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Pakistan-Afghanistan Standoff (2025)

Was Pakistan’s Kabul strike a reckless move or a necessary response?

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HalBass9 said:
Afghanistan is a landlocked nation, and that geography alone defines its limits. Without Pakistan, Afghanistan cannot sustain, let alone win, any prolonged conflict. Iran, too, has no incentive to see a strong Taliban grip in Kabul, it runs counter to Tehran’s strategic interests.

History serves as the clearest reminder, Afghanistan didn’t defeat the Soviets on its own, it did so with Pakistan’s logistical depth and America’s funding. Those victories weren’t born from mountain swordsmen, but from strategy, supply chains, and intelligence support.

Today’s wars aren’t fought with swords and horses, they’re fought with alliances, technology, and diplomacy. Pakistan isn’t looking to occupy Afghanistan, it doesn’t need to. It’s right next door, and proximity itself is power.
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The landlocked geography and topography also defines the nature of the society. Afghanistan is still a closed, xenophobic, nomadic society compared to Pakistan (and India) which have had civilizations walk through them. In Afghanistan, weddings etc are still done within a tight tribal circle, and movement throughout the country is still difficult.

Even in a diaspora setting, you see people of Pakistan married to other cultures etc, how many times do you witness this in Afghan diaspora?

Kabul is an exception because it is a cosmopolitan city but it is also a melting pot firstly due to Soviet (communist) and then Western influence due to war in Afghanistan.

US/NATO left Afghanistan because they didn't want to keep pumping money into Afghanistan for no gain, otherwise they did not lose any major tactical battles in Afghanistan and Taliban had the luxury to retreat into Pakistan and seek medical care etc.

The entire world assisted the Afghans against Soviet

British retreated due to terrain and inability to secure the long supply lines.

When it comes to Pakistan Army, they will fight for survival and they know the language, terrain, tactics and they will deny land access and bombing runs of PAF into Afghanistan will be training exercises which will bring utter devastation to Taliban sanctuaries. No doubt, Taliban will mount successful Gorilla operations but Taliban will take insurmountable loses against Pakistan Army and PAF and they must realize that backing TTP may cost them Afghanistan!

@IronShield @ElRaja

I do not believe that Taliban are impervious to Pakistan Army and PAF, in fact I think the opposite! Pakistan will take loses but the rate of attrition on the Taliban will be monumental.

All this BS about beating British, Soviet, US/NATO does not apply to Pakistan in my opinion.

What do you guys think?

But I do not want Muslims to fight one another at any cost!
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LordJames said:
The landlocked geography and topography also defines the nature of the society. Afghanistan is still a closed, xenophobic, nomadic society compared to Pakistan (and India) which have had civilizations walk through them. In Afghanistan, weddings etc are still done within a tight tribal circle, and movement throughout the country is still difficult.

Even in a diaspora setting, you see people of Pakistan married to other cultures etc, how many times do you witness this in Afghan diaspora?

Kabul is an exception because it is a cosmopolitan city but it is also a melting pot firstly due to Soviet (communist) and then Western influence due to war in Afghanistan.

US/NATO left Afghanistan because they didn't want to keep pumping money into Afghanistan for no gain, otherwise they did not lose any major tactical battles in Afghanistan and Taliban had the luxury to retreat into Pakistan and seek medical care etc.

The entire world assisted the Afghans against Soviet

British retreated due to terrain and inability to secure the long supply lines.

When it comes to Pakistan Army, they will fight for survival and they know the language, terrain, tactics and they will deny land access and bombing runs of PAF into Afghanistan will be training exercises which will bring utter devastation to Taliban sanctuaries. No doubt, Taliban will mount successful Gorilla operations but Taliban will take insurmountable loses against Pakistan Army and PAF and they must realize that backing TTP may cost them Afghanistan!

@IronShield @ElRaja

I do not believe that Taliban are impervious to Pakistan Army and PAF, in fact I think the opposite! Pakistan will take loses but the rate of attrition on the Taliban will be monumental.

All this BS about beating British, Soviet, US/NATO does not apply to Pakistan in my opinion.

What do you guys think?

But I do not want Muslims to fight one another at any cost!
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Pakistan army cannot afford to keep bombing Afghanistan for a sustained period of time. Who will pay for it?
Pakistan army already losing intolerable amount of soldiers against TTP and the Baloch's.

What is the objective of attacking Afghanistan? If the objective is to force them to stop TTP? That is comical at best. Is it to send a message to stop them from engaging with India? Afghans will never accept to be puppets.

Taliban sent a firm message on the border. They do not have missiles or planes but still they have the will to kill Pak soldiers on the border. They are not afraid. If they can survive USA/Nato bombing then they can survive PAF bombings too.
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
Pakistan army cannot afford to keep bombing Afghanistan for a sustained period of time. Who will pay for it?
Pakistan army already losing intolerable amount of soldiers against TTP and the Baloch's.

What is the objective of attacking Afghanistan? If the objective is to force them to stop TTP? That is comical at best. Is it to send a message to stop them from engaging with India? Afghans will never accept to be puppets.

Taliban sent a firm message on the border. They do not have missiles or planes but still they have the will to kill Pak soldiers on the border. They are not afraid. If they can survive USA/Nato bombing then they can survive PAF bombings too.
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The objective is to stop TTP carrying out murderous attacks on Pakistani territory. Nothing else. Why would anyone care otherwise if Taliban want to have relations with India? You can build Hindu temples in Kandahar for all anyone else cares, that is your business.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The objective is to stop TTP carrying out murderous attacks on Pakistani territory. Nothing else. Why would anyone care otherwise if Taliban want to have relations with India? You can build Hindu temples in Kandahar for all anyone else cares, that is your business.
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I think as much as India has right to target terrorist establishments in Pakistan, the latter also has the logical right to target TTP on Afghan soil based on their intelligence to protect against terrorist attacks.

Its just that the coincidence is too high for the attack being motivated by the US for Bagram Air base. We have seen the bootlicking of Shebaz yesterday and this affirms it even morr
 
Theanonymousone said:
I think as much as India has right to target terrorist establishments in Pakistan, the latter also has the logical right to target TTP on Afghan soil based on their intelligence to protect against terrorist attacks.

Its just that the coincidence is too high for the attack being motivated by the US for Bagram Air base. We have seen the bootlicking of Shebaz yesterday and this affirms it even morr
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Shebaz is a bootlicker, I won't argue with that. I have said the same on here on many occasions, in fact when I described him as a lapdog yesterday the comment got removed.
 
Pakistan must secure its border and continue targeting TTP safe havens in Afghanistan. If the Taliban choose to escalate, they will face limits, unlike during the Soviet or US interventions, it will be much harder for them to recruit and move foreign fighters today.

India may provide money or materiel, but Afghanistan is unlikely to send fighters on its behalf.

Pakistan is not seeking to annex or occupy Afghan territory, it simply expects Afghanistan to stop providing sanctuary to the TTP, which will not be tolerated.
 
Yes you have to kill terrorists but this was a poor strategy by bombing places near Kabul.

Now they have created thousands of potential terrorists who were just poor people with no future but now will be brainwashed along with given finances and be told to attack Pakistan.

Instead of outright bombing from the air, send in professional combat assassins and also fund the tribes living on the border on the Pak side. The money used on bombs, give it to them and more. Within months they will secure the border, as thousands can fight, fire a gun and need jobs to feed their families.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The objective is to stop TTP carrying out murderous attacks on Pakistani territory. Nothing else. Why would anyone care otherwise if Taliban want to have relations with India? You can build Hindu temples in Kandahar for all anyone else cares, that is your business.
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OK. But why did Pakistan train the Taliban, provide safe sanctuaries, and allow the Taliban to carry out murderous attacks in Afghanistan? Even though you are Pakistani, I hope you can see from a human point of view how vile the Pakistan Army’s policy has been. Today, the ‘good/bad Taliban’ policy is costing many young Pakistani soldiers their lives
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
OK. But why did Pakistan train the Taliban, provide safe sanctuaries, and allow the Taliban to carry out murderous attacks in Afghanistan? Even though you are Pakistani, I hope you can see from a human point of view how vile the Pakistan Army’s policy has been. Today, the ‘good/bad Taliban’ policy is costing many young Pakistani soldiers their lives
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Which time in history are you referring too? The Soviet occupation of Afghanistan?
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
OK. But why did Pakistan train the Taliban, provide safe sanctuaries, and allow the Taliban to carry out murderous attacks in Afghanistan? Even though you are Pakistani, I hope you can see from a human point of view how vile the Pakistan Army’s policy has been. Today, the ‘good/bad Taliban’ policy is costing many young Pakistani soldiers their lives
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Which country is not doing this, that's not a regional or global power?
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
OK. But why did Pakistan train the Taliban, provide safe sanctuaries, and allow the Taliban to carry out murderous attacks in Afghanistan? Even though you are Pakistani, I hope you can see from a human point of view how vile the Pakistan Army’s policy has been. Today, the ‘good/bad Taliban’ policy is costing many young Pakistani soldiers their lives
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You are talking as if the Taliban somehow just wandered over from Pakistan into a secular Afghanistan and transformed the country into jihadi warriors. Mate I have some news for you. Afghanistan was never about nightclubs and hen parties. If the Taliban had been outsiders coming in from Pakistan, they would have been wiped out by the locals within a month.

I don't know which Afghanistan you are talking about, but it's not the one the rest of the world is familiar with.
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
Pakistan army cannot afford to keep bombing Afghanistan for a sustained period of time. Who will pay for it?
Pakistan army already losing intolerable amount of soldiers against TTP and the Baloch's.

What is the objective of attacking Afghanistan? If the objective is to force them to stop TTP? That is comical at best. Is it to send a message to stop them from engaging with India? Afghans will never accept to be puppets.

Taliban sent a firm message on the border. They do not have missiles or planes but still they have the will to kill Pak soldiers on the border. They are not afraid. If they can survive USA/Nato bombing then they can survive PAF bombings too.
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they survived Nato Bombing . They can survive PAF bombing too. but not while remaining in Kabul and running the country. They can go and hide in Caves to survive Bombing like they are trained for. TTP killing Pak Men on this side of border had its limit and its been exhausted by TTA
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
OK. But why did Pakistan train the Taliban, provide safe sanctuaries, and allow the Taliban to carry out murderous attacks in Afghanistan? Even though you are Pakistani, I hope you can see from a human point of view how vile the Pakistan Army’s policy has been. Today, the ‘good/bad Taliban’ policy is costing many young Pakistani soldiers their lives
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So, to be clear- history started at the time of the Soviets?

Afghanistan have never wronged Pakistan at all?

I actually do not agree with the Pakistan approach but the TTP need to be stopped but the Afghan mindset of victimisation is unparalleled.

Take the Bangladeshi brothers now they have genuine gripes against Pakistan and as a Pakistani, it is shameful what Pakistan did to Bangladesh but it is amazing and inspiring to see the big hearts of the Bangladeshi brothers now.

On the other hand, Afghanistan... well less said the better tbh.
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
OK. But why did Pakistan train the Taliban, provide safe sanctuaries, and allow the Taliban to carry out murderous attacks in Afghanistan? Even though you are Pakistani, I hope you can see from a human point of view how vile the Pakistan Army’s policy has been. Today, the ‘good/bad Taliban’ policy is costing many young Pakistani soldiers their lives
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Pakistan learnt from the 1960s when Afghans constantly meddled with money and then tried to actually invade our Western pronvinces. Only then Pakistan realised that it was a disaster having a hostile Afghanistan.

Ofcourse our policy, as anyone can see, has been a resounding disaster but that's our military think tank for you. My point is, this enmity is not one-sided at all. I am baffled to constantly see it given as such. It's like the entire Afghan nation has amnesia about the 60s.
 
Pakpak said:
Pakistan learnt from the 1960s when Afghans constantly meddled with money and then tried to actually invade our Western pronvinces. Only then Pakistan realised that it was a disaster having a hostile Afghanistan.

Ofcourse our policy, as anyone can see, has been a resounding disaster but that's our military think tank for you. My point is, this enmity is not one-sided at all. I am baffled to constantly see it given as such. It's like the entire Afghan nation has amnesia about the 60s.
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Exactly my point bhai, spot on!

Afghans forget pre Soviet and paint a picture of being angelic!
 
Watching videos from Afghanistan, their posts being bombed. One was a drone footage of 2 Afghan tanks being destroyed. Unsure if allowed to add such media here.
 
I was reading Taliban intended the 'retaliation' to be a small show with no consequence but lost total control when too many militants headed to the border.

Some of the videos are borderline comical, hordes approaching the border with guns then running away at the first shots.
 
Pakpak said:
I was reading Taliban intended the 'retaliation' to be a small show with no consequence but lost total control when too many militants headed to the border.

Some of the videos are borderline comical, hordes approaching the border with guns then running away at the first shots.
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I am not sure what they are doing fighting conventionally. They are not built for that.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
U can add from authentic sources not from any random accounts
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What are authentic sources though? All those videos are from online accounts which track military activity around the world in conflict zones. You won't have the likes of BBC and Sky News and DAWN covering 3 PAF soliders climbing a Taliban outpost or drones destroying an Afghan tank.
 
ahsan17 said:
I am not sure what they are doing fighting conventionally. They are not built for that.
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They're not at all you're correct.

So far the only videos we have of soldiers capturing posts and of killing the other side are from the Pakistani side. It's a one sided conflict. Afghans don't have answer to airpower or tanks or larger longer range artillery pieces, which will all cause confirmed casualities. Never mind in a larger conflict rockets and missiles.

Nor can they run into another country to hide, like they did when they fought the US.
 
Pakpak said:
They're not at all you're correct.

So far the only videos we have of soldiers capturing posts and of killing the other side are from the Pakistani side. It's a one sided conflict. Afghans don't have answer to airpower or tanks or larger longer range artillery pieces, which will all cause confirmed casualities. Never mind in a larger conflict rockets and missiles.

Nor can they run into another country to hide, like they did when they fought the US.
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They can blow themselves up in marketplaces and then declare victory when the other side can't be bothered with Afghanistan anymore.

It's this tactic that Pakistan will need to worry about.
 
A lot of Afghans I know were very happy at the time when India launched strikes in Pakistan 7th May
 
cricketfan24 said:
Rather then attacking kabul its the wakhan corridor we should target and takeover
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Most of its 5000m + altitude you would need china to engineer roads bridges and tunnels something in that terrain.

Best option is afghanistan factionalises into ethnic regions

Its time iran backs its farsiwans , hazaras carve their area and tajiks and uzbeks take the north.

That will leave the lar ethnofascists who will be hemmed in from ethnic groups who hate them in north and then the pakistan border where once pti is removed we can go after the bar faction and end yaw afghan.
So then they will be hemmed from the south and east by gul khan pathans sellouts to them and panjabee sons of hindus .

But this time due to making pakistan their enemy there won't be any isi or hamid gul helping they will be wedged and landlocked and pakistan can simply stop trade route and atta and via drones and artillery create a buffer zone and maybe taking some strategic posts from them . They will be screwed .


They only won against Russia because of pakistan

And against usa they could mount their resistance due to being able to move across into pakistan .

Hilarious stuff from these afghans did they really think a few klashnikovs and night vision goggles and slippers they could take on a battle hardened conventional military .
 

Pakistan accepts Afghan Taliban regime’s request for 48-hour ceasefire​


Ministry of Foreign Affairs has announced that Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban regime have agreed to a temporary ceasefire for 48 hours, starting today at 6 p.m. after fresh clashes erupted last night along Pak- Afghan border with Pakistan Army responded swiftly, killing terrorists and forcing the rest to retreat, said security sources.

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the decision was made at the Taliban’s request and with the mutual consent of both sides. During the ceasefire, both parties will engage in constructive dialogue to make a sincere effort to find a positive solution to a complex but solvable issue, the ministry added.

“This temporary pause aims to create space for meaningful discussions and promote stability along the border,” the ministry said in a statement.

Earlier, Pakistan carried out 'precision atrikes' against Afghan Taliban regime and terrorists hideouts in Kandahar and Kabul, destroying several Taliban battalion headquarters, according to security sources.

In Kandahar, the Pakistan Army struck Battalion Headquarters 4 and 8, as well as Border Brigade 5. “All targets were carefully selected to be isolated from civilian populations and were successfully destroyed,” said security officials.


In Kabul, the operation targeted the leadership and central hub of the Fitna al-Hindustan network. Security sources emphasised that the Pakistan Army is fully capable of delivering a strong response to any act of aggression.

“These operations demonstrate our capability to precisely neutralise terrorist infrastructure while minimising risks to civilians,” officials added.

tribune.com.pk

Pakistan, Afghan Taliban regime’s agree to 48-hour temporary ceasefire | The Express Tribune

Ceasefire request came after Pakistan carried out 'precision strikes' against terrorist hideouts in Kandahar, Kabul
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Ball Blazer said:

Pakistan accepts Afghan Taliban regime’s request for 48-hour ceasefire​


Ministry of Foreign Affairs has announced that Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban regime have agreed to a temporary ceasefire for 48 hours, starting today at 6 p.m. after fresh clashes erupted last night along Pak- Afghan border with Pakistan Army responded swiftly, killing terrorists and forcing the rest to retreat, said security sources.

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the decision was made at the Taliban’s request and with the mutual consent of both sides. During the ceasefire, both parties will engage in constructive dialogue to make a sincere effort to find a positive solution to a complex but solvable issue, the ministry added.

“This temporary pause aims to create space for meaningful discussions and promote stability along the border,” the ministry said in a statement.

Earlier, Pakistan carried out 'precision atrikes' against Afghan Taliban regime and terrorists hideouts in Kandahar and Kabul, destroying several Taliban battalion headquarters, according to security sources.

In Kandahar, the Pakistan Army struck Battalion Headquarters 4 and 8, as well as Border Brigade 5. “All targets were carefully selected to be isolated from civilian populations and were successfully destroyed,” said security officials.


In Kabul, the operation targeted the leadership and central hub of the Fitna al-Hindustan network. Security sources emphasised that the Pakistan Army is fully capable of delivering a strong response to any act of aggression.

“These operations demonstrate our capability to precisely neutralise terrorist infrastructure while minimising risks to civilians,” officials added.

tribune.com.pk

Pakistan, Afghan Taliban regime’s agree to 48-hour temporary ceasefire | The Express Tribune

Ceasefire request came after Pakistan carried out 'precision strikes' against terrorist hideouts in Kandahar, Kabul
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Taliban have denied they requested it
 
Ball Blazer said:

Pakistan accepts Afghan Taliban regime’s request for 48-hour ceasefire​


Ministry of Foreign Affairs has announced that Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban regime have agreed to a temporary ceasefire for 48 hours, starting today at 6 p.m. after fresh clashes erupted last night along Pak- Afghan border with Pakistan Army responded swiftly, killing terrorists and forcing the rest to retreat, said security sources.

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the decision was made at the Taliban’s request and with the mutual consent of both sides. During the ceasefire, both parties will engage in constructive dialogue to make a sincere effort to find a positive solution to a complex but solvable issue, the ministry added.

“This temporary pause aims to create space for meaningful discussions and promote stability along the border,” the ministry said in a statement.

Earlier, Pakistan carried out 'precision atrikes' against Afghan Taliban regime and terrorists hideouts in Kandahar and Kabul, destroying several Taliban battalion headquarters, according to security sources.

In Kandahar, the Pakistan Army struck Battalion Headquarters 4 and 8, as well as Border Brigade 5. “All targets were carefully selected to be isolated from civilian populations and were successfully destroyed,” said security officials.


In Kabul, the operation targeted the leadership and central hub of the Fitna al-Hindustan network. Security sources emphasised that the Pakistan Army is fully capable of delivering a strong response to any act of aggression.

“These operations demonstrate our capability to precisely neutralise terrorist infrastructure while minimising risks to civilians,” officials added.

tribune.com.pk

Pakistan, Afghan Taliban regime’s agree to 48-hour temporary ceasefire | The Express Tribune

Ceasefire request came after Pakistan carried out 'precision strikes' against terrorist hideouts in Kandahar, Kabul
tribune.com.pk tribune.com.pk
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Fitna al-Hindustan 🤣
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
On her twitter account her pinned comment is condemning the Taliban. The same govt which India is now lauding and hosting as honoured guests. I guess she must be really conflicted right now.
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They forget everything when it’s Pakistan

Bunch of hypocrites
 
Rana said:
They forget everything when it’s Pakistan

Bunch of hypocrites
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These type of hypocrites can't even walk around Afghanistan showing off their hair and tight clothing that they like to display on Twitter. They don't even have the moral backbone to accept blame on their own society for that, and like to pretend it is imported from Pakistan. Absolute lunatics.
 
i see Indians are now quite on this thread after seeing Kabul and Kandhar getting bombed today Again. Smoke Rising from multiple locations after air strikes confirmed by Multiple Afghan Accounts.

Firvolous to think Pak would request 48 Ceasfire having established air superiority over Afghan Skies. Taliban and propoganda accounts lying and Indians suckin up to them is hilarious
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Their Denial Means nothing. Why would Pak Initiate it after air strikes in Kabul and Kandhar today? gotta make sense of events
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Yeah exactly. Taliban are all over the place

Supposedly Pakistan is trying to exploit divisions in Taliban too. Haqqani was told by Pakistan military to find safe spaces during some attacks.

If Pakistan can keep the border secure then this Taliban curse will be lifted very soon. They are only good for blowing up marketplaces of girl students.
 
RexRex said:
ISPR now making up stories for public consumption it seems.
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Taliban Announced Cesation of their So called Counter operation against First Airstrike in Kabul . Their FM announced they achieved their objective and ordered forces to return. But Pak continued pounding their buildings and assets from Air. Taliban have no capability to respond to air power of Pakistan. Forget about fighter Jets , our Combat drones fly uncotested in Afg Airspace.

Taliban cannot be gurella force anymore. they have country to Run . now they have govt buildings in Kabul where they house officials. They cannot hide now. All the chest thumping about being graveyard of empires is irrelevant now. Taliban will either run the country or hide in caves to wage gurella war on Pak. They cannot execute both things at same time
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Yeah exactly. Taliban are all over the place

Supposedly Pakistan is trying to exploit divisions in Taliban too. Haqqani was told by Pakistan military to find safe spaces during some attacks.

If Pakistan can keep the border secure then this Taliban curse will be lifted very soon. They are only good for blowing up marketplaces of girl students.
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in last 15 years , Despite putting up with TTP menance , Pak never attacked Afganistan. Now tables have turned. If they blow up any marketplaces in Pakistan , Response will be Kabul getting bombed . This will be new normal
 
RexRex said:
How would you know it's Kabul that was responsible for marketplace bombings or attacks on soldiers ? It could be TLP. Or BLA.
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TTP has been taking responsibility of attacks against our Forces deployed in Tribal Areas. We would nt have to find out. they will announce it. thats why they are called cavemen
 
Why Pakistan bombing Kabul and other cities..are they seeking regime change in Afganistan after Afganistan external affairs minister visit to India and the emotional welcome he received in Darul Uloom Deoband Uttar Pradesh. Trying to understand the cause of sudden policy shift. I remember pakistanis were most happy on X when Talibans took over Afganistan after hurriedly USA exit..
 
saabir said:
Why Pakistan bombing Kabul and other cities..are they seeking regime change in Afganistan after Afganistan external affairs minister visit to India and the emotional welcome he received in Darul Uloom Deoband Uttar Pradesh. Trying to understand the cause of sudden policy shift. I remember pakistanis were most happy on X when Talibans took over Afganistan after hurriedly USA exit..
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Right now just chaos in my opinion and to undermine the Taliban and cause internal strife aimed at regime change, there is a rumoured faction within the Taliban helping Pakistan locating Taliban figures (both Afghan and TTP).

Ofcourse considering the tremendous disasters of our policy in Afghanistan I doubt this gambit would be more helpful.
 
On Indian news channels they are showing some videos where Pakistan army personnel have surrendered in front of Talibans and they are begging for their life. Also one pakistani tank is captured by Talibans and it is all over the mainstream News channels.. although I don't trust indian media ..they have lost my trust long back and most of the channels owned by big corporates who are pro modi govt.
 
saabir said:
On Indian news channels they are showing some videos where Pakistan army personnel have surrendered in front of Talibans and they are begging for their life. Also one pakistani tank is captured by Talibans and it is all over the mainstream News channels.. although I don't trust indian media ..they have lost my trust long back and most of the channels owned by big corporates who are pro modi govt.
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Soft targets of local police , border officials and lightly armed fc units whom are local pashtuns anyway treated brutally desecrating bodies .


Look what they did in iran and how iran rounded them up and even ki***d 100s of them
 

ISPR slams India's 'Bollywood-Style' rhetoric, warns against regional destabilisation​


Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) has released a statement addressing the rhetoric being spread by the Indian leadership recently that mimics “Bollywood-style scripts”. The armed forces have stated that such “jingoism” and “unnecessary chest thumping” could endanger peace and stability in South Asia.

The Indian military and political leadership, directing terrorism allegations towards Pakistan, which Islamabad has repeatedly refuted“. The lies being fed to the Indian public and international audience have turned the Indian military machine into a laughing stock”.

According to the Indian newspaper Hindu, Lt Gen Ghai claimed that more than 100 Pakistani soldiers were killed during the May clashes along the Line of Control. The Indian officer also repeated India’s assertion that it had inflicted significant damage on Pakistani airbases and destroyed its air assets on the ground.

“It is saddening to see the military leadership of a nuclear-armed country issuing irresponsible statements under immense political pressure,” said the ISPR in response“. The world now recognises India as the true face of cross-border terrorism and the epicentre of regional instability, bent upon adventurism and hegemonism to the detriment of its people and its neighbours”.

The ISPR suggested that there is a pattern to this sort of rhetoric, which surfaces every time an election is approaching on the calendar. "It has been noted with grave concern that five months after Marka-e-Haq in the run-up to elections in Bihar and West Bengal, Indian military leadership has started parroting the same delusional, fabricated and provocative propaganda that they regurgitate before every state elections in India".

"The Indian Armed Forces and its political masters must realise that Pakistan’s people and its Armed Forces are fully capable and committed to defend every inch of our territory with full resolve. Every act of aggression will be dealt with a swift, resolute and intense response that will be remembered by posterity".

The May conflict began after an attack on a Hindu tourist in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir, which New Delhi, without providing any relevant evidence, blamed on Islamabad. Islamabad firmly rejected the accusation and called for an independent investigation.

Following India’s deadly air strikes in Punjab and Azad Jammu and Kashmir on May 7, Pakistan said it had shot down five Indian aircraft in aerial combat, later increasing the figure to seven. After both countries carried out retaliatory strikes on each other’s airbases, US mediation on May 10 led to a ceasefire.

Islamabad denied losing any aircraft and said it had struck 26 Indian targets in response to attacks on its three airbases.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
1) Afghanistan has been a hostile nation since Pakistan's creation. It was the only nation to oppose Pakistan's admission to the UN.

2) Pakistan's military establishment have rightly earned the disdain of many Afghans who saw how their territory was used as a chessboard for Pakistan's proxies.

Personally I wish Pakistan completely sealed the frontier and refused to have anything to do with them. Instead the estabishment played favourites, adopted various factions, and allowed the border become one massive smuggling route for weapons, drugs and militants.

This caused huge blowback in our country that's still being felt.

3) Afghanistan has barely lifted a finger against TTP and other anti-Pakistan elements on its soil who have been killing Pakistani forces and civilians. This well pre-dates the talk about Trump wanting Bagram back. Therefore Pakistan has every right to defend its people and target these groups within international law (unlike Israel's illegal bombardments of civilian areas).

Hopefully now that a message has been sent that Pakiatan are prepared to use military force inside Afghanistan, mutual issues can be resolved with de-escalation and dialogue.
 
Markhor said:
1) Afghanistan has been a hostile nation since Pakistan's creation. It was the only nation to oppose Pakistan's admission to the UN.

2) Pakistan's military establishment have rightly earned the disdain of many Afghans who saw how their territory was used as a chessboard for Pakistan's proxies.

Personally I wish Pakistan completely sealed the frontier and refused to have anything to do with them. Instead the estabishment played favourites, adopted various factions, and allowed the border become one massive smuggling route for weapons, drugs and militants.

This caused huge blowback in our country that's still being felt.

3) Afghanistan has barely lifted a finger against TTP and other anti-Pakistan elements on its soil who have been killing Pakistani forces and civilians. This well pre-dates the talk about Trump wanting Bagram back. Therefore Pakistan has every right to defend its people and target these groups within international law (unlike Israel's illegal bombardments of civilian areas).

Hopefully now that a message has been sent that Pakiatan are prepared to use military force inside Afghanistan, mutual issues can be resolved with de-escalation and dialogue.
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PM and Army Chief go to Washington, come back and start a war. These are mere puppets/clowns, they are uneducated and corrupt. Pakistan signs arms deals, a war starts. These are traitors who have put Pakistan in a very vulnerable position.
 
KingKhanWC said:
PM and Army Chief go to Washington, come back and start a war. These are mere puppets/clowns, they are uneducated and corrupt. Pakistan signs arms deals, a war starts. These are traitors who have put Pakistan in a very vulnerable position.
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These Puppets sing to the Tunes of Trump. Who According to Showbaz deserves Noble Peace Prize for supplying billions of dollars warfare equipment to Massacre Palestinians.
Shameless
 
aboveandbeyond said:
These Puppets sing to the Tunes of Trump. Who According to Showbaz deserves Noble Peace Prize for supplying billions of dollars warfare equipment to Massacre Palestinians.
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When you jump in bed with the devil, one who openly gloats and admits direct involvement , you’re also putting a rope around your neck in the same bed . As Zionism becomes an open tyrant defying the world , challenging all potential enemies, Pakistan is up there , as mentioned recently by the deformed oppressor in Palestine.

Previously it was to keep Pakistan down while Arab nations and Iran are fully under control. Now it’s time to turn Pakistan into Syria , this is what they hope . Imo eventually the people of Pakistan will see this , esp when hunger and violence becomes the norm and wake up . They have bought out all the politicians and forces , only people can stop this by revolution. But in the meantime, Dangerous times for Pakistan .
 
Pakistan, Afghanistan extend ceasefire as Doha talks set to begin, sources say

Pakistan and Afghanistan agreed on Friday to extend their 48-hour ceasefire until the conclusion of talks in Doha, according to three Pakistani security officials and one Afghan Taliban source.

A Pakistani delegation had already arrived in Doha while an Afghan delegation was expected to reach the Qatari capital on Saturday, said the sources, who did not want to be named as they were not authorised to speak to the media.

Word of the truce extension emerged just hours after a deadly suicide attack near the Afghan border killed seven Pakistani soldiers and wounded 13 others, underscoring the fragility of the situation.

Pakistani security officials said militants attacked a military camp in North Waziristan district, with one attacker ramming an explosive-laden vehicle into the boundary wall and two others attempting to storm the facility before being shot dead. Six militants were killed in the assault, according to a statement from the office of Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif.

Later in the day, Afghan Taliban spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid told Ariana News, a Pashto language local television news channel, that Kabul had instructed its forces to maintain a ceasefire as long as Pakistan refrained from any attack.


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Pakistan, Afghanistan extend ceasefire as Doha talks set to begin, sources say

Pakistan and Afghanistan agreed on Friday to extend their 48-hour ceasefire until the conclusion of talks in Doha, according to three Pakistani security officials and one Afghan Taliban source.
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3 Afghan Cricketers, 5 Others Killed In Pakistani Airstrike On Gathering In Paktika Province

Three Afghanistan cricketers have been killed in Pakistani airstrikes in Paktika province, the country’s cricket board said on Friday, after which it also pulled out of a tri-nation series with Pakistan and Sri Lanka next month.

In a statement, the Afghanistan Cricket Board said that the players had travelled from Urgun to Sharana in the eastern Paktika province on the Pakistan border to take part in a friendly match.

It said that “after returning home to Urgun, they were targeted during a gathering" in what it described as “a cowardly attack carried out by the Pakistani regime".

The three cricketers who lost their lives were identified as Kabeer, Sibghatullah and Haroon.

Five other people were also killed in the same attack, it was known.

Later, the ACB said that it had decided to withdraw from next month’s tri-series “as a gesture of respect to the victims".

STATEMENT BY THE AFGHANISTAN CRICKET BOARD

The official statement by the Afghanistan Cricket Board read, “The Afghanistan Cricket Board expresses its deepest sorrow and grief over the tragic martyrdom of the brave cricketers from Urgun District in Paktika Province, who were targeted this evening in a cowardly attack carried out by the Pakistani regime."

“In this heartbreaking incident, three players (Kabeer, Sibghatullah and Haroon), alongside 5 other fellow countrymen from Urgun District, were martyred, and seven others were injured. The players had earlier travelled to Sharana, the capital of Paktika province, to participate in a friendly cricket match. After returning home to Urgun, they were targeted during a gathering," the board stated.

“The ACB considers this a great loss for Afghanistan’s sports community, its athletes, and the cricketing family. The ACB also extends its deepest condolences and solidarity to the bereaved families of the martyrs and to the people of Paktika Province," it added.

“In response of this tragic incident and as a gesture of respect to the victims, the Afghanistan Cricket Board has decided to withdraw from participating in the upcoming Tri-Nation T20I Series involving Pakistan, scheduled to be played in late November," the statement read.

The ACB concluded its message with prayers for the deceased, stating, “May Allah (SWT) grant the martyrs the highest ranks in Jannah, bless the injured with a speedy recovery, and grant their families patience, reward, and strength during this time of immense grief."

Statement of CondolenceThe Afghanistan Cricket Board expresses its deepest sorrow and grief over the tragic martyrdom of the brave cricketers from Urgun District in Paktika Province, who were targeted this evening in a cowardly attack carried out by the Pakistani regime.

KABUL ACCUSES PAKISTAN OF BREAKING TRUCE

Pakistan launched air strikes inside Afghanistan late Friday, killing at least 10 people and breaking a ceasefire that had brought two days of calm to the border, AFP quoted Afghan officials as saying.

The 48-hour truce paused nearly a week of bloody border clashes that killed dozens of troops and civilians on both sides.

In Pakistan, a senior security official told AFP that forces had “conducted precision aerial strikes" in Afghan border areas targeting the Hafiz Gul Bahadur Group, a local faction linked to Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), the Pakistani Taliban.

Islamabad said that the same group had been involved in a suicide bombing and gun attack at a military camp in the North Waziristan district that borders Afghanistan, which left seven Pakistani paramilitary troops dead.

The recent clashes between the two countries were the deadliest since 2021, when the Taliban seized power in Afghanistan following the collapse of the Western-backed government as US and NATO forces withdrew after 20 years of war.

Tensions have remained high along the border since last week when Kabul accused Islamabad of carrying out a strike in the Afghan capital, a claim Pakistan’s government and military have not acknowledged.

 
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As per reports, not only cricketers but also 6 women and child lost their lifes after pak bombing civilian houses.It clearly shows Pak went after afg for a warning/ base than the terrorists.
 
Vikram1989 said:
As per reports, not only cricketers but also 6 women and child lost their lifes after pak bombing civilian houses.It clearly shows Pak went after afg for a warning/ base than the terrorists.
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what about women and children who lost life when India attacked Pakistan saying targeting terrorists?
 
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