Pakistan-Afghanistan Standoff (2025)

[The Bald Eagle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1979480479738028164

 

[JibranAnsari]

Can I ask why you are so confident in US involvement?

What do you think Pakistani response should be to Afghan suicide bombers? Give them roses?

We are so naive to believe that we have all started this that we have Afghan suicide bombers here. How did they get here crossing all the permanent army check points? These are our home grown groups, which military funded and created ages ago. In the region pakistan have conducted 9 major operations in last 23 years and after every operation they claim that they have defeated the 'terrorists'. The fact of the matter is that pakistan establishment has had fruitful arrangement with trumps administration and pakistan as always will be their hired gun in the region. Destabilize afghanistan, change regime and give them Bagram airbase. Ofcourse everyone remembers the very recent footlicking by pakistani premier in qatar.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

We are so naive to believe that we have all started this that we have Afghan suicide bombers here. How did they get here crossing all the permanent army check points? These are our home grown groups, which military funded and created ages ago. In the region pakistan have conducted 9 major operations in last 23 years and after every operation they claim that they have defeated the 'terrorists'. The fact of the matter is that pakistan establishment has had fruitful arrangement with trumps administration and pakistan as always will be their hired gun in the region. Destabilize afghanistan, change regime and give them Bagram airbase. Ofcourse everyone remembers the very recent footlicking by pakistani premier in qatar.

Remember, this conflict has been simmering for a long time, Pakistan also bombed Afghanistan in 2022.

I don't think there was Trump then or Bagram was ever mentioned.

 

[Red-Indian]

This dramatisation of everything that happens outside the cricket field is getting out of hand, Afghans imitating Indians. Crybabies

I don't blame Pakistan for this actually. In war innocents die. I'm sure India killed a few innocents in Pakistan retaliating against terrorist attacks. Israel killed innocents retaliating against Hamas terrorist attacks. Pakistan has probably killed a few innocents retaliating against TTP and Taliban terrorist attacks.

It happens...unfortunately. This time Pakistan is on the bad side of it. Next time it will be someone else. You can't tolerate senseless terrorism. Unfortunately a few innocents will die in the process of stopping it.

 

[Champ_Pal]

The ugly spokesperson from India this morning condemning Pakistan’s military actions against Afghanistan and categorising Pakistan as a terrorist state…

What do these guys wake up and drink in the morning before they turn up to the office? The whole world knows Afghanistan is the hub of global terrorism!

Ugly is what Pak army is doing attacking innocent people in Afghanistan.

Before you ask what Indian media does in the morning, you have to look at your own country.

A country that befriends anyone for money ------> sells its own people (US Drone strikes) ------> proceeds to double cross US after taking billions from them ------> then befriends China which is a rival of US ------> Cries day and night about Palestinians ------> Criticizes Israel and West for Palestinian sufferings ------> then goes back to US and praises the same president that was supporting Israel ------> calls him the great Pigeon of peace ------> then shoots hundreds of its own people who were marching in support of Palestinians ------> then pretends to be a victim of Islamic terrorism while hiding some useful terrorists in its own backyard ------> Cries about the state of Muslims in Modi India ------> Proceeds to shoot its own Muslims who were marching for Palestinians......

The above is something no nation can dream to achieve. But Indians are bad and its all India's fault..

 

[Bewal Express]

Who told you this?

Was it @Savak sources?

Trump announced that we will get the Airbase back a few weeks, how did he know? Did he premonition? We know America will not in Afg after having their arrse kicked last time, and they have to find mercenaries that will do the dirty work for a few dollars, people who quite happy to have their own soldiers killed and their make sacrifices of their citizens. The same guys that swear an oath and break up without a thought
"Bad things are going to happen"

 

[IronShield]

In the background he has been threatening the Afghans for months. It wasnt long ago that we saw America teaming up with Ind in Afghanistan against us and here we are allowing Ind back in to keep some **** in power.
We needed an Afghanistan that at least wasnt a threat to us and here we are, declaring war and making sure they team up with Ind and Iran is also going to be worried about this base as it will also be used to attack them.
As I said Munir has decided that he has to die in office because of the crimes he has committed. This is a disaster in Foreign policy that will haunt PK for decades. The Inds must be loving this
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I think you need to step back a bit and view things outside the prism of Pakistani politics.

Afghanistan has always been a threat, where do all the terrorist go and hide? They sneak in and out of Afghanistan even you must admit. Now that India wants to stir a 2 front war, then it is absolutely imperitive that Afghanistan threat is eliminated once and for all now with a huge buffer zone. It has to to be imposed. Secondly, if the TTP ever got its way, it would want to impose its law on the rest of Pakistan. Lessons must be learnt, that the state cannot allow these repressible creatures dressed up in religious garb, ever allowed to have a militant presence. Cut them down to size and if you ever feel sorry, just look over at what happened to Syria and Iraq when these vile creatures took over and remember that they will have no mercy for you and your family, and will most probably takeaway your women as prize of war. by declaring you as non muslims.....

Indians are not loving this, they have been humiliated and are now desperate, the perceived military superiority gone in a puff of smoke.... and now reduced to making friends with people that they once condemned.

Iran, I have voiced before is the biggest backstabber going. God works in mysterious ways, and they have also been violated and humiliated recently at home and abroad and the regime is hanging on by a thread at the moment. Where are the BLA hideouts? Where was Kulbashan based out of? Once the TTP is settled, the butchers of sunnis of Syria and Iraq, now quietly living in Parachinar will have to be brought to justice too, as they are Iranian genocidal proxies living in Pakistan. The Iranians have probably killed far more muslims than Israelis in the last 10 years...... just little that sink in for a bit.

 

[Bewal Express]

I think you need to step back a bit and view things outside the prism of Pakistani politics.

Afghanistan has always been a threat, where do all the terrorist go and hide? They sneak in and out of Afghanistan even you must admit. Now that India wants to stir a 2 front war, then it is absolutely imperitive that Afghanistan threat is eliminated once and for all now with a huge buffer zone. It has to to be imposed. Secondly, if the TTP ever got its way, it would want to impose its law on the rest of Pakistan. Lessons must be learnt, that the state cannot allow these repressible creatures dressed up in religious garb, ever allowed to have a militant presence. Cut them down to size and if you ever feel sorry, just look over at what happened to Syria and Iraq when these vile creatures took over and remember that they will have no mercy for you and your family, and will most probably takeaway your women as prize of war. by declaring you as non muslims.....

Indians are not loving this, they have been humiliated and are now desperate, the perceived military superiority gone in a puff of smoke.... and now reduced to making friends with people that they once condemned.

Iran, I have voiced before is the biggest backstabber going. God works in mysterious ways, and they have also been violated and humiliated recently at home and abroad and the regime is hanging on by a thread at the moment. Where are the BLA hideouts? Where was Kulbashan based out of? Once the TTP is settled, the butchers of sunnis of Syria and Iraq, now quietly living in Parachinar will have to be brought to justice too, as they are Iranian genocidal proxies living in Pakistan. The Iranians have probably killed far more muslims than Israelis in the last 10 years...... just little that sink in for a bit.

I stopped reading after you said Afghanistan is a threat. No doubt a nuisance but a threat? Really

 

[LordJames]

I stopped reading after you said Afghanistan is a threat. No doubt a nuisance but a threat? Really

Afghanistan is a threat to security of Pakistan due to TTP operating in Pakistan and then retreating back into Afghanistan. Mufti Taqi Usmani went to Afghanistan to meet TTP in a meeting which was facilitated by the Taliban.

https://x.com/Roohan_Ahmed

There are hundreds of officers, JCOs and NCOs of Pakistan Army who have been killed by TTP and it is a hard reality so it is a security threat in terms of casualties on almost daily basis.

In context, this is the exact argument which used to be made by Americans that Taliban used to retreat back into Pakistan (and they did) as we know about Quetta Shura etc.

 

[LordJames]

Afghanistan is a threat to security of Pakistan due to TTP operating in Pakistan and then retreating back into Afghanistan. Mufti Taqi Usmani went to Afghanistan to meet TTP in a meeting which was facilitated by the Taliban.

https://x.com/Roohan_Ahmed

There are hundreds of officers, JCOs and NCOs of Pakistan Army who have been killed by TTP and it is a hard reality so it is a security threat in terms of casualties on almost daily basis.

In context, this is the exact argument which used to be made by Americans that Taliban used to retreat back into Pakistan (and they did) as we know about Quetta Shura etc.

Sorry, link

https://twitter.com/x/status/1551920530890137600

 

[Bewal Express]

Afghanistan is a threat to security of Pakistan due to TTP operating in Pakistan and then retreating back into Afghanistan. Mufti Taqi Usmani went to Afghanistan to meet TTP in a meeting which was facilitated by the Taliban.

https://x.com/Roohan_Ahmed

There are hundreds of officers, JCOs and NCOs of Pakistan Army who have been killed by TTP and it is a hard reality so it is a security threat in terms of casualties on almost daily basis.

In context, this is the exact argument which used to be made by Americans that Taliban used to retreat back into Pakistan (and they did) as we know about Quetta Shura etc.

I am not denying the TTP are evil scum, my argument is that this war has nothing to do with them being a security threat. This war is being fought to keep promises to Trump. The fat slob said that he took a full part in the genocide of the Palestinians and gave Israel all weapons they are asked for and he asked for 3 things from us- recognise Israel, which for all intents purposes we have done, a war with with Afghanistan because America needs a base and rare earth minerals, which are needed for high tech components. In return they agreed to let Munir kill Pks and do as he pleases. Which of these benefit PKs?

 

[LordJames]

I am not denying the TTP are evil scum, my argument is that this war has nothing to do with them being a security threat. This war is being fought to keep promises to Trump. The fat slob said that he took a full part in the genocide of the Palestinians and gave Israel all weapons they are asked for and he asked for 3 things from us- recognise Israel, which for all intents purposes we have done, a war with with Afghanistan because America needs a base and rare earth minerals, which are needed for high tech components. In return they agreed to let Munir kill Pks and do as he pleases. Which of these benefit PKs?

Let me try to answer you another way.

Turkiye faced waves of Terrorism on its soil and despite having a better economy failed to root out Terrorism because Terrorists used to commit Terrorism and then cross the border into Syria and Iraq.

The situation left Turkiye no choice but to create a buffer zone and a security corridor outside of their borders to prevent Terrorist from entering into Turkiye.

Pakistan has the exact same issue with TTP and this would have needed a resolution because Pakistan is sick and tired of lifting coffins!

If you are saying that Pakistan had a genuine problem and the solution also happens to align with US Interest may be we can agree.

But you can't deny that Pakistan couldn't have just gone on lifting coffins on a daily basis. The solution was political and not military.

But Pakistan Army has proven to be consistently stupid!

Why Military Action will not work?

Taliban are not popular in Afghanistan but Pakistan Army has aligned the whole Afghan nation against a common enemy due to their military action so Pakistan Army has strengthened Taliban instead of weakening it.

The issue has now become of "Pakistan as an aggressor" instead of TTP Terrorism inside Pakistan.

I believe that with or without US, Asim Munir would have crossed the border because this man will burn the country to the ground instead of seeking the only solution which is to Release Imran Khan and let Pushtuns solve the issue!

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[mazkhan]

Ttp demands are taking fata from provincial control anxld state control and implementing their law

And they are not budging

Whilst the afgan taliban dont even recognise the border and want to redraw they've stated this and even stated it in doha that they dont recognise the durrand line .

In 1960s afghanistan invaded bajaur agency and dir state in nwfp it took pakistan a year to kick the invading afghanis out .


So treat this bewals conspiracy theory of munir causing this war because trump wants bagram with a shovel load of salt .

If us wanted bagram they could send their airborne divisions and special forces and secure the whole base within a couple of days and the taliban wouldn't even dare attack them because apaches and drones and a10s would wipe em out if they attacked the base.