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Pakistan and India confirm ceasefire ‘with immediate effect’

junoon said:
I am also patriotic Pakistani but let's be honest here. Pakistan cannot win against or match india in a conventional war especially if the war drags on for a long time.

There is nothing embarrassing about admitting that since india's population is 7 times larger, economy 10 times larger, army is 3 or 4 times larger than Pakistan. India's large land mass also ensures they have strategic depth. At best Pakistan can defend it's territory because you do need some numerical advantage in order to conquer substantial enemy territory.

But that is where pakistan's nuclear weapons come into equation. It is the nuclear deterrence that ensures our safety
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its not about winning or losing brother it’s about ghairat. When someone attacks one of your own you make a stand even if you lose.

If someone is with their wife or mother or whichever loved one and someone much bigger than them or stronger than them disrespects one of the above people, then you have every right to stand up and confront the perpetrator even if you “lose” the fight. The fact you chose to stand up and fight is what mattered.

It’s natural instinct to protect what is yours or those who were unjustly killed or oppressed. Indians probably feel the same way regarding Pahalgam, despite not knowing for sure if Pak govt was behind the attack, but it doesn’t mean we let our innocents die who had nothing to do with the incident.
 
Devadwal said:
It was fake news and already deleted. Wait for 5 more minutes.
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Haha at "deleted", that's says it all..... Haan haan one of your news channel confirming is now fake too. Epic embarrassment, We weren't done with Abhinandan and now we got three more to humiliate Hindutvas, chalo will get further confirmation that your airforce is pathetic :kp
 
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India army press conference showing a video of all terrorism Pakistan has done over the years like Parliament, Akshardham, 26/11, Uri etc and all the people that have died. Very emotional. Feeling so patriotic.
 
I hope this war does not escalate quickly out of control. Does Modi really need a war right now to gain political influence?
 
Generally speaking after Iraq war I never trust politicians. They all lie to gain political influence.
 
Rajdeep said:
India army press conference showing a video of all terrorism Pakistan has done over the years like Parliament, Akshardham, 26/11, Uri etc and all the people that have died. Very emotional. Feeling so patriotic.
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All that pales in comparison to the terrorism India has inflicted on Pakistan via TTP and BLA.
 
BDfanforever said:
I hope this war does not escalate quickly out of control. Does Modi really need a war right now to gain political influence?
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There's a lot more than just politics here. Terrorism in India can't be normalised as just another day. We know how things went down in Pakistan.
 
BDfanforever said:
I hope this war does not escalate quickly out of control. Does Modi really need a war right now to gain political influence?
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India attacked without any reason or provocation, is it?
 
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Rajdeep said:
India army press conference showing a video of all terrorism Pakistan has done over the years like Parliament, Akshardham, 26/11, Uri etc and all the people that have died. Very emotional. Feeling so patriotic.
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Has Indian army showed you all the terrorism they have done in Pakistan and IOK for decades? Add a clip of bombing civilians overnight to it as well. You are a nation based on propaganda and lies, terrorism you have carried out in IOK on millions of civilians is well documented by UN, bet you wouldn't shed a tear over it. Don't get too emotional over propaganda clips
 
So indian missiles struck Pakistan in the middle of the night at the mosque and killed 80-90 people? What kind of mosque has people gathered at wee hours. If it was a Madarassa, how has Indian media delineated this information so quickly? At this point, I can’t discern who’s more stupid - the Indians or the jingoistic Pak news channels
 
Kriketer said:
Has Indian army showed you all the terrorism they have done in Pakistan and IOK for decades? Add a clip of bombing civilians overnight to it as well. You are a nation based on propaganda and lies, terrorism you have carried out in IOK on millions of civilians is well documented by UN, bet you wouldn't shed a tear over it. Don't get too emotional over propaganda clips
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Go and complain to UN about Indian terrorism in Pakistan. They will laugh at you like they laughed at Pakistan yesterday when they wanted UN to be calling it as Falze Felag operation by Endia. But before you go, ask your defence minuster to give one more interview to Sky news

:kp
 
Kriketer said:
Has Indian army showed you all the terrorism they have done in Pakistan and IOK for decades? Add a clip of bombing civilians overnight to it as well. You are a nation based on propaganda and lies, terrorism you have carried out in IOK on millions of civilians is well documented by UN, bet you wouldn't shed a tear over it. Don't get too emotional over propaganda clips
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You are the protectors of humanity that's why your army was shielding Osama just like it shields and hides behind LeT.
 
Also funny you see how indians are all “yes sir” “sorry sir” in real life and turn into Spartan warriors online.
 
It is more embarrassing for India to claim that their jets crashed than admit they were shot down.

The level of control and censorship in their media is quite surprising. They have tried to minimise the news of Indian damages but the destruction of bases in IOK.

It is a shame for Indian public to be so unaware. I am also quite surprised to see the Indian jubilation at the murder of children. I've not seen such an expression of joy after such a tragedy in such a way ever before.
 
Very professional briefing.

Giving explicit details and reasons of the 9 targets that were picked including satellite images and stuff.

 
Bhaijaan said:
Very professional briefing.

Giving explicit details and reasons of the 9 targets that were picked including satellite images and stuff.
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Did the briefing say that civilian casualties were the aim of the mission?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The level of control and censorship in their media is quite surprising. They have tried to minimise the news of Indian damages but the destruction of bases in IOK.
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Where did u get the info about IOK bases being destroyed ? Just curious.
 
Showing caution saying this is an evolving situation, no comments may be Rubio called them to seal the lips
 
speed said:
Pakistan should send a ghaznavi missile to somnath temple, doing it historical justice too, they attacked our mosque we attack their temple.
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What would anyone gain if a holy place is attacked and some innocent worshipers in a temple are killed?
 
Killing civilians and destroying places of worship should not be celebrated. I even feel sorry for the pilots who likely died from the 5 planes downed.
 
pillionrider said:
What's the point of attacking these camps now. You think a single terrorist was actually there when it was obvious India would have a response? Those losers probably left their wives and children to deal with any attack while they cooled their heels in some Pak military cantonment.
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It's an empty gesture. If the IAF had really wanted to target terrorists, they would've likely waited atleast 6 months for this strike.
 
PakPremi said:
Killing civilians and destroying places of worship should not be celebrated. I even feel sorry for the pilots who likely died from the 5 planes downed.
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So from 3 planes, the number has increased to 5?
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1919971614197748045

So Pakistan is talking of de-escalating.

Ofc they will tell their people of taking down 4-5-6 whatever number of Indian jets.

But Pakistanis know that their "claims" have as much "proof" as Indian "claims" of Balakot terror victims or Abhinandan taking down an F-16.

You can arrange snippets of information from here and there (doosra banda in case of the F-16, fuel tanks for the downed jets) for all of these and make a case but it is not "definite proof".

The bombing of the masjids like the capture and return of Abhinandan is outright visible proof.
 
saimayubera said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1919971614197748045

So Pakistan is talking of de-escalating.

Ofc they will tell their people of taking down 4-5-6 whatever number of Indian jets.

But Pakistanis know that their "claims" have as much "proof" as Indian "claims" of Balakot terror victims or Abhinandan taking down an F-16.

You can arrange snippets of information from here and there (doosra banda in case of the F-16, fuel tanks for the downed jets) for all of these and make a case but it is not "definite proof".

The bombing of the masjids like the capture and return of Abhinandan is outright visible proof.
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Won't it be easy for them to furnish proof if they want to substantiate their claim of downing 5 Indian jets? The whole of Pakistan will be able to take pride in that.
 
Pakistan knows they can't do much so they uses terrorists and they will keep their Awam happy saying 5 planes downed while showing pictures of drop tanks.
 
So Indian army strikes deep inside Pakistan and Pakistan responds with fake news. BRAVO
 
I appreciate Pakistan Defense Minister's call to deescalate the situation.

But it should be with the condition that Pakistan will cooperate in curbing Anti Bharat terror camps operating within their territory. They acknowledge the existence of them but refuse to accept giving them financial or military assistance. They must now cooperate to ensure no terror organizations are allowed to operate within PoK.

Without this, we will keep coming to this situation in 5 years time again and again.
 
Hitman said:
Won't it be easy for them to furnish proof if they want to substantiate their claim of downing 5 Indian jets? The whole of Pakistan will be able to take pride in that.
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If they have, they should provide it.
 
Probably Balakot had victims but no-one can verify it cause Pakistan allowed journalist only after a few days and then they considered our de-escalation after 2019 to be a "victory" rather than India's "magnanimity" (I mean which war has been won by taking a single PoW?)

This really fueled Pakistan's overconfidence and then they took part in Pahalgam.

This operation has shown "visible" damage.

Now Pak can claim the 5-6 jets and de-escalate or escalate against Indian military targets but then India will escalate further and so on.
 
Breaking - Masood Azhar claiming 10 of his family members have been killed

:kp
 
Hitting Bahawalpur is big. Deep inside Pakistan. This shows Pakistan is completely vulnerable and India can hit anytime, anywhere. :kp
 
Major highlights so far for me :-
  • GOI promised retaliation for Pahalgam incident and they delivered on their word.
  • The timing of the attack was clever, the targets were strategically picked based on intel.
  • Missiles & aircrafts used for precise attacks on intended targets.
  • Pakistan taken by surprise in the late hours and could not avoid hits at many of its locations but seem to have found some success in downing some aircrafts.
  • The exact numbers and identity of the aircrafts that have been deployed and shot down should be revealed in coming hours or days after which an assessment could be made on performance of the two air forces (PAF & IAF).
  • Pakistan defense minister's gone on an international news channel to say they will back off if Bharat backs off but a Pakistani defense minister holds no more power than Asim Munir's peon so his statements hardly matter.
  • PM Modi has delivered and kept his word.
  • Pakistan's retaliation anticipated and will be a test of our defensive equipments.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
This is a staggering humiliation for India. In the space of one week their airforce has bombed their own villages and 5 jets have "crashed".
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The idea that Pakistani jets entered Indian airspace and shot down everything that stood in their way while destroying mutiple airbases .. doesn't sound the slightest bit fishy to you ? All while India is in the highest state of altertness at the border, Rafale jets standing by.

For that to happen, you'd have to believe PAF pilots have superhuman capabiltiies .. even Tom Cruise from TopGun couldn't dream of this.
 
Congratulations to Pakistan for downing Indian warplanes.

Cannot keep the jazba junoon guys down!
 
Bhaijaan said:
Major highlights so far for me :-
  • Pakistan defense minister's gone on an international news channel to say they will back off if Bharat backs off but a Pakistani defense minister holds no more power than Asim Munir's peon so his statements hardly matter.
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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: You come up with gems every now and then.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Major highlights so far for me :-
  • GOI promised retaliation for Pahalgam incident and they delivered on their word.
  • The timing of the attack was clever, the targets were strategically picked based on intel.
  • Missiles & aircrafts used for precise attacks on intended targets.
  • Pakistan taken by surprise in the late hours and could not avoid hits at many of its locations but seem to have found some success in downing some aircrafts.
  • The exact numbers and identity of the aircrafts that have been deployed and shot down should be revealed in coming hours or days after which an assessment could be made on performance of the two air forces (PAF & IAF).
  • Pakistan defense minister's gone on an international news channel to say they will back off if Bharat backs off but a Pakistani defense minister holds no more power than Asim Munir's peon so his statements hardly matter.
  • PM Modi has delivered and kept his word.
  • Pakistan's retaliation anticipated and will be a test of our defensive equipments.
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And what do you have to say about the innocent lives lost direct of this attack by a gov? And about the mosques?
 
RexRex said:
The idea that Pakistani jets entered Indian airspace and shot down everything that stood in their way while destroying mutiple airbases .. doesn't sound the slightest bit fishy to you ? All while India is in the highest state of altertness at the border, Rafale jets standing by.

For that to happen, you'd have to believe PAF pilots have superhuman capabiltiies .. even Tom Cruise from TopGun couldn't dream of this.
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None apart from Rajnikanth can do something like that.
 
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