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I will be very honest, only one of the two communities, Hindus or Muslims, may survive in the subcontinent in the long run if the current trend continues. This isn't about Pakistan, India, or any specific nation. It is all about religion and it is getting impossible to co-exist. Until and unless entire population swap happens where Pakistan & Bangladesh will have all SC Muslims and India will have all Hindus + non Muslim minorities, this conflicts will never end. We can try these fake bhai chaara or secularism drama as much as we want but it will simply not work.
 
I will be very honest, only one of the two communities, Hindus or Muslims, may survive in the subcontinent in the long run if the current trend continues. This isn't about Pakistan, India, or any specific nation. It is all about religion and it is getting impossible to co-exist. Until and unless entire population swap happens where Pakistan & Bangladesh will have all SC Muslims and India will have all Hindus + non Muslim minorities, this conflicts will never end. We can try these fake bhai chaara or secularism drama as much as we want but it will simply not work.
my bets on the muslims.
 
you mean Jinnah.
Was he wrong though? Jinnah would’ve gladly accepted you, whether you're a Hindutva atheist, a Christian atheist, a Zionist atheist, or whatever label you’re wearing today. He had no issue with mask, as long as you picked one and owned it.

Just as we all accept you in this thread the way you are.
 
Local Kashmiris, this is a once in a lifetime moment to show solidarity with the government and with Hindu community. Don’t let this moment pass by staying silent against these violent animals. We want to progress and transform this region. Not like this

Total 4 terrorist was involved in this attacks and two from Pakistan & 2 from kashmiri terrorist.
 
These poor Kashmiris who earn a living through tourism. It’s people like this man who have also suffered today along with their dependents


People can easily move on from Kashmir to other parts of the country and the world. But for Kashmiris, tourism is the biggest source of income.
 
A bit off topic but where are the likes of Akash Banerjee, Kunal Kamra, Dhruv Rathee, Arfa Khanum Sherwani etc tonight?

Any thing from them yet?
 
Was he wrong though? Jinnah would’ve gladly accepted you, whether you're a Hindutva atheist, a Christian atheist, a Zionist atheist, or whatever label you’re wearing today. He had no issue with mask, as long as you picked one and owned it.

Just as we all accept you in this thread the way you are.
deflection.

Rajdeep is echoing what Jinnah's words. too bad if that bothers you.
 
I don't know why bhakts are getting agitated.

All posters here (including myself) have condemned this terrorist attack. Nobody supported this attack.

We are simply highlighting the double standard of bhakts. Bhakts do not condemn BLA or Israel who also kill innocent civilians.

All civilized people condemn innocent killings no matter who do it. However, bhakts do not condemn when innocent Muslims die. Therefore, we can conclude bhakts are not civilized/decent people.

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Amazing people here defending their religion - whose ancestors themselves converted to escape jizya taxes or under the threat of sword.
 
Amazing people here defending their religion - whose ancestors themselves converted to escape jizya taxes or under the threat of sword.

Are you okay?

This thread is about the terrorist attack and all Muslim posters here have condemned it. :inti

Also, a lot of those conversions were voluntary conversions. If Mughals/Sultanates wanted to, they could've made whole of India Muslim. But, that wasn't the objective. Anyway, let's not derail the thread.
 
I don't know why bhakts are getting agitated.

All posters here (including myself) have condemned this terrorist attack. Nobody supported this attack.

We are simply highlighting the double standard of bhakts. Bhakts do not condemn BLA or Israel who also kill innocent civilians.

All civilized people condemn innocent killings no matter who do it. However, bhakts do not condemn when innocent Muslims die. Therefore, we can conclude bhakts are not civilized/decent people.

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Bhakts are these terrorists who asked people to recite Kalma and check the Circumcision. Those who didnt match the two criteria's were killed. Now that is real Bhakti, don't you think so?
 
Bhakts are these terrorists who asked people to recite Kalma and check the Circumcision. Those who didnt match the two criteria's were killed. Now that is real Bhakti, don't you think so?
@sweep_shot about the terrorists, will you answer this or do the only thing you are good at which is run away in silence.
 
Bhakts are these terrorists who asked people to recite Kalma and check the Circumcision. Those who didnt match the two criteria's were killed. Now that is real Bhakti, don't you think so?

Glad to see you've come to your senses here. In a certain thread, your whataboutery has no limits, and your delusional symptoms are like a Yo - Yo.
 
I will be very honest, only one of the two communities, Hindus or Muslims, may survive in the subcontinent in the long run if the current trend continues. This isn't about Pakistan, India, or any specific nation. It is all about religion and it is getting impossible to co-exist. Until and unless entire population swap happens where Pakistan & Bangladesh will have all SC Muslims and India will have all Hindus + non Muslim minorities, this conflicts will never end. We can try these fake bhai chaara or secularism drama as much as we want but it will simply not work.
So indias constitution is a failure?
 
Many Muslims came to other countries just like Hindus and others did for a better life and seem just normal but today makes me shudder to think if most of those guys are terrorist sympathisers. most of them support perpetuating violence against other religions for no reason. The west should do a redeclaration forms for all non natives on if they support banned terrorist organisations and throw these sympathizers out. But then again many of them will lie like we are seeing now, say no but go all pop and proud about Hamas n terrorists on online forms. @sweepshot Will you declare you support Hamas if Canada takes up such declaration and stand on your principle?
 
Amazing people here defending their religion - whose ancestors themselves converted to escape jizya taxes or under the threat of sword.
Many of them also converted because they didn't want to be untouchables based on their birth, have their wife's ******* shown in public, or have their female family members burnt alive on boats bro.

But I appreciate your input. Can you share your lineage and the motivations behind their lifestyle choices? You seem to know a lot about our ancestors so it would be nice to hear about yours.
 
@Red-Indian

I believe an outcome like this was predicted in one of your earlier exchanges.

Lets hope this triggers full blown war.

And get rid of indian peaceniks for good.
 
Brother firstly my condolences to you and your countrymen.

Secondly I can say this to you because you will not overreact and call names but the recent GOI policy towards Kashmir has been overly ambitious and papered over some cracks. Your government fooled you guys into thinking it was over. Decades long skirmish had been solved and things were normal but they overextended too quickly and too soon by thinking things were completely normal. It is a crime to think you can have internal tourism in a place where many inhabitants are reeling from war and what they feel is occupation. Your government thought the idea of financial prosperity within India would cause groups to bury the hatchet.

Now before the resident lunatics in the asylum come and call me names and say I am supporting XYZ let me reiterate I am not. I have said similar things about Balochistan. You can't solve these through military means unless grievances are understood and acted upon. One of the biggest mistakes post 9/11 was to group all groups together as religious terrorists. Sure some may be ( ISIS type) but for many the underlying root cause is something else. They have just put on the religious cloak because other avenues have failed.

I would urge respected posters to not fall into the trap of idiots like @rpant_gabba . Yes the terrorists were saying they acted for Islam...but the people who opened their mosques and homes for shelter and to rescue the wounded and give refuge also say they are motivated by the same ideology.

Strip it all away and it's a land dispute and will only get resolved by addressing the genuine grievance of people so that terrorists can't claim to be the only ones speaking on their behalf.

I am lucky I live near a part of the world where through talks and negotiations things can happen. The leader of the IRA even met the Queen! It can and will happen but until the live of a pandit is seen as the same as the live of a Muslim by both sides then the cycle will continue in Kashmir.
Pant should sue this moron for using his name on a forum and acting like a complete idiot. His atheism has taken more lives while he sits in his couch demanding relatives of criminals be conducted experiments on.

Every instance of a loss of life is used by these guys to push their agenda.
 
Indian finance minister Nirmala Sitharaman cuts short her US visit after the Pahalgam terror attack; To return to India soon.

CCS 👀
 
On second thought, I agree, let’s divide India into Muslim, Hindu, and Punjabi majority.
Speaking of masks slipping.

It will be better to ship muslims off to the places jinnah carved out for them. complete the liaquat nehru pact. Push come to shove, dump them in the ocean
 
Indian finance minister Nirmala Sitharaman cuts short her US visit after the Pahalgam terror attack; To return to India soon.

CCS 👀
No need for these things. Decisive action against the perpetrators need to be taken on ground by army. Why this hungama by news channels.
 
@Red-Indian

I believe an outcome like this was predicted in one of your earlier exchanges.

Lets hope this triggers full blown war.

And get rid of indian peaceniks for good.

Honestly, at this point, I’m all for it being nuclear, maybe then the scam calls will finally stop and the extended warranty on my nonexistent car can finally rest in peace.
 
No need for these things. Decisive action against the perpetrators need to be taken on ground by army. Why this hungama by news channels.
Without clearance or order , Indian security can't do anything. Thats why CCS metting is going to happen in next 10-12 hour's .
 
Speaking of masks slipping.

It will be better to ship muslims off to the places jinnah carved out for them. complete the liaquat nehru pact. Push come to shove, dump them in the ocean
if you want us to take all your muslims gives us 15% of your land we will take 15% of your population, fair deal, if not we will use them in Ghazwa e hind to cause internal strife.
 
Hope the Indian response matches that of Israel.

might need to clean India first of the aman ki asha clowns


India can't even prevent China from grabbing their land. China grabbed 2000 sq km of Indian territory since 2020. India couldn't do anything about it.:inti

India also doesn't have unlimited backing like Israel gets from USA. If India tries to be like Israel, India can experience dissolution and balkanization. :inti
 
if you want us to take all your muslims gives us 15% of your land we will take 15% of your population, fair deal,
Muslims got their land in 1947. the remaining should have left.
if not we will use them in Ghazwa e hind to cause internal strife.
India muslims got a taste form Godhra. hopefully few more will encourage them to seek asylum in land of pure
 
India can't even prevent China from grabbing their land. China grabbed 2000 sq km of Indian territory since 2020. India couldn't do anything about it.:inti

India also doesn't have unlimited backing like Israel gets from USA. If India tries to be like Israel, India can experience dissolution and balkanization. :inti
due to the beggardesis?

Please
 
To my Muslim brothers and sisters in this thread:

Show condolences and move on, or help if possible.

No need to get into debates with the typical low lives on here who have plenty of skeletons in their closets and a have a fetish for trolling on sensitive issues like this.

We know our faith condemns what happened whether in peace time or war time. Have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone. The usual suspects’ hatred here is the same hatred when it’s about Palestine and when it’s about Baluchistan. They don’t care about the injured, they care about scoring cheap internet points. And yet we are expected to beg and seek forgiveness for assailants who can very easily use and twist the name of Islam to do whatever evil , as they conveniently ignore the Muslims helping out the injured and doing right etc.

So no need to give safai for anything. if you go through the post history of some of these basement dwellers, you will be appalled. No need to stoop to their level.
 
A lot of the bhakts want India to go to war with Pakistan.

I understand they are misinformed thanks to BJP WhatsApp University. So, they should educate themselves. :inti

Pakistan is a nuclear state and they are allied with China which is also a nuclear state. India really has no military ally. India is pretty isolated. All of their relations are economic in nature.

If India tries any funny war, I don't see how it is good for India and bhakts. Will bhakts fight in the frontline? :inti
 
To my Muslim brothers and sisters in this thread:

Show condolences and move on, or help if possible.

No need to get into debates with the typical low lives on here who have plenty of skeletons in their closets and a have a fetish for trolling on sensitive issues like this.

We know our faith condemns what happened whether in peace time or war time. Have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone. The usual suspects’ hatred here is the same hatred when it’s about Palestine and when it’s about Baluchistan. They don’t care about the injured, they care about scoring cheap internet points. And yet we are expected to beg and seek forgiveness for assailants who can very easily use and twist the name of Islam to do whatever evil , as they conveniently ignore the Muslims helping out the injured and doing right etc.

So no need to give safai for anything. if you go through the post history of some of these basement dwellers, you will be appalled. No need to stoop to their level.

Agree.

I guess we should stop giving attention to these nutcases. :inti

Again, we all condemn what happened. Killing innocent people should always be condemned no matter who do it. We shouldn't be selective like bhakts when it comes to condemnations.
 
Interestingly, such things dont happen in our Kashmir....

This is bound to happen, when you have a disputed territory and decide to take away its status and allow people to enter the area.

Many here love to pretend that its not disputed and there is the result.

:kp
Disputed by Terrorists. There is a way to deal with such types. Hope the culprits are caught before they try to cross the border.
 
Pakistan will never mend its ways. A terrorist and hate filled nation with supermacist religious ideology.
Rest in peace and my heart goes to the victims. Want Modi ji to avenge this. I am feeling very very angry today but cannot post my exact feelings towards the Pakistani state. You guys will reap what you sow.
 
I suspect there will be some bomb blasts at railway stations, on trains and public transportation, schools, shopping places in the coming days and months with large casualties inevitably. Unknown gunmen etc etc and the blame being placed on BLA and other entities. I hope not but this looks likely.. especially if the Israelis get involved.
 
Pakistan will never mend its ways. A terrorist and hate filled nation with supermacist religious ideology.
Rest in peace and my heart goes to the victims. Want Modi ji to avenge this. I am feeling very very angry today but cannot post my exact feelings towards the Pakistani state. You guys will reap what you sow.
We also want the establishment to reap what they sow. Stop dragging Pakistanis into this. Those who undertook this do not represent Pakistani’s, they only represent themselves..ok
 
Pakistan will never mend its ways. A terrorist and hate filled nation with supermacist religious ideology.
Rest in peace and my heart goes to the victims. Want Modi ji to avenge this. I am feeling very very angry today but cannot post my exact feelings towards the Pakistani state. You guys will reap what you sow.

Why blame Pakistan?
 
To my Muslim brothers and sisters in this thread:

Show condolences and move on, or help if possible.

No need to get into debates with the typical low lives on here who have plenty of skeletons in their closets and a have a fetish for trolling on sensitive issues like this.

We know our faith condemns what happened whether in peace time or war time. Have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone. The usual suspects’ hatred here is the same hatred when it’s about Palestine and when it’s about Baluchistan. They don’t care about the injured, they care about scoring cheap internet points. And yet we are expected to beg and seek forgiveness for assailants who can very easily use and twist the name of Islam to do whatever evil , as they conveniently ignore the Muslims helping out the injured and doing right etc.

So no need to give safai for anything. if you go through the post history of some of these basement dwellers, you will be appalled. No need to stoop to their level.
I agree with this as no one need to prove their faith to others. However, these terrorists killed people based on 3 things -

1. IDs cards
2. Whether they can read Kalma
3. Whether their male organ has Circumcision.

Basically, these terrorists wanted to verify whether a person is Muslim or not before butchering them in front of their wives and kids.

Now pls explain to us non muslims, how can we believe you that what you are saying is true and your faith indeed asks for peace? Actions speak louder than words, no?
 
India can't even prevent China from grabbing their land. China grabbed 2000 sq km of Indian territory since 2020. India couldn't do anything about it.

India also doesn't have unlimited backing like Israel gets from USA. If India tries to be like Israel, India can experience dissolution and balkanization.

due to the beggardesis?

Please

No. Not due to Bangladesh.

If you start a war with Pakistan, India may suffer big casualties and even lose lands. Pakistan is a nuclear state in case you didn't know. :inti

Remember China grabbed 2000 sq km of Indian territory since 2020. :inti
 
I agree with this as no one need to prove their faith to others. However, these terrorists killed people based on 3 things -

1. IDs cards
2. Whether they can read Kalma
3. Whether their male organ has Circumcision.

Basically, these terrorists wanted to verify whether a person is Muslim or not before butchering them in front of their wives and kids.

Now pls explain to us non muslims, how can we believe you that what you are saying is true and your faith indeed asks for peace? Actions speak louder than words, no?

There’s Muslims that drink Alcohol. Does Islam permit the consumption of Alcohol?
 
No. Not due to Bangladesh.

If you start a war with Pakistan, India may suffer big casualties and even lose lands. Pakistan is a nuclear state in case you didn't know. :inti

Remember China grabbed 2000 sq km of Indian territory since 2020. :inti
Russia is a nuclear state too but it is not able to do anything to Ukraine. I don't think India will attack Pakistan militarily but even if they do Pakistan will not touch their nuclear weapons. That will be a suicide for a country that is surviving on IMF loans. You talk about nuclear weapons as it is firecrackers. So stop giving this nuclear threats like a child, LOL.

BTW, India still controls 3 rivers on the eastern border of Pakistan right? Just throwing some random ideas buddy...IYKWIM ☺️
 
I repeat.

If India start a full-blown war, it can result in dissolution and balkanization of India. India may go back to being divided into small states just like pre-Mughal and pre-Sultanate days. :inti
 
I repeat.

If India start a full-blown war, it can result in dissolution and balkanization of India. India may go back to being divided into small states just like pre-Mughal and pre-Sultanate days. :inti

Pakistan tried to be mighty and India balkanised it into Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Now go sit in your corner this thread doesn’t concern yor dreams of Indian Balkanaizatilon.
 
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A Canadian NRI cab driver is rooting for a full-blown war, eager to see more bloodshed on both sides of the border, just so he can show up here and score points over body counts, all while enjoying his beef biryani in a rented cab. Truly, just wow.
Something about Canadians, even the Canadian Bangladeshi wannabe Aussie wants Indian balkanization.

Noticed that even Canada gets involved in wars which US or Britain start, something about them.
 
To my Muslim brothers and sisters in this thread:

Show condolences and move on, or help if possible.

No need to get into debates with the typical low lives on here who have plenty of skeletons in their closets and a have a fetish for trolling on sensitive issues like this.

We know our faith condemns what happened whether in peace time or war time. Have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone. The usual suspects’ hatred here is the same hatred when it’s about Palestine and when it’s about Baluchistan. They don’t care about the injured, they care about scoring cheap internet points. And yet we are expected to beg and seek forgiveness for assailants who can very easily use and twist the name of Islam to do whatever evil , as they conveniently ignore the Muslims helping out the injured and doing right etc.

So no need to give safai for anything. if you go through the post history of some of these basement dwellers, you will be appalled. No need to stoop to their level.

Precisely. These are the same people who rejoice over the killing of Palestinian civilians.
 
Why is she smiling?

How quickly she moved on man she didn't seem to care about the attack was just going through the motions. How sad.

On a side note when Imran met Trump during his first stint, Trump offered to mediate on Kashmir and bring a solution to the table. The Indians weren't happy about it.

I hope someone can remind Trump of this interaction and he can help secure peace.
 
not good enough. The response is going to have to be disproportional. both internally and externally
BJP is walking on glass when it comes to dealing with Terrorists. They look just like ordinary innocent citizens. A couple of innocents losing their lives at the hands of Indian army will start all the anti-India demonstrations again. That is exactly what the separatists want. Kashmir must burn to keep their livelihood going.
 
Will Modi actually take action this time, or will it be yet another attack on two innocent trees?
I actually feel sorry for the Muslims in India who have to tolerate the crap of these street shitters on daily basis, that use PP for their shitposts. They need to go to Indpassion and rant about starting wars there.
 
Breaks my heart they chose this way. Modi really gave them all the development projects to support them much to the anger of many people but he really did give them all the expressways, ropeways, trains, airports etc. Someone like me who wants peace and prosperity in the region, I feel so let down. Attacking civilians and in this manner, is just so heartless. What are they trying to achieve. There will be a disproportionate retaliation and many will suffer from this. Mostly Kashmiris. This just ruined it for everyone. Absolutely gutted.

I doubt the avg Kashmiri cares about jihad and the Pakistani narrative, they want progress. Modi government has provided more development in Kashmir during the last 10 years than what they received over the last 50 years before PM Modis arrival.

Have to keep the momentum going, keep developing the area, keep the flow of money into Kashmir going, make the security air tight.... This is the first major terror strike since article 370 removal, that itself is an achievement, previously when my ammayi Sonya was in charge it was a graveyard...
 
I don't know why bhakts are getting agitated.

All posters here (including myself) have condemned this terrorist attack. Nobody supported this attack.

We are simply highlighting the double standard of bhakts. Bhakts do not condemn BLA or Israel who also kill innocent civilians.

All civilized people condemn innocent killings no matter who do it. However, bhakts do not condemn when innocent Muslims die. Therefore, we can conclude bhakts are not civilized/decent people.

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Sweep_shot bro I don't why you keep going on and on about BLA.

You are not a Pakistani or Indian, you have no part in this, let the big boys deal it out while the Bangladeshi kittens sit back and watch. 😢
 
Will Modi actually take action this time, or will it be yet another attack on two innocent trees?
Yeah Pappuji would have given the rest of Kashmir to Pak like his great grandpa Nehru and again run to the UN ...60 yrs of disastrous Congress mismanagement and Modi has to solve it in 1 week. Atleast article 370 is permanent., so no matter that chapter is closed forever and Ind will deal with these terrorists accordingly.
 
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