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The world's sole superpower has better things to do than disrupt a game of stick and ball in a country half way around the world. 
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The world's sole superpower has better things to do than disrupt a game of stick and ball in a country half way around the world.
If only they would have found better things before entering Afghanistan long way back or Iraq a bit later and other such examples. Can’t say for this very political gimmick but, surely they struggle to find better things then to play stick and ball half way around the world.
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Our friend is naïve and simple. He thinks that these things don't happen.
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Boycotting SENA countries is as good as stop playing cricket all together. Perhaps Pakistan should find another sport to focus on? Playing just SL, WI, Zim and BDesh is nowhere enough to sustain.
Gotta tweet Rambo regarding this. Just finish it once and for all.
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West conspires against us, India conspires against us, Bangladesh dislikes us, Afghanistan dislikes us. Why is the whole world anti-Pakistan?
Maybe, just maybe, we are the problem?
Maybe, just maybe, we are the problem?
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What is western nations even achieving by cancelling a bilateral cricket series where main players are not involved and also not part of super league points?
This could be that no other country neighbours a warzone. Ever thought about that?
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Either West's fingerprint or India's fingerprint.
This definitely felt political more than any actual threat.
This definitely felt political more than any actual threat.
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Have you ever thought about how huge a role Pakistan has played in establishing its neighbor as a war-zone?
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What are you trying to say? That Pakistan is foolish enough to make Afghanistan a war-zone? Do you even know the cost Pakistan has paid for the War in Afghanistan? The lives lost, the collateral damage done to our country?
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If this is indeed a political chess game that Pak is in, just wondering if France has a cricket team given their current friendship status with there so called partners 
Still they dont learn. What was the need to welcome and support a regime so openly and graciously that is led by UN and US designated terrorists just coz it wont attack them. The west has certainly not taken it positively and the effects are being felt now.
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As I suspected...alot of people are now saying that the intelligence came from the Five Eyes.
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As much as I used to side your views but this time you are just sounding dumb. Take your anti Pak glasses off for a second and think about it
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Do you believe the same thought process applies to the Jewish community too?
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People who were calling me a conspiracy theorist yesterday have now been left with humble pie.
The NZ Herald reported that the security alert that led to New Zealand abandoning the tour did infact come from the Five Eyes: the intelligence alliance compromising of US, Australia, England, NZ and Canada, which I alluded to in my post.
Doesn't take a genius to connect the dots from here.
The NZ Herald reported that the security alert that led to New Zealand abandoning the tour did infact come from the Five Eyes: the intelligence alliance compromising of US, Australia, England, NZ and Canada, which I alluded to in my post.
Doesn't take a genius to connect the dots from here.
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Thank you for this. I hope now some Pakistan fans will stop blaming India and BCCI. _/\_
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Reminds me of this. The guy who is carrying the gun on his shoulder is NZ. 
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Definitely sounds like politicly motivated rather than a security issue.
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Pakistan outside of Pakistan is known as a fertile land of Terrorism. pakistani regime also has supported various terrorist groups throughout the history. No wonder the country has a poor image in the outside world.
And even if PAK were to completely disassociate itself from all the T groups the reputational damage will take years and decades to correct.
Perception, impression, reputation etc. are all lagging indicators when it comes to course correction following the changes on the ground.
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Hardly looks like the case right now.
Yes, agree that it will take a long time before a country can get rid of a certain reputation, but only after total distancing happens.
Sounds like Indian narrative being passed on as global narrative.
Thanks. To be clear, I don't think they will disassociate. The premise of my statement (hypothesis) was contingent on an "if".
I don't think they will disassociate because the line the current civil military establishment is towing is that they need to keep most channels of communication open with T. US will likely take a few years before legitimising this govt (if potential geopolitical / economic benefits align) given they have just exited in an ungainly fashion.
I expect more PR and ego massaging geared towards T to come through press releases from PAK over the next few months with greater focus drawn on the supposed "positives". I feel the current govt. feel that coaxing T into conviviality is the way forward. In reality there are far too many splinter groups and factions which often do not recognise each other, let alone maintain channels with PAK. Each has motives of their own and will likely seek to create whatever chaos they can. It is these that I feel PAK will not be able to control with the backchannels and dialogue.
To be clear I don't think the endgame - middle or start game wasn't exactly different either but I digress - played by US was too different (withdrawal agreement included a treatise under which T would safeguard US troops from other groups during exit, T were labelled "professional" and "businesslike" and were deemed to have enough trustworthiness, legitimacy and negotiating nous to have been brought to a negotiating table in MENA) to what PAK have played recently. Equally I don't think there is much left to imagination (I am not sure where you are based / what your background is - if you are from PAK then you will know this is as good as common knowledge) that PAK always had a channel open with T and propped up factions which they felt could help further the double-game (played by both countries).
The reality is that AFG is a quagmire that PAK and USA are both culpable of creating. The greater problem for PAK is that they share a border and have to live with the seeds sown which they have been reaping over the last two decades with neither the resources, nor the pedigree. USA has not fought a war on its shores and is not likely to reel from this fallout as much, steeple domestic polarisation notwithstanding. PAK on the other hand does not quite have the pedigree to slap sanctions and embargoes on US (which they absolutely would have had they had the upper hand) but the opposite is certainly true and likely to happen.
Finally, note that it is always the innocent who suffer whenever spymasters run circles and interfere in other countries' affairs. All of it sounds chic and fancy when portrayed in Hollywood-esque style but the reality is that it will make no difference to the child who lost a limb / parent / family during the war whether the bomb that struck him was the result of a suicide attack by T during their "holy" war, fired from some drone as part of some "righteous" war to eliminate terror and democratise backward regions or obtained and detonated through a toxic double-game being run by the neighbouring state. The child will have lost that limb / parent / family regardless.
I wouldn't call it Indian narrative. The reality is that for the last ~20 years when people have thought of PAK they have thought of headlines on leading media platforms highlighting the latest attack or blast.
Who would want to be a tourist / visitor when the incumbent image is one of terror and the incumbent emotion one of fear?
Things have improved quite a lot in terms of feeling safe in public places compared to then and I don't say this in an offhand manner (nothing compared to Western states where one feels safer still but quite a lot of improvement in comparison to where PAK stood). I spent a considerable amount of time again in PAK during the Zardari govt. of 2010s and remember that the difference between then and now was that people were scared of bodily harm back then. Blasts, robberies, mafias and militias - all operated with considerable ease.
Today the average citizen is more likely to be worried about dying from hunger, poverty and malnutrition / debt traps that can be created just by trying to fund daily necessities and education. I am afraid I cannot say things are better overall in the sense of standard of living, if anything the removal of the temporary backstops that were in place during the PMLN govt. and the sharper scrutiny of IMF programmes / increased taxation and various other economic factors have squeezed the average citizen dry.
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You are assuming the outside world is the west because you live there. But not every country is India, many eastern countries have their own values however strange they might seem to us. Terrorism is a western coined reference to demonise their enemies otherwise they would be referred to as brave resistance fighters if they were our allies.
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The majority perception about Pakistan is that it isn't a safe country to live in as it only gets mentioned in the news for all the wrong reasons. Also Pakistan is probably the sole nation to openly support the taliban, a group that is known as a terrorist organization even in the muslim countries.
It has nothing to do with values or cultural diversity. Pakistan is just viewed as an unsafe nation that has close ties with terrorists and the Pak Government hasn't done much to change that perception.
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[MENTION=147920]ishtiaq_ctg[/MENTION] is spot on.
As usual, the majority will prefer to bury their heads in the sand.
As usual, the majority will prefer to bury their heads in the sand.
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Pakistan needs to develop a lot of soft power and needs better PR and needs to be positioned as a high quality attractive brand . Supporting brutal regimes etc. is done by a lot of nations and they all get away with it . So that's not just Pakistan alone but the dominant narrative is always about its negatives. That needs to change completely.
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You would be surprised how much even liberal westerners dislike Pakistan, let alone conservatives. Just visit Reddit to see how Pakistan is perceived.
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More bakhts..the perception was created and nurtured by a targeted state sponsored campaign by the fascist regime of hindustan..all revealed and this is now available to the public online. Its part of the war. This move from the kiwis has actually helped garner Lot of sympathy from people with regards to Pakistan.. things are moving in the right direction. In the past most would have followed the bakht4line but not today..
We have proven to be a safer country than before and most have acknowledged this by touring.
The biggest issue was always going to be the Gora countries..
Our aim is now to get the ecb over and if we can do that thT will be a win..but at the same time Pakistan will be highlighting the new cricket caste system in place now and will fight against this..
All of you fascist Indians can smile for now but at we know things can change and tea can taste good..
We have proven to be a safer country than before and most have acknowledged this by touring.
The biggest issue was always going to be the Gora countries..
Our aim is now to get the ecb over and if we can do that thT will be a win..but at the same time Pakistan will be highlighting the new cricket caste system in place now and will fight against this..
All of you fascist Indians can smile for now but at we know things can change and tea can taste good..
I know there are some in the west that feel the same way. They are few and far in between. They certainly do not represent the narrative at large or the most common narrative.
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Pewresearch seems to disagree with that
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/10/23/few-americans-trust-pakistan/
It's a 2013 article but I would assume Pakistan's image has become worse in 2021 with the Taliban support.
Well, US isn't the whole world or the west. US itself isn't viewed too favourably in the west.
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US is the leader of the west and NATO, half the western countries (and many Asian ones) are literally US vassal states with US military bases. This includes Five Eyes countries, 3 of which play cricket. US isn't the only country to have this view of Pakistan, I am pretty certain France has much worse views since Laïcité exists.
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I don't believe this has western finger prints on it. ECB would've cancelled the tour by now had it been a credible threat, but find themselves in a conundrum because deep down they know that the threat at best was a hoax and by proceeding with the tour, they'd undermine NZG actions.
I'm convinced this is the work (hoax threat call) of Hindutava RAW agents; only India would be hell bent on destroying Pakistan cricket, not the West. The West for it's faults have bigger things to worry about than a cricket series. An act like this is a win for India and their right-wing terrorist government.
I'm convinced this is the work (hoax threat call) of Hindutava RAW agents; only India would be hell bent on destroying Pakistan cricket, not the West. The West for it's faults have bigger things to worry about than a cricket series. An act like this is a win for India and their right-wing terrorist government.
The taliban regime was actually welcomed by the British army chief Sir Nicholas Carter too. He pleaded that they be given a chance. So shall countries then stop touring England too?
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India fled Afghanistan, got their backsides handed on a plate, so cannot fund terrorism towards Pakistan anymore so instead create disorder by creating a mythical perception that terrorism is still rife in Pakistan by drawing parallels with the 2009 SL attacks - namely a cricket team is under threat.
This has Hindutva RAW finger prints all over it, and this is why NZG are not sharing the intel - they know the intel is not intel, but a scam which the NZG fell for, and as a result use 5 eyes as a cover-up.
This has Hindutva RAW finger prints all over it, and this is why NZG are not sharing the intel - they know the intel is not intel, but a scam which the NZG fell for, and as a result use 5 eyes as a cover-up.
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Forgot to mention the KPL. India doesn't want foreign cricketers in Pakistan, let alone to play in the KPL. What better way than to create false fear.
Not sure what Pakistan was expecting after messing with USA. Cancellation of NZ tour should be the least of Pakistan's concerns.
On the same lines, not sure why Pakistan govt/admin/people keep expecting tours from India/IPL contracts after messing so much with the very same country.
Seems like some kind of a condition.
On the same lines, not sure why Pakistan govt/admin/people keep expecting tours from India/IPL contracts after messing so much with the very same country.
Seems like some kind of a condition.
Mate you're still finger-painting a madmans scribble connecting those dots though.
Of course NZ intelligence comes from 5 Eyes- by very definition, it has to.
No one in the West gives a crap whether NZ tour Pakistan- there is no shadowy conspiracy against Pakistan using cricket as a weapon.
The idea is kind of so petty as to be pathetic, in the world scheme of things.
NZ got spooked out of a tour. Maybe they over-reacted or tool misguided intelligence. Maybe they heard something chilling ad legitimate- security certainly failed vs SL and foreign nationals have been bombed repeatedly in Pakistan this year (Chinese).
Isn't it way more likely the obvious explanations stated are the reason. Not some sinister plot involving the entire Western world co-ordinating together, for months, costing millions, all to ruin a cricket game in Pakistan? For the net gain of... what exactly is the secret agenda trying to achieve that is worth all this? Sorry, just no.
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Who knows? Either the Five Eyes are missing a couple of eyeballs or this is connected to the same agenda they have in Hong Kong. Its patently obvious that the US and its partners have ramped up the pressure on China in the last month by the creation and strengthening of anti-China alliances, and because Pakistan is closely aligned with China, its quite plausible for them to try and cause problems in Pakistan. That's what intelligence agencies do. They don't go out specifically targeting cricket.
...or this is connected to the events in Afghanistan. The West still blames Pakistan for its gargantuan failures in Afghanistan rather than taking ownership for them and recognizing that the result was a foregone conclusion nearly a decade ago.
Either way, both explanations are fairly plausible.
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No, they're far fetched conspiracy theories. But you do you.
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Well you know there are many conspiracy theories that ended up being true.
At any rate, it is quite curious though that the Five Eyes who can't even pick up terrorists in their own countries or go about doing any of the things they do in Hong Kong discreetly, suddenly came across this vital piece of intelligence that they couldn't even share with the Pakistan government...even after the New Zealand team had left.
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Five Eyes has a responsibility to protect the citizens of Five Eyes member states. There must be a credible threat to the Kiwi touring team. Now I expect that England and Australia will not tour either until the threat is neutralised.
The credibility of intelligence from 5 eyes is extremely low. Even people from those countries don't tend to believe them. Just look at the large conspiracy theory base in the US. People are very suspicious in US and certain European countries after the Iraq war and the droning of who knows how many innocent civilians based on 'credible intelligence'. The fact that they fail to even provide basic details of the intelligence is even more suspicious.
Let me guess, same credible threat that caused 10 Afghan civilians to get vaporized few weeks ago, and God knows how many other civilians in drone strikes over the last decade+? The same one that caused the invasion of Iraq? I mean we have some people questioning the credibility of Pakistan over 1 incident in 2009, but dozens of incidents based on 'credible intelligence' are nothing.
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I do totally agree the NZC should have taken PCB in confidence by sharing as much as they can...but also need to understand that they couldnt share everything. PCB needed to more than what is in public domain before this announcement of cancellation.
Some comments on this thread was a delusion comedy treat to read. Its super funny that some people believe a cricket tour is important enough to be part of US offensive policy discussions and they will ask the CIA to drive this security perception about Pakistan via leaks. When a country's leader is even remotely close to justifying Taliban, you dont need a CIA or any other agency to drive bad perceptions about you. Everyone will assume that the country will pose some risk to westerners even when all looks okay.
Some comments on this thread was a delusion comedy treat to read. Its super funny that some people believe a cricket tour is important enough to be part of US offensive policy discussions and they will ask the CIA to drive this security perception about Pakistan via leaks. When a country's leader is even remotely close to justifying Taliban, you dont need a CIA or any other agency to drive bad perceptions about you. Everyone will assume that the country will pose some risk to westerners even when all looks okay.
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Let’s be serious and not make that sort of egregious false equivalence. Something within Pakistan is considered a threat and the NZ Gov has taken appropriate steps to keep her citizens safe.
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And how is that threat supposed to be neutralized if the Five Eyes don't even share the information with the country that is supposed to deal with the threat?
You can't blame people for calling this threat a hoax because that is exactly what it seems like.
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I have no idea if they have or haven’t shared. Not a problem for the Kiwi gov. Protection of their citizens is.
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CIA MI6 etc have low credibility. Lol.
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Sorry but its hard to see anything coming from the Five Eyes as credible and not politically motivated. Especially given their history of (unsuccessfully) meddling in Hong Kong and their inability to stop numerous terrorist activities in their own countries.
Not to mention the massive intelligence failures in Iraq and Afghanistan that they are just as culpable in.
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No Pak has not done that at all. It was the Soviets who invaded Afghanistan, not Pak. Your beloved neighbour has always had a problem with Pakistan since it was formed.
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NZG are not sharing the intel because the intel is from RAW, and thus unreliable.
FVYE continues to share intel with Pakistan, it's mandatory under FAA regulation at the very least.
Remember, FVYE shared intel on Modi and his role in Gujrat massacre.
Sharing is caring. ❤
FVYE continues to share intel with Pakistan, it's mandatory under FAA regulation at the very least.
Remember, FVYE shared intel on Modi and his role in Gujrat massacre.
Sharing is caring. ❤
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Can you rule out it was not a political move especially when UK and US intelligence agencies have accepted their defeats in Afghanistan and where Pak's intelligence is seen as a winner?
There is a war going on between worlds top Intel agencies and Pakistan's ISI is facing that against MI6, CIA and Indian RAW. It was definitely a political move because here these agencies rivaling Pak's ISI wanted to take revenge of their defeat in Afghanistan.
This is not the first move though as we have seen UK keeping us on red list of covid countries despite India having more deaths and cases yet India was not on the same list.
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Now that Ecb has made the decision yes it doe seem that way.
Stated the operational reason for that previously, so moot point.
The operational reason for that has been stated already- it places the source at risk, so moot point.
You seem to be falling for the logical fallacy of "western intelligence is imperfect- therefore disregard all of it", the latter being an error, or you must logically also ignore science, since that has also been proven wrong & updated many times.
The Us is full of conspiracy theories- what does that prove? That they are idiots too?
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Intelligence will generally be shared only with friends and allies. How hard is that to understand.
Also people should realize that the tour cancellation probably saved many pakistani lives too..
Countries share intelligence all the time, even enemies. Much less Pakistan and 5 eyes who do a ton of intelligence sharing.
They can reveal at least some basic details of the threat that doesn't compromise the source, which they are not even willing to do. In this particular case, theoretically the interests of Pakistan are aligned with NZC because they both of them want to keep the players safe. So to hide the intelligence makes little practical sense, even if you think there may be a theoretical reason behind it.
As for science v/s the failures of 5 eyes. You can't be serious. We can ignore failures of anyone and anything if we compare it to science. I am not claiming that the intelligence is necessarily wrong, but rather the hiding of even the basic details looks suspicious and can reasonable lead to the assumption that the intelligence was wrong, or worse it's all political theatre.
The way this has been done, anyone can make claims, make accusations, and say we can't give the proof because it we need to keep it confidential. It's quite a dangerous slippery slope. I mean sure it gives you plausible deniability but anyone reasonable should be willing to question why even the basic information can't be released when we are talking about only sports, not some international spy games.
No, complete bunk. Intelligence can be shared with even enemies when there's narrow alignment of interest, and in this case 5 eyes and Pakistan are not enemies and there's alignment of interest. If the intelligence saved lives of Pakistan then it would make sense to share the intelligence so that the threat can be neutralized for the longer term.
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It is a known fact that US and allies dont trust Pakistan enough to share information. It was evident during OBL raid and also when they carried out tons of drone strikes inside of Pakistan and the then govt couldnt do anything about it..
They have done plenty of intelligence sharing regardless. Matter of fact, US itself acknowledged that OBL raid was heavily based on intelligence provided by Pakistan. This is not the OBL raid, this is to protect a cricket team. There's no good reason not to share the information. It is reasonable to assume that they are not sharing it because either the intelligence was bad, or the intelligence is a plausible deniability smokescreen, or a third country such as India was somehow involved and they don't want that revealed.
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I just think it is unlikely 5 Eyes will share terror related intelligence with Pakistan when the ISI is linked at the elbow with the Taliban.
Sure, I mean if that's what you want to believe, despite all the nuances I mentioned.
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Pakistan's Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting, Fawad Chaudhry, implied on Tuesday that the withdrawal of England and New Zealand cricket teams from their scheduled series in Pakistan was a result of Prime Minister Imran Khan saying "absolutely not" to the US on using Pakistan as a base for the latter's Afghan operations, the Express Tribune reported.
In July, Imran Khan had categorically stated that he would not allow the US to use Pakistan as a base for its Afghan operations and the statement had caused quite a stir, generating debate on mainstream and social media alike.
In a press briefing after a cabinet meeting chaired by Khan on Tuesday, Chaudhry said that Pakistan is paying the price for saying "absolutely not" to the US, saying nations have to pay such kind of prices if they want to hold their head high, adding that this is in fact a small price to pay and proud nations keep paying such prices, the report said.
"If you say ‘absolutely not’, then there's a price that you have to pay," the information minister said in response to a question about the cabinet's discussion on the back-to-back withdrawals by England and New Zealand, adding: "I think the nation is ready to pay the price and tackle such challenges."
Chaudhry said the back-to-back withdrawals by the New Zealand and England cricket teams have caused a loss of roughly Rs 200 million to Rs 250 million to the Pakistan Television (PTV) alone.
"We have initiated discussions with our lawyers to examine how we can take them to the courts," Chaudhry said, adding: "This is an extremely unfortunate development."
https://zeenews.india.com/cricket/p...-and-england-series-cancellation-2395973.html
In July, Imran Khan had categorically stated that he would not allow the US to use Pakistan as a base for its Afghan operations and the statement had caused quite a stir, generating debate on mainstream and social media alike.
In a press briefing after a cabinet meeting chaired by Khan on Tuesday, Chaudhry said that Pakistan is paying the price for saying "absolutely not" to the US, saying nations have to pay such kind of prices if they want to hold their head high, adding that this is in fact a small price to pay and proud nations keep paying such prices, the report said.
"If you say ‘absolutely not’, then there's a price that you have to pay," the information minister said in response to a question about the cabinet's discussion on the back-to-back withdrawals by England and New Zealand, adding: "I think the nation is ready to pay the price and tackle such challenges."
Chaudhry said the back-to-back withdrawals by the New Zealand and England cricket teams have caused a loss of roughly Rs 200 million to Rs 250 million to the Pakistan Television (PTV) alone.
"We have initiated discussions with our lawyers to examine how we can take them to the courts," Chaudhry said, adding: "This is an extremely unfortunate development."
https://zeenews.india.com/cricket/p...-and-england-series-cancellation-2395973.html
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PCB doesn't have enough money to attract England and NZ regardless of US demands, unlike India. I have no doubts that this would happen if India was in Pakistan's shoe. Many players would retire just to keep IPL contract.
Lolz at the fact that US state department and military leaders are now admitting actively sharing intelligence with Taliban to prevent ISIS attacks. It is beyond lists now and some specific foiled suicide bombings are being mentioned as a specific example. Also, one US citizen who returned from Afghanistan was telling CNN that Taliban gave them excellent and special security after they told them that they are Americans. :
)Also, some US military officials were saying on TV that they coordinated with Taliban to secretly open specific gates of Kabul airport so US officials and other American citizens can be quickly snuck into the airport due to presence of large crowds outside.
So they can share intelligence with Taliban but not Pakistan?
Lolz at the fact that US state department and military leaders are now admitting actively sharing intelligence with Taliban to prevent ISIS attacks. It is beyond lists now and some specific foiled suicide bombings are being mentioned as a specific example. Also, one US citizen who returned from Afghanistan was telling CNN that Taliban gave them excellent and special security after they told them that they are Americans. :
Also, some US military officials were saying on TV that they coordinated with Taliban to secretly open specific gates of Kabul airport so US officials and other American citizens can be quickly snuck into the airport due to presence of large crowds outside.
So they can share intelligence with Taliban but not Pakistan?
Yep, I mentioned in other posts that US does intelligence sharing with the Taliban. So this entire this is a smokescreen for some thing - and there are a few possibilities of what those things are.
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About the importance of cricket in Pakistan, he said the game was key to unite people in Pakistan from Karachi to Peshawar and the mountains of Gilgit-Baltistan to Gwadar’s ocean.
“Our hearts beat with [national] team and [its] players,” he said while recalling massive financial losses inflicted on the PTV sports channel and a ‘demoralising effect’ on the nation in the wake of the cancellation of cricket tours by New Zealand and England.
“We were in Dushanbe and the prime minister was about to deliver his speech when I was given a message that the Prime Minister be informed that New Zealand cricket team has called off the tour. At that point in time, I, [Foreign Minister] Shah Mahmood Qureshi and (National Security Adviser) Moeed Yusuf were unanimous that the prime minister should not be told the news until he concludes his speech, otherwise it will have its effect,” Fawad said while describing the impact of cricket in national affairs.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2322772/cpec-not-linked-to-sharif-familys-corruption-fawad
“Our hearts beat with [national] team and [its] players,” he said while recalling massive financial losses inflicted on the PTV sports channel and a ‘demoralising effect’ on the nation in the wake of the cancellation of cricket tours by New Zealand and England.
“We were in Dushanbe and the prime minister was about to deliver his speech when I was given a message that the Prime Minister be informed that New Zealand cricket team has called off the tour. At that point in time, I, [Foreign Minister] Shah Mahmood Qureshi and (National Security Adviser) Moeed Yusuf were unanimous that the prime minister should not be told the news until he concludes his speech, otherwise it will have its effect,” Fawad said while describing the impact of cricket in national affairs.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2322772/cpec-not-linked-to-sharif-familys-corruption-fawad
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ISLAMABAD: Minister for Information and Broadcasting Chaudhry Fawad Hussain said on Thursday that after a long deficit, Pakistan Television was set to earn a profit of Rs1.3 billion this year.
In a tweet, he said the PTV suffered Rs300 million loss due to postponement of New Zealand and England cricket teams’ tours to Pakistan.
He expressed the hope that next year the PTV would break all records of profit.
He congratulated the management and workers of PTV on this performance.
https://profit.pakistantoday.com.pk/2021/09/30/ptv-set-to-earn-rs1-3bn-profit-this-year-fawad/
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Seems something in the offing....
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Lahore (92 News) – New Zealand Cricket Board is full of support for the tour of Pakistan. The Kiwis will come to Pakistan in September 2022 to play ODI and T20 series.
The success of PCB chairman Rameez Raja turned into a diplomatic affair. After England and Australia, the New Zealand Cricket Board also regretted canceling the tour of Pakistan.
The New Zealand Board contacted the Pakistan Cricket Board and assured a tour of Pakistan. According to sources, the New Zealand team will visit Pakistan in September next year. The visiting team will play ODI and T20 International series during the tour.
The New Zealand cricket team abruptly postponed the series with Pakistan in September this year due to security concerns, which was criticized by fans all over the world, including on social media.
https://92newshd.tv/about/new-zealand-cricket-board-backs-pakistan-tour-next-year?source=tweet
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Lahore (92 News) – New Zealand Cricket Board is full of support for the tour of Pakistan. The Kiwis will come to Pakistan in September 2022 to play ODI and T20 series.
The success of PCB chairman Rameez Raja turned into a diplomatic affair. After England and Australia, the New Zealand Cricket Board also regretted canceling the tour of Pakistan.
The New Zealand Board contacted the Pakistan Cricket Board and assured a tour of Pakistan. According to sources, the New Zealand team will visit Pakistan in September next year. The visiting team will play ODI and T20 International series during the tour.
The New Zealand cricket team abruptly postponed the series with Pakistan in September this year due to security concerns, which was criticized by fans all over the world, including on social media.
https://92newshd.tv/about/new-zealand-cricket-board-backs-pakistan-tour-next-year?source=tweet
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So what happened to the specific credible threat? Surely they wouldn't come if there was a specific credible threat? What has changed?
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Every time I see a news about NZ Tour of Pakistan, it creates a massive pain for me. What about the losses we incurred this year? The NZ team quitting the tour was a decision of NZ government.
What if NZ government does the same thing again based on some bloody fake news?
