAE either.

I started posting today with a little dig at Warner, never thought that it'll bite back such ...

It seems Azhar took that as a challenge.
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Anyway - why do these guys seem to take forever with the drinks breaks? They're taking a good five minutes each time and that really isn't on.

Gonna fall well short of the 98 overs again. After 7 hours of play.

 

[MMHS]

is failing more often these days. I think he should retire gracefully and not tarnish his legacy

He is 39 - with a reflex, eye or hand-eye coordination of 43 years old man. He is surviving with his experience, gut & intelligence - all these are effective after he has batted for an hour. Brilliant player at his prime, but each & every day, bowlers are measuring his age these days.

 

[Justcrazy]

I do not know what is the instructions inside dressing room

 

[Abdullah719]

This approach cost them a test vs WI and they will continue to suffer further, there are no players in this line up who can bat to score runs and not just occupy the crease. How on earth did this team not so long before get to the no 1 spot, just baffling.

If we dissect pak's previous performances in UAE it was mainly through Younis, Misbah and Hafeez, sarfaraz did well initially, now he just gets an odd fifty and goes missing, this team with a similar approach in UAE will lose more often if they lose the toss, irrespective of the opposition.

Yasir shah has already lost his zip which was only a matter of time and the pacers are non existent , infact i am surprised they managed to skittle nz for 200 today. I concur will ganguly's statement that India are miles better than Pakistan, better batsmen, better bowlers and far better fielders.

Going forward pakistan will suffer more humiliation not just abroad but also in the UAE, if they don't re strategize and dump misbah and younis for good.

Same team just drew a series in England. Calm down.

 

[angrypathan]

It seems Azhar took that as a challenge.
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Anyway - why do these guys seem to take forever with the drinks breaks? They're taking a good five minutes each time and that really isn't on.

Gonna fall well short of the 98 overs again. After 7 hours of play.

Drinks breaks always take 5 minutes

 

[Justcrazy]

YK, in addition to being a world class batsman, is beast of a Fisherman as well - This is solidifies his World ATG status even more. Please tell me how many great world batsmen were expert at catching fishes as well ????

You are a deluded fan , YK is clearly passed his prime. His average will go down from here outside subcontinent.

 

[Jan Sher]

YK still remains an ATG..........only for his fans!

He is an ATG, doesn't need your approval.

 

[Abdullah719]

Drinks breaks always take 5 minutes

Usually seems to take around 3 minutes but now throughout the match the drinks breaks seem extended. The commentators are noticing it as well.

 

[MMHS]

It seems Azhar took that as a challenge.
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Anyway - why do these guys seem to take forever with the drinks breaks? They're taking a good five minutes each time and that really isn't on.

Gonna fall well short of the 98 overs again. After 7 hours of play.

It'll never improve - unless you hurt the players in a match they are playing. Rules in ICC are made by 75 years old people, for whom, Sobers's "1 run 1 Pound" contract was like - wooooh , 2500 pound as bonus in a season. So they think, these days, chopping some match fee would stop players doing this. After 6 minutes drinks, they take 2 minutes to decide which bowler to bowl (must have discussed Trump's cabinet options during drinks).

5 runs per every over lost as extra, against any team wasting time deliberately - trust me, we'll see 98 overs in 6 hours.

 

[waleed88]

By blocking also you have lost 3 .

We have scored 83/3.. respectable considering what happpened previous innings..
NZ went about their business quicker but that is also after a quite start in 50 overs.. Forget the run rate they have played on these pitches all their lives.. this is home conditions to them.. lets just accept that batsmen need time out in the middle to actually adjust to the conditions

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

You are a deluded fan , YK is clearly passed his prime. His average will go down from here outside subcontinent.

Yes I am a fan of a guy with 33 hundreds, 9.5k test runs. 53.xx average (50+ average in each inngs), Bradmanesque conversion and many more records.

If this is delusion then yes !! by all means... call me deluded !!

 

[waleed88]

Boycott was dropped after scoring 246*, that too in 60s - getting result is one thing because we never know or can measure what could have been other way. I can't prove, so it's up to you to accept or not - but, without that 90% toss win record, this approach won't have earned much in UAE either.

I started posting today with a little dig at Warner, never thought that it'll bite back such ...

In UAE the ball wouldn't be swinging after 50 overs.. so this is not a valid comparison.. the game will have a result.. the point is to frustrate NZ as much as possible.. play till the final day and get them to chase around 200 in the last 2 sessions

 

[spade]

Same team just drew a series in England. Calm down.

What do you think they are planning to do here, is it even acceptable 83/3 (54) that includes 12 extras, which test team in the world including zim can match those stats?? Are they playing for a draw??

 

[jeetu]

Pakistan 87/3 (54.4 ov)
Pakistan lead by 20 runs with 7 wickets remaining
Azhar Ali 31*
Misbah-ul-Haq* 7*

 

[uberkoen]

I do not know what is the instructions inside dressing room

The instructions are that it's a test match and there's still 2 days left after this one. Which makes sense, don't you think?

 

[Abdullah719]

In UAE the ball wouldn't be swinging after 50 overs.. so this is not a valid comparison.. the game will have a result.. the point is to frustrate NZ as much as possible.. play till the final day and get them to chase around 200 in the last 2 sessions

The ball hasn't been moving much for a while now but Azhar seems to be stuck in that frame of mind he started the innings with.

 

[MMHS]

This approach cost them a test vs WI and they will continue to suffer further, there are no players in this line up who can bat to score runs and not just occupy the crease. How on earth did this team not so long before get to the no 1 spot, just baffling.

If we dissect pak's previous performances in UAE it was mainly through Younis, Misbah and Hafeez, sarfaraz did well initially, now he just gets an odd fifty and goes missing, this team with a similar approach in UAE will lose more often if they lose the toss, irrespective of the opposition.

Yasir shah has already lost his zip which was only a matter of time and the pacers are non existent , infact i am surprised they managed to skittle nz for 200 today. I concur will ganguly's statement that India are miles better than Pakistan, better batsmen, better bowlers and far better fielders.

Going forward pakistan will suffer more humiliation not just abroad but also in the UAE, if they don't re strategize and dump misbah and younis for good.

One of the key factor in UAE was actually MoHa - we might taunt him, but he was the real deal in UAE. Gave great balance with 35 tight overs (he averages 38 with ball, at 1.5 wicket/Test - must be bowling at 2.2 economy in UAE) & he is only player in PAK line-up, who once set, can take the match away in a session. Last time in UAE, it was his 150+ that made the series 2-0 against Poms. That 150 was scored at 65+ SR in a match with average scoring rate of 2.3.

 

[Justcrazy]

Yes I am a fan of a guy with 33 hundreds, 9.5k test runs. 53.xx average (50+ average in each inngs), Bradmanesque conversion and many more records.

If this is delusion then yes !! by all means... call me deluded !!

You have to look at stats with conditions and oppositions in the front.

 

[Yatoo]

Azhar Ali trying to match ABDs blockathon

 

[Abdullah719]

What do you think they are planning to do here, is it even acceptable 83/3 (54) that includes 12 extras, which test team in the world including zim can match those stats?? Are they playing for a draw??

Criticising their approach here is valid.

But you wrote a whole essay about how terrible a Test team this side is. Disagree with that.

 

[uberkoen]

What do you think they are planning to do here, is it even acceptable 83/3 (54) that includes 12 extras, which test team in the world including zim can match those stats?? Are they playing for a draw??

What are you on about? They're taking their time and scoring patiently. Nothing wrong with that. They can bat at a run rate of 2 all day tomorrow and end up with a lead of above 200 which should be sufficient to see them through the match.

 

[waleed88]

Azhar is a very poor runner, how many run out has he been a part of?

 

[Justcrazy]

One of the key factor in UAE was actually MoHa - we might taunt him, but he was the real deal in UAE. Gave great balance with 35 tight overs (he averages 38 with ball, at 1.5 wicket/Test - must be bowling at 2.2 economy in UAE) & he is only player in PAK line-up, who once set, can take the match away in a session. Last time in UAE, it was his 150+ that made the series 2-0 against Poms. That 150 was scored at 65+ SR in a match with average scoring rate of 2.3.

In UAE , not outside subcontinent I guess. pakistan should have played amad butt and Yamine both , at least kept them in squad from England tour. They would have worked with support staff at least to improve skills.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

You have to look at stats with conditions and oppositions in the front.

Can we apply the such same filters to all batsmen around the world !! Certain home bullies who are feasting on England today would be made to look like proper tailenders if this is said to be the case.

 

[uberkoen]

Azhar is a very poor runner, how many run out has he been a part of?

He's been run out a total of 10 times in both Test and ODI

 

[MMHS]

As expected, wicket has got lot faster on Day 2 & I think, it'll get a bit uneven on Day 4 (if the match goes to distance). Any target of 170+, Yasir will come into play.

 

[waleed88]

He's been run out a total of 10 times in both Test and ODI

He's run out a few people as well

 

[uberkoen]

He's run out a few people as well

I'm sure he has. I don't have those numbers unfortunately.

 

[waleed88]

Loool the commentator goes if Azhar Ali gets a 300 here in this pitch 'I'll be on a pension' Hahahahah

 

[uberkoen]

As expected, wicket has got lot faster on Day 2 & I think, it'll get a bit uneven on Day 4 (if the match goes to distance). Any target of 170+, Yasir will come into play.

Exactly. Pakistan don't need to set a huge target so there's nothing wrong with taking it slowly as long as they have something above 200 in their minds.

People on here tend to forget how test matches work. This T20 generation, honestly. SMH

 

[Slog]

Lol it's 50+ overs and the ball is looking like it's just 20 overs old.

Soon the second new ball will come and we'll still be seeing off the first new ball

 

[shah_1]

Finally a four

 

[Shafi]

Failed try by our batsmen. We can never able to draw this test let alone winning. Lead 120-150 runs are not good enough

 

[MMHS]

In UAE , not outside subcontinent I guess. pakistan should have played amad butt and Yamine both , at least kept them in squad from England tour. They would have worked with support staff at least to improve skills.

You can check my post in the preview thread of this Test

7. Yamin; 8. Fahim/Amad, 9. Amir, 10. Yasir, 11. Sohail/Rahat was my team. In NZ, pace hardly works unless you are Shoaib. Once 13 Kiwis saved a match batting 140 overs against Lloyd's men, in 1979.

 

[JaDed]

Can we apply the such same filters to all batsmen around the world !! Certain home bullies who are feasting on England today would be made to look like proper tailenders if this is said to be the case.

Like who? Only country Kohli hasn't performed is England and Rahane has a ton in one of the greenest Lord's pitch in recent times.So whom are you talking about coz most Indian posters agree Pujara performs only in Asia and no one rates Dhawan inspite of him having a good home record.

 

[uberkoen]

 

[Abdullah719]

You gotta be kidding...

 

[-=Umair=-]

Misbah gone

 

[Mr Consistent]

Missing Umar akmal here

 

[Justcrazy]

24 maidens so far in this innings.

 

[shah_1]

Exactly. Pakistan don't need to set a huge target so there's nothing wrong with taking it slowly as long as they have something above 200 in their minds.

People on here tend to forget how test matches work. This T20 generation, honestly. SMH

Misbah plays a shot like that ...OUT

We have played too slow 26/4

 

[boomboom6]

and there goes Misbah )

blockathon worked out for us oh so well !!

 

[uberkoen]

Why are they even playing these deliveries? I don't get it.

 

[waleed88]

Skipper gone!!

 

[Shawaiz]

And this is why our batters were defending every ball.

 

[Justcrazy]

Blocking blocking , still another one goes.

 

[Yatoo]

26/4

Time for new Misbah/Younis to show they can take the team forward

 

[waleed88]

Should've checked for no ball

 

[Abdul]

Misbah went for a shot which is what all matters. In the end who cares if he got out?

 

[Abdullah719]

Shafiq is due a very big knock.

Now would be a good time to step up.

 

[Justcrazy]

Kiwis have golden chance to win this Test , I will be surprised if they do not from this position.

 

[uberkoen]

Misbah plays a shot like that ...OUT

We have played too slow 26/4

Problem is the lack of ability to stick to a plan. If the plan is to take it slow and crawl to a lead of 200-220 by end of day tomorrow then they should just leave all these short deliveries but they tend to get impatient and play stupid shots like this one.

 

[uberkoen]

Misbah went for a shot which is what all matters. In the end who cares if he got out?

I can't tell if you're serious or being tongue in cheek

 

[spade]

One of the key factor in UAE was actually MoHa - we might taunt him, but he was the real deal in UAE. Gave great balance with 35 tight overs (he averages 38 with ball, at 1.5 wicket/Test - must be bowling at 2.2 economy in UAE) & he is only player in PAK line-up, who once set, can take the match away in a session. Last time in UAE, it was his 150+ that made the series 2-0 against Poms. That 150 was scored at 65+ SR in a match with average scoring rate of 2.3.

Absolutely sir that's correct..Hafeez had a very impressive strike rate and played very fluently. No one in this line up is capable of playing shots, the more i see,the more it gets clearer that these players lack ability more than confidence.

 

[boomboom6]

Why are they even playing these deliveries? I don't get it.

more like blocking every ball led to negative approach inducing loose shots (Sami and Misbah)

 

[Justcrazy]

Shafiq is due a very big knock.

Now would be a good time to step up.

He will fail too, its over now.

 

[Aman]

One of the worst innings I've ever seen.

Hang your head in shame Azhar.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

So......

Asad and Azhar on the crease together.... Given how both of them have played for nearly six years together I haven't really seen these two bat with each other that often..

Fantastic opportunity here !!

 

[shah_1]

That's the result of playing slow

They will get wickets eventually

 

[waleed88]

I don't think the Hook is Misbah's best shot

 

[srh]

Negative cricket will always let you down Pakistan

 

[Yatoo]

Match may have a result today.

 

[waleed88]

Thats it.. game over

 

[boomboom6]

And now Azhar gone too ) ) )

We DESERVE to lose this match due to shambolic batting!

 

[uberkoen]

So......

Asad and Azhar on the crease together.... Given how both of them have played for nearly six years together I haven't really seen these two bat with each other that often..

Fantastic opportunity here !!

....Sorry, what were you saying?

 

[Justcrazy]

5 down now

all blocking experts gone

 

[Abdul]

Game over Pakistan.

 

[shah_1]

One of the worst innings I've ever seen.

Hang your head in shame Azhar.

I agree

 

[waleed88]

This just shows what happens when you play shots on this wicket

 

[Nasty Naz]

What an embarrassment.

 

[Shafi]

This is bound to happen!!!!! By tuking now we don't have even 50 runs to defend

 

[uberkoen]

Shafiq is due a very big knock.

Now would be a good time to step up.

As is Sarfraz!

 

[waleed88]

Well they did what everyone asked them to, go for their shots..

Clearly this pitch still has life in it

 

[Shawaiz]

Fastest 100 needed from sarfaraz now

 

[Saqib]

This has to be one the worst batting display in history of Pakistan cricket what was the plan ?

 

[MMHS]

Azhar gone - this will be the case 9 times out of 10 in a tight match. Eventually, he dragged a half-volley - these happens when your first intention is to block. Really disappointing innings - he never tried a drive in 5 hours.

 

[Shafi]

This just shows what happens when you play shots on this wicket

No!!! Play whole day and score 100 in 90+ overs.

 

[spade]

What are you on about? They're taking their time and scoring patiently. Nothing wrong with that. They can bat at a run rate of 2 all day tomorrow and end up with a lead of above 200 which should be sufficient to see them through the match.

I bet now you won't find my statements more repulsive, i don't think the lead can cross more than 60.