Pakistan End Day 1 of the 2nd Test against Zimbabwe at 268/4

Since his comeback hes played 3 avg innings, one vs nzl he choked after his 100, one was at home vs SA and the 3rd one was vs this zimbabwe team.

Other then those 3 innings his hasnt crossed 50 once in the other 9 innings since his comeback.

Hasnt really done anything of note. 351 runs in 3 innings vs 109 in 9 innings.. minus the zim knock he has avged below 30...

This Zimbabwe team is basically a club level team.

He will keep doing that.He is not good and he never will be.
 
We find faults even in our performers. Obviously he is not going to score every inning he is not robot or as gifted as Tendulkar.

Im not finding faults, what im saying is if he is gonna play one good innings like shafique every series why not just play a youbg player who has been playing in domestics...
 
Shafique did the same thing and everyone hated him, fawad is literally having the same consistency and you guys are praising him..


Fact is this shouldve been a rebuilding phase with azhar as the sole senior player.. pakistan mamagement just wants to pat themselves on the back while making low iq moves..
 
Shafique did the same thing and everyone hated him, fawad is literally having the same consistency and you guys are praising him..


Fact is this shouldve been a rebuilding phase with azhar as the sole senior player.. pakistan mamagement just wants to pat themselves on the back while making low iq moves..

Fawad can play for another 5 years. Youngsters can wait to develop in domestic for that long. So the management made a good decision.
 
Lol
Fawad scores 100 against NZ in their own dens against their best bowlers, oh but he did not save the match as if he bats for other 8 batsmen.
He scores 100 against SA team with their best bowlers, oh but the pitch was dead.
As if all of centuries scored by other batsmen of world are always scored in bowling paradises or in winni g situations.
 
Lol
Fawad scores 100 against NZ in their own dens against their best bowlers, oh but he did not save the match as if he bats for other 8 batsmen.
He scores 100 against SA team with their best bowlers, oh but the pitch was dead.
As if all of centuries scored by other batsmen of world are always scored in bowling paradises or in winni g situations.

Hes playing one good innings pr series just like shafique be consistent with your hate...
 
Lol
Fawad scores 100 against NZ in their own dens against their best bowlers, oh but he did not save the match as if he bats for other 8 batsmen.
He scores 100 against SA team with their best bowlers, oh but the pitch was dead.
As if all of centuries scored by other batsmen of world are always scored in bowling paradises or in winni g situations.

The guy has a monstrous FC average of 57 and has scored a hundred in all of last 3 series he's played and people think he deserves to be dropped
 
Fawad can play for another 5 years. Youngsters can wait to develop in domestic for that long. So the management made a good decision.

Lol yeah so youngsters can end uo becoming another fawad... you guys are literal player fans... SMH this is a national team not your fantasy team.

Rebuilding phases need to happen other wise you become like oh wait our team pakistan.. inconsistent and avg for 20 years..
 
The guy has a monstrous FC average of 57 and has scored a hundred in all of last 3 series he's played and people think he deserves to be dropped

He shouldve never gotten picked.. especially vs this zimbabwe team...

Hr shouldve been picked 10 years ago.
 
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Im not finding faults, what im saying is if he is gonna play one good innings like shafique every series why not just play a youbg player who has been playing in domestics...

Because a youngster will fail to adjust to higher level of international cricket and his confidence will be destroyed as well as losing Pakistan test matches even against likes of Zimbabwe.
Case in point Haider Ali and Naseem Shah, they need to be developed in domestic and if they perform better than Fawad in domestic for atleast couple years then they can have a claim to his position. Fawad returns are nothing like Shafiq. Shafiq would score significantly once in 6 to 8 innings. Fawad atleast scored 1 in 3.
 
Because a youngster will fail to adjust to higher level of international cricket and his confidence will be destroyed as well as losing Pakistan test matches even against likes of Zimbabwe.
Case in point Haider Ali and Naseem Shah, they need to be developed in domestic and if they perform better than Fawad in domestic for atleast couple years then they can have a claim to his position. Fawad returns are nothing like Shafiq. Shafiq would score significantly once in 6 to 8 innings. Fawad atleast scored 1 in 3.

Both the players you mention i never said play them. I said send an u25 team with domestic experiance...
 
Abid has been much better compared to last game

He is not a very good batsman but every batsman need a very long run and given confidence to find their footing in international before they can fully express themself.
 
Both the players you mention i never said play them. I said send an u25 team with domestic experiance...

But there is no one better than Fawad otherwise they would be out scoring him in domestic year in year out. Why should we ay a lesser batsman, their chance will come when Fawad starts failing.
 
Lol yeah so youngsters can end uo becoming another fawad... you guys are literal player fans... SMH this is a national team not your fantasy team.

Rebuilding phases need to happen other wise you become like oh wait our team pakistan.. inconsistent and avg for 20 years..

In 5 years youngsters won't end up like Fawad. Fawad had to wait 11 years to get back into Test cricket. So five years are no where close. Right now we got no cricketer that can replace the current bunch. Majority of our batsmen are a unpolished bunch that have noticeable flaws. Waiting five years will only improve the youngsters as players since they will have the right number of domestic matches.
 
He shouldve never gotten picked.. especially vs this zimbabwe team...

Hr shouldve been picked 10 years ago.

Why do u think so? Most of his hundreds have come in difficult situations. Even on his debut in 2009 Pak were 170 runs behind after 1st innings when he scored a brilliant 169. Against NZ it was a rearguard action on last day rarely seen from Pak side. And those who think Karachi was a very easy pitch to bat on should enhance their knowledge of cricket.
 
In 5 years youngsters won't end up like Fawad. Fawad had to wait 11 years to get back into Test cricket. So five years are no where close. Right now we got no cricketer that can replace the current bunch. Majority of our batsmen are a unpolished bunch that have noticeable flaws. Waiting five years will only improve the youngsters as players since they will have the right number of domestic matches.

Out of a pop of 220 million ur saying we only got fawad. But some how out of a pop of 2 mill nzl has made great team.

Stop, its clear case of who you know in paksiatan not about how you play.. there are def players out there who dont get picked because they dont know anyone..
 
Out of a pop of 220 million ur saying we only got fawad. But some how out of a pop of 2 mill nzl has made great team.

Stop, its clear case of who you know in paksiatan not about how you play.. there are def players out there who dont get picked because they dont know anyone..

If you know a batsmen that can score 100s as consistent as Fawad has feel free to name them. Maybe it will help our selectors find that right batsmen.
 
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Sorry. Don't know if this deserves a seperate thread on it's own
 
abid alis performances will haunt us for a long time but again his partner imran butt is even worse batsman. Pakistan have no openers.
 
Sad to see Roy Kaia being stretchered off the field after a being hit by shot played by Abid Ali


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Pakistan should aim 280 for the end of the day!

Abid should play in ODI mode once/if he hits the 100 Insha'Allah.
 
If you know a batsmen that can score 100s as consistent as Fawad has feel free to name them. Maybe it will help our selectors find that right batsmen.

Kamran ghulam avgd 60, saad nasim avg 57, saud shakeel avg 57, agha salman 58, usman salahuddin 47 etc.. any of these players shouldve been picked for this tour. Saud shakeel and kamran ghulam shouldve been a must..
 
Shafique did the same thing and everyone hated him, fawad is literally having the same consistency and you guys are praising him..


Fact is this shouldve been a rebuilding phase with azhar as the sole senior player.. pakistan mamagement just wants to pat themselves on the back while making low iq moves..

There is no comparison between Shafiq and Fawad.

Shafiq played 21 Tests post-MisYou retirement and scored a whopping 2 hundreds.

Fawad has played 7 Tests post-comeback and has already scored 3 hundreds.

That's right it only took him, past his peak at age 35, a third of the matches to overhaul pretty technique Shafiq's tally of centuries !
 
This is plain wastage of time..I guess Pakistan seniors Vs Pakistan A would be more competitive and interesting ..
 
There is no comparison between Shafiq and Fawad.

Shafiq played 21 Tests post-MisYou retirement and scored a whopping 2 hundreds.

Fawad has played 7 Tests post-comeback and has already scored 3 hundreds.

That's right it only took him, past his peak at age 35, a third of the matches to overhaul pretty technique Shafiq's tally of centuries !

Im not on asads side.. pointing out the fact that he was doing the same. We already knew asad was mentally weak, while fawad is mentally strong.
 
Im not on asads side.. pointing out the fact that he was doing the same. We already knew asad was mentally weak, while fawad is mentally strong.

How exactly was he doing the same when the post you replied to literally explains how he was not in fact doing the same?
 
I would have really loved to see some youngsters in this test match or even in the series. Some competitive cricket would have also motivated Zimbabwe.

It would pain me even more if likes of Saud Shakeel and Kamran Ghulam are then thrown into the XI against England in England or similar.
 
Fawad averaged 10 in England and mid 30s post comeback excluding Zimbabwe series.

Such middling returns by a 35 year old with 12k FC runs @ 56 will yield praise and adulation in a mediocre cricket nation like Pakistan only.
 
Fawad averaged 10 in England and mid 30s post comeback excluding Zimbabwe series.

Such middling returns by a 35 year old with 12k FC runs @ 56 will yield praise and adulation in a mediocre cricket nation like Pakistan only.

Why don’t you man up and respond to what I said rather than running away.
 
Fawad averaged 10 in England and mid 30s post comeback excluding Zimbabwe series.

Such middling returns by a 35 year old with 12k FC runs @ 56 will yield praise and adulation in a mediocre cricket nation like Pakistan only.

Almost same average as Kholi in England.... 😁
 
Well played Azhar Ali, a very good century.
 
15/1 in 12 overs against Zimbabwe.

A tail-ender batting at 7.

A 36 year old fast bowler, who is probably 40+ in reality, is making his Test debut.

Welcome to Pakistan cricket in 2021. :91:

It could be worse, we could have blood on our hands by diverting medical supplies for a T20 tournament.
 
Fawad averaged 10 in England and mid 30s post comeback excluding Zimbabwe series.

Such middling returns by a 35 year old with 12k FC runs @ 56 will yield praise and adulation in a mediocre cricket nation like Pakistan only.

I know you love trolling but so that other naive posters are negatively influenced by you like to point out England series was a return after 11 years in an alien and overcast conditions mainly, so understandably he was nervous in the first inning a d then he fought hard in the next inning even if he did not score much. He only had opportunity to bat thrice. So very small same in a debut series. And why would you exclude any country from his overall average,and you need to include his scores pre return too. He can only score runs against the teams he plays and he has scored significantly against NZ, SA and Zimbabwe thus far.
Only a fool would think he has not made big contributions since his return.
 
Wow terrific stuff from Pakistan. Now Abid, Azhar and Misbah will continue to stay in position for another year and people will forget about our recent humiliation in New Zealand.
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I know you love trolling but so that other naive posters are negatively influenced by you like to point out England series was a return after 11 years in an alien and overcast conditions mainly, so understandably he was nervous in the first inning a d then he fought hard in the next inning even if he did not score much. He only had opportunity to bat thrice. So very small same in a debut series. And why would you exclude any country from his overall average,and you need to include his scores pre return too. He can only score runs against the teams he plays and he has scored significantly against NZ, SA and Zimbabwe thus far.
Only a fool would think he has not made big contributions since his return.

Summed it up perfectly, couldn’t have said it better myself.
 
Abid Ali brilliant logic : criticized on PP for celebrating against zim by removing my helmet, let me put a cap on just before i reach my century to avoid further flak :))
 
What is Abid Ali doing!? Making sure he gets to his hundred - to hell with the scoring rate
 
What is Abid Ali doing!? Making sure he gets to his hundred - to hell with the scoring rate

and then an ugly attempt at a sweep once he passes his 100 to reinforce the fact he has no technique whats so ever, batting is meant to get easier.
 
This test should be going beyond day 3. Pak should ideally bat tmw as well and then try to ball out Zimbabwe twice in the remaining days.
 
Well deserved wicket for Blessing. Good knock from Azhar comes to an end.
 
In case someone gets out now. Babar Azam shouldn't come out for batting.

He's terrible in last few overs of the day and early morning next day.
 
Great innings by Azhar, Babar should just come on now. No need for a night watchman
 
Night watchman should have been sent. I can sense Babar getting out today or early morning tomorrow.
 
Should just play out the remaining overs for the day. No taking risks s
 
Babar walking out late in the day after sitting with his pads on for 80 overs. I smell danger...
 
Just about every poster here saw that coming. Yet no one in the management did.
 
Shocking shot by Babar for the the second time running and this bowler has got him out quite a few times.
 
Babar really needs to spend some time with Yousuf before the WI test tour as that is not going to be an easy tour. Babar still needs to achieve his optimal level at test cricket and needs to put some work into it.
 
the amount of pressure babar has looked to be under against a minnow side is concerning.
 
There is a reason top teams like India, Australia and England don't tour Zimbabwe. Pakistan's tours to Zimbabwe is damaging to our cricket . Aging and poorly performing players and players with poor technique , who have been a failure against better teams should have been replaced by fresh blood, but they come to Zimbabwe and score centuries and prolong their career for years , only to repeat the cycle.

I'm sure players like Azhar, Abid, Butt and coach would been kicked out by now .

If we have to play Zimbabwe, we should send with most of the young players , who would make the A team .
No sense in sending aging veterans to Zimbabwe.
 
Babar really needs to spend some time with Yousuf before the WI test tour as that is not going to be an easy tour. Babar still needs to achieve his optimal level at test cricket and needs to put some work into it.

He needs to be patient first and foremost to eager to get going after the bowling. Doesn’t seem like a person who likes to grind though periods. Additionally looks content with a middling score and doesn’t want to push himself.
 
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