Olympics: IOC urges India isolation after Pakistani athletes denied visas

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The International Olympic Committee have suspended all Indian applications to host future events and urged international sports federations not to stage competitions in the country after two Pakistanis were denied visas to compete in New Delhi.

The denial of entry visas for two shooters due to take part in a World Cup event in the Indian capital this weekend followed last week's attack by a Pakistan-based militant group in the disputed region of Kashmir, which killed at least 40 paramilitary police.

India has accused its neighbour of not doing enough to control the militant groups responsible for the Kashmir attacks. Pakistan has denied any involvement.

The IOC said the refusal of visas for competitors went against the principles of the Olympic charter relating to discrimination and political interference from the host country.

"Since becoming aware of the issue, and in spite of intense last-minute ... efforts ... and discussions with the Indian government authorities, no solution has been found to allow the Pakistani delegation to enter India in time to compete," the IOC statement said.

"As a result, the IOC Executive Board also decided to suspend all discussions with the Indian NOC and government regarding the potential applications for hosting future sports and Olympic-related events in India," it said.

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[Varun]

Whoopee. Well done, us.

In sports where we're not boss like cricket, the governing bodies will obviously come down hard on us. Fully deserved.

 

[hafeezrocks]

And Indians were going to isolate Pakistan )

Shows how little clout India has in global terms.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Whoopee. Well done, us.

In sports where we're not boss like cricket, the governing bodies will obviously come down hard on us. Fully deserved.

Just goes to highlight that India is abusing it's financial clout in cricket to be honest.

 

[Rafa]

ICC should be taking the same steps for discrimination against Pakistan.

 

[Waseem]

Wish ICC had same independence to shut India up since they have been behaving like spoiled kids for at least a decade now. Going out of way to ensure Pakistani cricketers were not allowed in IPL was one of most disgusting and cheap act by Indians and then it spread to boycott of cricket (other than ICC events).

 

[Rafa]

Wish ICC had same independence to shut India up since they have been behaving like spoiled kids for at least a decade now. Going out of way to ensure Pakistani cricketers were not allowed in IPL was one of most disgusting and cheap act by Indians and then it spread to boycott of cricket (other than ICC events).

Don't think it is ICC's business to make sure that Pakistani players are selected in IPL that is upto the owners of the teams but ICC should make sure that there are series between all major teams in the FTP and no country can refuse to play bi-lateral series without facing the consequences.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Don't think it is ICC's business to make sure that Pakistani players are selected in IPL that is upto the owners of the teams but ICC should make sure that there are series between all major teams in the FTP and no country can refuse to play bi-lateral series without facing the consequences.

It's not ICC's business, and what Indians do with their domestic tournaments is their business, but it does reveal the small minded and vindictive nature of their organisation.

 

[Waseem]

It's not ICC's business, and what Indians do with their domestic tournaments is their business, but it does reveal the small minded and vindictive nature of their organisation.

Yes that is what i meant, of course ICC cant dictate who Indians select in their league but it exposes cheap mentality and level of some people. I would be ashamed of Pakistan if they banned certain players (who we like to watch playing otherwise) from PSL or any other league. This sort arrogance and discrimination is SHAMEFUL and disgusting.

 

[Major]

Don't think it is ICC's business to make sure that Pakistani players are selected in IPL that is upto the owners of the teams but ICC should make sure that there are series between all major teams in the FTP and no country can refuse to play bi-lateral series without facing the consequences.

IPL is affiliated with ICC. And when it comes to discrimination, then it does become an ICC matter

 

[Mamoon]

Yes that is what i meant, of course ICC cant dictate who Indians select in their league but it exposes cheap mentality and level of some people. I would be ashamed of Pakistan if they banned certain players (who we like to watch playing otherwise) from PSL or any other league. This sort arrogance and discrimination is SHAMEFUL and disgusting.

You are forgetting a critical point.

It was PCB who barred Pakistani players from participating in IPL 2 in 2009. If you want to blame anyone for arrogance, don’t look beyond the PCB.

At that time, Pakistani players were hot property in T20 cricket. PCB thought that without its players participating, the IPL will be sabotaged.

10 years later, the IPL has become the biggest league in the game and has gone from strength to strength without any Pakistani players.

PCB’s decision backfired big time and contributed to Pakistan’s isolation. Meanwhile, before we came up with our own cheap imitation (PSL), Pakistani players shamelessly lamented missing out on playing in the IPL for years.

In 2010, a year after PCB’s bravado, all the Pakistani players were rightfully snubbed in the auction and the big name players were left embarrassed, and they only had to blame PCB for it.

Without PCB making a feeble attempt to hurt IPL, Pakistani players would definitely have played in the IPL till 2010, and perhaps beyond that as well.

As far as ICC dictating BCCI is concerned, we have to be realistic. ICC is nothing without the revenue Indian cricket generates. You cannot compare Olympics and cricket here. India is not a big player in the former, but they are the lifeline of the latter.

 

[Mamoon]

IPL is affiliated with ICC. And when it comes to discrimination, then it does become an ICC matter

PCB is responsible for the IPL snub. They scored an own goal in 2009 and it has had major repercussions.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Whoopee. Well done, us.

In sports where we're not boss like cricket, the governing bodies will obviously come down hard on us. Fully deserved.

Sushma Swaraj cannot be granting visa on twitter and denying visa to athletes.

I said this earlier, If India wants to stop issuing visas to Pakistanis then do it altogether. If they only want to issue visas to sportspersons like some countries do then do that only.

This neither here neither there half cooked measures have to stop.

 

[cricketjoshila]

IPL is affiliated with ICC. And when it comes to discrimination, then it does become an ICC matter

ICC cannot force Indians to give jobs to pakistani cricketers.No one can.

The OP is a totally different issue, it was a olympic qualifying event and India should have granted visas to Pakistanis.

 

[ARK Rafay]

India didn't realized they don't own Olympics. Carried away

 

[Major]

PCB is responsible for the IPL snub. They scored an own goal in 2009 and it has had major repercussions.

boards behaving in a certain way is a separate issue. We had issues with ECCB in 2010, does that mean that ECCB starts discriminatory procedures where they tell their counties not to select Pakistani players

But in 2009, the officials had specifically told the teams that not to pick Pakistani players, and thats discriminatory.

If someone in UK tells their counties that not to select an indians, there whole indian population will go crazy and cry about discriminatory behavior.

 

[Gullycricket]

ICC should be taking the same steps for discrimination against Pakistan.

ICC is pathetic

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

PCB is responsible for the IPL snub. They scored an own goal in 2009 and it has had major repercussions.

No one is forgetting that PCB snubbed IPL initially, but then you don't expect professional bodies to carry a grudge 10 years later after all the PCB lifted that ban after one year. But no surprise that you will back India unreservedly whether they are wrong or right.

 

[ahsan17]

I guess the few minutes of happiness was probably worth it for the Indians.

 

[Major]

ICC cannot force Indians to give jobs to pakistani cricketers.No one can.

The OP is a totally different issue, it was a olympic qualifying event and India should have granted visas to Pakistanis.

oh bhai, if there is discrimination, ICC is well within its right to take the matter up.

this is not ICL which wasn't affiliated by the ICC.

ANd please don't make it soo simple.

Pakistani players are selectively not allowed to play in IPL.


Its not as simple as you have put it. Thats like saying, oh the govt cannot force by business to give jobs to handicap or people of different ethnic groups.

 

[Major]

No one is forgetting that PCB snubbed IPL initially, but then you don't expect professional bodies to carry a grudge 10 years later after all the PCB lifted that ban after one year. But no surprise that you will back India unreservedly whether they are wrong or right.

there was no ban, and PCB had its own issues.

The Pakistani players were already in the auction list of 2009.

Before the auction starts, players are requested to register themselves.

 

[cricketjoshila]

oh bhai, if there is discrimination, ICC is well within its right to take the matter up.

this is not ICL which wasn't affiliated by the ICC.

ANd please don't make it soo simple.

Pakistani players are selectively not allowed to play in IPL.


Its not as simple as you have put it. Thats like saying, oh the govt cannot force by business to give jobs to handicap or people of different ethnic groups.

Pakistani players are bad PR for Bcci IPL and Franchisees. That to put it bluntly. So they will not hire them.

Thats it.

Yes the govt cannot force anyone to hire XYZ. Non govt companies hire people on basis of a lot of factors.

 

[aukhan]

There was serious chest thumping going on by indians on social media.

Delusional Indians ) ) )

 

[cricketjoshila]

No one is forgetting that PCB snubbed IPL initially, but then you don't expect professional bodies to carry a grudge 10 years later after all the PCB lifted that ban after one year. But no surprise that you will back India unreservedly whether they are wrong or right.

You expect Bcci and billionaire owners of franchisees to function on whims of the PCB?

LOL.

 

[Major]

Pakistani players are bad PR for Bcci IPL and Franchisees. That to put it bluntly. So they will not hire them.

Thats it.

Yes the govt cannot force anyone to hire XYZ. Non govt companies hire people on basis of a lot of factors.

again, when you target a specific group thats discrimination. Simple as that.

What you have just posted is just like saying, that dark skinned players are bad PR for MLB so they shouldn't be selected.


Also, the govt has laws in place that you cannot discriminate someone when selecting the workforce.

If one is disabled, or belongs to a different ethnic group one cannot be stopped from working at a job for those reasons.

 

[Major]

You expect Bcci and billionaire owners of franchisees to function on whims of the PCB?

LOL.

on the regulations of ICC yes.

ICC job is to recognize a league and only then such a league gets an official status.

 

[cricketjoshila]

again, when you target a specific group thats discrimination. Simple as that.

What you have just posted is just like saying, that dark skinned players are bad PR for MLB so they shouldn't be selected.


Also, the govt has laws in place that you cannot discriminate someone when selecting the workforce.

If one is disabled, or belongs to a different ethnic group one cannot be stopped from working at a job for those reasons.

Again if one group is bad for my company and image and its availibility is not guaranteed to a certain extent then i will not hire him.

 

[cricketjoshila]

on the regulations of ICC yes.

ICC job is to recognize a league and only then such a league gets an official status.

ICC gives recognition.

It does not give money to run the league nor does it own the league.

There is no ICC regulation that says Pakistanis have to be given a job in India. Thats not for ICC to decide.

India has a hockey league but Pakistanis are not allowed, IHF cant ask Hockey India to hire Pakistanis.

ICC has jurisdiction on participation only in ICC events.

 

[Slim]

Big slap on the faces of indians. I got to say i am enjoying this. Proper humiliation.

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] could you kindly correct the thread title to ban. Current one is kinda confusing.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Big slap on the faces of indians. I got to say i am enjoying this. Proper humiliation.

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] could you kindly correct the thread title to ban. Current one is kinda confusing.

Where is the ban?

 

[Major]

Again if one group is bad for my company and image and its availibility is not guaranteed to a certain extent then i will not hire him.

hence discrimination.

Admit it.

Indirectly you justify the USA and MLB treatment of Black players in the early 90s.

Because they also said that one certain group is bad for their company

 

[Slim]

Where is the ban?

India has been banned to hold future Olympic events and the current one has lost its status.

https://propakistani.pk/2019/02/22/india-banned-from-hosting-olympics-related-events-for-politicizing-sports/

 

[Mamoon]

No one is forgetting that PCB snubbed IPL initially, but then you don't expect professional bodies to carry a grudge 10 years later after all the PCB lifted that ban after one year. But no surprise that you will back India unreservedly whether they are wrong or right.

Pakistani players cannot walk in and out of the IPL based on PCB's mood and how it feels about India at a given time. If the PCB could block its players in 2009, they could also do it in the future. As a result, it was too much of a risk for IPL franchises, and they did the right thing by shunning out Pakistani players altogether.

Their decision may have raised eyebrows back then, but they have been vindicated. The absence of Pakistani players has not impeded its growth - they haven't exactly missed out on superstars like Wasim, Imran and Akhtar.

It is not about backing India unreservedly; I am not concerned with India. However, I firmly believe that Pakistan is greatly responsible for all the problems (domestic and foreign) that it has faced since our inception, and we are the biggest troublemaker in the region by far.

 

[cricketjoshila]

hence discrimination.

Admit it.

Indirectly you justify the USA and MLB treatment of Black players in the early 90s.

Because they also said that one certain group is bad for their company

Can you show me one regulation that says India is bound by law to offer jobs to Pakistanis?

EU companies give first preference to EU people before giving a job to a non EU person. Thats not discrimination.

A foreigner cannot demand the right to be employed in another country.

MLB was discriminating among Americans. If IPL discriminates among Indians then they will be hauled up.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India has been banned to hold future Olympic events and the current one has lost its status.

https://propakistani.pk/2019/02/22/...mpics-related-events-for-politicizing-sports/

Go google a few more sites.

1. Only 2 of the 16 olympic quotas have been restricted from the present event. Rest 14 quotas will continue.

2. India is allowed to host all events as long as govt of India assures that Pakistanis will be given a visa.

 

[Major]

ICC gives recognition.

It does not give money to run the league nor does it own the league.

There is no ICC regulation that says Pakistanis have to be given a job in India. Thats not for ICC to decide.

India has a hockey league but Pakistanis are not allowed, IHF cant ask Hockey India to hire Pakistanis.

ICC has jurisdiction on participation only in ICC events.

All boards are bound by ICC to follow its specific rules, especially the Anti Racism code, even if they have their own leagues.

The recognition of ICC means its rules also being applied aswell

Do bother to read up

 

[Major]

Can you show me one regulation that says India is bound by law to offer jobs to Pakistanis?

EU companies give first preference to EU people before giving a job to a non EU person. Thats not discrimination.

A foreigner cannot demand the right to be employed in another country.

MLB was discriminating among Americans. If IPL discriminates among Indians then they will be hauled up.

How ignorant are you?

EU is an economic union. Economic union is a different thing. In an economic union resources are shared.

India is not in an economic union with other cricketing nations.

Again, you can rephrase you statements however you want, BUT, no one is allowed to specifically target a specific group when it comes to employment.
That becomes discrimination on the basis of race.

 

[cricketjoshila]

All boards are bound by ICC to follow its specific rules, especially the Anti Racism code, even if they have their own leagues.

The recognition of ICC means its rules also being applied aswell

Do bother to read up

Which anti racism law is broken? Racism laws dont give a right to a foreigner to demand job in another country.

As i said EU laws give preference to EU people in job and restrict Non EU people.Similar rules are followed in most european leagues. Foreigners have no right to demand that he be given a job.

 

[Mamoon]

boards behaving in a certain way is a separate issue. We had issues with ECCB in 2010, does that mean that ECCB starts discriminatory procedures where they tell their counties not to select Pakistani players

But in 2009, the officials had specifically told the teams that not to pick Pakistani players, and thats discriminatory.

If someone in UK tells their counties that not to select an indians, there whole indian population will go crazy and cry about discriminatory behavior.

The issue with ECB was different. Ijaz Butt accused its players of match-fixing and it was the opinion of one individual in the PCB. As an organisation and as a country, we did not condone his behaviour and the ECB recognised that. Moreover, we did not create any problems for them and they did not lose any money because of us.

In 2009, Pakistani players were already contracted with the IPL franchises and there were other Pakistani players listed in the auction as well. In spite of Indian blaming Pakistan for Mumbai attacks, the Indian government did not instruct BCCI to ban Pakistani players.

PCB, as instructed by our government, decided to block our players from participation which forced the IPL franchises to urgently look for replacements. Pakistani players were key members of several franchises who were in jeopardy because of PCB's stunt.

In 2010, they responded by banning Pakistani players altogether, simply because we represent too much of a risk. If we could do it in 2009, we could also do it later. IPL does not need Pakistani players, so why should they take risks when the IPL ship is sailing smoothly?

I do not have a problem with discrimination when the party who is being discriminated brought it upon itself. PCB is responsible for Pakistani players getting snubbed and losing out on millions. Perhaps it could have prevented the 2010 spot-fixing episode as well.

 

[cricketjoshila]

How ignorant are you?

EU is an economic union. Economic union is a different thing. In an economic union resources are shared.

India is not in an economic union with other cricketing nations.

Again, you can rephrase you statements however you want, BUT, no one is allowed to specifically target a specific group when it comes to employment.
That becomes discrimination on the basis of race.

India is a sovereign country and hence free to decide whom to give preferential treatment and whom not to give.

Just like EU countries decided to give preferential treatment to one another and not Non EU nations.

These are decisions of sovereign nations how they give preference to any country.

 

[Major]

India is a sovereign country and hence free to decide whom to give preferential treatment and whom not to give.

Just like EU countries decided to give preferential treatment to one another and not Non EU nations.

These are decisions of sovereign nations how they give preference to any country.

Again, an economic union is a different thing. First learn about economics then come to me.

 

[Major]

The Anti racism policy on ICC website

This Policy - one of the toughest in world sport - confirms a level of commitment from the ICC and its Members to promote and encourage participation at all levels regardless of race, colour, religion, descent, culture and/or national or ethnic origin and to ensure that there is no discrimination in the sport.

 

[cricketjoshila]

again, the purpose was to isolaet Pakistan, which you guys failed to.

Infact, your country itself could be isolated in Olympics when it will come to hosting if you dont get your acts right.

So yes, you racists have been shown your aukat

Pakistanis still wont be allowed in the IPL.

IOC has asked India to give visas to pakistanis for IOC qualification events if India wants hold them. Thats a fair demand. Its a IOC event not a Indian event. IOC cannot and willnot demand that Pakistanis be allowed if India was holding a Indian league like our hockey league. But IoC can demand that Pakistanis play in the Hockey WC in India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Again, an economic union is a different thing. First learn about economics then come to me.

Which part of sovereign nation have the right to decide employment rules of foreigners do you not understand?

EU countries formed a union because each member of EU is a sovereign nation and hence they all had the right to decide to give each other preferential treatnent.

Similarly all countries have the right to decide whom to give preferential treatment whom to restrict.

Learn international law.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The Anti racism policy on ICC website

This Policy - one of the toughest in world sport - confirms a level of commitment from the ICC and its Members to promote and encourage participation at all levels regardless of race, colour, religion, descent, culture and/or national or ethnic origin and to ensure that there is no discrimination in the sport.

Doesnot apply to how sovereign nations decide their employment policies.

In England county a EU player or even a Kolpak player wont count as a foreign player but others will there by restricting participation of players from other countries.

This is not racism,its simple employment policy of UK.

 

[Major]

The issue with ECB was different. Ijaz Butt accused its players of match-fixing and it was the opinion of one individual in the PCB. As an organisation and as a country, we did not condone his behaviour and the ECB recognised that. Moreover, we did not create any problems for them and they did not lose any money because of us.

In 2009, Pakistani players were already contracted with the IPL franchises and there were other Pakistani players listed in the auction as well. In spite of Indian blaming Pakistan for Mumbai attacks, the Indian government did not instruct BCCI to ban Pakistani players.

PCB, as instructed by our government, decided to block our players from participation which forced the IPL franchises to urgently look for replacements. Pakistani players were key members of several franchises who were in jeopardy because of PCB's stunt.

In 2010, they responded by banning Pakistani players altogether, simply because we represent too much of a risk. If we could do it in 2009, we could also do it later. IPL does not need Pakistani players, so why should they take risks when the IPL ship is sailing smoothly?

I do not have a problem with discrimination when the party who is being discriminated brought it upon itself. PCB is responsible for Pakistani players getting snubbed and losing out on millions. Perhaps it could have prevented the 2010 spot-fixing episode as well.

the 2009 Pakistani player IPL is a huge misconception between posters on this forum.

I remember correctly, Pakistani govt intially didnt stop our players from participating in the IPL. Infact, they were even allowed to register for the auction.

the Ipl shunned Pakistani players in the auction.

After that happened, then Pakistani govt said we will not allow to send our players to India. PCB made this statement in efforts to save some dignity at that time.

Even Lalit Modi, the chairman of IPL, admitted after years that the 2009 snub of Pakistani players happened due to the BCCI

Modi said "arm-twisting" by the BCCI "that nobody should pick them" had led to the shut out of Pakistan cricketers.

This is from 2009, not 2010...


As for discrimination, if black people are involved in crime in US, does that justify having jim crow laws being in place or stopping their participation in MLB or other leagues?

PCB is not responsible for the snub, those statements at the end had to be made to save itself from humiliation

 

[Major]

Which part of sovereign nation have the right to decide employment rules of foreigners do you not understand?

EU countries formed a union because each member of EU is a sovereign nation and hence they all had the right to decide to give each other preferential treatnent.

Similarly all countries have the right to decide whom to give preferential treatment whom to restrict.

Learn international law.

dont tell me to learn international law, when you are trying to compare an Economic Union with a a country that discriminates with others.

Maybe try this dramaybaazi on someone who doesn't understand basic economics.

Try to be genuine atleast if you want to convey your point

 

[cricketjoshila]

the 2009 Pakistani player IPL is a huge misconception between posters on this forum.

I remember correctly, Pakistani govt intially didnt stop our players from participating in the IPL. Infact, they were even allowed to register for the auction.

the Ipl shunned Pakistani players in the auction.

After that happened, then Pakistani govt said we will not allow to send our players to India. PCB made this statement in efforts to save some dignity at that time.

Even Lalit Modi, the chairman of IPL, admitted after years that the 2009 snub of Pakistani players happened due to the BCCI


This is from 2009, not 2010...


As for discrimination, if black people are involved in crime in US, does that justify having jim crow laws being in place or stopping their participation in MLB or other leagues?

PCB is not responsible for the snub, those statements at the end had to be made to save itself from humiliation

PCB refused to give NoC to players in 2009.

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=i&s...aw1TtAnLIF14puRGq-Ao0Wxr&ust=1550909785989862
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]


Players were allowed in 2010, but neither bcci nor franchisee owners wanted to deal with PCB.

 

[cricketjoshila]

dont tell me to learn international law, when you are trying to compare an Economic Union with a a country that discriminates with others.

Maybe try this dramaybaazi on someone who doesn't understand basic economics.

Try to be genuine atleast if you want to convey your point

What basic economy do you understand?

How did the economic union form? Because the countries decided to. So basically its the country's right to choose, which they exercised.

All countries have the right and they choose their economic employment and trade policies.

 

[Major]

PCB refused to give NoC to players in 2009.

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=i&s...aw1TtAnLIF14puRGq-Ao0Wxr&ust=1550909785989862

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]


Players were allowed in 2010, but neither bcci nor franchisee owners wanted to deal with PCB.

the commissioner of IPL himself admitted

https://tribune.com.pk/story/333045/ipl-shut-out-of-pakistan-cricketers-due-to-bcci-lalit-modi/

 

[cricketjoshila]

the commissioner of IPL himself admitted

https://tribune.com.pk/story/333045/ipl-shut-out-of-pakistan-cricketers-due-to-bcci-lalit-modi/

The sacked IPL commisioner who was thrown out of Bcci for financial misdemeanour and is now living in exile in UK as criminal cases are pending againist him in India.

Anyways to humour you more.

Saleem Altaf, the Pakistan board's chief operating officer, confirmed today that no Pakistan player will take part in IPL 2009 on the instructions of the Pakistan government because of fears for their safety in the wake of the Mumbai terrorist atrocities.

Altaf said that the Pakistan sports ministry was prepared to give clearance, and had recommended a No Objection certificate. But the hopes of Pakistan's players foundered when the matter reached the foreign ministry for final approval. "The foreign ministry has told us it would not be advisable to send players to India at this time," Altaf said

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2009/feb/02/indian-premier-league-auction


This a link from the guardian.


ISLAMABAD Pakistan has barred its cricketers from competing in the Indian Premier League Twenty20 tournament in the wake of last years terrorist attacks in Mumbai.


'We have been informed by the foreign ministry today that the situation is not conducive for Pakistan cricketers to travel to India,' Sports Minister Aftab Jilani told the Associated Press on Monday.


https://www.dawn.com/news/834311

This is from the dawn


All from feb 2009. Pakistan stopped its players from coming to India.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This is embarrassing.

 

[Slim]

Go google a few more sites.

1. Only 2 of the 16 olympic quotas have been restricted from the present event. Rest 14 quotas will continue.

2. India is allowed to host all events as long as govt of India assures that Pakistanis will be given a visa.

Humiliation #1) "The event was a qualification round for the Tokyo Olympics 2020, however, the international body has revoked the tournament’s status as a qualifying event."

Humiliation #2) "Furthermore, India will not get to host any Olympic-related event in the future unless it receives written assurances from the Indian government to comply with IOC rules. "

Humiliation #3) "The regulatory body also urged other global sporting bodies to not grant the hosting rights to India for politicizing sports."

This gets as embarrassing as it can get. Tight slap, well deserved.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You expect Bcci and billionaire owners of franchisees to function on whims of the PCB?

LOL.

LOL.

No I don't, but I don't believe the franchises or billionaire owners would boycott Pakistan players without govt directives. Difficult for me to believe that every Indian is a nationalistic bigot. In fact I know that when SRK was a franchise owner he actually lobbied to be allowed to bid for Pakistani players but got shot down by the saffron brigade.

LOL.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistani players cannot walk in and out of the IPL based on PCB's mood and how it feels about India at a given time. If the PCB could block its players in 2009, they could also do it in the future. As a result, it was too much of a risk for IPL franchises, and they did the right thing by shunning out Pakistani players altogether.

Their decision may have raised eyebrows back then, but they have been vindicated. The absence of Pakistani players has not impeded its growth - they haven't exactly missed out on superstars like Wasim, Imran and Akhtar.

It is not about backing India unreservedly; I am not concerned with India. However, I firmly believe that Pakistan is greatly responsible for all the problems (domestic and foreign) that it has faced since our inception, and we are the biggest troublemaker in the region by far.

You are not only more of an Indian patriot than most Indians, you are also a big critic of Muslims in general, not to mention a virulent critic of Pakistan. Thus your views match almost line for line with the BJP and the Hindutva movement in India.

Understand, that isn't a criticism as such, just pointing out the reality. A lot of the criticism of Pakistan is well deserved, but the world is bigger than IPL or cricket. Now take the news of the Olympic action against India in your stride and try not to shed tears.

 

[cricketjoshila]

LOL.

No I don't, but I don't believe the franchises or billionaire owners would boycott Pakistan players without govt directives. Difficult for me to believe that every Indian is a nationalistic bigot. In fact I know that when SRK was a franchise owner he actually lobbied to be allowed to bid for Pakistani players but got shot down by the saffron brigade.

LOL.

There were 8 franchisee owners, only SRK lobbied,rest were not in its favour. He was out voted.

Lets be honest, Pakistani players are bad PR for a Indian company. And the overall question mark over availibility makes them a risk no one can take.

 

[Major]

The sacked IPL commisioner who was thrown out of Bcci for financial misdemeanour and is now living in exile in UK as criminal cases are pending againist him in India.

Anyways to humour you more.

Saleem Altaf, the Pakistan board's chief operating officer, confirmed today that no Pakistan player will take part in IPL 2009 on the instructions of the Pakistan government because of fears for their safety in the wake of the Mumbai terrorist atrocities.

Altaf said that the Pakistan sports ministry was prepared to give clearance, and had recommended a No Objection certificate. But the hopes of Pakistan's players foundered when the matter reached the foreign ministry for final approval. "The foreign ministry has told us it would not be advisable to send players to India at this time," Altaf said

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2009/feb/02/indian-premier-league-auction


This a link from the guardian.


ISLAMABAD Pakistan has barred its cricketers from competing in the Indian Premier League Twenty20 tournament in the wake of last years terrorist attacks in Mumbai.


'We have been informed by the foreign ministry today that the situation is not conducive for Pakistan cricketers to travel to India,' Sports Minister Aftab Jilani told the Associated Press on Monday.


https://www.dawn.com/news/834311

This is from the dawn


All from feb 2009. Pakistan stopped its players from coming to India.

again, the commisioner himself said.

Whether sacked or not, the guy was a commisioner of the IPL and knows what was being done.

The excomissioner himself has admitted it.

 

[Major]

Humiliation #1) "The event was a qualification round for the Tokyo Olympics 2020, however, the international body has revoked the tournament’s status as a qualifying event."

Humiliation #2) "Furthermore, India will not get to host any Olympic-related event in the future unless it receives written assurances from the Indian government to comply with IOC rules. "

Humiliation #3) "The regulatory body also urged other global sporting bodies to not grant the hosting rights to India for politicizing sports."

This gets as embarrassing as it can get. Tight slap, well deserved.

Even the IOC own website said they revoked status, but this guy will trust an indianexpress news channel then the IOC own website

Point number 3 is interesting. That is indeed a humiliation when the IOC asks other global sporting bodies to not give hosting rights to India. )
Pakistan has its problems, but i doubt any global sporting body has made such a request

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There were 8 franchisee owners, only SRK lobbied,rest were not in its favour. He was out voted.

Lets be honest, Pakistani players are bad PR for a Indian company. And the overall question mark over availibility makes them a risk no one can take.

If you believe in the politics of hate, then yes Pakistani players are bad PR for Indian companies. If you believe that people should be judged as individuals and that cricket can show that people aren't so different after all, then there are good possibilities as well. Pakistani players and artists have always been very popular in India in the past, we should always believe the best of the Indian public.

 

[Bhaijaan]

The beizzati is timely and well deserved.

We needed it in the CT final when we behaved like Pakistan team was our pet dog before the final only to receive one of the biggest phainty ever in a big final.

And we thoroughky deserved it now for acting like we rule the world.

This country has lost all respect.

 

[cricketjoshila]

again, the commisioner himself said.

Whether sacked or not, the guy was a commisioner of the IPL and knows what was being done.

The excomissioner himself has admitted it.

So The Guardian and The Dawn are lying that the Govt of Pakistan stopped the players? You can search any news outlet and all of them reported it.

A disgraced criminal is prone to lying. Thats what Lalit Modi is doing. How anyoe pick pakistani players if they were not allowed in the auction by the pak govt.

 

[Major]

So The Guardian and The Dawn are lying that the Govt of Pakistan stopped the players? You can search any news outlet and all of them reported it.

A disgraced criminal is prone to lying. Thats what Lalit Modi is doing. How anyoe pick pakistani players if they were not allowed in the auction by the pak govt.

like lalit said, the franchises were not planning to buy them as directed by BCCI not to..

PCb had to do that to save face.

Also, in the past when zardari and Mushraffe have claimed that Pakistan has been involved in attacks Kashmir in the past, then you never said that a disgraced criminal is prone to lying

now all of a sudden, your using that theory. Nice.I like your hypocrisy.

 

[cricketjoshila]

like lalit said, the franchises were not planning to buy them as directed by BCCI not to..

PCb had to do that to save face.

Also, in the past when zardari and Mushraffe have claimed that Pakistan has been involved in attacks Kashmir in the past, then you never said that a disgraced criminal is prone to lying

now all of a sudden, your using that theory. Nice.I like your hypocrisy.

O bhai already many pakistani players were part of the team,like Rajasthan. It would help you if you would read the articles lol.

Pakistan tried to arm.twist India, got twisted itself.

 

[Slim]

Even the IOC own website said they revoked status, but this guy will trust an indianexpress news channel then the IOC own website

Point number 3 is interesting. That is indeed a humiliation when the IOC asks other global sporting bodies to not give hosting rights to India. )
Pakistan has its problems, but i doubt any global sporting body has made such a request

Honestly, i like indians like BVB, FC bhaijaan but india and jingo indians like joshila deserve this utter humiliation.

 

[Slim]

The beizzati is timely and well deserved.

We needed it in the CT final when we behaved like Pakistan team was our pet dog before the final only to receive one of the biggest phainty ever in a big final.

And we thoroughky deserved it now for acting like we rule the world.

This country has lost all respect.

FC bhaijaan, i wish i was as unbiased as you.

 

[srh]

Whoopee. Well done, us.

In sports where we're not boss like cricket, the governing bodies will obviously come down hard on us. Fully deserved.

Why the sane voices in India not speaking up? The media is only highlighting the extremist voices in India and its gives the impression that the whole country has gone extremists

 

[slipcatch]

It is perplexed to see that anyone would try to reason with Bhakth regarding discrimination when their ideological foundation is build on discrimination.

Stop wasting time with some who would go in lengths to justify discrimination.

 

[Bhaijaan]

FC bhaijaan, i wish i was as unbiased as you.

Thanks bro, but really it's not about being biased but about having the basic decency as a human being.

I am biased about many things. I feel Sachin's the greatest cricketer ever and no one can reason with me against it.

I can also be biased about feeling that we Indians have the right to have at least the Indian controlled Kashmir. That's my bias. I am also a human being with flaws.

But no bias can ever make me justify harassment of innocent citizens anywhere in the world, more so inside my country.

If Kashmiris are feeling threatened in India because of actions of some people then it is a disgrace for me.

At the end of the day human life should be treated with respect. That's the whole point of nation states. So that you would create a safe home for your community in a world you cannot trust. If people aren't secure in your country, your country is a failed state.

 

[Varun]

Why the sane voices in India not speaking up? The media is only highlighting the extremist voices in India and its gives the impression that the whole country has gone extremists

It's the social media era. The majority sane voices are drowned out by the minority loudmouths.

Just wait until the elections - the proof of the pudding will be served to the BJP with garnish.

 

[Pakpak]

It's the social media era. The majority sane voices are drowned out by the minority loudmouths.

Just wait until the elections - the proof of the pudding will be served to the BJP with garnish.

I would be surprised though if BJP lost the election? Rahul Gandhi reminds me of Bilawal sometimes, too coconutty, with no idea of what's going on.

 

[Varun]

I would be surprised though if BJP lost the election? Rahul Gandhi reminds me of Bilawal sometimes, too coconutty, with no idea of what's going on.

The BJP will probably make it through with a coalition government. But their tally will be a slap in their face, much like the loss of 3 states (MP, Chattisgarh and Raj) was recently.

I don't want Rahul 'dodo' Gandhi to come to power, but I want the BJP's wings clipped majorly - and I feel this election will deliver on that front.

 

[Syed1]

If this isn't a massive slap on India's face idk what is

 

[Swashbuckler]

We deserve this humiliation, brought it upon ourselves. How/why are majority Indians behaving like headless chickens?

 

[MRSN]

PCB is responsible for the IPL snub. They scored an own goal in 2009 and it has had major repercussions.

doesn't matter. Sooner or later they would have been forced not to be picked. PCB or even BCCI couldn't stop the extremism that was flourishing in India since the 90s.

 

[MRSN]

PCB refused to give NoC to players in 2009.

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=i&s...aw1TtAnLIF14puRGq-Ao0Wxr&ust=1550909785989862

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]


Players were allowed in 2010, but neither bcci nor franchisee owners wanted to deal with PCB.

lol it's amazing how you twist facts to make your point sound logical but memory cannot lie.

 

[Pakistanian]

Egg on their face lol.

 

[Salma_T]

How a thread re India being reprimanded about their petty behaviour and banned from hosting further IOC events has turned into a thread about who banned whom in IPL. India has also not issued a visa for an English lions player Saqib mahmood but ECB or ICC don't have the balls to say anything. Yes Khwaja is in India but he has issues obtaining a visa in the past.

 

[BlackShadow]

The reactions in this thread show that Pakistanis just don't get it.

Losing hosting rights for future events isn't the problem, playing Pakistan is, and India was very much aware of the consequences for the boycott.

 

[Salma_T]

I think the issue isn't that Pakistani don't get it, issue is that not everyone sports body is ICC and they can boss them around!

 

[Darkrai]

This is the way it should be.