Abdullah719
T20I Captain
- Joined
- Apr 16, 2013
- Runs
- 44,825
Target is 195.
Ramiz reckons it's a competitive total.
What do you think?
Ramiz reckons it's a competitive total.
What do you think?
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Who's ready for a match winning 52*(150)![]()
Imam finding the fielder and two leaves already. Get on with it.
At the moment Imam's SR > Fakhar's. Are you also going to be harsh with Fakhar regarding this as you are with Imam? Especially since Fakhar is the "senior" between them and his role is to give a quick positive start.
(i) Fakhar is at least showing intent.
(ii) They have different roles- Fakhar has the power game to make up for any dot balls. Imam doesn't- he is there to rotate the strike.
(iii) Fakhar is a known quantity. This series is a chance to test the fringe players and see if they can make the necessary improvements.
It is only been 5 overs and the guy is at 80+ SR. You are making it seem like as if every ball has to be a scoring one. In the last game Imam got to his 100 with a SR of around 90. Which is pretty damn good for Pakistani standard. Especially when in the past we would have Shehzad and Azhar opening at a SR of 40 in the initial overs.
There is valid criticism and then there is fi get pointing just to suit your narrative.
Just be upfront about your intentions and say you don't believe Imam deserves an ODI spot on merit and is only in the team because of inzi and that's why your looking for any shortcomings on his part to vilify him and prove your point.
Opening spot has always been an are of concern for is and a guy who scored a 100 while opening deserves some leeway. Irrespective of his doubtful selection.
It is only been 5 overs and the guy is at 80+ SR. You are making it seem like as if every ball has to be a scoring one. In the last game Imam got to his 100 with a SR of around 90. Which is pretty damn good for Pakistani standard. Especially when in the past we would have Shehzad and Azhar opening at a SR of 40 in the initial overs.
There is valid criticism and then there is fi get pointing just to suit your narrative.
Just be upfront about your intentions and say you don't believe Imam deserves an ODI spot on merit and is only in the team because of inzi and that's why your looking for any shortcomings on his part to vilify him and prove your point.
Opening spot has always been an are of concern for is and a guy who scored a 100 while opening deserves some leeway. Irrespective of his doubtful selection.
I hv come to the realisation that there's no point hammering sense into people who are here to push their agenda.
Lol you clearly know nothing about me. I was the one defending Inzi when Imam was selected. I have also repeatedly said Imam is an excellent test prospect.
In fact I even started a thread on him after one match saying he was much better than Ahmed Shehzad!
A quick search confirms this:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-up-for-some-humble-pie&p=9477629#post9477629
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-up-for-some-humble-pie&p=9505710#post9505710
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-up-for-some-humble-pie&p=9505725#post9505725
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...Haq-vs-Ahmed-Shehzad-Who-is-the-better-opener
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ed-for-the-right-format&p=9463893#post9463893
But equally I will criticise Imam just like I would any other player. If he is blocking and leaving against weak oppositions what is he going to do against stronger teams?
Anyway, think you owe me an apology.
people are harsh on Imam just because he is Inzi's nephew.
The guy since debut has 2 odi hundreds in 5 games and in his debut test got us over the line vs Ireland where we should have lost had he got out early.
I am not saying he is the next BC Lara but his performances do not warrant the harsh criticism he is subjected too.
Lol. OK my apologies for trying to second guess your intentions.
I had to second guess it since I think you are going overboard with your criticism keeping the quality of openers we have had in the past in mind.
If this was Imam's 20th ODI I would be on board with you but this only his 6th. In the past by now we would have at least lost one wicket and be behind the RRR despite the weak opposition and low target.
Correct, and I have made this point repeatedly. But equally that shouldn't mean he is above criticism. I treat him just like any other player.
people should realize that outside pressure may get you in the squad but final XI is all Mickey and captain case in point Hafeez who has been warming the benches. Imam was preferred over Fakhar and Sami Aslam in UK tests and is again getting the nod over Hafeez and Haris here which clearly shows Mickey rates him and I trust the coach more then armchair PP experts.
No I think you are just jumping on the bandwagon in regards to criticizing Imam. The guy just scored 128 at 95+ SR somewhat making up for his initial slow start in the last innings and here you are scrutinizing each and every ball of his.
While Fakhar who has the role of being our big hitter has the same SR as Imam after playing the same number of balls. Yet no words on him for struggling to fulfill his role.
Who in this thread has said Imam isn't a good player?
The point is there is always room for improvement.
The problem on PP is too often people blindly support or blindly hate a player irrespective of performance. Believe it or not, there is a middle ground...
Hopefully Fakhar can convert today.
Hasn't quite been at his best, but the runs are still coming.
He has shown better intent as the innings goes on but the dot balls are a concern. Making up for dot balls later on in your innings is not the modern way. You have to bat at a high s/r throughout your innings. In the first ODI, a large chunk of his innings was at 40 S/R. You happy with that? You think stronger teams will let you get away with that? Can there not be room for improvement? Or is a 22 years old who has played 5 ODIs perfect?
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Guys you still hate the 22 year old opener just bcz his uncle is a selector?
Damn, Imam came close to proving mak36's predictions of 52*(150) to be slightly off.
The whole reason why I was defending Imam wasn't because it is Imam, the person. But because he is a newbie who is showing better results than his predecessor. The merit of his selection is another topic for another thread. However I feel some people are quick to jumps the gun on him since they disagree with his selection.
In this match never once did Imam's SR went below 70 which could not be said about his predecessor irrespective of quality of the opposition. I want us to give the newbies who are atleast showing some potential a bit more leeway before we jump the gun and crucify them in less then 5 overs of the innigs.
Who in this thread has said that?
Damn, Imam came close to proving mak36's predictions of 52*(150) to be slightly off.
The whole reason why I was defending Imam wasn't because it is Imam, the person. But because he is a newbie who is showing better results than his predecessor. The merit of his selection is another topic for another thread. However I feel some people are quick to jumps the gun on him since they disagree with his selection.
In this match never once did Imam's SR went below 70 which could not be said about his predecessor irrespective of quality of the opposition. I want us to give the newbies who are atleast showing some potential a bit more leeway before we jump the gun and crucify them in less then 5 overs of the innigs.
We are looking too much into performances against minnows. Imam has faced much better attacks than these even in domestics.
Damn, Imam came close to proving mak36's predictions of 52*(150) to be slightly off.
The whole reason why I was defending Imam wasn't because it is Imam, the person. But because he is a newbie who is showing better results than his predecessor. The merit of his selection is another topic for another thread. However I feel some people are quick to jumps the gun on him since they disagree with his selection.
In this match never once did Imam's SR went below 70 which could not be said about his predecessor irrespective of quality of the opposition. I want us to give the newbies who are atleast showing some potential a bit more leeway before we jump the gun and crucify them in less then 5 overs of the innigs.
Whats his domestic LA strike rate then?
If Imam plays the world cup 2019, his stats will be much better the predologies like Umar Akmal (played 2011, 2015), Ahmed Shehzad (Played 2011,2015) and even Haris Sohail (Played 2015 that is also 1 down, couldnt score a century even against Ireland). I like Haris but a batsman who doesnt convert his time runs to win matches and 100s is useless in my eye.
And none of ahmed Shehzad m, Umar Akam can play against Ireland in Ireland on thos conditions under pressure in test as Imam did and finished the job unlike many rated highly here
FZ slowing down for ton.
The only batsman who I've seen not give a rat's behind about nervous 90s was Sehwag. Heck I think he even brought up his 300 against us with a six.
FZ slowing down for ton.
The only batsman who I've seen not give a rat's behind about nervous 90s was Sehwag. Heck I think he even brought up his 300 against us with a six.
Fakhar looks really nervous.He’s in some serious form so not sure what he’s worried about.He doesn’t really play for records,or hasn’t done so in the past.
Its ok we get it you like the kid... you don't have to keep harping about it.
You are jumping the gun and getting all giddy after his performances against mighty SL and Zim. Wait till he plays teams like Eng, Ind, SA and Aus. He had one opportunity against NZ and looked like a bunny.
Congrats, probably the best attack he's scored a hundred against thus far
Not even celebrating by taking off the helmet haha
If Fakhar continues like this for another 3-5 years he might go down as our best ever LOI batsman
Congrats, probably the best attack he's scored a hundred against thus far
Indians getting flashbacks)
Where did I make that prediction? Again, that is a blatant lie. [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]
Reality check for mediocre Fakhar
thats great - century is great and all, but Fakhar is capable of destroying even the best attacks
not need to over celebrate this