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South Africa (615 & 58/0) defeat Pakistan (194 & 478) by 10 wickets in the second Test to accomplish the series whitewash by 2-0

IAJ said:
AJ of course. He threw away his wicket after working so hard.
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I totally get your frustration but to be honest, I can't blame him here. He was looking for runs here and this is a shot which he has used to good effect in the past (I remember he used it against Lyon at SCG as well on his way to his test best of 80 something). Playing with tail, you have to look ways to get quick runs especially seeing your partner at the other end not being comfortable.

Blame lies with Salman for falling in that manner against Maharaj because AJ didn't look like getting out when he was playing normally with the batsman at the other end. His and Rizwan's dismissal in particular was terrible. Infact, Rizwan's pathetic shots in both innings have meant that we couldn't set a competitive target here.
 
Seen Sheen said:
To be honest, I can't blame him here. He was looking for runs and this a shot which he has used to good effect in the past (I remember he used it against Lyon at SCG as well on his way to his test best of 80 something).

Blame lies with Salman for falling in that manner against Maharaj because AJ didn't look like getting out when he was playing normally with the batsman at the other end. His and Rizwan's dismissal in particular was terrible. Infact, Rizwan's pathetic shots in both innings have meant that we couldn't set a competitive target here.
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I agree with you, Babar, Rizwan and Salman are to be blamed. AJ is a lower order batsmen and a 30 from him is very handy. I just said it because he could have drag the lead to 75+.
 
IAJ said:
I agree with you, Babar, Rizwan and Salman are to be blamed. AJ is a lower order batsmen and a 30 from him is very handy. I just said it because he could have drag the lead to 75+.
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Why are you not blaming Saud and Kamran who has been more useless than anyone in this flat road?
 
Soft dismissals through out the batting order.

Same old story again as always. I was so hopeful for a competitive series & even a chance of a surprise win but somethings just never change. While Salman and Jamal can be blamed for not applying themselves in the last session, it was already too late by then. Saud, Babar, KG, & Rizwan solely to blame here. The injury to Saim is also an unfortunate event but that is I guess unavoidable & also highlights that cricket needs a few rule changes.
 
How was it easier for Pakistani batsmen to get a start on this track only to get bogged down once they reach post 20?
 
Really like this Beddingham guy

Looks like a better one day option than DeZorzi
 
Devadwal said:
17-0 losing record only in australia since 1995.

Not a single test win or Drawn during this period.

Perfect consistency
:kp
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17-0 in Aus since 95
9-0 in Sa since 07

20-0 in Southern hemisphere since 2013

Not a single draw in there
 
shaz619 said:
Great batting by Rizwan today brother, what’s the in-depth analysis of his innings 🤡
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Played a loose shot to get out at wrong time, but remember being WK, he was 2nd highest scorer in 1st innings as well. For this PAK side, you'll never be able to devalue Riz's contribution - took 6 catches in only fielding innings so far and 87 runs, being WK of the team - that actually puts him as 2nd best contributor along with Babar in this Test.

Target other players - the day Rizwan retires, you'll realize what he was doing for the team. As I have been writing for last few years - PAK fans need to measure their expectations according to the ability of the team and judge players in line to what is available there. He is still the MVP of the side in combined three formats ..... not many Gilchrists are waiting on the bench.
 
Phainta.

16/0 (2)

Just end this misery of pakistan team .

They are very pathetic side who doens't deserved to play test cricket at all.

Proper minnows

:kp
 
followed said:
Lol besharam indian chachas were hiding since yesterday and now they have came back from their caves.
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I do not get the hate that they throw around and these are supposedly the parha likha crowd that even interact with pakistanis so shouldn't be that biased. Ajeeb anti pak needless behavior
 
I like this move of Bedingham opening. Wish INdia does these things when it can be done. It gives confidence to the batsman.
 
I was expecting bowling paawarhouse like Pakistan to defend 57 runs. But this is not seems to be the case.
 
followed said:
Lol besharam indian chachas were hiding since yesterday and now they have came back from their caves.
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Why should Indians hide?

They managed to win and draw a match in Aus which Pak hasn't managed in 30+ years. And this is after two series victories (plus draws in 03-04 and Perth 08).

Besharam are Pakistanis who have the aukaat to troll India while their overseas record is worse than Bangladesh (who actually drew in NZ a couple of years ago).

TWENTY consecutive LOSSES in southern hemisphere since 2013

EIGHTH consecutive WHITEWASH

India team will go through highs and lows as they rebuild. Lots of trolling happened when the Ganguly/Dhoni team got older (who had won series in Pak, Eng and drawn in Aus, SA at their peak plus had won a couple of WCs) but then the Kohli/Rohit team came in and dominated. In 3-4 years the next gen will come and go on another 7-8 year run.

Pak meanwhile will go through lows and lowers with their next one season wonder batsmen and pacers who will get injured a year in and come back a pale shadow. Rinse and repeat.
 
MMHS said:
Played a loose shot to get out at wrong time, but remember being WK, he was 2nd highest scorer in 1st innings as well. For this PAK side, you'll never be able to devalue Riz's contribution - took 6 catches in only fielding innings so far and 87 runs, being WK of the team - that actually puts him as 2nd best contributor along with Babar in this Test.

Target other players - the day Rizwan retires, you'll realize what he was doing for the team. As I have been writing for last few years - PAK fans need to measure their expectations according to the ability of the team and judge players in line to what is available there. He is still the MVP of the side in combined three formats ..... not many Gilchrists are waiting on the bench.
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Yes the day rizwan retires @Rana Will fully understand what he did to pakistan cricket. He agrees with you 100%.
 
Pakistan needs to do a lot of soul searching in terms of their building pace attack. It looks one-dimensional even with Mir Hamza. Other than he is a left armer his bowling is similar to other bowling.
 
followed said:
Lol besharam indian chachas were hiding since yesterday and now they have came back from their caves.
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Lol chuhay apni khuddon say bahar nikal aye hain after dhulai in Australia.

What they fail to understand is that most Pakistani fans know and admit Pakistan is a rubbish team and have been that for years and that fans will not break TVs etc. There are bigger issues that cricket country is facing, but everything will be sorted out with time, in sha Allah.
 
mominsaigol said:
Yes the day rizwan retires @Rana Will fully understand what he did to pakistan cricket. He agrees with you 100%.
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In a high scoring match like this a 40 has zero impact on the match. Saim didn't bat but his score and anyone who scored in that range has zero impact on the test result.

You need daddy hundreds or one going north of a double. Everything else is just useless stats.

A test run is a test run of course but there are runs that can't help you win so they are lower in value.
 
MMHS said:
Played a loose shot to get out at wrong time, but remember being WK, he was 2nd highest scorer in 1st innings as well. For this PAK side, you'll never be able to devalue Riz's contribution - took 6 catches in only fielding innings so far and 87 runs, being WK of the team - that actually puts him as 2nd best contributor along with Babar in this Test.

Target other players - the day Rizwan retires, you'll realize what he was doing for the team. As I have been writing for last few years - PAK fans need to measure their expectations according to the ability of the team and judge players in line to what is available there. He is still the MVP of the side in combined three formats ..... not many Gilchrists are waiting on the bench.
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Yeah, it's out of my understanding how some guys can go after a very goof wicket keeper whi avetages, 40 plus in test. Forget about current Pakistan, with those stats he walks in into any team in history unless a Gilchrist or Knott is there.
 
Just two hits away to end this misery.

Will be a good final between Australia and SA. Aussies are clear favourites, but SA bat quite deep.
 
This small little passage of play illustrates what a docile pitch this is. Credit to SA for bowling out opposition twice.
 
MMHS said:
Played a loose shot to get out at wrong time, but remember being WK, he was 2nd highest scorer in 1st innings as well. For this PAK side, you'll never be able to devalue Riz's contribution - took 6 catches in only fielding innings so far and 87 runs, being WK of the team - that actually puts him as 2nd best contributor along with Babar in this Test.

Target other players - the day Rizwan retires, you'll realize what he was doing for the team. As I have been writing for last few years - PAK fans need to measure their expectations according to the ability of the team and judge players in line to what is available there. He is still the MVP of the side in combined three formats ..... not many Gilchrists are waiting on the bench.
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Am not sure you follow the current affairs as closely and the scorecard analysis does’t really paint a vivid picture of the damage he is causing the team on & off the pitch, vast majority still support the fallacy of his performances. No spot should be secure in any team, just due to a specialist position, playing a loose shot and getting out is one thing, but insanity is doing the same thing again & again, getting out during key moments repeatedly shouldn’t be wiped under rug. I don’t buy this argument there is no one better, if there isn’t you groom them, what if Rizwan gets hit by a bus tomorrow god forbid ? Are we going to position his corpse behind the stumps ?
 
Watching SA bat, I understand why Shan scored 140 and Babar 80 odd.

They were stat padding on a pancake.
 
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jnaveen1980 said:
This small little passage of play illustrates what a docile pitch this is. Credit to SA for bowling out opposition twice.
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Actually they should have bowled out Pakistan yesterday already, so I will not give them that much credit.
 
Pakistan in it's entire 70 year history has won FOUR matches in Aus.

The Ind team in the last 3 tours has won FIVE.

There is no shame in the BGT loss. It was a youngish team with a few old guys with very less people in that late 20s-early 30s range. They did give a fight in some matches but too strong to overcome a good Aus team.

No worries, next time.

Pak keeps getting walloped every time - young team (2009, 2019) or experienced team (2000,2005,2016,2023)

Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen etc are 7+ years into their international career and at their peaks and they are still getting whitewashed like they were in 2019 after Misbah, Younis etc retired.

2019 losses are ok. Young team. What explains the whitewashes in Aus 23 and SA 24? These guys have been playing for a while.
 
You know how you lose by 10 wickets and Pakistani awaam is happy that we scored 450 in second innings.

Rizwan, Babar and Shan are probably congratulating themselves for batting well the second time around.

They are so shameful they dont realize they batted on a pancake with no pressure to save the game.
 
All over. South Africa win by 10 wickets.

South Africa now have a 7-match winning streak in Test format (1 against Windies, 2 against BD, 2 against SL, and 2 against Pakistan).
 
mango_bite77 said:
Still not humiliating then getting hammered at home from NZ which couldn't win a single game in SL
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Yes better than a team who had not a single test home more than three year's.

While india lost a series after more than 12 year. Lol

:kp
 
Dr_Bassim said:
You know how you lose by 10 wickets and Pakistani awaam is happy that we scored 450 in second innings.

Rizwan, Babar and Shan are probably congratulating themselves for batting well the second time around.

They are so shameful they dont realize they batted on a pancake with no pressure to save the game.
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KG, Shakeel, Agha, Rizwan and Aamir, all of them played brainless shots. SA would have been chasing 170+ if they would have slightly better game awesomeness
 
mango_bite77 said:
Still not humiliating then getting hammered at home from NZ which couldn't win a single game in SL
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You got hammered at home by Bang who couldn't win a single game in Ind as well as at home vs SA and SL.

Bangladesh this year have been whitewashed THRICE - by SL, Ind, NZ.

Guess who they whitewash at home? Pakistan. Lol
 
Congratulations SA for a very comprehensive series win!
 
Devadwal said:
Yes better than a team who had not a single test home more than three year's.

While india lost a series after more than 12 year. Lol

:kp
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India did not even draw series at home.

In the Dubai era MisYou team they drew a few - SA 10, SA 12, SL 14, NZ 14

Post MisYou "home losses" -

SL 17 0-2
SA 18 1-2
Aus 22 0-1
Eng 22 0-3
Bang 24 0-2

That's five home losses with three whitewashes
 
saimayubera said:
You got hammered at home by Bang who couldn't win a single game in Ind as well as at home vs SA and SL.

Bangladesh this year have been whitewashed THRICE - by SL, Ind, NZ.

Guess who they whitewash at home? Pakistan. Lol
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Take some rest after depressing sunday.
 
mango_bite77 said:
Pak 3-0 vs England

Billion dollar board

0-3 vs NZ. Humiliation at peak
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When did Pak win 3-0 vs Eng?

Are you thinking of the 2022 loss? :ROFLMAO:

Pak won 2-1 vs Eng.

So what, Ind won 4-1.

Against common opponents in the space of a year:

vs Aus:
Pak 0-3
Ind 1-3

vs Bang:
Pak 0-2
Ind 2-0

vs SA:
Pak 0-2
Ind 1-1

THREE whitewashes for Pak in the space of a year lol
 
When India was winning in tests? Trolling on no ICC trophies.

When India is winning ICC trophies? Trolling on tests.

India will keep winning ICC trophies/tests throughout time.

Guess which team keeps always losing? Pakistan.
 
Devadwal said:
Are bhai pakistan whitewash by England, Bangladesh ( LMAO) and lost the series against Australia, NZ at Home during this period.

:kp
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Despite all those turbulences, management changes, coach changes etc still they manage to whitewash England at home.

What did you I Pee L stars do ?

All out on 47 at home :dw
 
mominsaigol said:
Yes the day rizwan retires @Rana Will fully understand what he did to pakistan cricket. He agrees with you 100%.
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I see you have very big expectations from him about understanding cricket (no, I am not talking about Rizwan here) - wish, it was indeed a reality :(
 
MMHS said:
I see you have very big expectations from him about understanding cricket (no, I am not talking about Rizwan here) - wish, it was indeed a reality :(
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Then who are you talking about?

You guys support medicore cricketers and hype them beyond belief. You are no different from Indian posters lol.
 
Will there be any repercussions for this Pakistan's loss? Any major reshuffling? Ofcourse they won't drop Shan as captain after his 145.
 
mango_bite77 said:
Despite all those turbulences, management changes, coach changes etc still they manage to whitewash England at home.

What did you I Pee L stars do ?

All out on 47 at home :dw
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When did this hypothetical whitewash happen?

England won the first test scoring 800 odd lol.

Guess what Ind def Eng 4-1 earlier in the year too. And didn't have to use any fans as well hahahaha.

Great Pak got whitewashed by Bang who were whitewashed by SL, Ind, SA this year. In Rawalpindi too, home of the military to remind them of 1971.
 
mominsaigol said:
Then who are you talking about?

You guys support medicore cricketers and hype them beyond belief. You are no different from Indian posters lol.
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Understanding cricket means you claim Rizwan is an MVP that gets into the world XI for any side in T20s (or maybe all formats)
 
Marco Jansen Man of the series. This dude has come a long way. Was a net bowler for Kohli. Now he is one of the key member. That is tremendous progress. That is what you want to see in a player. Consistent progress unlike guys like Rahul who takes one step forward and two steps backward
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Marco Jansen Man of the series. This dude has come a long way. Was a net bowler for Kohli. Now he is one of the key member. That is tremendous progress. That is what you want to see in a player. Consistent progress unlike guys like Rahul who takes one step forward and two steps backward
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Top tier cricketer
 
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