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No ones asking you to solve 11 rubiks cubes in one go

Get rid of world poverty

Etc etc

All you have to do is to beat India in the Champions Trophy 2025 final so us Pakistanis, your gracious hosts, can sleep with a smile..
 
ROW still fighting in the final

The hopes are alive
 
Yup.

I think even many non-Pakistanis (including myself) want India to lose. :inti

Hoping for a Kiwi win in the end.
Even as an Indian and a cricket fan, I want New Zealand to lift this trophy. The BCCI has brought shame to cricket, its fans, and our country.
 
No ones asking you to solve 11 rubiks cubes in one go

Get rid of world poverty

Etc etc

All you have to do is to beat India in the Champions Trophy 2025 final so us Pakistanis, your gracious hosts, can sleep with a smile..
Abhi match baaki hai sir.. dont lose hope!
 
Spinners bowling 40 overs in a 50 overs final match of an international tournament. And a team packing itself with spinners to play on turning wickets for all it's matches of a global tournament. And repeat the same script each time.

So much of this doesn't make sense. Monopoly is an understatement.
 
come on.. you ain't Indian.
Yes, I am an Indian, but that doesn’t mean I will blindly support wrongdoing in the name of nationalism. These days, most Indians neither respect cricket players nor the game itself—they only care about winning, no matter the means.

When Hardik Pandya was appointed captain of Mumbai Indians, the crowd in the stadium booed him and hurled vile abuses at his mother and sister. If people can’t even respect their own players, what expectations can we have from them?

That said, there are many Indian cricket fans, like me, who acknowledge the unfair treatment BCCI and ICC have shown towards other countries. For me, values will always matter more than any trophy or title.
 
Yes, I am an Indian, but that doesn’t mean I will blindly support wrongdoing in the name of nationalism. These days, most Indians neither respect cricket players nor the game itself—they only care about winning, no matter the means.

When Hardik Pandya was appointed captain of Mumbai Indians, the crowd in the stadium booed him and hurled vile abuses at his mother and sister. If people can’t even respect their own players, what expectations can we have from them?

That said, there are many Indian cricket fans, like me, who acknowledge the unfair treatment BCCI and ICC have shown towards other countries. For me, values will always matter more than any trophy or title.
You don't have to prove your nationality to those who ran away from India themselves. Let them bark. :inti
 
Yes, I am an Indian, but that doesn’t mean I will blindly support wrongdoing in the name of nationalism. These days, most Indians neither respect cricket players nor the game itself—they only care about winning, no matter the means.

When Hardik Pandya was appointed captain of Mumbai Indians, the crowd in the stadium booed him and hurled vile abuses at his mother and sister. If people can’t even respect their own players, what expectations can we have from them?

That said, there are many Indian cricket fans, like me, who acknowledge the unfair treatment BCCI and ICC have shown towards other countries. For me, values will always matter more than any trophy or title.
What unfair treatment? PCB accepted this hybrid model with the assurance that the Pakistan team would get the same arrangement in the WT20 2026. Everyone in this forum was celebrating at the time, calling it a huge victory for Mohsin Naqvi over BCCI. What happened suddenly? Just because Pakistan lost to New Zealand three times in one week and got eliminated from the tournament within four days, posters are now finding flaws in this arrangement and blaming BCCI and ICC.

PCB’s initial plan was to host all India matches in Lahore. So even if India had agreed to tour Pakistan, they would have still played all their matches at one venue. PCB should have never accepted the hybrid model. Now that they have, there is no point in whining. India and New Zealand played the best cricket and are the deserving finalists.
 
Hopefully NZ will teach us a lesson that we will remember for lifetime. :inti
 
Spinners bowling 40 overs in a 50 overs final match of an international tournament. And a team packing itself with spinners to play on turning wickets for all it's matches of a global tournament. And repeat the same script each time.

So much of this doesn't make sense. Monopoly is an understatement.
sorry, but we Pakistanis have no right to complain about this.

Pakistan has 15 years of experience playing in Dubai, even i knew that spinners would be important. The fact we still lost in Dubai is very shameful for us.

We should had done the same thing in Dubai
 
sorry, but we Pakistanis have no right to complain about this.

Pakistan has 15 years of experience playing in Dubai, even i knew that spinners would be important. The fact we still lost in Dubai is very shameful for us.

We should had done the same thing in Dubai
That's fine, we lost.

The point is every team prepares a balanced squad of 15 for a tournament as they know there will be variety of challenges.

India is the only team to prepare a squad exclusively for playing on one pitch. That's absurd and biased.

The fact that ICC is openly allowing this monopoly to happen is a testament that the great game has now become a farce.
 
That's fine, we lost.

The point is every team prepares a balanced squad of 15 for a tournament as they know there will be variety of challenges.

India is the only team to prepare a squad exclusively for playing on one pitch. That's absurd and biased.

The fact that ICC is openly allowing this monopoly to happen is a testament that the great game has now become a farce.
India played similarly in world cup in india on different pitches. India being able to read pitches better just shows the incompetence of other teams

No one asked pakistan to play 3 out of form seamers on Dubai pitches when they have Sajid and Nauman in their own country.
 
If there was one team who has the bowling and fielding to defend 250, that is NZ.

As much as I would like to see an Indian win because the ODI format needs an Indian win, but NZ victory will certainly give many a good night sleep.
 
Bro we are losing this match because of fielding .

We can't chase 252 just like We didn't Chased 242 in world cup 2019 against NZ.

advance congratulations to the Pakistan fan's for winning the champion trophy.

:kp
 
This is a decent total for a tournament final.

I would have felt a bit more confident restricting them below 240.

Although the way Rachin was going initially, I’d say it’s been a good rescue operation from the spinner to restrict them to 251.

Wickets is the key

If Bharat keeps a lot of wickets intact by 15-20 overs into the game; they would have a very strong chance to go all the way.
 
Bro we are losing this match because of fielding .

We can't chase 252 just like We didn't Chased 242 in world cup 2019 against NZ.

advance congratulations to the Pakistan fan's for winning the champion trophy.

:kp
Man, are you guys still not tired if these ploys? With the pitch not assisting spin as the previous match with NZ and Matt Henry out. India is the favourite to win this. If NZ still manage to win, it will be an upset. You need to stop this as it's getting stale.
 
Meanwhile me, using the Javellin Olympic Gold as the next narrative till we win another ICC trophy.

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250 is just not good enough in Dubai and India would have won the toss and preferred to chase anyway I reckon, NZ should have thought a bit more out the box here.
 
Poor The best team in the tournament and world deserves to win. If that is India then so be it.
 
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Congratulations to Indian fans, their team has good blend of players, and played sensible cricket utilising their experience well.
 
‘Only a matter of time before they win one’ - Ponting on New Zealand’s Champions Trophy campaign

Ricky Ponting believes that despite missing out on the title, New Zealand can be proud of their runner-up finish at the Champions Trophy.

Speaking to Crystal Arnold on the latest edition of The ICC Review after the final, Ponting said, “I don't think it (New Zealand’s campaign) went wrong at all. I think they had another outstanding tournament. They were brilliant right the way through.

“I was asked at the start of the tournament who I thought the final four would be, and as soon as you start talking about top fours for ICC events, you just have to put New Zealand in it, because they just always do it.

“And I didn't do it this time because I thought Pakistan would make it being at home, and I thought South Africa would make it. So I didn't have New Zealand there and sure enough there they are again.

“And what a dominant performance it was against South Africa in their semi-final to make it through to the final. You probably can't play a better game of one-day cricket than that. To bat first and make 360-odd, I think it's the highest total ever in a Champions Trophy game.”

Ponting went on to applaud the exploits of Matt Henry, who missed out on the final owing to an injury - closing the tournament as the leading wicket-taker.

“They just came up against a really good team in the final, and they weren't far away. India won in the 49th or 50th over. They haven't done a lot wrong," Ponting continued.

“And that's without some of their stars actually performing in that final. And that's without Matt Henry being fit in that final as well, who was their leading wicket-taker going into it. So they've had a great campaign.

“And if they keep putting themselves there, it's only a matter of time before they will (win an ICC tournament).”

Another prominent feature of the Black Caps squad was Glenn Phillips, who contributed in all three facets of the game - especially pulling off stunning catches in the field.

A prime fielder for Australia back in the day himself, Ponting was all praise for the New Zealander’s fielding and believes he’s in the upper echelons of the department with some of the very best.

“If you put the highlights reel together, his is now probably better than anyone. He hasn't played anywhere near as many games as Herschelle Gibbs, (AB) de Villiers, Andrew Symonds or Paul Collingwood, these guys that were always known as being the great fielders. (Ravindra) Jadeja is another one.”

Ponting then delved into the technical aspects of Phillips’ work.

“But his agility is something that is just unbelievable. His ability to launch himself for catches, and a lot of them are one-handers as well, so it's not just the agility, but you've still got to hang on to the ball, you've got to catch it," Ponting added.

Picking his favourite off Phillips’ highlights reel at the Champions Trophy, Ponting added, “I saw a quote before saying that he thought that catch in the final (that of Shubman Gill) was his best. I don't think that was as good as the Kohli one (last group game against India), to be honest.

“I watched that catch a few times, I actually think he could have got that with two hands, and that made that probably look a bit more spectacular than it needed to be, but some of his other catches, I mean, they're unbelievably good.

“I've seen it in Test cricket as well. He's taken some in Test cricket in that same area at backward point.”

ICC
 
250 is just not good enough in Dubai and India would have won the toss and preferred to chase anyway I reckon, NZ should have thought a bit more out the box here.

Agreed.
I reckon they should have bowled first. Bharat isn’t really known for batting teams out of the match in tournament finals. At best we would have scored 280. NZ should have taken that chance by thinking a bit out of the box.
 
‘Only a matter of time before they win one’ - Ponting on New Zealand’s Champions Trophy campaign

Ricky Ponting believes that despite missing out on the title, New Zealand can be proud of their runner-up finish at the Champions Trophy.

Speaking to Crystal Arnold on the latest edition of The ICC Review after the final, Ponting said, “I don't think it (New Zealand’s campaign) went wrong at all. I think they had another outstanding tournament. They were brilliant right the way through.

“I was asked at the start of the tournament who I thought the final four would be, and as soon as you start talking about top fours for ICC events, you just have to put New Zealand in it, because they just always do it.

“And I didn't do it this time because I thought Pakistan would make it being at home, and I thought South Africa would make it. So I didn't have New Zealand there and sure enough there they are again.

“And what a dominant performance it was against South Africa in their semi-final to make it through to the final. You probably can't play a better game of one-day cricket than that. To bat first and make 360-odd, I think it's the highest total ever in a Champions Trophy game.”

Ponting went on to applaud the exploits of Matt Henry, who missed out on the final owing to an injury - closing the tournament as the leading wicket-taker.

“They just came up against a really good team in the final, and they weren't far away. India won in the 49th or 50th over. They haven't done a lot wrong," Ponting continued.

“And that's without some of their stars actually performing in that final. And that's without Matt Henry being fit in that final as well, who was their leading wicket-taker going into it. So they've had a great campaign.

“And if they keep putting themselves there, it's only a matter of time before they will (win an ICC tournament).”

Another prominent feature of the Black Caps squad was Glenn Phillips, who contributed in all three facets of the game - especially pulling off stunning catches in the field.

A prime fielder for Australia back in the day himself, Ponting was all praise for the New Zealander’s fielding and believes he’s in the upper echelons of the department with some of the very best.

“If you put the highlights reel together, his is now probably better than anyone. He hasn't played anywhere near as many games as Herschelle Gibbs, (AB) de Villiers, Andrew Symonds or Paul Collingwood, these guys that were always known as being the great fielders. (Ravindra) Jadeja is another one.”

Ponting then delved into the technical aspects of Phillips’ work.

“But his agility is something that is just unbelievable. His ability to launch himself for catches, and a lot of them are one-handers as well, so it's not just the agility, but you've still got to hang on to the ball, you've got to catch it," Ponting added.

Picking his favourite off Phillips’ highlights reel at the Champions Trophy, Ponting added, “I saw a quote before saying that he thought that catch in the final (that of Shubman Gill) was his best. I don't think that was as good as the Kohli one (last group game against India), to be honest.

“I watched that catch a few times, I actually think he could have got that with two hands, and that made that probably look a bit more spectacular than it needed to be, but some of his other catches, I mean, they're unbelievably good.

“I've seen it in Test cricket as well. He's taken some in Test cricket in that same area at backward point.”

ICC

I agree.
Cricket looks rock solid in NZ and with a superstar like Rachin Ravindra who is going to be a MOTT contender in every trophy for the next 10 years, they’re comfortably knocking at semi finals and will probably cross that hurdle at some point. Almost did it this year
 
Agreed.
I reckon they should have bowled first. Bharat isn’t really known for batting teams out of the match in tournament finals. At best we would have scored 280. NZ should have taken that chance by thinking a bit out of the box.
Naah, 2nd innings it spun more.

NZ would have been bundled out for 200 odd.
 
NZ beat Pakistan thrice in Pakistan recently.

But since the last couple of years, they have become Bharat's bunny in ODI cricket. Lost all 7 of their 7 matches against us .

They bowlers fear Hitman as Santner himself admitted in the press conference in the match.

NZ are a very well planned outfit. But as Mike Tyson paaji taught us "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth by Hitman " :inti
 
NZ beat Pakistan thrice in Pakistan recently.

But since the last couple of years, they have become Bharat's bunny in ODI cricket. Lost all 7 of their 7 matches against us .

They bowlers fear Hitman as Santner himself admitted in the press conference in the match.

NZ are a very well planned outfit. But as Mike Tyson paaji taught us "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth by Hitman " :inti
India has reached a level where only England and Australia can defeat them for the next decade.

Not maybe the current teams but those two countries have higher ceilings due to their infrastructure.

Post that, no chance.
 
India has reached a level where only England and Australia can defeat them for the next decade.

Not maybe the current teams but those two countries have higher ceilings due to their infrastructure.

Post that, no chance.

That is true for Test cricket . But white ball cricket closes the gap between teams a lot more

England have never played ODI cricket particularly well, except for a few years under Morgan .

Even T20 cricket, I don't see them being an outstanding team. It will be between IND/OZ/SA/NZ/ENG. But since it's such a short format even other teams like SL and WI can occasionally beat these teams.

Only Bangladesh will struggle to cause any upsets because most matches won't be held at Mirpur. :inti
 
That is true for Test cricket . But white ball cricket closes the gap between teams a lot more

England have never played ODI cricket particularly well, except for a few years under Morgan .

Even T20 cricket, I don't see them being an outstanding team. It will be between IND/OZ/SA/NZ/ENG. But since it's such a short format even other teams like SL and WI can occasionally beat these teams.

Only Bangladesh will struggle to cause any upsets because most matches won't be held at Mirpur. :inti
I'd say it is the opposite.

Test cricket has more difficult conditions to overcome. White ball mostly the same.
 
Agreed.
I reckon they should have bowled first. Bharat isn’t really known for batting teams out of the match in tournament finals. At best we would have scored 280. NZ should have taken that chance by thinking a bit out of the box.
Nah, you never bat second in a major final. 250+ becomes almost impossible to chase. I thought we learnt our lesson in 2003 and 2017CT final but guess not

250+ has been chased ONCE in CT and world cup final, 280+ has NEVER been chased in cricket history in a big final.

You should never Chase in a big final unless it's a doctored pitch like world cup 2023.
 
Nah, you never bat second in a major final. 250+ becomes almost impossible to chase. I thought we learnt our lesson in 2003 and 2017CT final but guess not

250+ has been chased ONCE in CT and world cup final, 280+ has NEVER been chased in cricket history in a big final.

You should never Chase in a big final unless it's a doctored pitch like world cup 2023.

That’s what Shazzy boy said. Sometimes you think out of the box. Rohit was prepared for this, it went as per script literally.
 
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‘Only a matter of time before they win one’ - Ponting on New Zealand’s Champions Trophy campaign

Ricky Ponting believes that despite missing out on the title, New Zealand can be proud of their runner-up finish at the Champions Trophy.

Speaking to Crystal Arnold on the latest edition of The ICC Review after the final, Ponting said, “I don't think it (New Zealand’s campaign) went wrong at all. I think they had another outstanding tournament. They were brilliant right the way through.

“I was asked at the start of the tournament who I thought the final four would be, and as soon as you start talking about top fours for ICC events, you just have to put New Zealand in it, because they just always do it.

“And I didn't do it this time because I thought Pakistan would make it being at home, and I thought South Africa would make it. So I didn't have New Zealand there and sure enough there they are again.

“And what a dominant performance it was against South Africa in their semi-final to make it through to the final. You probably can't play a better game of one-day cricket than that. To bat first and make 360-odd, I think it's the highest total ever in a Champions Trophy game.”

Ponting went on to applaud the exploits of Matt Henry, who missed out on the final owing to an injury - closing the tournament as the leading wicket-taker.

“They just came up against a really good team in the final, and they weren't far away. India won in the 49th or 50th over. They haven't done a lot wrong," Ponting continued.

“And that's without some of their stars actually performing in that final. And that's without Matt Henry being fit in that final as well, who was their leading wicket-taker going into it. So they've had a great campaign.

“And if they keep putting themselves there, it's only a matter of time before they will (win an ICC tournament).”

Another prominent feature of the Black Caps squad was Glenn Phillips, who contributed in all three facets of the game - especially pulling off stunning catches in the field.

A prime fielder for Australia back in the day himself, Ponting was all praise for the New Zealander’s fielding and believes he’s in the upper echelons of the department with some of the very best.

“If you put the highlights reel together, his is now probably better than anyone. He hasn't played anywhere near as many games as Herschelle Gibbs, (AB) de Villiers, Andrew Symonds or Paul Collingwood, these guys that were always known as being the great fielders. (Ravindra) Jadeja is another one.”

Ponting then delved into the technical aspects of Phillips’ work.

“But his agility is something that is just unbelievable. His ability to launch himself for catches, and a lot of them are one-handers as well, so it's not just the agility, but you've still got to hang on to the ball, you've got to catch it," Ponting added.

Picking his favourite off Phillips’ highlights reel at the Champions Trophy, Ponting added, “I saw a quote before saying that he thought that catch in the final (that of Shubman Gill) was his best. I don't think that was as good as the Kohli one (last group game against India), to be honest.

“I watched that catch a few times, I actually think he could have got that with two hands, and that made that probably look a bit more spectacular than it needed to be, but some of his other catches, I mean, they're unbelievably good.

“I've seen it in Test cricket as well. He's taken some in Test cricket in that same area at backward point.”

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Feeling for NZ team. A hard working team but unfortunately they face red jit Indian team.

Hopefully they win a ICC trophy very soon. Most loveable team in the World cricket and never cry about conditions unlike others

:kp
 
India has reached a level where only England and Australia can defeat them for the next decade.

Not maybe the current teams but those two countries have higher ceilings due to their infrastructure.

Post that, no chance.
No brother you are wrong there is also another team which is the greatest talented cricket nation, nobody played better cricket like them across formats from 2015 to 2025, they are also one amongst Australia & England to defeat us in the future.
 
As far as I am concerned, NZ are the true champions of CT 2025. They had to travel for 7000+ KM and had many odds against them.

India had to travel for exactly 0 KM and they received all sorts of perks from ICC. I think below picture accurately describes India's CT 2025 campaign:

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:inti
 
As far as I am concerned, NZ are the true champions of CT 2025. They had to travel for 7000+ KM and had many odds against them.

India had to travel for exactly 0 KM and they received all sorts of perks from ICC. I think below picture accurately describes India's CT 2025 campaign:

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:inti
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Stop trolling man....it's boring now. NZ should have won but India did and now we have to accept it.
 
In all honesty everyone knows he is a hypocrite.. so people are not responding anymore.
I am all for trolling Indian fans and like MIG bhaee says NZ deprived us the chance to call India chokers again. Now it's done, they won. Own it and move on rather than making loser excuses. I feel sorry for the good BD fans
 
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India has reached a level where only England and Australia can defeat them for the next decade.

Not maybe the current teams but those two countries have higher ceilings due to their infrastructure.

Post that, no chance.
I remember saying this in 2021
India have the best t20 and top 2 odi team back then itself

We were tired post IpL and hence paid the price. We couldn’t win the wtc final because of that and also the t20 world cups that ensued.

I guarantee you that was the case

Rohit even talked about it

And then guess what 2 years down the track they proved me right.

India always had the best t20 side since 2021. Timing was the issue as players were hustling exhausted. And odi side

In fact even tests if they organised the timings properly India win the 2021 wtc title easy

2023 we missed bumrah pant and jaiswal
So…..
Aus never really beat a fully strength India in tests or odi

They beat a weakened team

Period.
 
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I remember saying this in 2021
India have the best t20 and top 2 odi team back then itself

We were tired post IpL and hence paid the price. We couldn’t win the wtc final because of that and also the t20 world cups that ensued.

I guarantee you that was the case

Rohit even talked about it

And then guess what 2 years down the track they proved me right.

India always had the best t20 side since 2021. Timing was the issue as players were hustling exhausted. And odi side

In fact even tests if they organised the timings properly India win the 2021 wtc title easy

2023 we missed bumrah pant and jaiswal
So…..
Aus never really beat a fully strength India in tests or odi

They beat a weakened team

Period.
2021 india beat aus and eng both easily during chasing in the warmups.

even the dubai match india actually posted a very decent score and would have defended it if not for dew.
 
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