All teams do it on a regular basis on decks like this, smith and co acting like your lot are saints and ours pure evil doesn't actually make it true.
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New Zealand vs Australia | Feb 20-24, 2016 | 2nd Test | Christchurch | Match Thread
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All teams do it on a regular basis on decks like this, smith and co acting like your lot are saints and ours pure evil doesn't actually make it true.
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Well clearly there's more to it as you've been able to get it to reverse very quickly, even when NZ haven't been going after the bowling.
Well everybody except nz cheats, the umps are out to get you and you guys are so unlucky as well so yeah there is a lot more to it.
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I never said we never did it, I said we need to be pushing it further to get it reversing earlier. This is the same point I've been making for days and you've yet to grasp it.
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McCullum new article after retirement: How to morally reverse the ball.
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NZ have fought back well but Oz well on their way to regain that no1 spot. NZ bowlers especially have been very disappointing both in Aus and here I have to say. Expected a lot better. NZ defo have a mental block against Oz imo. They just don't seem to play with the same intensity.
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Congrats Aus on your No 1 ranking.
Kiwis...you suck.
All you had to do was draw a home series for us.
Kiwis...you suck.
All you had to do was draw a home series for us.
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It's not a mental block, they've been poor since the England tour. Even against Lanka, they only picked up wickets because of the SL batsmens mistakes, not many of them were actually earned.
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This 'good guy' way of playing isn't they way forward imo. I want Milne, Henry and Boult. to fire up and really get in the batsmens faces. We're clearly lacking aggression and are easy to pick on because we either don't say anything or don't retaliate (Eililot and Mitch probably being the exceptions).
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WC came in playing some top notch cricket but surrendered meekly in the final. Then Test series in Aus came in after playing some quality cricket in Eng but again flopped. Same here. Defo a mental block by the look of it.
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So the trend of NZ underperformance vs Aus continues at home just as it did away, if not more. No draws this time, seems set for 0-2.
So nobody gives the kiwis any chance at all on day 5?
I mean we are in the box seat for sure but we have also stuffed up a disturbing number of these small chases over the years and we really have a long long tail, the two at the crease and smith and voges are in great form but after that there isn't much really so it could be 5 out all out.
I mean we are in the box seat for sure but we have also stuffed up a disturbing number of these small chases over the years and we really have a long long tail, the two at the crease and smith and voges are in great form but after that there isn't much really so it could be 5 out all out.
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No chance whatsoever unless NZ manage to bowl Oz out I reckon.
Probably the kiwis best shot at winning.
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No chance, I put money on Aus on day 2 when the odds were good. I predicted a 0-2 Test series defeat and 0-3 ODI defeat before the series.
This side has been playing terrible cricket, too many key players either out of form or just aren't good enough.
I can't exactly say whether they're not good enough, or if it's a form thing. The players I'm unsure are of are Southee, Boult and KW.
Nicolls, Guptill and Craig were all passengers this series, if anything is to come out of this, hopefully it's the realization that these guys should not be playing international cricket (Guptill being the exception in LOI's).
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In what way are you unsure about KW? The kid has averaged 70 in tests over this Aussie/NZ summer, and held the number 1 test batting ranking a few weeks ago.
Boult has been fairly mediocre since after the World Cup, which is a concern. I love watching him bowl, so hope that he'll be back to his best form sometime soon.
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Good bowlers have worked him out and have completely shut down his scoring options (on flat wickets, he has struggled to score runs when the ball is doing a bit too), he's yet to find a way to combat it. Even in his 90 today, he was hardly convincing.
They needed to take 3 wickets in the 20 overs with the new ball tonight.
65-3 chasing 201 would have been pretty hairy.
I congratulate Australia. Man for man I don't think that they are significantly better than NZ (I'd still have Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Watling and Boult in a composite side along with Warner, Khawaja, Voges, Smith, Lyon, Hazelwood and the absent Starc).
But Boof has had Australia playing proper, tough, resilient Test cricket.
While an inexperienced and weak Kiwi coach has allowed a brainless testosterone-fuelled skipper lead his team as if they were playing an ODI, with the result that they have been rightfully obliterated.
Congratulations to Smith and his men. They have massacred over 5 Tests a team whose personnel is not clearly inferior to their own.
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[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] ensuring that Williamson doesn't get overhyped way too much or else a failure here and there and the annoying pakpassion club would start bashing him all the way.
Btw a quality knock from Williamson just before the series was about to wrap up but should have kept on for a bit more to turn this one into a match saving one.
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You guys need more hit the deck bowlers for that. Wagner is your only one, the rest are really soft. Milne's got airspeed but he doesn't really have bounce. Boult and Henry the same.
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Latham hasn't done much since his big series in the UAE, I would have Burns in the side ahead of him too.
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I'm hoping NZ turn him into an enforced, a pace bowler who runs in hard and looks to intimidate the batsmen i.e. Wagner but with more pace.
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NZ commentators keep mentioning how the Aussies reversed the ball so early.
Is it a case of sour grape or do they have proof of foul play ?
If they don't have any evidence they shouldn't be making such accusations - it leaves a bitter taste.
Is it a case of sour grape or do they have proof of foul play ?
If they don't have any evidence they shouldn't be making such accusations - it leaves a bitter taste.
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Smith on fire.How did he reached 32 all of a sudden?
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Upside down drive. 
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A bit of both, the Aussies were warned twice for messing with the ball (not that I saw it, heard about it). Someone else here could probably confirm/quash the claim though.
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it's pretty much all the kiwi comms do when their side is getting beaten by the aussies, stop talking about the actual game and do their best to manufacture controversies.
This is the same lot that spent 3 days all but calling illingworth a cheat in the first test and then spent yesterday attacking hazlewood for getting angry at the exact same bloke.
Has to be remembered they know their audience well, kiwis like to play the role of victimized little brother so their audience laps it up.
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Emphatic series win for Aus, no doubt they are a much, much better side than us.
The run was fun while it lasted but it's back to mediocrity for us.
I can't see us winning a Test series for a while, we have SA, Zim and India away then Pakistan and SA at home again.
I wouldn't be surprised to see us drop a Test to Zim too, if they were able to win one against Pakistan, they're more than capable of taking one against us.
The run was fun while it lasted but it's back to mediocrity for us.
I can't see us winning a Test series for a while, we have SA, Zim and India away then Pakistan and SA at home again.
I wouldn't be surprised to see us drop a Test to Zim too, if they were able to win one against Pakistan, they're more than capable of taking one against us.
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The Australians were warned for throwing the ball back to the bowler on the bounce.
I mean obviously it was to scuff up the ball but it's not bottle top/zipper stuff
The reverse looked a lot more effective for us because we had patto as well, if nz had say a shane bond out there with the reverse they were getting it would have been a much different contest and that movement would have suddenly looked more extravagant.
Didn't help that bmac had all but given up on that side of things anyway, he wasn't even trying to attack the stumps it was just bang it in and hope we played silly shots again, guess it's a sign he has really lost faith in his strike bowlers southee and boult.
Didn't help that bmac had all but given up on that side of things anyway, he wasn't even trying to attack the stumps it was just bang it in and hope we played silly shots again, guess it's a sign he has really lost faith in his strike bowlers southee and boult.
Are they proper test series in sa/ind or more of the 2 test rubbish?
Also i know you are down in the dumps right now but you are not going to lose a test to Zimbabwe, generally though i agree it's a tough schedule, Pakistan at home might be the only major series where you start as fav's and even then they have a great record vs nz.
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The Kiwi opening bowlers were just cross seaming it while Wagner was just banging it. Not surprising they didn't get swing
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2 Test series against SA and 3 against India.
Against our bowlers, all you have to do is be patient, they're not going to get you out if the ball isn't doing anything. For that reason, I can't see any reason Zim can't upset us, they will have seen this series and seen the way to bat against our bowlers.
What was embarrassing really was how ineffective our bowlers were, I've seen players in club cricket bowl better with the older ball and with more heart than the likes of Boult, Southee and Henry. Just have a look at Wagner, the guy gave it his all out there despite not possessing as much talent as those 3 and was the only NZ bowler who could walk off with his head held high.
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Wagner banging the ball scuffed up both sides and softened the ball which is why NZ's reverse didn't last long. Once it's scuffed you have to avoid bowling cross seam or the ball will go dud.
Australia took much better care of the ball and kept the seam upright throughout even for shorter lengths.
Australia took much better care of the ball and kept the seam upright throughout even for shorter lengths.
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Had an awesome time watching this game live at the ground for 4 of the 5 days. Shame about the result but its shows that Aussie are still a far better test team in particular their batting and the NZ bowling attack has really regressed since the departure of Shane Bond as bowling coach. Also our depth is exposed with Ross Taylor out of that middle order it looks far too fragile.
Lastly huge respect for Neil Wagner. That guy just steams in and bowls his heart out even with a broken finger and split webbing on his bowling hand. Massive crowd favorite.
Lastly huge respect for Neil Wagner. That guy just steams in and bowls his heart out even with a broken finger and split webbing on his bowling hand. Massive crowd favorite.
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[MENTION=100030]trogger[/MENTION] [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION] you were saying?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11594927
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11594927
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