NZ TV commentator, Scotty Stevenson, makes a remark about Mohammad Amir and fixing on air

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Seems Scott Stevenson said this on air.

 

[ElRaja]

huh, i thought he meant if he was 18 he would be taller so it wd be a bigger no ball. its not like u cant spotfix at 17, but u can at 18. think people being too sensitive... anyhoo even if he implied that, amir did what he did, everyone has to live with it

 

[Rajdeep]

Any video of the incident [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION]?

 

[Rana]

It was definitely in reference to Amir.

That commentary change with the lady commentator was probably the worst voices I heard from a SENA nation’s representatives in the commentary box. They were the equivalent of Harris Rauf and Raza Hassan doing Urdu commentary in terms of quality.

Abysmal!

 

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Apology from the broadcaster:

 

[anonymous_guy]

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Seems Scott Stevenson said this on air.

Why do people want an apology for this?

 

[Rana]

NZ ground staff have been guilty of publicly taunting Amir in the past also.

If you remember clearly, it was New Zealand who went the extra mile in humiliating Australia for the Sandpaper scandal, they went nuts on social media and the news.

Bunch of DHs if I’m honest, they have a terrible history of corruption themselves which is often overlooked

 

[hitthestump]

The mentality that all brown people must be cheats and fixers runs deep in some of these people.

Good thing he didn't have any such slips when Windies came, i'd rather not know what Scott's opinion is about them.

 

[Saj]

What was the context though?

 

[Bewal Express]

I don't mind that sort of humour but Chris Cairns and Lou Vincent were also caught red handed

 

[Rana]

What was the context though?

Naseem’s first ball was a massive no ball

They then start discussing his age being 17

He then followed up by saying if he was 18 he would have bowled a much bigger no ball

 

[Rana]

Why do people want an apology for this?

Because the honest fans who have paid money out of their pocket to support their country do not wish to be reminded or humiliated about the past!

What a stupid thing to say anonymous guy

 

[Saj]

Naseem’s first ball was a massive no ball

They then start discussing his age being 17

He then followed up by saying if he was 18 he would have bowled a much bigger no ball

So it was either a dig at Amir or a genuine comment that Naseem is still growing.

 

[Rana]

So it was either a dig at Amir or a genuine comment that Naseem is still growing.

There was a giggle and an awkward silence after this.

My first impression was that they were taking a dig at Amir. A brown young boy bowling a no ball is a cliche in itself

 

[volcyz]

Was a good dig.

Saint Amir has nothing to rebuke this kind of trolling tbh.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It was either a dig at Aamir or at Naseem's fake age. Not sure which.

 

[Varun]

Sorry to ask the obvious question - but who on earth is Scotty Stevenson?

Scotty Styris? Sure. Stevenson??

 

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Scott Stevenson seems to be clarifying...

 

[MenInG]

Sorry to ask the obvious question - but who on earth is Scotty Stevenson?

Scotty Styris? Sure. Stevenson??

From Spark Sport announcement before the series:

Spark Sport have revealed their commentary line-up for the home Black Caps' season, which begins later this month.

The line-up includes New Zealand internationals Brendon McCullum, Stephen Fleming, Craig McMillan, Rebecca Rolls, Frankie Mackay, Grant Elliott, Jeetan Patel and Mark Richardson.

Sports broadcaster Scotty Stevenson and TV presenter Sonia Gray are also part of the team.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/sp...r-summer-schedule/H2ZHS3UQG6N3GANDY765SSDBGY/

 

[Last Monetarist]

Sorry to ask the obvious question - but who on earth is Scotty Stevenson?

Scotty Styris? Sure. Stevenson??

He's a rugby commentator, who's covering cricket for the first time in his life.

 

[Shaddy86]

I heard it live and I got the reference rightaway and found it to be funny. Gotta stop getting offended at every little thing, it's not an accusation it's just a bit of humour based on past events. It's exactly what a normal person would think in their mind and there's no need to demand for an apology.

 

[anonymous_guy]

Because the honest fans who have paid money out of their pocket to support their country do not wish to be reminded or humiliated about the past!

What a stupid thing to say anonymous guy

People can't run away from humiliation once the act is done.

I find it weird why talking about convicted fixers is looked so down about. Here in India i see Azharuddin on a news channel analysing the batsmen and finding their fault, people on social media singing praises of their skill( from Azhar to Asif to Danish) and how they should be brought back to serve their Nation.
Convicted fixers before they start playing again, have to give lectures on cricket ethics and anti-corruption where the chances of them getting lured into the ACT would be shared by themselves, here Scott Styriss did that.

No one would call anyone a cheat of they are clean. Instead of supporting them, the fans need to move on from them. Their modus operandi is the same, "commit, then refuse untill there is a strong evidence against them and then apologize".

P.S.:-
You should not be offended buy the remark, he taunted "that 18 year old" who fixed, he didn't taunt the fans.

 

[Hasan123]

Well when you fix, you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[Minnowbasher]

New Zealand cricketers seem a very nice bunch but their commies have always been awful. The bias that the Kiwi commies have is second to none. Surprisingly Australia are much more neutral.

 

[Rana]

Well when you fix, you don't have a leg to stand on.

So NZ have a leg to stand on and Pakistan don’t?

 

[Saurav]

So NZ have a leg to stand on and Pakistan don’t?

He made a reference to Aamir,not whole of Pakistan

Pak commentators can return the favour if they want

 

[Saurav]

New Zealand cricketers seem a very nice bunch but their commies have always been awful. The bias that the Kiwi commies have is second to none. Surprisingly Australia are much more neutral.

Simon Doull and Ian Smith are pretty good.They don't seem there for this series

 

[anonymous_guy]

So NZ have a leg to stand on and Pakistan don’t?

It's not about New Zealand, Pakistan or any other country, never will be. It's always about the individuals who did what they shouldn't have done.

If a guy from Pakistan fixes it is the fault of the guy not about the nation, and when someone taunts those fixers they taunt the individual.

 

[Rana]

It's not about New Zealand, Pakistan or any other country, never will be. It's always about the individuals who did what they shouldn't have done.

If a guy from Pakistan fixes it is the fault of the guy not about the nation, and when someone taunts those fixers they taunt the individual.

If it’s not about countries etc then the best thing to do is to zip your mouth and act responsibly. Naseem has nothing to do with what Amir did,,,,unless you want to pigeon hole the poor guy for the sake of it!

 

[Bewal Express]

Scott Stevenson seems to be clarifying...

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Scotty Stevenson is a rugby commentator normally.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Thats how your country pays for a cheat , and that cheat is being complaining these days.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

That was a massive no ball by naseem. It reminded me of Amir’s

 

[Zaz]

What was the context though?

Naseem bowled a no ball on his first delivery just when they were discussing his age

Hence the idiotic comment

 

[aloo paratha]

What's the need for an apology? The fact that Amir fixed is a bitter reality. Nobody is wrong for pointing it out.

 

[Space Cat]

Its hilarious how desperately hard some people for things to be offended by.

It was pretty obviously a joke about Naseems age. Why would Stevenson make reference that happened 10 years ago for no reason?

Try not to be so sensitive and you will find life much less stressful.

 

[Hasan123]

So NZ have a leg to stand on and Pakistan don’t?

Pakistan commentators and pundits don't have the intelligence to make such remarks against NZ. Furthermore if they did I wouldn't be defending New Zealand .

No matter what Pakistan do , you will defend it or find some positive.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan commentators and pundits don't have the intelligence to make such remarks against NZ. Furthermore if they did I wouldn't be defending New Zealand .

No matter what Pakistan do , you will defend it or find some positive.

Another dumb comment of generalisation on your behalf. I am not going to stand and let people pick on others just because “Pakistani commentators don’t have the intelligence to make snark comments about fixing”

And yes, I will find positives more often than negatives which people like you look to find to stand out instead of being fair and impartial

 

[Rana]

What's the need for an apology? The fact that Amir fixed is a bitter reality. Nobody is wrong for pointing it out.

Oh yeah let’s point out the rape and atrocities committed by the British during the reign of the empire whenever they play a Test match against India and Pakistan. Or the atrocities committed by the Pakistan army whenever they face Bangladesh? These are all bitter realities and should not require any apologies. We the honest and decent fans must listen to them and feel insulted every time because they are an honest reality of what happened

 

[Space Cat]

Oh yeah let’s point out the rape and atrocities committed by the British during the reign of the empire whenever they play a Test match against India and Pakistan. Or the atrocities committed by the Pakistan army whenever they face Bangladesh? These are all bitter realities and should not require any apologies. We the honest and decent fans must listen to them and feel insulted every time because they are an honest reality of what happened

Slightly over dramatized analogy there.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

If he meant to reference Amir, then full props to him. At least someone is shaming fixers and cheats...

 

[Rana]

Slightly over dramatized analogy there.

So where does it stop? I am an honest customer of BT sports who wouldnt bother to watch a Test match played in the Boring land of New Zealand unless they are playing Pakistan or India, why do i have to listen to Insulting things? Are you going to defend the 'cashier sound' played by the NZ stadium staff when Amir came back into International cricket also? Yeah, come on! Lets humiliate these guys all that we can!!

 

[wasimjunior]

So it was either a dig at Amir or a genuine comment that Naseem is still growing.

Wasn’t sure myself

Thought first but could be the latter

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Darn we're getting serious at an innocuous jab.. Amir is history, can we let him go please?

 

[Space Cat]

So where does it stop? I am an honest customer of BT sports who wouldnt bother to watch a Test match played in the Boring land of New Zealand unless they are playing Pakistan or India, why do i have to listen to Insulting things? Are you going to defend the 'cashier sound' played by the NZ stadium staff when Amir came back into International cricket also? Yeah, come on! Lets humiliate these guys all that we can!!

Well firstly this incident is a non issue because the remark had nothing to do with Amir. The guy making the accusation even apologized to Scotty Stevenson on Twitter. Its just you with the lone pitch fork now.

Secondly I can only offer some advice, ask for a refund from BT sports or you could try growing a backbone. If some meat head stadium DJ(usually trolls in this roll) did something years ago that still upsets you to this day its on you not anybody else. Amir is lucky he was allowed to play cricket for his country again. Lou Vincent is banned for life from even going near his own kids cricket games.

 

[aloo paratha]

Oh yeah let’s point out the rape and atrocities committed by the British during the reign of the empire whenever they play a Test match against India and Pakistan. Or the atrocities committed by the Pakistan army whenever they face Bangladesh? These are all bitter realities and should not require any apologies. We the honest and decent fans must listen to them and feel insulted every time because they are an honest reality of what happened

Fixing is cricket related, the examples you've given are irrelevant to cricket. Also the commentator was reminded of the fixing incident after seeing a big no ball. I hope nothing on field happens that will remind a commentator about rape and murder

 

[Rana]

Well firstly this incident is a non issue because the remark had nothing to do with Amir. The guy making the accusation even apologized to Scotty Stevenson on Twitter. Its just you with the lone pitch fork now.

Secondly I can only offer some advice, ask for a refund from BT sports or you could try growing a backbone. If some meat head stadium DJ(usually trolls in this roll) did something years ago that still upsets you to this day its on you not anybody else. Amir is lucky he was allowed to play cricket for his country again. Lou Vincent is banned for life from even going near his own kids cricket games.

No, what irks me is how this is all acceptable because its Pakistan, and our commentators are 'unintelligent', and we should accept the insults because this is a 'bitter reality'. There were people here who were also saying Pakistan deserved racist comments made by the NZ health minister about sport being a 'privilege' for these cricketers traveling to their country.

Im simply tired of reading these racist things and double standards by so called 'educated posters' who are apparently being impartial.

I will continue this fight, this purge against snakes if I must do so alone.

 

[Third Man]

It was either a dig at Aamir or at Naseem's fake age. Not sure which.

I thought it was clearly the latter. An low-hanging-fruite joke about Naseem's fake age.

 

[Mamoon]

It was either a dig at Amir for bowling the no-ball or at Naseem for his laughable age-cheating.

Both are well-deserved. No need of playing victim.

 

[Phantom Menace]

No, what irks me is how this is all acceptable because its Pakistan, and our commentators are 'unintelligent', and we should accept the insults because this is a 'bitter reality'. There were people here who were also saying Pakistan deserved racist comments made by the NZ health minister about sport being a 'privilege' for these cricketers traveling to their country.

Im simply tired of reading these racist things and double standards by so called 'educated posters' who are apparently being impartial.

I will continue this fight, this purge against snakes if I must do so alone.

It is a privilege for any person to be allowed in to a foreign land. It is just in normal times there are less reasons to revoke this privilege so people such as athletes and business professionals are given easy entry. Less so when a world wide viral pandemic is happening. To think that this is some sort of racism seems a bit like a victim complex.

 

[Phantom Menace]

Also Scotty Stevenson is a bit of a Joker type. The sort of person who loves to get in the witty one liner, and because he tries to throw so many of them in some of them fall flat.

 

[hadi123]

It was either a dig at Amir for bowling the no-ball or at Naseem for his laughable age-cheating.

Both are well-deserved. No need of playing victim.

I thought it was a dig at Amir, never thought about the Naseem age-cheating thing.

An inappropriate comment, but it's not worth getting upset about.

 

[Junaids]

Sorry, but if you are Amir - or Warner, or Smith - you can have no complaint, this is a consequence of your bad choices.

I would be fine with Amir being selected, but I think such comments are perfectly normal, and nobody should feel censored from making them.

 

[Junaids]

It was either a dig at Amir for bowling the no-ball or at Naseem for his laughable age-cheating.

Both are well-deserved. No need of playing victim.

Exactly.

 

[Hasan123]

Another dumb comment of generalisation on your behalf. I am not going to stand and let people pick on others just because “Pakistani commentators don’t have the intelligence to make snark comments about fixing”

And yes, I will find positives more often than negatives which people like you look to find to stand out instead of being fair and impartial

If you sell out your country for a few dollars, you deserve stick and humiliation. You should think about the stick you will get before taking the dollars. If you can't handle it, don't do the crime.

Keep on finding positives in Pakistan team. Because realistically there aren't many. Being realistic is better than being positive for the sake of it.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Why do people want an apology for this?

Its New Zealand. They are practically known for their niceness. What do you expect?

 

[happydavy]

So what is the real issue here, Amir and company can cheat their country and game of cricket, and people can't even talk about it? Many Ppers may be having a very low threshold of corruption in sports, fortunately most sports fans have higher standards. Cheats need to be called out, and if fans and commentators do that then it's fine by me.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Sorry, but if you are Amir - or Warner, or Smith - you can have no complaint, this is a consequence of your bad choices.

I would be fine with Amir being selected, but I think such comments are perfectly normal, and nobody should feel censored from making them.

Right on.

 

[Marshland]

So where does it stop? I am an honest customer of BT sports who wouldnt bother to watch a Test match played in the Boring land of New Zealand unless they are playing Pakistan or India, why do i have to listen to Insulting things? Are you going to defend the 'cashier sound' played by the NZ stadium staff when Amir came back into International cricket also? Yeah, come on! Lets humiliate these guys all that we can!!

You're overestimating Scotty Stevenson's intelligence here mate.

He's basically a rugby head, and has little clue about the granularities of what happened in 2010 to pull something like this off.

 

[Rana]

You're overestimating Scotty Stevenson's intelligence here mate.

He's basically a rugby head, and has little clue about the granularities of what happened in 2010 to pull something like this off.

Ok. But let’s say he did mean to take a dig at Amir here, I’m just appalled at people saying it’s ok to do it whilst being a responsible voice on national TV. This is what is unacceptable IMO.

 

[ShoaibM]

Dumb comment from a not so bright individual. If it were me I would fire him simply for being bad at his job. But it doesnt upset me lets try and enjoy the game here. Which is what a commentators job is, by the way...

 

[Rana]

Sure but there is difference between a cheater and a traitor, and no they aren't the same.

Amir did not take money to lose the game for Pakistan or did he? Should we have a debate about justifying each case and the standard of deception applied??

Smith and Warner knew what they did was cheating and they owned up. If you want to speculate based on this, the possibilities are endless about what they may have done in the past and got away with. I’m sorry but there is no way you can justify what either of the guys who have been caught, or for some cases to be more noble than the others.

If the poster in question who as usual has run away once his nonsense is exposed can happily accept Smith and Warner back, he had no right to criticise Pakistan fans who have supported Amir or Sharjeel etc

 

[CleverSir]

That was genuinely one of the funniest parts of the commentary for the day, and I watched the entire days play.

We need to get over this butt hurt of people taking digs at Amir. He isn't some saint. The man can defend himself if he wants. He made his bed, now he has to sleep in it. I'll defend that he was young when he did it and should have gotten and did get some leniency in sentencing, but 18 isn't so young that you don't know the difference between right and wrong.

 

[Saj]

Not offended by what this guy has said.

But I have to admit, it seems like a poor attempt at cheap humour.

NZ comms continue to be amongst the worst in the world.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Its not a big deal. We need to stop getting all sensitive and offended about every little thing. It was a joke and should be taken as such. If you found it funny laugh, if you didn't get over it.

Once you cheat you are branded as one for life. That's a simple fact. No matter what Warner and Smith accomplish people will never forget Sandpapergate even if they can look past it and focus on their achievements more. Amir is no different.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It was a dig at Pakistanis, they might be cheaters blah blah.

NZ is a great nation with an amazing Prime Minister. But the commies like Aussies act like idiotic kids.

Best to watch this on mute or without commentary just live match noise.

 

[Yk313]

Thought it was to do with fake ages and Naseem growing. Didn’t think about Amir’s fix.

 

[angrypathan]

It was definitely in reference to his age and how he'd have a bigger stride if he was 18

 

[Major]

Well amir did fix, its the truth.

 

[Babbar]

In 20 years, Amir will be remembered as a greedy cheat who besmirched the fair name of cricket and was among the few who were jailed for it.

Except for some ageing Pak PPers, no one else will remember Amit’s sundry CR or WC exploits in a couple of matches. Many other mostly-forgotten bowlers incl Madan Lal & Roger Binni have achieved more than him in ICC event finals.

 

[El Generico]

Well amir did fix, its the truth.

Amir spot fixed, New Zealand legends like Chris Cairns and Lou Vincent were involved in flat out match fixing. Should Pakistani commentators also bring up Cairns and Vincent next we play NZ?

 

[happydavy]

Amir spot fixed, New Zealand legends like Chris Cairns and Lou Vincent were involved in flat out match fixing. Should Pakistani commentators also bring up Cairns and Vincent next we play NZ?

They could and Kiwis won't give a damn about it. Because Chris Cairns and Vincent live in shame and no one in public gives a damn about them, unlike a certain Mohammad Amir who's a rockstar in Pakistan and has quite a bit of fan following on this forum.

 

[Space Cat]

Amir spot fixed, New Zealand legends like Chris Cairns and Lou Vincent were involved in flat out match fixing. Should Pakistani commentators also bring up Cairns and Vincent next we play NZ?

I hope they do. Something like that shouldn't be swept under the rug.

 

[angrypathan]

They could and Kiwis won't give a damn about it. Because Chris Cairns and Vincent live in shame and no one in public gives a damn about them, unlike a certain Mohammad Amir who's a rockstar in Pakistan and has quite a bit of fan following on this forum.

Spot on.

 

[El Generico]

I hope they do. Something like that shouldn't be swept under the rug.

But that would be pointless wouldn’t it? Amir isn’t in the Pakistani team and the other two guys aren’t in the NZ team so why brings them up?

I honestly wouldn’t care if the commentators taunted Amir while he was playing but it makes no sense to bring him up now and hold it over the current Pakistani team.Naseem Shah has nothing to do with Amir so why should he be scrutinized or taunted every time he bowls a no-ball?

 

[Madplayer]

Much ado about nothing.

 

[El Generico]

They could and Kiwis won't give a damn about it. Because Chris Cairns and Vincent live in shame and no one in public gives a damn about them, unlike a certain Mohammad Amir who's a rockstar in Pakistan and has quite a bit of fan following on this forum.

That could be because their crimes aren’t comparable. Amir was convicted of spot fixing which is bad but it is not at the level of manipulating and throwing away matches which is what Cairns/Vincent have been accused off.

Amir was also very young which is why the public was quick to forgive him, Butt/Asif have been largely shunned by the fans.

 

[Bilal Ahmad15]

Guys, can we just ignore whatever this Scotty Stevenson says. He is a Rugby Commentator, and this year is the first-ever time he is a cricket commentator, so he barely knows anything about cricket.

 

[wrongun]

They could and Kiwis won't give a damn about it. Because Chris Cairns and Vincent live in shame and no one in public gives a damn about them, unlike a certain Mohammad Amir who's a rockstar in Pakistan and has quite a bit of fan following on this forum.

Cairns moved out of NZ & lives in the relatively quiet, small town of Canberra in Australia (capital city but 350 000 people). He basically can't show his face in NZ for shame.

 

[Gilly]

But that would be pointless wouldn’t it? Amir isn’t in the Pakistani team and the other two guys aren’t in the NZ team so why brings them up?

I honestly wouldn’t care if the commentators taunted Amir while he was playing but it makes no sense to bring him up now and hold it over the current Pakistani team.Naseem Shah has nothing to do with Amir so why should he be scrutinized or taunted every time he bowls a no-ball?

They didnt bring up Amir, The NZ commies did not mention Amir.

 

[Space Cat]

But that would be pointless wouldn’t it? Amir isn’t in the Pakistani team and the other two guys aren’t in the NZ team so why brings them up?

I honestly wouldn’t care if the commentators taunted Amir while he was playing but it makes no sense to bring him up now and hold it over the current Pakistani team.Naseem Shah has nothing to do with Amir so why should he be scrutinized or taunted every time he bowls a no-ball?

Well Amir or spot fixing was never mentioned by the commentators, some fans made that connection and others ran with it.