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Pakistan-Afghanistan Standoff (2025)

Was Pakistan’s Kabul strike a reckless move or a necessary response?


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what about women and children who lost life when India attacked Pakistan saying targeting terrorists?
Haven't pak launched its missiles from the middle of residential houses ? Haven't pak flights roamed to gulf in the middle of war ? There are enough videos and flight radar app evidence about them.
 
@Rana we need you Afghanistan is turning into tandoor again....
Stupid of Afghanistan to re-initiate attacks whilst ceasefire was in place and peace negotiations were ongoing

They will have to learn the hard way I’m afraid.

I understand their ego doesn’t allow them to submit to Pakistan’s military might, but they are foolishly digging their own graves here. No one is coming to save them.
 
Tbh there is no pride in defeating an enemy that is incapable of matching your strength in military power.

I do hope Pakistan-Afghanistan wrap this up. The message has to be loud and clear. We will not tolerate your b.s and backstabbing anymore!
 
The ugly spokesperson from India this morning condemning Pakistan’s military actions against Afghanistan and categorising Pakistan as a terrorist state…

What do these guys wake up and drink in the morning before they turn up to the office? The whole world knows Afghanistan is the hub of global terrorism!
 
The ugly spokesperson from India this morning condemning Pakistan’s military actions against Afghanistan and categorising Pakistan as a terrorist state…

What do these guys wake up and drink in the morning before they turn up to the office? The whole world knows Afghanistan is the hub of global terrorism!
They are all cuckoos with little goldfish written on their faces
 
The ugly spokesperson from India this morning condemning Pakistan’s military actions against Afghanistan and categorising Pakistan as a terrorist state…

What do these guys wake up and drink in the morning before they turn up to the office? The whole world knows Afghanistan is the hub of global terrorism!
No one really cares what they have to say. Including andhbakhts.
 
No one really cares what they have to say. Including andhbakhts.
They need to improve their global image

Keep sending out these butterz guys to speak on their behalf as their spokesperson. On top of it, they chat $hit
 
It's funny how Pakistan media has been consistently referring to afghan fighters as terrorists, but the the pakistani gentlemen shooting up people in kashmir are all freedom fighters. It's ok to kill Muslims and refer to them as terrorists as long as it's Pakistan doing it. Then turn around and perpetrate the same in kashmir and act like it's justified.

What's funny is how shocked many pakistani media are that this is happening. Their facial expressions are incredulous. How dare they say? How dare afghans commit terrorism in Pakistan?
 
It's funny how Pakistan media has been consistently referring to afghan fighters as terrorists, but the the pakistani gentlemen shooting up people in kashmir are all freedom fighters. It's ok to kill Muslims and refer to them as terrorists as long as it's Pakistan doing it. Then turn around and perpetrate the same in kashmir and act like it's justified.

What's funny is how shocked many pakistani media are that this is happening. Their facial expressions are incredulous. How dare they say? How dare afghans commit terrorism in Pakistan?
What is funnier is that Indians call TTP and BLA terrorists as Freedom Fighters and openly supporting them in killing common people. People are crazy
 
Pakistanis should stop reminding the world and Afghans of all the favours they have done to them. It all falls on deaf ears!

Just do your thing, enough is enough!
 
Pakistanis should stop reminding the world and Afghans of all the favours they have done to them. It all falls on deaf ears!

Just do your thing, enough is enough!
Is it true there is sucide bombing in Islamabad and Lahore?
 

Pakistan, Afghanistan hold Doha talks to curb cross-border terrorism​


A high-level Pakistani delegation, led by the Minister of Defence, arrived in Doha, Qatar, on Saturday to hold talks with the Afghan Taliban, focusing on immediate measures to end cross-border terrorism and restore peace along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

The Taliban delegation is headed by the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan’s Minister of Defence, Mullah Mohammad Yaqoob “Mujahid,” and includes Chief of Intelligence Mullah Abdul Haq Wasiq.

Zabiullah Mujahid, spokesperson for the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, confirmed on his official X account that the delegation has traveled to Doha and urged its forces to refrain from any new movements despite reserving the right to respond to Pakistani strikes, to preserve the dignity and standing of its negotiating team.

The Pakistani delegation landed around 2:00pm PST, while the Taliban delegation arrived earlier to commence talks.


Pakistan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs emphasised that it does not seek escalation but urged the Taliban to honour their commitments to the international community and address Pakistan’s security concerns by taking verifiable action against terrorist entities, including the Foreign Afghan Khalq / Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan and Foreign Afghan Hizb-ul-Mujahideen / Balochistan Liberation Army. Pakistan also expressed appreciation for Qatar’s mediation efforts.


The recent escalation along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border followed a series of militant attacks in Pakistan, including a suicide strike that killed seven Pakistani soldiers and wounded thirteen, prompting Pakistan to conduct airstrikes in Afghanistan.

According to Reuters, these clashes, which marked the worst violence along the 2,600-kilometre frontier since the Taliban took power in 2021, led Pakistan and Afghanistan to extend a 48-hour ceasefire from October 16 to facilitate talks.


The fighting involved Afghan Taliban forces, reportedly aided by Indian-linked elements of the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, and targeted multiple sectors, including Angoor Adda, Bajaur, Kurram, Dir, Chitral, and Baramcha, with attacks aimed at facilitating militant incursions into Pakistan.

Pakistan’s military claimed over 200 Afghan Taliban fighters were killed, while twenty-three Pakistani soldiers were martyred, though Afghanistan reported fifty-eight casualties.

The cross-border violence also affected civilians, with Pakistan shutting border crossings and Afghanistan’s national cricket team withdrawing from a tournament in Pakistan following the airstrikes.

The clashes underscore Pakistan’s long-standing demand that the Afghan Taliban rein in militants operating from Afghan territory, despite ongoing diplomatic engagement.

 
We must not fight each other. Trump and the Americans are not worth it, Munirs desperation to stay in power isnt worth it, and nor will the dollars that will inevitably end up Switzerland and Portugal.
 
Tbh there is no pride in defeating an enemy that is incapable of matching your strength in military power.

I do hope Pakistan-Afghanistan wrap this up. The message has to be loud and clear. We will not tolerate your b.s and backstabbing anymore!
They need to be flattened once and for all.

This myth of their so called invincibility is what makes them take these pungay time after time.

Completely obliterate the Taliban. It's the only way.
 
It's funny how Pakistan media has been consistently referring to afghan fighters as terrorists, but the the pakistani gentlemen shooting up people in kashmir are all freedom fighters. It's ok to kill Muslims and refer to them as terrorists as long as it's Pakistan doing it. Then turn around and perpetrate the same in kashmir and act like it's justified.

What's funny is how shocked many pakistani media are that this is happening. Their facial expressions are incredulous. How dare they say? How dare afghans commit terrorism in Pakistan?
Which Pakistani shot up people in Kashmir?
 
They need to be flattened once and for all.

This myth of their so called invincibility is what makes them take these pungay time after time.

Completely obliterate the Taliban. It's the only way.
Yes, we will be doing the world a favour here.

This (Taliban) kind of ideology has no place in the world. A complete misrepresentation of Islamic values and is being enforced on people who have no choice but to follow it.

It’s shocking to see the Indians welcome this knowing how the Taliban have so much contempt for women and freedom in general!
 
We must not fight each other. Trump and the Americans are not worth it, Munirs desperation to stay in power isnt worth it, and nor will the dollars that will inevitably end up Switzerland and Portugal.
So you support TTP killing our people? Shameful
 
Yes, we will be doing the world a favour here.

This (Taliban) kind of ideology has no place in the world. A complete misrepresentation of Islamic values and is being enforced on people who have no choice but to follow it.

It’s shocking to see the Indians welcome this knowing how the Taliban have so much contempt for women and freedom in general!
We need to bomb every TTP hideout in Afghanistan
 
We need to bomb every TTP hideout in Afghanistan
Indeed,

It’s in their best interest to not give us the excuse to keep pummelling them.

Asim Munir does not care about!
 
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We must not fight each other. Trump and the Americans are not worth it, Munirs desperation to stay in power isnt worth it, and nor will the dollars that will inevitably end up Switzerland and Portugal.

Munir will eventually end up spending his retirement days in luxury in Italy or France, like most army chiefs. COAS is the most lucrative position in Pakistan. :mush
 
We must not fight each other. Trump and the Americans are not worth it, Munirs desperation to stay in power isnt worth it, and nor will the dollars that will inevitably end up Switzerland and Portugal.
I’ll tell you what wasn’t worth it,

It wasn’t worth it to devote your life and existence for a man who only took the whole nation for a ride for his own joy.

It’s all over. All those years, emotions, anger at others for his cause, fighting, abusing others for his cause….

It was all a waste of time. It wasn’t worth it.
 
They need to be flattened once and for all.

This myth of their so called invincibility is what makes them take these pungay time after time.

Completely obliterate the Taliban. It's the only way.
Really? Have you not learnt anything from history. Its not our job to be doing anything in Afghanistan. We have fought wars for America for over 45 years and it has destroyed PK.
You do know that this has nothing to do with TTP, its a war to save Munir and he saves himself by making himself indispensable to America and Israel.
Trump told us 3 weeks ago that PK will get his base back. How did he know
 
I’ll tell you what wasn’t worth it,

It wasn’t worth it to devote your life and existence for a man who only took the whole nation for a ride for his own joy.

It’s all over. All those years, emotions, anger at others for his cause, fighting, abusing others for his cause….

It was all a waste of time. It wasn’t worth it.
And what about those that swear on the Koran and break the oath to Allah. Are you a munafiq? If you aren't then tell us if they uphold this

I, ____________, do solemnly swear that I will bear true faith and allegiance to Pakistan and uphold the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which embodies the will of the people, that I will not engage myself in any political activities whatsoever and that I will honestly and faithfully serve Pakistan in ...
 
They need to be flattened once and for all.

This myth of their so called invincibility is what makes them take these pungay time after time.

Completely obliterate the Taliban. It's the only way.
Pakistan is a tolerant country that stands for peace. Don’t be surprised if, after the ceasefire, Afghan and Indian voices claim Pakistan asked for it and declare themselves winners.

Pakistan must act hard and totally demolish Afghanistan and india for the World too see both in stoneages again.
 
And what about those that swear on the Koran and break the oath to Allah. Are you a munafiq? If you aren't then tell us if they uphold this

I, ____________, do solemnly swear that I will bear true faith and allegiance to Pakistan and uphold the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which embodies the will of the people, that I will not engage myself in any political activities whatsoever and that I will honestly and faithfully serve Pakistan in ...
Don’t break the law

Don’t create disorder/fitna in the land.

There is no constitution that allows disorder and fitna to normalise.

Well done Asim Munir for nipping it in the bud before Pakistan became another Afghanistan!
 
Don’t break the law

Don’t create disorder/fitna in the land.

There is no constitution that allows disorder and fitna to normalise.

Well done Asim Munir for nipping it in the bud before Pakistan became another Afghanistan!
I asked you on this and you kacked it. Does Munir and the Junta follow an oath their voluntarily agreed to. Just yes or no
 
This is not a religious war

This nazism from the Afghan side severe nationalism tribalism they hate punjabis and the whole concept of pakistan.

This is not army of mahdi its army of modi its proven now ttp and taliban are indian proxies .

They did massive attacks on our soldiers when the taliban foreign minister was visiting his hindu masters .
 
I asked you on this and you kacked it. Does Munir and the Junta follow an oath their voluntarily agreed to. Just yes or no
I’m not here on this thread to argue what’s morally right or wrong with those who are happy for Pakistanis to be slaughtered only because it makes Munir look bad, the same Munir who manhandled and dismantled their Fitna daddy.

Go cry somewhere else!

Pakistan first!
 
I’m not here on this thread to argue what’s morally right or wrong with those who are happy for Pakistanis to be slaughtered only because it makes Munir look bad, the same Munir who manhandled and dismantled their Fitna daddy.

Go cry somewhere else!

Pakistan first!
Our own version 🤣

#pakistanfirst
#pakistandefenceleague PDL
#pakistannationalparty PNP
 
I’m not here on this thread to argue what’s morally right or wrong with those who are happy for Pakistanis to be slaughtered only because it makes Munir look bad, the same Munir who manhandled and dismantled their Fitna daddy.

Go cry somewhere else!

Pakistan first!
Why are you running and kacking it. Yes or no? Simple question only a munafiq would avoid. Is it because you have celebrated all the oath breaking and now are looking for ways to justify it. Remember this was on oath sworn to Allah and it wasnt forced upon them. Let's hear it
 
Why are you running and kacking it. Yes or no? Simple question only a munafiq would avoid. Is it because you have celebrated all the oath breaking and now are looking for ways to justify it. Remember this was on oath sworn to Allah and it wasnt forced upon them. Let's hear it
Stop hiding behind whatever mandate/mango you are talking about. You are the munafiq here. Everyone can see it! You are only giving your rubbish views on this subject because you simply cannot accept the direction of the Pakistan army being lead by a COAS that doesn’t align with your political ideology!

Either you are a munafiq (acting like you are truly concerned about Pakistan’s welfare)

Or you are a traitor who is happy to see your own countrymen being slaughtered at the hands of terrorists!


Which one is it??
 
Really? Have you not learnt anything from history. Its not our job to be doing anything in Afghanistan. We have fought wars for America for over 45 years and it has destroyed PK.
You do know that this has nothing to do with TTP, its a war to save Munir and he saves himself by making himself indispensable to America and Israel.
Trump told us 3 weeks ago that PK will get his base back. How did he know
This is just your assumption. Everything you try to link to Munir being bought, when there is no evidence this is Americas war, nor that Munir has sold himself to the Israelis. You are basing this on the mistreatment of Imran Khan when it is not linked.

Taliban have been consistently targeting Pakistani civilians and sheltering TTP. It has been going on for years.

The demands of the Taliban are clear too, they want Shariah in Tribal areas.

What the hell is Munir meant to do? Give in to them to stop you guys believing it's Americas war?

They must be confronted head on. The way India was.
 
Don’t break the law

Don’t create disorder/fitna in the land.

There is no constitution that allows disorder and fitna to normalise.

Well done Asim Munir for nipping it in the bud before Pakistan became another Afghanistan!
We 100% stand behind our army and Asim Munir.

Need to crack hard on all elements like TTP and BLA.
 
Stop hiding behind whatever mandate/mango you are talking about. You are the munafiq here. Everyone can see it! You are only giving your rubbish views on this subject because you simply cannot accept the direction of the Pakistan army being lead by a COAS that doesn’t align with your political ideology!

Either you are a munafiq (acting like you are truly concerned about Pakistan’s welfare)

Or you are a traitor who is happy to see your own countrymen being slaughtered at the hands of terrorists!


Which one is it??
You kacked it again. I asked you to for a straight forward answer on whether Munir and Co have broken their oath to Allah. The answer is yes. We know this because he and you have told us.
They, like you Munafiqs, they swore on an oath to Allah and then betrayed it. Munir isn't God and playing one isnt going to save you and all the Munafiqs. PK doesn't need criminals that take orders from Zionists, we have tried that before with both Zia and Mush and neither ended well.
The Americans use us and then betray us. Surely history teaches us something but alas idiots like you never learn.
 
This is just your assumption. Everything you try to link to Munir being bought, when there is no evidence this is Americas war, nor that Munir has sold himself to the Israelis. You are basing this on the mistreatment of Imran Khan when it is not linked.

Taliban have been consistently targeting Pakistani civilians and sheltering TTP. It has been going on for years.

The demands of the Taliban are clear too, they want Shariah in Tribal areas.

What the hell is Munir meant to do? Give in to them to stop you guys believing it's Americas war?

They must be confronted head on. The way India was.
Are you sure. So when Trump claimed that he will get Bhagram air base back, was he going to invade Afghanistan? 🤣🤣
They use idiots as proxies and they have found one in Munir. A guy that cant stick his own oath isnt going be loyal to anyone but himself. They have him by the Short and curlies. We have basically recognise Israel, throwing out our policy of justice for the Palestinians, we have to sell our rare earth Minerals because the Chinese have put export bans on theirs and we have to fight a war against our own neighbour to allow America to get a base which destabilise the whole region.
To put in context we have destroyed our relationship with both our Muslim neighbours( because the base is for Israel and America to also use against Iran) and possibly China so that Munir can stay in power to help the American. This is a disaster of historic proportions because it will through Afghanistan back in the hands of Ind.
 
would it great if this thread could be split into news of the conflict and peoples arguments over the conflict.
 
Have to say Mr Field Marshal doesn’t mess about or waste time. Have to respect it. It’s a shame he jailed a leader with an actual mandate and following. Shades of 71 and Mujibur Rahman going on here.

Sadly, Afghans have never respected Pakistan or Punjabis or the Durand Line. This was always going to happen. It’s better you show your teeth to aggressors than simply bow down.
 
Have to say Mr Field Marshal doesn’t mess about or waste time. Have to respect it. It’s a shame he jailed a leader with an actual mandate and following. Shades of 71 and Mujibur Rahman going on here.

Sadly, Afghans have never respected Pakistan or Punjabis or the Durand Line. This was always going to happen. It’s better you show your teeth to aggressors than simply bow down.

there is no such thing as Durand line from Pakistan's Perspective. We have internationally recognized border with Afg
 
This is just your assumption. Everything you try to link to Munir being bought, when there is no evidence this is Americas war, nor that Munir has sold himself to the Israelis. You are basing this on the mistreatment of Imran Khan when it is not linked.

Taliban have been consistently targeting Pakistani civilians and sheltering TTP. It has been going on for years.

The demands of the Taliban are clear too, they want Shariah in Tribal areas.

What the hell is Munir meant to do? Give in to them to stop you guys believing it's Americas war?

They must be confronted head on. The way India was.

as much i consider Munir an idiot , i stand with Pak military to route out menance of TTP from our Tribal areas
 
This myth of their so called invincibility is what makes them take these pungay time after time.

Taliban are not invincible. Americans took power from them within a month in operation Desert Storm

Even Against Russians , without ISI support backed by secret CIA mission to arm Fighters with Stinger Missiles , Russia would nt have been defeated
 
Taliban are not invincible. Americans took power from them within a month in operation Desert Storm

Even Against Russians , without ISI support backed by secret CIA mission to arm Fighters with Stinger Missiles , Russia would nt have been defeated

Stop taking credit for Afghan victories. What about the British? Did they also retreat because of the CIA and ISI?
If the ISI is so great, why did Pakistan lose Bangladesh? Why haven’t you been able to liberate Kashmir in 70 years?
 
Have to say Mr Field Marshal doesn’t mess about or waste time. Have to respect it. It’s a shame he jailed a leader with an actual mandate and following. Shades of 71 and Mujibur Rahman going on here.

Sadly, Afghans have never respected Pakistan or Punjabis or the Durand Line. This was always going to happen. It’s better you show your teeth to aggressors than simply bow down.
They haven't but thats not the reason for the conflict. Trump was promised a war against Afghanistan by Munir and in return Munir can do as he pleases with PKs.
 
Are you sure. So when Trump claimed that he will get Bhagram air base back, was he going to invade Afghanistan? 🤣🤣
They use idiots as proxies and they have found one in Munir. A guy that cant stick his own oath isnt going be loyal to anyone but himself. They have him by the Short and curlies. We have basically recognise Israel, throwing out our policy of justice for the Palestinians, we have to sell our rare earth Minerals because the Chinese have put export bans on theirs and we have to fight a war against our own neighbour to allow America to get a base which destabilise the whole region.
To put in context we have destroyed our relationship with both our Muslim neighbours( because the base is for Israel and America to also use against Iran) and possibly China so that Munir can stay in power to help the American. This is a disaster of historic proportions because it will through Afghanistan back in the hands of Ind.

Trump also wants Greenland, he is not going to get that and it's the same with Bagram.

Is it because of this that the Taliban minister up and went to visit India? Was it just it just an off the cuff, planned in the last month or so? If you believe this then you are very naive.
 
How did the Taliban come back to power after 20 years ? They are invincible.

Because of Corrupt Afghans. Americans spent Billions to prop up a society and govt but Inherent Corruption in Afg politicians and warlords allowed Taliban to take over. It is nt America's Defeat
 
Stop taking credit for Afghan victories. What about the British? Did they also retreat because of the CIA and ISI?
If the ISI is so great, why did Pakistan lose Bangladesh? Why haven’t you been able to liberate Kashmir in 70 years?

you are forgetting key word.. CIA backed ISI mission.

British Afg war has no relevance in modern warfare
 
Trump also wants Greenland, he is not going to get that and it's the same with Bagram.

Is it because of this that the Taliban minister up and went to visit India? Was it just it just an off the cuff, planned in the last month or so? If you believe this then you are very naive.
In the background he has been threatening the Afghans for months. It wasnt long ago that we saw America teaming up with Ind in Afghanistan against us and here we are allowing Ind back in to keep some **** in power.
We needed an Afghanistan that at least wasnt a threat to us and here we are, declaring war and making sure they team up with Ind and Iran is also going to be worried about this base as it will also be used to attack them.
As I said Munir has decided that he has to die in office because of the crimes he has committed. This is a disaster in Foreign policy that will haunt PK for decades. The Inds must be loving this
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Because of Corrupt Afghans. Americans spent Billions to prop up a society and govt but Inherent Corruption in Afg politicians and warlords allowed Taliban to take over. It is nt America's Defeat
They are still smarting over the humiliation. Trillions spent and nothing to show. I am not a supporter of the Taliban but its not our job to become mercenaries for the Americans.
 
I dont understand why Afghanistan--a rouge nation, tries to pick fights with much more powerful military than them? It will always set their country back few years in development.
 
Because of Corrupt Afghans. Americans spent Billions to prop up a society and govt but Inherent Corruption in Afg politicians and warlords allowed Taliban to take over. It is nt America's Defeat

The Taliban are not going anywhere. That country is full of mountains and built for guerilla warfare, about 70% of the land, and they know the place inside out. Plus they are very well networked with local tribes and clans. If the US couldn't get rid of them in 20 years, Pakistan doesn't stand a chance .. to think so is laughable.
@Bewal Express is right, this is a big mistake by muddle-headed Munir.
 
I dont understand why Afghanistan--a rouge nation, tries to pick fights with much more powerful military than them? It will always set their country back few years in development.
Bro Its all regional politics and USA is at the helm of affairs and many won't like it but pakistan has been taking instructions from USA from its very beginning. Pakistan is out on a mission of regime change in pakistan on USA's orders. USA wants a favorable govt in Afghanistan who will provide them bagram airbase and pakistan is going to help them in that. Afghan jihad, post 9/11.. everyone in the world knows pakistan's role. For some dollars, pakistan (establishment) destabilized their own country.

Anyone who thinks it has anything to do with india, the are living in fools paradise. India doesnt need to wage any kind of war against pakistan, we are in a seld destruction mode. People are not buying into anti afghan narrative anyway in pakistan.
 
The Taliban are not going anywhere. That country is full of mountains and built for guerilla warfare, about 70% of the land, and they know the place inside out. Plus they are very well networked with local tribes and clans. If the US couldn't get rid of them in 20 years, Pakistan doesn't stand a chance .. to think so is laughable.
@Bewal Express is right, this is a big mistake by muddle-headed Munir.
Acha jee Bollywood war expert

The Americans didn’t get rid of them because that’s not their goal.

If Pakistan do make it their goal to eliminate them, then be assured they will smoke out these mountain rats like no other.
 
On Indian news channels they are showing some videos where Pakistan army personnel have surrendered in front of Talibans and they are begging for their life. Also one pakistani tank is captured by Talibans and it is all over the mainstream News channels.. although I don't trust indian media ..they have lost my trust long back and most of the channels owned by big corporates who are pro modi govt.
But you trust your military rules country and media
 
Bro Its all regional politics and USA is at the helm of affairs and many won't like it but pakistan has been taking instructions from USA from its very beginning. Pakistan is out on a mission of regime change in pakistan on USA's orders. USA wants a favorable govt in Afghanistan who will provide them bagram airbase and pakistan is going to help them in that. Afghan jihad, post 9/11.. everyone in the world knows pakistan's role. For some dollars, pakistan (establishment) destabilized their own country.

Anyone who thinks it has anything to do with india, the are living in fools paradise. India doesnt need to wage any kind of war against pakistan, we are in a seld destruction mode. People are not buying into anti afghan narrative anyway in pakistan.

Can I ask why you are so confident in US involvement?

What do you think Pakistani response should be to Afghan suicide bombers? Give them roses?
 
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