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New Zealand v Pakistan | 2nd Test | Hamilton | Nov 25-29, 2016 | Day 5

Dr_Bassim said:
I cant believe some posters actually think Pakistan was planning to chase 200 in last session.

They gave up ages ago when Sami and azhar played at 1.5 for 60 overs.
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You're watching a different game if you think that running was to secure a draw .

But now it's time to walk home with a respectable draw
 
RRR 7.4... it's game over and we're still defending :facepalm:

Kane might be worse than Mathews....
 
Aman said:
Require run rate now over 7.

Should be attacking, Pakistan are on the back foot now.
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He'll attack, in 2.3 overs, with a red cherry - nice trap set by Ken, if light permits, 23 overs with new ball to a bowler taking 6 in 1st innings will be fun - and the 3 batsmen left has scores of 2, 1, 20, 4, 23 & 0 ........... in this series.
 
Statsman said:
How is the field setting now? KW should be looking to attack now.
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Less defensive, but he should be attacking. It will take a miracle to chase it now.. Pakistan looked to have shut down shop too.
 
Younis should be thinking "these damn kids know nothing about cricket trying to score 200+ in a session" no intent from him since he came.
 
Don't have any power hitters in the team. Match would have been one for Lala Afridi to shine in, Imad Waseem would have been effective as well. I am heartbroken:shocked Said prior to the series that NZ are to be taken seriously at home, they're no walkover.
 
We have to get the overs in, even though the light is quite bad.

This might work in our favor :))
 
Aman said:
RRR 7.4... it's game over and we're still defending :facepalm:

Kane might be worse than Mathews....
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New Zealand hasn't won a series against Pakistan anywhere in THIRTY years

Makes sense if he is defensive and ensures they get the 1-0 win
 
YK needs to act smartly with his eyes, so that Umpires offer light. Frequent look at the sky might work .......

I don't know God or Satan whispered in PAK's dressing room, but .....
 
KingKhanWC said:
You're watching a different game if you think that running was to secure a draw .

But now it's time to walk home with a respectable draw
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Its obvious really.

IF you are planning to chase 370 on 5th day u dont go at 1.5 per over for 60 and then want 200 in 30.

That run out showed the suicidal mentality.

It might suit people who were under the delusion that Pakistan were chasing this, but they were content with a draw.
 
The big mistake was Sami trying to hit out. He should have been the anchor. Also Sohail could have come in when there was nothing to lose. He could have had a go. If it didn't work there would hsve been enough batsmen after him to put up the shutters. Only team that can win now is NZ.
 
Sami's wicket had signaled the series win for NZ; now what remains to be established is whether it's going to be 1-0 or 2-0
 
My only issue is the half-hearted attempt to accelerate towards an impossible target after Tea.

Now Pakistan has its last two recognised batsmen at the crease apart from a debutant. With 22 overs left and a new ball due.

Younis needs to dig in and defend and save this match.

1-0 is only half as bad as 2-0, especially when poor preparation was obviously the cause.
 
Junaids said:
My only issue is the half-hearted attempt to accelerate towards an impossible target after Tea.

Now Pakistan has its last two recognised batsmen at the crease apart from a debutant. With 22 overs left and a new ball due.

Younis needs to dig in and defend and save this match.

1-0 is only half as bad as 2-0, especially when poor preparation was obviously the cause.
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If the practice match hadn't been rained out, or if Pakistan had arrived a week earlier, they would have won the series?
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Its obvious really.

IF you are planning to chase 370 on 5th day u dont go at 1.5 per over for 60 and then want 200 in 30.

That run out showed the suicidal mentality.

It might suit people who were under the delusion that Pakistan were chasing this, but they were content with a draw.
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exactly , they were just creating a delusion for people to deviate the blame from their pathetic approach so they can say we played 'aggressive' cricket
 
Sami Aslam and Azhar Ali, what Pakistan would do to drop you two for good but we have to stick with you for the rest of the decade.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Can't compare Pakistan to anyone , someone's flawed, sometimes genuis . Don't want it to be predictable & boring like India /Bangladesh.
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Well, the euphemistic name of the mercurials and the unpredictables has spoilt the mindset of many Pak fans here. Like Big Mac said it in his interview, it's just another way of saying you aren't professional enough, meaning you fail as much as you win.

It's one thing to plan a chase of 360 in 98 overs. But to try and chase 210 in the last session after crawling at 1.5 rr for the first two sessions doesn't look genius to me. It's bordering on brainless.
 
Time to shake hands!!! No way we can win this match after our openers play less than 2 runs overs for 40 overs
 
Chrish said:
Pakistan was never gonna chase this..
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Pakistan can't even chase 270 in ODIs. They were never going to chase 270 odd in the last 50 overs here

Anyone who thought they could was delusional. You can't just flip a switch and go from 90 runs in 45 overs to 270 in 50. This isn't book cricket
 
Match was over when babar get out no one else in the team has the shots to accelerate against pacers.
 
Junaids said:
especially when poor preparation was obviously the cause.
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I had my doubts about 1st test being a fluke for new zeland when Pakistan were underprepared with the tour match being washed out but this match puts an end to all these debates

Final series outcome is fair and square
 
Sachin136 said:
If the practice match hadn't been rained out, or if Pakistan had arrived a week earlier, they would have won the series?
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They needed to do what they did in England.

Arrive three weeks earlier - but to Australia - play three matches somewhere dry like Adelaide or Perth, then go to NZ when they did.

They would have won easily in NZ, and gone on to win in Australia too.
 
street cricketer said:
Well, the euphemistic name of the mercurials and the unpredictables has spoilt the mindset of many Pak fans here. Like Big Mac said it in his interview, it's just another way of saying you aren't professional enough, meaning you fail as much as you win.

It's one thing to plan a chase of 360 in 98 overs. But to try and chase 210 in the last session after crawling at 1.5 rr for the first two sessions doesn't look genius to me. It's bordering on brainless.
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Don't say that man you will hurt the feeling of so many fans who think Azhar and Sami are the best batting pair since sliced bread !!!

:facepalm:
 
street cricketer said:
Well, the euphemistic name of the mercurials and the unpredictables has spoilt the mindset of many Pak fans here. Like Big Mac said it in his interview, it's just another way of saying you aren't professional enough, meaning you fail as much as you win.

It's one thing to plan a chase of 360 in 98 overs. But to try and chase 210 in the last session after crawling at 1.5 rr for the first two sessions doesn't look genius to me. It's bordering on brainless.
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Now you understand why Afridi is a bigger hero than Khan - that staff happens once is 23 years .........
 
street cricketer said:
Well, the euphemistic name of the mercurials and the unpredictables has spoilt the mindset of many Pak fans here. Like Big Mac said it in his interview, it's just another way of saying you aren't professional enough, meaning you fail as much as you win.

It's one thing to plan a chase of 360 in 98 overs. But to try and chase 210 in the last session after crawling at 1.5 rr for the first two sessions doesn't look genius to me. It's bordering on brainless.
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The approach as a whole has been a flawed one. No direction, just hoping for some miracle in the final session. You have to pave your way towards the target; blasting your way in Test cricket is just not on
 
Another Duck for the Golden Boy !!

And to think they didn't even make 1 change for the Australian Tour :69: :69: :69: :69:
 
Snatch said:
Just one example of some of the garbage posted in the last couple of hours.
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Pakistan have paced the chase very poorly.

The wicket has been great and our bowlers have been far from difficult.

170 in the last session would have been much more realistic.
 
sarfraz is responsible for this situation

5th gone.......

like i said, pakistan will lose this match. if i can judge this sitting here, what kind of mindset pakistan think tank and bastmen had? they lose wickets in such stupid manner pretending to chase which was never there
 
Chrish said:
I had my doubts about 1st test being a fluke for new zeland when Pakistan were underprepared with the tour match being washed out but this match puts an end to all these debates

Final series outcome is fair and square
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How so?

It's fair and square because Pakistan prepared to fail by failing to prepare.

But I'm quite angry now that they are dicing with losing this match by the brainless decision to chase an impossible target.

The people on this thread who compared it to an ODI are generally young and don't fully get the difference between Test conditions and ODIs.

But I expected better of the management team.
 
I think Pakistan have to worry about losing here, instead of chasing....
 
street cricketer said:
Well, the euphemistic name of the mercurials and the unpredictables has spoilt the mindset of many Pak fans here. Like Big Mac said it in his interview, it's just another way of saying you aren't professional enough, meaning you fail as much as you win.

It's one thing to plan a chase of 360 in 98 overs. But to try and chase 210 in the last session after crawling at 1.5 rr for the first two sessions doesn't look genius to me. It's bordering on brainless.
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They were tiring new zealand's bowlers so the others can score easily but unfortunaly they fail ,the plan was to tire them until the 88 overs and let the others score 200 in 10 overs against tired bowlers.
 
Chalo dil dar chalo, hame tayer chalo -
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] - boss, good, bad, ugly can't tell; but if anyone can bail this out; it's the old man & his dance. This game is all about character - he is the only guy built that for few years with a Pro & played few season of meaningful FC cricket - rest are product of Quad E Azam style ....
 
this jobber batsman Watling getting chirpy. Send him to UAE and Yasir and Zulfi baba will teach him a lesson.
 
street cricketer said:
Well, the euphemistic name of the mercurials and the unpredictables has spoilt the mindset of many Pak fans here. Like Big Mac said it in his interview, it's just another way of saying you aren't professional enough, meaning you fail as much as you win.

It's one thing to plan a chase of 360 in 98 overs. But to try and chase 210 in the last session after crawling at 1.5 rr for the first two sessions doesn't look genius to me. It's bordering on brainless.
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This.

A little more urgency in the first 2 sessions, and they could have chased it.
 
My Love for Asad Shafiq is diminishing pretty quickly :livid:
[MENTION=21215]srh[/MENTION] Brother !! Can you guide me towards the light !!
 
MMHS said:
Chalo dil dar chalo, hame tayer chalo -
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] - boss, good, bad, ugly can't tell; but if anyone can bail this out; it's the old man & his dance. This game is all about character - he is the only guy built that for few years with a Pro & played few season of meaningful FC cricket - rest are product of Quad E Azam style ....
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What were they drinking at Tea time?

They just needed to shake hands at 92 overs with Pakistan 250-2. And we could all blame the PCB for losing the series by brainless scheduling, whilst happily noting that all the batsmen had had a good knock.
 
Aman said:
This.

A little more urgency in the first 2 sessions, and they could have chased it.
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No they couldn't.

If they had been 230-3 at Tea and then lost a couple more wickets accelerating the tail would have fallen to the new ball. Just like with India in Australia two years ago.
 
Junaids said:
No they couldn't.

If they had been 230-3 at Tea and then lost a couple more wickets accelerating the tail would have fallen to the new ball. Just like with India in Australia two years ago.
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NZ wouldn't have taken the new ball if Pakistan had a sniff, the new ball was taken once Pakistan shut down shop.
 
If Rizwan really can hook and pull, Younis might be fighting for his place in Australia.
 
Junaids said:
What were they drinking at Tea time?

They just needed to shake hands at 92 overs with Pakistan 250-2. And we could all blame the PCB for losing the series by brainless scheduling, whilst happily noting that all the batsmen had had a good knock.
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They drank tea boss - anything stronger is Haram .......

Everything was within plan, barring a small catch - which Ken knew & a guy sitting in Toronto knew - 23 overs with a brand new cherry, on a 15th session wicket, in fading light for a bowler taking 6for in 1st innings, against a batting line-up with 4, 5, 6 & 7 making tail-enders proud ........ PAK should have gone gone to 81st over with 2 down, not 4 - check my post somewhere yesterday ..............
 
Aman said:
NZ wouldn't have taken the new ball if Pakistan had a sniff, the new ball was taken once Pakistan shut down shop.
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I think a "positive" Pakistan would have been 100-2 at lunch and 220-4 at Tea.

And then 270-6 at 80 overs, with Southee and Henry finishing them off for around 280 all out.
 
MMHS said:
They drank tea boss - anything stronger is Haram .......

Everything was within plan, barring a small catch - which Ken knew & a guy sitting in Toronto knew - 23 overs with a brand new cherry, on a 15th session wicket, in fading light for a bowler taking 6for in 1st innings, against a batting line-up with 4, 5, 6 & 7 making tail-enders proud ........ PAK should have gone gone to 81st over with 2 down, not 4 - check my post somewhere yesterday ..............
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I completely agree.

Babar Azam should now be 35 not out and Sami Aslam 110 not out, with Pakistan cruising at 205-1.
 
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