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Pakistan bowled out for 273 in the first innings on Day 3 as England opt to enforce follow-on

That was a super delivery, would get out even the best of lefties. Tough luck for Fawad, Fawad should get more chances over some of those who do not have temperament for tests.
 
Fawad Alam since his comeback:

0
21
Average 10.50

It’s not great, is it?

That’s a 2 innings sample. Not fair really is it?

Like me arguing oh well he’s improved his performance by more than 2100% from his initial performance. What an improvement.

Duh
 
If Akram speaks his mind, Misbah will have him fired. This is the problem we have with someone holding so much power with the most powerful connections in Pakistan.

I just don’t feel Misbah wields that sort of power over Akram. Just think Akram is too well diversified (in terms of income and potential income) to worry about what Misbah may or may not say. Think it is time for someone of Akram’s stature (and by that I just mean Akram) to have an open exchange about what he deems fit and unfit about the team.
 
Fawad Alam since his comeback:

0
21
Average 10.50

It’s not great, is it?

You're basing an average off of 2 scores. Reaching. Showed more guts and willpower than most in the batting lineup, who have been failing for years.
 
All the batters look out of their depth.

Abid is a walking wicket with his low hands.

Shan is Anderson bunny
 
So 21 year old Shadab Khan was dropped to accommodate 34 year old Fawad Alam.

And in this series:

Shadab 45 & 15, average 30.00
Fawad 0 & 21, average 10.50

Shadab 2 wickets at 23.50
Fawad 2 wickets at 23.00.

I’m struggling to see why you drop a performing 21 year old to accommodate a 34 year old.
 
I feel for Fawad Alam. Guy was on his last legs and he's been made the sacrificial lamb by Misbah after being ignored for years in Asian conditions. Misbah will use this opportunity to justify the selections of Azhar and Asad in the team.
 
Watching his innings and despite the jokes on his stance he actually fought hard. No matter what people say there is potential there.

We don't need another grinder tuk tuk who makes a sluggish 30 just to get out then.

His game isn't built for oversees
 
I had a feeling as Fawad's hands were going towards the ball and away from the body on few other deliveries as well.

As I said previously, I think he could have been much more fruitful investment than Asad Shafiq almost a decade ago but, unfortunately Pak cant afford to develop him for test level at this age. He might still be able to score runs if given oppurtunities but he doesnt have much time left in him so I would like a younger player like Saud or some other to come into team.

It’s too late for FA now bro. Really hard done? Yes. Better investment (back then) than AS? Yup. Far more application and willingness to improve than that seen in AS and HS. But just too late. Could have been good in Asia, and in any case no team today is really dominating overseas. A good foundation to build upon is to win at home and capitalise on opportunities abroad. That way, you at least have one ‘safe haven’ and feel confident that you can dish out in home conditions whatever you receive in alien ones.
 
5/6 years ago Fawad would have been brilliant on UAE wickets.

Exactly 5 years ago In 2015 fawad strugged to put bat to ball vs bangladesh ODI series because of his struggle vs arafat sunny and nasir hussain.
Scored 4,0,14.
 
I just don’t feel Misbah wields that sort of power over Akram. Just think Akram is too well diversified (in terms of income and potential income) to worry about what Misbah may or may not say. Think it is time for someone of Akram’s stature (and by that I just mean Akram) to have an open exchange about what he deems fit and unfit about the team.

The problem is I don't think Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani were behind his appointment in the first place. As I was saying yesterday, even though the PCB have their history of making blunders. I don't think they are that incompetent to appoint someone with just level 2 coaching qualification and with no notable coaching experience.

I won't mention names but I will give you a hint. Misbah will keep his job at the very least until the next general elections.

Misbah's secret backer has far more authority in Pakistan than Wasim Akram, so nothing he can do here.
 
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So 21 year old Shadab Khan was dropped to accommodate 34 year old Fawad Alam.

And in this series:

Shadab 45 & 15, average 30.00
Fawad 0 & 21, average 10.50

Shadab 2 wickets at 23.50
Fawad 2 wickets at 23.00.

I’m struggling to see why you drop a performing 21 year old to accommodate a 34 year old.

That’s a separate point. Shadab did ok in the Old Trafford Test and shouldn’t have been dropped. That error does not mean Fawad should be judged on two innings.
 
So 21 year old Shadab Khan was dropped to accommodate 34 year old Fawad Alam.

And in this series:

Shadab 45 & 15, average 30.00
Fawad 0 & 21, average 10.50

Shadab 2 wickets at 23.50
Fawad 2 wickets at 23.00.

I’m struggling to see why you drop a performing 21 year old to accommodate a 34 year old.

34 year old Asad Shafiq this series:

7, 29, 5, 5
Average 11.50

I’m struggling to see why you drop a performing 21 year old to accommodate a 34 year old.
 
Rizwan performances in this series have been the most positive thing about this series.
 
Rizwan needs to get in and farm the strike with the tail here.
 
Also, we need to stop taking Yasir on these tours and invest on a of spinner.

He is too expensive and consistently overbolwed and also past it
 
Truth be told.. Fawad showed more grit than Babar and desire to grind it out ... the latter needs to learn these traits quickly


Fawad fought it out. He faced Archer steaming in.
In reality, he shouldn’t be in the side now after ten years (and his selection says much about our reserve batting capabilities) but there is no doubt he tried to apply himself.
The much lauded Babar has had a poor series for someone regarded as one of the top players in the world
 
The problem is I don't think Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani were behind his appointment in the first place. As I was saying yesterday, even though the PCB have their history of making blunders. I don't think they are that incompetent to appoint someone with just level 2 coaching qualification and with no notable coaching experience.

I won't mention names but I will give you a hint. Misbah will keep his job at the very least until the next general elections.

Haha, point taken about that. I realised what you were saying back then - for a good part my extended family have been having the ‘Insafian’ cool-aid. But equally feel that Wasim has enough of the ear of Banigala’s residents to be able to really give his opinion. This is assuming he won’t just cower behind and let a person who does not follow, is no longer interested in, make decisions about PAK cricket.

To put it another way, JM had another outburst. Yes he is known for animated outbursts but there was more meat in this one. Mudassar, one of close confidants of a certain someone from his playing days, just gave an interview detailing precisely what he makes of the new coaches/set up. I think there is enough brewing for people to realise and start receiving feedback that the operation is not working.
 
Please let's not praise Rizwan or he'll get out very soon. Not falling into the Fawad trap.

Rizwan is terrible, only plays tuk tuk, hopefully his last series etc etc
 
Mickey Arthur and Inzi have blood on their hands for sticking with Sarfraz for a year longer than they should have. Rizwan should have been in the test team around 2018.
 
Fawad pushing at a wide one from Bess, done by the extra bounce:

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Yayyy. Azhar will score a 50 and keep his place in the side. Will captain for another 4 years
 
Azhar is still there, very surprised

Suprised and disappointed. If we were going to lose we needed a few things to happen - we needed to lose badly to get rid of the backroom deadwood (Misbah, Waqar) and for the playing deadwood to fail (Azhar, Shafiq).

If Azhar gets out soon and fails in the 2nd innings Pakistan have an opportunity to turn this series into a positive by getting rid of him.
 
Suprised and disappointed. If we were going to lose we needed a few things to happen - we needed to lose badly to get rid of the backroom deadwood (Misbah, Waqar) and for the playing deadwood to fail (Azhar, Shafiq).

If Azhar gets out soon and fails in the 2nd innings Pakistan have an opportunity to turn this series into a positive by getting rid of him.

My thoughts exactly.
 
Azhar playing his part here.

Shafiq saving his best for a fluke final inning tomorrow :yk

Both will have that one inning for next series.
 
Holding talking about how pitches in Indian domestics have become harder, bouncier and faster. Allowing their batsmen to play on those kinds of surfaces abroad. Still not easy of course, but worth the improvement.

Also mentioned how it had allowed for the development of so many fast bowlers in the junior Indian ranks.
 
Rizwan performances in this series have been the most positive thing about this series.

So 21 year old Shadab Khan was dropped to accommodate 34 year old Fawad Alam.

And in this series:

Shadab 45 & 15, average 30.00
Fawad 0 & 21, average 10.50

Shadab 2 wickets at 23.50
Fawad 2 wickets at 23.00.

I’m struggling to see why you drop a performing 21 year old to accommodate a 34 year old.

Asad will get 50 or 100 in 2nd inns and save his place as usual.
 
Also, we need to stop taking Yasir on these tours and invest on a of spinner.

He is too expensive and consistently overbolwed and also past it

while misbah is in charge, the triumvirate of azhar, shafiq and yasir will be there as they are our seniors and match winners. yasir is an integral part of misbahs mindset and strategy, ie just bank on yasir getting wickets while everyone else fails including the batsmen
 
Suprised and disappointed. If we were going to lose we needed a few things to happen - we needed to lose badly to get rid of the backroom deadwood (Misbah, Waqar) and for the playing deadwood to fail (Azhar, Shafiq).

If Azhar gets out soon and fails in the 2nd innings Pakistan have an opportunity to turn this series into a positive by getting rid of him.

Yup. Shafiq’s already played a gem just this morning. Needs another tidy looking 2 or 4 runs to cap a very successful tour.
 
Maaf kardo humain. There should be no career after this for him . He is 34 and a pathetic captain we don’t need going on forward.

He looks fine. Took his time to adjust to conditions.
I am sure PCB won't mind to continue him as a player.
 
Azhar playing his part here.

Shafiq saving his best for a fluke final inning tomorrow :yk

Both will have that one inning for next series.

Looking at the weather forecast, Pakistan probably just need to get through the rest of today. Tuesday will be a wash out and Monday looks pretty iffy as well
 
Asad will get 50 or 100 in 2nd inns and save his place as usual.

doesn't look like he will get a high score this time but with misbah in charge, his place is assured regardless as he still is the golden boy in his eyes
 
I'm sure if Azhar gets a 50 he will play the next test. Not sure if he will retain the captaincy.
 
How Holding was waiting for England ro send decision upstairs when they have no reviews. Struass did not correct him either.
 
Azhar Ali approaching 6000 runs. He has been retained past his best . But I think he has a decent test career overall.
 
How Holding was waiting for England to send decision upstairs when they have no reviews. Struass did not correct him either.
 
Azhar Ali approaching 6000 runs. He has been retained past his best . But I think he has a decent test career overall.
Yes he had a pretty decent career.

However he should’ve retired a year or two ago...
 
Azhar Ali playing a meaningless inning, which for sure no pakistani fan wants at this time.... Every one wants him to be failed....
 
Asad will get 50 or 100 in 2nd inns and save his place as usual.

I honestly do not think he is capable of that. People have been saying that every innings this series, that this is the time he scores the pointless 50, but this time I don't think it's coming.
 
Get Azhar out for god's sakes. Now he'll troll our top order for next 5 years.
 
Azhar Ali approaching 6000 runs. He has been retained past his best . But I think he has a decent test career overall.

Yes a fair assessment — gone on for two or three years too long but 6000 runs at an average above 40 is a solid career
 
Azhar Ali approaching 6000 runs. He has been retained past his best . But I think he has a decent test career overall.
Can't disagree dogged batsman with lots of good contributions, however could have been a lot better overseas.
 
Azhar Ali approaching 6000 runs. He has been retained past his best . But I think he has a decent test career overall.

gritty player throughout, despite his recent troubles, his contribution shouldn't be forgotten
 
Haha, point taken about that. I realised what you were saying back then - for a good part my extended family have been having the ‘Insafian’ cool-aid. But equally feel that Wasim has enough of the ear of Banigala’s residents to be able to really give his opinion. This is assuming he won’t just cower behind and let a person who does not follow, is no longer interested in, make decisions about PAK cricket.

To put it another way, JM had another outburst. Yes he is known for animated outbursts but there was more meat in this one. Mudassar, one of close confidants of a certain someone from his playing days, just gave an interview detailing precisely what he makes of the new coaches/set up. I think there is enough brewing for people to realise and start receiving feedback that the operation is not working.

It's a good point you make about JM and I know exactly what his grievances were. It shows that it's becoming more and more obvious with who the individual/entity is behind the operation. As long as they can keep hold of their authority, Misbah ain't going nowhere.
 
Please Anderson we want wicket of Azhar.....
Please Anderson save pakistani fans from his torture...
Anderson you will be my all time favorite if you will out him..
 
That fawad guy is so so poor I m glad they didn't select him sooner.All the hype is dead now it seems

He would have done better than Misbah in UAE and Asian conditions. I agree he would have struggled outside Asia but he still would have been a superior replacement to him if we was given the opportunity that he deserved in the early 2010s.
 
Nasim ul ghani 101 vs england
Wasim bari 85 vs india

Highest scores by nightwatchmen by pakistani. Azhar on 40* here
 
Absolute pathetic batting display. Pakistan batting is really beyond a joke in the past years.
 
Please Anderson we want wicket of Azhar.....
Please Anderson save pakistani fans from his torture...
Anderson you will be my all time favorite if you will out him..

lol, hes probably already done enough
 
I fear Azhar Ali is going to produce another insignificant 50+ knock like he did in Pakistan's last innings of the series against Sri Lanka.

That will be enough for Misbah to justify his place for another year.
 
Yes mediocrity should be promoted for next 5 test series

so to prove your point you want Pak to be bowled for 50 runs. They will lose the match but atleast the likes of Rizwan getting good experience to bat overseas.
 
lol, hes probably already done enough

Not done enough...
Still one of the most Enemy of Pakistan cricket... i.e the Legendary king Azhar Ali is there... So we need him to get his wicket..before he could add some meaningless runs
 
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