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Australia [467 & 168/5d] defeat New Zealand [148 & 240] by 247 runs to win 2nd Test; Seal series 2-0

We both got violated badly i wouldnt try take any pride out of who got slightly less thumped.
 
Amazing to observe how India has utterly dominated lethal Ozzie attacks again and again, especially last time despite playing recklessly in one innings to force a quick result

Batting averages of Indian batsmen against Australia in Australia in the last series:

Pujara 74+
Mayank Aggarwal 65+
Rishab Pant 58+
Kohli 40+ last series but 86+ in the one before that
Vijay 60+ in the one before the last series
 
BreadPakoda said:
Amazing to observe how India has utterly dominated lethal Ozzie attacks again and again, especially last time despite playing recklessly in one innings to force a quick result

Batting averages of Indian batsmen against Australia in Australia in the last series:

Pujara 74+
Mayank Aggarwal 65+
Rishab Pant 58+
Kohli 40+ last series but 86+ in the one before that
Vijay 60+ in the one before the last series
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No disrespect but Last years bowling attack of theirs looked toothless,they were recovering from ball tampering saga,It will be interesting to see next year when these two team face each other.
 
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andy0204 said:
No disrespect but Last years bowling attack of theirs looked toothless they were recovering from ball tampering saga,It will be interesting to see next year when these two team face each other.
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Ya, absolutely forgot. It wasn't the reinvigorated attack, it was the toothless one.
 
Beating Australia in Austrlaia requires a lot of patience, ability to wear them out and win sessions. They have been true wickets for a long time. Good batsman should be able to score runs. Big runs. You need centuries there to win matches.

Since 2000 centuries against Australia in Australia. Top 3 teams have done better than the other teams in Australia. It coincides with number of centuries. You need batting resource to outbat them.

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What a disgraceful performance. Take out Wagner and this team is the absolute pits. Extremely disappointed with Williamson who threw away his wicket instead of fighting it out. Not expected from the captain and leading batsman of the #2 side in the world which we clearly do not deserve to be.

Credit to Australia for a thoroughly professional performance.
 
andy0204 said:
No disrespect but Last years bowling attack of theirs looked toothless,they were recovering from ball tampering saga,It will be interesting to see next year when these two team face each other.
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I don't think their bowling was toothless. Pujara was the difference. He wore them out. I watched the entire series live. Highly penetrative bowling by CUmmins/Hazlewood. They were relentless. Just that Pujara was even more relentless. He kept leaving them. It was such a fascination battle between Pujara and OZ bowlers.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I don't think their bowling was toothless. Pujara was the difference. He wore them out. I watched the entire series live. Highly penetrative bowling by CUmmins/Hazlewood. They were relentless. Just that Pujara was even more relentless. He kept leaving them. It was such a fascination battle between Pujara and OZ bowlers.
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Pujara is a high quality Test player , very much underrated here
 
Day 3: Australia lead by 347 runs with 10 wickets remaining

Tea

Aussies in total command here.
 
Well i was at the ground for day 1, 2 and up till tea today but ive had enough now. Awesome venue and crowds but shame NZ couldnt put up a fight with the bat.
 
I have never known New Zealand to be so uncompetitive as they have been in this series. They have always played their worst cricket against Australia but this is even worse than that. Truly awful. Even Pakistan were able to score 300+ and that attack included Hazelwood.
 
NZ 148
AUS 467, 68/1 (23.3) CRR: 2.89
Day 3: 3rd Session - Australia lead by 387 runs
 
Smudger said:
On top of that now the aussies have found marnus which has made their batting rock solid
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Actually Marnus was part of the squad and he even played a game. But that Marnus wasn't the Marnus that we see today, who is reinvigorated.
 
Mitchell Santner has survived a contentious caught-out review as the Decision Review System was again thrust into the spotlight on day three of the Boxing Day Test.

Test greats Ricky Ponting, Mark Waugh and Shane Warne led calls that third umpire Aleem Dar erred in not overturning a review for a catch, while current fast bowler James Pattinson said Australia were convinced the wrong decision had been made.

Australia challenged on-field official Marais Erasmus' decision to give Santner not out after a Mitchell Starc bouncer reared off the batsman and was caught by Travis Head at leg gully.

After consulting with close fielders Marnus Labuschagne and Matthew Wade, who both indicated they believed ball had hit glove before armguard, captain Tim Paine signalled for the review.

The hosts begun celebrating when replays appeared to show the ball making contact with the sweat band of Santner's right glove, which is considered part of the bat of the bat under the Laws of Cricket.

But following a lengthy deliberation, Dar deemed there was "inconclusive" evidence to overturn Erasmus' original decision.

"It looked like it touched the sweatband," Pattinson told Fox Cricket with New Zealand 6-102 at lunch and Santner still at the crease on one not out.

"I suppose you have to go with the on-field umpire's decision but there's a bit of speculation on it."

A pair of decisions the previous day prompted Paine to question the accuracy of ball-tracking technology, but Saturday's incident put the accuracy of a television umpire's verdict into focus.

"That has been missed by the third umpire, absolutely as plain as day," Ponting said on commentary for Channel Seven.

"If you can't get that right, then you shouldn't be doing it. (The sweatband) clearly moves before it goes into the forearm guard. That in my opinion is conclusive evidence."

Warne, on Fox Cricket, concurred, as did Waugh, who said: "That is a very poor decision by the third umpire. You can clearly see the band on the top of the glove moving after the ball brushed it.

"That type of decision is exactly why DRS is used in the game."

Paine told ABC Radio after play on Friday that he "has got a few doubts" about the DRS process after a pair of decisions went against Australia on day two.

In sight of a maiden Test century, Australia's captain walked off shaking his head after being given out lbw for 79 on review to Neil Wagner. Ball-tracking technology suggested he'd been struck just inside the line of off stump.

The hosts then had Ross Taylor given out lbw on field during the final session, but were left stunned when Pattinson's delivery was predicted to have gone over the top of the stumps.

"Oh Christ," Paine told cricket.com.au in exasperation when asked about Australia's DRS dramas. "You've got to be careful what you say about it, don't you?"

"It's difficult to read … I was surprised by the one tonight (off Taylor)."

Speaking to the ABC, he added: "I'm just seeing time and time again, what I see to the naked eye, or watching it on television in real time, and then when it comes up it is sometimes a little bit off the mark."

Domain Test Series v New Zealand

Australia squad: David Warner, Joe Burns, Marnus Labuschagne, Steve Smith, Matthew Wade, Travis Head, Tim Paine (c, wk), Pat Cummins, Mitch Starc, Nathan Lyon, James Pattinson, Michael Neser, Mitchell Swepson

New Zealand: Todd Astle, Tom Blundell, Trent Boult, Colin de Grandhomme, Matt Henry, Kyle Jamieson, Tom Latham, Henry Nicholls, Jeet Raval, Mitchell Santner, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor, BJ Watling, Neil Wagner, Kane Williamson (c)

First Test: Australia won by 296 runs in Perth

Second Test: December 26-30, MCG (Seven, Fox & Kayo)

Third Test: January 3-7, SCG (Seven, Fox & Kayo)

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/mit...m-dar-tim-paine-marais-erasmus-mcg/2019-12-28

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/mit...m-dar-tim-paine-marais-erasmus-mcg/2019-12-28
 
MenInG said:
Mitchell Santner has survived a contentious caught-out review as the Decision Review System was again thrust into the spotlight on day three of the Boxing Day Test.

Test greats Ricky Ponting, Mark Waugh and Shane Warne led calls that third umpire Aleem Dar erred in not overturning a review for a catch, while current fast bowler James Pattinson said Australia were convinced the wrong decision had been made.

Australia challenged on-field official Marais Erasmus' decision to give Santner not out after a Mitchell Starc bouncer reared off the batsman and was caught by Travis Head at leg gully.

After consulting with close fielders Marnus Labuschagne and Matthew Wade, who both indicated they believed ball had hit glove before armguard, captain Tim Paine signalled for the review.

The hosts begun celebrating when replays appeared to show the ball making contact with the sweat band of Santner's right glove, which is considered part of the bat of the bat under the Laws of Cricket.

But following a lengthy deliberation, Dar deemed there was "inconclusive" evidence to overturn Erasmus' original decision.

"It looked like it touched the sweatband," Pattinson told Fox Cricket with New Zealand 6-102 at lunch and Santner still at the crease on one not out.

"I suppose you have to go with the on-field umpire's decision but there's a bit of speculation on it."

A pair of decisions the previous day prompted Paine to question the accuracy of ball-tracking technology, but Saturday's incident put the accuracy of a television umpire's verdict into focus.

"That has been missed by the third umpire, absolutely as plain as day," Ponting said on commentary for Channel Seven.

"If you can't get that right, then you shouldn't be doing it. (The sweatband) clearly moves before it goes into the forearm guard. That in my opinion is conclusive evidence."

Warne, on Fox Cricket, concurred, as did Waugh, who said: "That is a very poor decision by the third umpire. You can clearly see the band on the top of the glove moving after the ball brushed it.

"That type of decision is exactly why DRS is used in the game."

Paine told ABC Radio after play on Friday that he "has got a few doubts" about the DRS process after a pair of decisions went against Australia on day two.

In sight of a maiden Test century, Australia's captain walked off shaking his head after being given out lbw for 79 on review to Neil Wagner. Ball-tracking technology suggested he'd been struck just inside the line of off stump.

The hosts then had Ross Taylor given out lbw on field during the final session, but were left stunned when Pattinson's delivery was predicted to have gone over the top of the stumps.

"Oh Christ," Paine told cricket.com.au in exasperation when asked about Australia's DRS dramas. "You've got to be careful what you say about it, don't you?"

"It's difficult to read … I was surprised by the one tonight (off Taylor)."

Speaking to the ABC, he added: "I'm just seeing time and time again, what I see to the naked eye, or watching it on television in real time, and then when it comes up it is sometimes a little bit off the mark."

Domain Test Series v New Zealand

Australia squad: David Warner, Joe Burns, Marnus Labuschagne, Steve Smith, Matthew Wade, Travis Head, Tim Paine (c, wk), Pat Cummins, Mitch Starc, Nathan Lyon, James Pattinson, Michael Neser, Mitchell Swepson

New Zealand: Todd Astle, Tom Blundell, Trent Boult, Colin de Grandhomme, Matt Henry, Kyle Jamieson, Tom Latham, Henry Nicholls, Jeet Raval, Mitchell Santner, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor, BJ Watling, Neil Wagner, Kane Williamson (c)

First Test: Australia won by 296 runs in Perth

Second Test: December 26-30, MCG (Seven, Fox & Kayo)

Third Test: January 3-7, SCG (Seven, Fox & Kayo)

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/mit...m-dar-tim-paine-marais-erasmus-mcg/2019-12-28

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/mit...m-dar-tim-paine-marais-erasmus-mcg/2019-12-28
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[MENTION=10089]ricky[/MENTION]Ponting: "That has been missed by the third umpire, absolutely as plain as day ... if you can't get that right, then you shouldn't be doing it.

"(The sweatband) clearly moves before it goes into the forearm guard. That in my opinion is conclusive evidence."
 
I was watching the game at that time when that review was taken by Australia against Santner. Honestly, I will go with exactly what Ian Smith said in the commentary. There wasn't enough conclusive evidence to overturn the original decision of not out. Unnecessary controversy IMO.
 
andy0204 said:
No disrespect but Last years bowling attack of theirs looked toothless,they were recovering from ball tampering saga,It will be interesting to see next year when these two team face each other.
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no. india made them look toothless. Against australia you have to wear them out. It's a war of attrition. That's why toss matters in australia.
 
We may not have competed and have gotten wrecked but we've found a weakness for Smith.

You're welcome India.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Smith is Wagner's bunny. Official now.
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still. He is the best right now along with kohli. Rabada and now Wagner have figured him out. However a player of his quality will learn from mistakes I am sure.

next series vs india will decide who is better out of kohli or smithy.

By the looks of it, Mayank and even marnus might be ahead of both soon. Not to mention Shaw and head isn't too shabby either.
 
Aman said:
We may not have competed and have gotten wrecked but we've found a weakness for Smith.

You're welcome India.
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rabada already has made him his little bunny before but the issue now is marnus for all teams. Smith always bounces back strong. He will learn for sure.

Full credit to Wagner. Great bowling.
 
tyron_woodley said:
rabada already has made him his little bunny before but the issue now is marnus for all teams. Smith always bounces back strong. He will learn for sure.

Full credit to Wagner. Great bowling.
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But this is a tactic every team can target Smith with.
 
Wagner's 200th wicket- his bunny(Steven Smith)

Congratulations to him!
 
Australia lead by 456 runs with 6 wickets in hand

Australia will declare tomorrow and look to knockout kiwis and win.
 
NZ 148
AUS 467, 137/4 (45.0) CRR: 3.04
Day 3: Stumps - Australia lead by 456 runs

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Space Cat said:
Well i was at the ground for day 1, 2 and up till tea today but ive had enough now. Awesome venue and crowds but shame NZ couldnt put up a fight with the bat.
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Do you think it's just NZ being NZ in Aus and are still a quality side or have you lost all faith in the team?
 
Boult ruled out of series with fractured hand

New Zealand's difficult tour of Australia has become all the more challenging with news that left-arm paceman Trent Boult has suffered a fracture in his right hand and will miss the remainder of the series.

Boult was struck on the hand by Mitchell Starc while batting in New Zealand's first innings at the MCG on day three of the second Domain Test, and was treated on-field before resuming his innings. He was the last Black Caps wicket to fall with tourists capitulating to 148 all out to surrender a 319-run first-inning advantage.

Boult then got through nine overs with the ball but the diagnosis seems likely to rule him out for the rest of the match, in which New Zealand now trail by 456 runs.

"Trent Boult suffered a fracture to the second-metacarpal of his right hand after being struck while batting on day three of the second Test against Australia in Melbourne," a press statement from New Zealand read.

"An X-ray during the tea break confirmed the undisplaced fracture which will require around four weeks of rehabilitation, meaning Boult will return home to New Zealand at the end of the Test.

"A replacement player will be confirmed in due course."

Boult missed the first Test of the series due to a rib issue, with Lockie Ferguson debuting in his stead, however the express quick suffered a calf injury mid-match and was replaced in the touring party ahead of the Boxing Day Test by rookie quick Kyle Jamieson, who is yet to play a match for New Zealand in any format.

"We've been really encouraged by his progress in the New Zealand Cricket winter camps and his performances for New Zealand A," coach Gary Stead said.

"Standing at over two-metres tall he obviously gets good bounce and brings something different to our other pace bowlers.

"It will be his first time in camp and we're looking forward to welcoming him into the Black Caps environment."

Jamieson or the more experienced Matt Henry, who is also in the squad, could be in line for a call-up for the third Test at the SCG, beginning January 3.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/tre...elbourne-mcg-australia-new-zealand/2019-12-28
 
Ahmed4472 said:
Did get his fifty but didn't go past it. He listened to you fifty percent and completed his fifty.
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He had to grind out very hard for his runs,so probably deserved a 50 as he has nothing to show in any of the other inning. But at this level, a 50 hardly means anything.

Good batsmen but quality pace bowling attack can easily work him. Plays spin well and hence successful in Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.
 
Man NZ surely got a massive mental block against Australia. They are a much better team than this.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Man NZ surely got a massive mental block against Australia. They are a much better team than this.
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NZ don't have a bowler in the match who has even managed to hit 140k at all. Not once.

Oz have 2 bowlers who bowl 140+ every over.

No contest.

Kiwi's are pretenders. They can beat minnows but Southee is club level outswing. Boult hasn't performed and Wagner will slowly eke out 4-5 wickets but it will take him two days to get them without any strike bowler cracking the order open for him. Santner is a regrettable selection as a Test player. Pick a serious spinner please.

A bit disappointed the Kiwi's haven't turned up for this series.
 
Ajaz Bhai is a superior test spinner . Not sure why kiwis have gone for santner. Maybe going for junaids logic for playing the best batsman among spinners.
 
wrongun said:
NZ don't have a bowler in the match who has even managed to hit 140k at all. Not once.

Oz have 2 bowlers who bowl 140+ every over.

No contest.

Kiwi's are pretenders. They can beat minnows but Southee is club level outswing. Boult hasn't performed and Wagner will slowly eke out 4-5 wickets but it will take him two days to get them without any strike bowler cracking the order open for him. Santner is a regrettable selection as a Test player. Pick a serious spinner please.

A bit disappointed the Kiwi's haven't turned up for this series.
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That's incredibly harsh. NZ have beaten the likes of Pakistan, SL, WI, England in recent times. They are not all minnows. I'd back them to do well against this SA side as well. Full strength Australia at home are near invincible currently. Can't judge them based on the performance here.
 
Wow kiwis have been even worse then pakistan with the bat, just shows how much most touring teams struggle here.
 
Hawkeye said:
Do you think it's just NZ being NZ in Aus and are still a quality side or have you lost all faith in the team?
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We clearly have a mental a bloke against the aussies in test cricket. On paper we should be more competitive but we get there and they are at our throats from ball 1.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Wow kiwis have been even worse then pakistan with the bat, just shows how much most touring teams struggle here.
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You have to go session by session. You could be 112/0 in one session and become 140/4 in the next and eventually get skittled out for 240. Same thing happens in SA. Difference is you can contain SA batting the same way they contain you. SO there is a chance. But in Australia just because you get bowled out for 250, don't expect Australia to do the same on those true wickets. They will pile on your misery by scoring big. So there is a double threat. Bowling and batting.
 
Space Cat said:
We clearly have a mental a bloke against the aussies in test cricket. On paper we should be more competitive but we get there and they are at our throats from ball 1.
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I think on paper NZ dont compare to Australia, if you look at the teams man for man NZ have far more weaknesses than Australia and playing in Australia your weaknesses get exposed. In many countries one player can make a big difference in a match but in Australia it is harder for one or two players to make a big difference, it takes a team effort to win. In NZ one big innings can shape a match or one bowler being on song can destroy a team, its different in Australia you need your bowlers to bowl well as a team and your batsmen to build multiple parnerships.
 
wrongun said:
NZ don't have a bowler in the match who has even managed to hit 140k at all. Not once.

Oz have 2 bowlers who bowl 140+ every over.

No contest.

Kiwi's are pretenders. They can beat minnows but Southee is club level outswing. Boult hasn't performed and Wagner will slowly eke out 4-5 wickets but it will take him two days to get them without any strike bowler cracking the order open for him. Santner is a regrettable selection as a Test player. Pick a serious spinner please.

A bit disappointed the Kiwi's haven't turned up for this series.
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Wagner is striking at 37 balls per wicket in 2019 and his career strike rate is 51.

Thats not slow at all champ.
 
Gilly said:
I think on paper NZ dont compare to Australia, if you look at the teams man for man NZ have far more weaknesses than Australia and playing in Australia your weaknesses get exposed. In many countries one player can make a big difference in a match but in Australia it is harder for one or two players to make a big difference, it takes a team effort to win. In NZ one big innings can shape a match or one bowler being on song can destroy a team, its different in Australia you need your bowlers to bowl well as a team and your batsmen to build multiple parnerships.
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Australias big players are certainly more impactful and in those conditions the rest of the passengers like wade paine etc can contribute easier. However we should be able to do better than this.
 
Space Cat said:
Australias big players are certainly more impactful and in those conditions the rest of the passengers like wade paine etc can contribute easier. However we should be able to do better than this.
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If you think Paine has been a passenger then yes you will have trouble understanding the difference between teams.
 
Space Cat said:
Enlighten me on his stellar career before this series.
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Teams dont win series with stellar careers, it is playing as a team.

What good has a stellar career done for Boult in this match, Taylor has a stellar career but Paine has out batted him in this series. You have to focus on today.
 
Gilly said:
Teams dont win series with stellar careers, it is playing as a team.

What good has a stellar career done for Boult in this match, Taylor has a stellar career but Paine has out batted him in this series. You have to focus on today.
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We are talking about the teams on paper heading into this series or did you get lost along the way. Tim Paine is a passenger generally and due to the conditions and NZ being ground down by Australias greater impact players he was able to be more impactful himself.

The part about boult and taylor actually backs up my point perfectly so thanks for that wee helper.
 
Space Cat said:
We are talking about the teams on paper heading into this series or did you get lost along the way. Tim Paine is a passenger generally and due to the conditions and NZ being ground down by Australias greater impact players he was able to be more impactful himself.

The part about boult and taylor actually backs up my point perfectly so thanks for that wee helper.
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Cool, we will just go with that then.
 
We're get wrecked when we bat but that's the only time the match is really interesting. Top quality bowling and wickets.
 
to beat Aussies you need to win the war of attrition. Wear their fast bowlers out with solid batting technique to counter bouncers.

You are bound to get hit. Be prepared for it. Good thing is you can dish out the same treatment to them. You have to be tough to win in Australia.

As for bowling, you need to be fit. Got to be fit and bowl fast. fast medium or express bowlers will do well if they can get their lengths right. Bowl at the right lengths, around full length and use the bouncer ball sparingly as a surprise attack.
Don't overdo bouncers as many teams that tour australia do. They get carried away by the bounce as many have never encountered such a springy surface before, particularly subcontinent bowlers.

Anyway key is fitness and bowling the right lengths at fast medium + pace. anything above 138 would be ideal.

As for batting, yes solid defense with ability to counter bouncer is a must. Don't tour if you can't play bouncers.
 
Should forfeit the third match and avoid humilation.

Completely pathetic.

NZC should apologize to CA for the level of performances the team has produced. Don't deserve to tour for another 32 years.
 
Pattinson is australias best bowler.

Cummins lacks variety
Starc and Hazelwood are very inconsistent.
 
This is arguably the best Australian side since Ponting retired. Really liked the fact that now there is atleast one team that can challenge us, otherwise rest are just half good as the current Indian side.
 
Expected better from no 2 ranked team. NZ even in their good form in tests in last few years havent won a series in Aus, SA, Eng or India, the only tough overseas series they won was in UAE vs Pak.
 
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