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It's 6:45 PM India time and it's a Friday.
Come on, someone tell me what the UN has decided. Has India won? Or has Pakistan?
I would advise to stop being the common Indian who knows nothing about most things and look into what the UN is and what the UNSC is.
Oh yes, let's hear from the BritPak Knowledge Handbook v2019. We're all ears.
The United Nations are a global white elephant that has overseen ten times the conflicts than the chapters in said handbook.
Lots of Indians celebrating the fact that the UNSC refusal to use tough language against India and that Pakistan has zero influence in the Arab and Western world.
Lol. Russia called J and K India's internal matter. And KKWC thinks Russia will not support India. This is laughable.
Try reading the tweet above. They are staying neutral and not supporting India. This is the latest tweet on the day the UNSC met. Shame India wont ever be a UNSC member which it has been begging for .
Unverified twitter account.
Still. From the same account.
https://twitter.com/Dpol_un/status/1162375489274691584?s=19
They said the same 10 days back.
Settle issue bilaterally.
If the likes of Russia were to cast a deciding vote, they would back India through and through versus Pakistan. There's no point in exposing any intentions in the meantime I suppose, especially when this isn't a vote at all.
Basic English meaning Russia is staying neutral. Do you agree?
Russia have stated time after time they are neutral, they wont use their Veto for Indians lol.
Russia have stated time after time they are neutral, they wont use their Veto for Indians lol.
Why do you think Russians care about Indians? They only care about selling India weapons to maximise their profits. In fact Russia might prefer Pakistan agitating India, who might spend more rupees instead of feeding the poor.
They called it a bilateral matter and not a UN matter, thats rejecting the pak line that UN and other countries should intervene. How that neutral?
Russia (and the Soviet Union) has vetoed for India several times in the past, including over Kashmir. Read up.
lol. Russia was present in the UN today. Lavrov stated he has no objection to a meeting of the UNSC over Kashmir. Russia believes both nations should sort this out but is happy for the UN to get involved.
Live in present. Russia has said both nations should sort it out between themselves, indicating it will stay neutral. Next you'll be telling me India should get a seat because some Hindu emperor conquered the ganges river.
Russia said its a bilateral matter.
Show me where is the use of the word neutral?
Is there any king from what is Pakistan today, who conquered anything?
I said it...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> & <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> can both claim victory on UNSC consultation. Pak: we’re internationalizing <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a>. India: It’s just a consultation.</p>— Michael Kugelman (@MichaelKugelman) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelKugelman/status/1162421760463167488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This is more interesting than anything else that came out of that useless meeting![]()
In summary.
1. No effect whatsoever for India.
2. Imran saved his political career even though he could do nothing except using Twitter.
Russia real friend is China not India. Both have SCO agreements. China has Kashmiri territory and a lot of investment in Pakistan.
Indians will be upset with Russia but will never say it in public.
This is just the beginning of this issue/conflict.
This is just the beginning of this issue/conflict.
This is just the beginning of this issue/conflict.
Still Russia voted againist Pakistan in FATF and UNSC?
Many countries are members of SCO.
Go read article 9 of Indo Russia treaty.
Try reading the tweet above. They are staying neutral and not supporting India. This is the latest tweet on the day the UNSC met. Shame India wont ever be a UNSC member which it has been begging for .
This is just the beginning of this issue/conflict.
In summary.
1. No effect whatsoever for India.
2. Imran saved his political career even though he could do nothing except using Twitter.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today was a watershed moment in history as the world took a new turn in the struggle for Kashmir. That the UNSC met for the first time formally since 1965 to discuss Indian Occupied Kashmir was momentous.</p>— Shah Mahmood Qureshi (@SMQureshiPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/SMQureshiPTI/status/1162437471751352325?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Im still waiting for you to show me where Russia agrees with the Indian position of Kashmir being their property?
Live in the moment, Russia and it's geo-political stance has changed as you can see from this news you have ignored.
Russia said its a bilateral matter. Means only India and Pakistan.
Pakistan wanted intervention. No one is intervening.
lol. Is this what they teach you in Indian schools? The word doesnt need to be present.
Ok, tell me where Russia has said the whole of Kashmir belongs to India, something which you Indians believe.
No it's the end. Its an internal matte for India and the world wants to move on
Nothing will happen. Ekta Kapoor can make a soap opera on this. All her serials begin with 'K' anyway, Kashmir would be a right fit.
What does neutral mean? Neutral means status quo. That means J&K is now part of India. You need to understand these nuances.
The comedy is actually on the Pakistanis side. All the Hitler talk and what happened? They are trying to portray this as a victory. Victory for what? What if this is an international issue? Now it's international issue and nobody cared. You think India didn't think it would become an international issue? They already managed all the countries that matter including OIC. This is embarrassing when you make so much noise, setup a meeting and people came ate their biscuits, drank coke and left.
Agree, Imran Khan is a twitter warrior.
Russia said its a bilateral matter. Means only India and Pakistan.
Pakistan wanted intervention. No one is intervening.
Kashmiris are still not allowed out of their homes or on the internet. You call this over?
Neutral means " 1. adjective
If a person or country adopts a neutral position or remains neutral, they do not support anyone in a disagreement, war, or contest. " Collins dictionary, try buying one.
Russia doesn't agree Kashmir belongs to India.
Again this is the begnining, calm before the strom.![]()
Kashmiris are still not allowed out of their homes or on the internet. You call this over?
Neutral means " 1. adjective
If a person or country adopts a neutral position or remains neutral, they do not support anyone in a disagreement, war, or contest. " Collins dictionary, try buying one.
Russia doesn't agree Kashmir belongs to India.
Again this is the begnining, calm before the strom.![]()
You need to calm down before posting. The current position is that India has annexed Kashmir. Onus is on Pakistan to change that. The reason for the UNSC drama is to facilitate that. Did that happen? No. So they sat down behind closed doors and discussed for a few min. What was the result of it? J&K is still part of India. Isn't it? Why did the defender of democracies, lol, China asked for a closed door meeting? Their face is already black with Hongkong , uighurs and they feared embarrassment if somebody raises these. This is come sort of a face saving act by Pakistanis that fetched no result. now you need to understand the words status quo, neutral, support. China just did you a lip service by asking for a closed door meeting and made a fool of themselves.
China wanted a formal UNSC meeting.
And according to you, it's an internal matter...
Are you in the BJP party?
A simple question
"Show me where Russia agrees with the Indian position of Kashmir being their property?"
USA agrees Jerusalum is Israels capital. Does Russia agree with Indias view on Kashmir? If not, it's neutral.
Which thèy didnot get. They also circulated a draft public statement, critical of India that they wanted to be made. Also rejected.
China wanted a formal UNSC meeting.
Isn't AJK or Gilgit disputed? That's part of Kashmir and Shimla agreement right? Why are you celebrating on crumbs when somebody already toasted a huge bread and ate it? The idea is to move this into a "bilateral" thing and then not agree to bilateral discussions. Same playbook India has been using for decades.
‘So what was the outcome of the closed door huddle at the United Nations headquarters in New York?
Not much. According to a UN diplomat, council members failed to even come up with a statement to the press -- the lowest level of Council action
UN diplomats said countries disagreed on wording of a statement, with some fearing any comment would escalate tensions or would show bias towards Pakistan by simply holding the meeting.’
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...a/un-security-council-kashmir-intl/index.html
This is the outcome for now....
Isn't AJK or Gilgit disputed? That's part of Kashmir and Shimla agreement right? Why are you celebrating on crumbs when somebody already toasted a huge bread and ate it? The idea is to move this into a "bilateral" thing and then not agree to bilateral discussions. Same playbook India has been using for decades.
According to a UN diplomat, council members failed to even come up with a statement to the press -- the lowest level of Council action.UN Security Council has its first meeting on Kashmir in decades -- and fails to agree on a statement.
France, Germany and the United States objected to language that might have broadened the issue beyond the possibility of future bilateral talks between India and Pakistan, said the diplomat.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...a/un-security-council-kashmir-intl/index.html
that was only a diplomacy move ...
and that somebody gonna choke to death for eating a huge bread ...only time will tell...![]()
Yeah, it's difficult to manage initially. That's why there's a curfiew. That's why there are 800k soldiers to maintain peace and save lives. This will play out slowly depending on what GOI does with the people.
a friendly advice from neighbour, dont lift the curfew ...![]()
Pak should play it cool they hav the law on their side.
They have to. No choice. But again don't overestimate Kashmir either. A few hundred or thousand will be managed. The rest have prospects and they still live in their own homes, make a living. Only a few hundred terrorists after 70 years of Azadi beat should tell you that majority lost hopes for Azadi years ago. They made peace with the situation. Let's hope I'm right for the sake of Kashmiri lives. Death is no good for either parties and nobody should hope kashmiris should die.
Do tag me if UN passes any resolution againist India.
This is really hard for me to understand, India/Indians consider kashmir as a part of India thus by default people who live there are Indian right?
Right now they are basically in a prison. No body has any idea whats really going on there due to complete communication cut. Given the history of violence against the people of Kashmir, god knows what happening there with a communication blackout. their loved ones are desperate to get in touch with them. They will be desperate to return to normal life and keep their children safe.
I guess what I dont understand is why are Indians all over so gleeful so happy your own people are suffering and in a desperate situation. Have you guys lost you humanity seriously celebrating the misery of your own blood..
Read about preventive detention for security purposes. It is not rocket science to understand that kashmiris will not like 370 repeal and there is a possibility of mass deaths. GOI or rather any government has the authority to take this action in the best interests of the society. Lack of internet for a few days is worse than mourning a death in one's family? People have food, shelter and emergency medical services. Also remember that this is limited to parts of Kashmir. The restrictions have been lifted in Jammu already.
rocket science... hope your never put in that situation. Any ways hope the people of Kashmir will feel the same as you once this is all done. hope you stand by them and support them as their fellow Indian.