Pakistan faces water crisis as India builds dams on shared rivers

[rpant_gabba]

Leaders have to meet and get this sorted out. Common people from both nations who have no stake in the war get effected. The farmers on both sides are the pawns and casualties for no fault of theirs. There is plenty of water ofor both countries assuming they channel the qater properly build dams correctly etc. The war in kashmir shoukd not cause a humanitarian water crisis nor should leaders play river games. Improve technology infrastructure etc- plenty of water available which is being wasted due to inefficiencies

I think it might be worth your time to read more about the "dispute"

 

[deltexas]

I think it might be worth your time to read more about the "dispute"

Yeah i know about the dispute!! Because there is none . Ind hasn't broken any rules. I was just saying a lot of water is wasted currently and both countries should up their infrastructure. .But if pak doesn't want to do it or be collaboratiive or just be gung ho- then it doesnt help ayone and even pak own citizens.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Yeah i know about the dispute!! Because there is none . Ind hasn't broken any rules. I was just saying a lot of water is wasted currently and both countries should up their infrastructure. .But if pak doesn't want to do it or be collaboratiive or just be gung ho- then it doesnt help ayone and even pak own citizens.

When has Pak ever been collaborative? as in a win win with India, in a bilateral sense?

 

[Hikaru]

Title should be " Pakistan faces water crisis as it never built the dams it should have".

 

[rpant_gabba]

Only India's share of water i.e. the western rivers - Ravi, Beas & Sutlej. Earlier India used to use the waters only for hydro-electricity generation and divert some of them for irrigation and letting some flow through. Now we have ensure that hardly a drop of that water flows through to Pakistan - they are entirely diverted for irrigation. Though I suppose this is not healthy for Indus river system and deprived Pakistani farmers of water they used to traditionally get, Pakistan has not raised an objection since this is strictly in accordance with the agreement.

The contention is with the western rivers - Indus, Chenab and Jhelum whose waters belong to Pakistan. The dams India has built on them so far only use the water for electricity generation and retain nothing for irrigation. This is allowed as per the Treaty. The main issue is that India has built some higher than typical which could allow it to actually hold back the water if we chose to. Let's be clear - India is not doing that now and Pakistan has not claimed India is doing it. It's contention is with the design of the dams and the way they alter the flow of the rivers.

Actually non-consumptive local use is allowed up to 7%.

If india can plant water intensive cops such as rice to fully utilize the 7% it is allocated on the western rivers.


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India releases water into Chenab River without information​

India has released water into the Chenab River without prior notification, prompting a significant flood alert.

The Flood Warning Center has recorded a flow of 180,000 cusecs at the Marala Barrage, with projections indicating that this could rise to 250,000 cusecs within the next 24 hours.

The unexpected release has led to a medium-level flood condition at Marala Barrage, raising concerns about potential high-level flooding downstream.

The high-level flood warning has been extended from Marala to Qadirabad Barrages, with particular concern for katcha areas in Hafizabad, Gujranwala, and Sialkot, where there is a risk of submergence in low-lying regions.

The Indus Waters Commission had reported similar situations last year, with India releasing 200,000 cusecs of water. However, there has been no response from New Delhi regarding recent communications from Pakistani Commissioner Syed Mehr Ali Shah.

Authorities are closely monitoring the situation and are prepared for emergency measures to address potential flooding impacts in the affected regions.

India releases water into Chenab River without information

India's unnotified release of water into the Chenab River has led to a flood alert, with current flows at Marala Barrage at 180,000 cusecs and expected to rise to 250,000 cusecs. The high-level flood warning extends from Marala to Qadirabad Barrages, impacting katcha areas in Hafizabad...

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Good news for agri, power sectors: Tarbela reaches full capacity​

In a significant development for Pakistan’s water and power sectors, Tarbela Dam has been filled to its maximum capacity, with water levels reaching 1,550 feet.

This marks the second consecutive year that the dam has been fully filled, storing over 5.8 million acre-feet (MAF) of water.

The Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) announced that with the dam now at full capacity, there is no room for additional water storage. As a result, spillway gates have been opened to manage the overflow.

WAPDA is expected to make an official announcement regarding the dam's status later today.

The completion of Tarbela Dam for the second year in a row is being hailed as a major success, particularly for the agricultural and energy sectors. The stored water will be used for irrigation purposes across the country, ensuring that agricultural activities remain uninterrupted during the upcoming seasons.

Additionally, the dam will continue to generate hydroelectric power, contributing to the stability of the national grid.

On the other hand, over the past 10 years, Pakistan’s oil and gas production has witnessed a significant decline instead of the anticipated growth, a situation attributed to political instability, security concerns, and a persistent lack of investment in exploration and development.

Due to the reasons mentioned above, large reserves have not been discovered over the last decade.

According to data provided by the Pakistan Petroleum Information Service (PPIS), the country’s crude oil production has fallen drastically since 2015. Back then, the daily production stood at 94,500 barrels. However, by 2024, it had decreased to just 70,500 barrels per day. This shows a staggering decline in petrol production of 24,000 barrels per day over the last decade.

Good news for agriculture, power sectors: Tarbela reaches full capacity

Tarbela Dam has reached full capacity for the second consecutive year, storing over 5.8 million acre-feet of water. WAPDA confirmed the dam's 1,550-foot water level, opening spillway gates to manage overflow. This development supports Pakistan's agriculture and energy sectors.

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[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan must learn the importance of water. If you cannot build the necessary infrastructure to save water then Bharat has the responsibility to teach Pakistan a lesson by being strict and harsh. Not because we are like that but because we have to do this act so Pakistan can learn.

 

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People’s Party decides to oppose likely amends in IRSA Act

Pakistan People’s Party has decided to reject likely amendments in the Indus River System Authority (IRSA) law from the federal government.

“The PPP will oppose any change in the IRSA Act”, the Sindh government sources said.

Nisar Ahmed Khuhro will present an adjournment motion in Sindh Assembly with regard to the amendment in IRSA Act.

It has been decided that all PPP members in Sindh Assembly will oppose any amendment in the Indus River System Authority Act.

Federal government intends to abolish the 1991 water accord and keep all powers with it, sources observed.

Indus River System Authority was established in 1992 through an Act of Parliament for regulating and monitoring of the distribution of water resources of Indus river system among the four provinces in accordance with the Water Apportionment Accord 1991.

It is to be mentioned here that IRSA Act amendments were proposed during the previous caretaker government and the ordinance was rejected by the President over divergent views on the matter.

People's Party decides to oppose likely amends in IRSA Act

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Sindh and Balochistan jointly reject amendment in IRSA Act

Balochistan and Sindh provinces have jointly rejected proposed amends in the Indus River System Authority (IRSA) Act.

Irrigation ministers of Balochistan and Sindh, Mir Sadiq Umrani and Jam Khan Shoro in a joint press conference here said,”We jointly reject the amendment in the IRSA Act”.

“Amendments in the IRSA Act violation of the constitution and against the provincial autonomy,” Sindh’s irrigation minister Jam Khan Shoro said.

He said Sindh Assembly yesterday rejected the IRSA amends in a unanimously passed resolution.

“Under the current law Chairman IRSA becomes by rotation but under the proposed amendment the prime minister will appoint the chairman”. “The amendment in the law allows the PM to nominate the chairman with proposed amends in law the prime minister could nominate or remove a member of the authority,” Sindh’s minister said.

He said the water has been a provincial subject, proposed amendments in law are a blow to the provincial autonomy.

Shoro said that after Sindh’s political parties today Balochistan has also rejected the IRSA amendments.

The Sindh Assembly in a rare show of unity rejected the proposed amendment to the Indus River System Authority Act, resolving to never give up the province’s right on water guaranteed in the Water Accord of 1991.

The house unanimously adopted a resolution against the proposed amendment to the Irsa Act-1992, with members terming the proposal against the Constitution and democratic spirit of the federation.

The resolution, tabled by Pakistan People’s Party member Nisar Ahmed Khuhro, demanded the federal government to implement the water accord in true letter and spirit and not change or amend the IRSA law.

Sindh and Balochistan jointly reject amendment in IRSA Act

QUETTA: Balochistan and Sindh provinces have jointly rejected proposed amends in the Indus River System Authority (IRSA) Act. Irrigation ministers of

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[Bhaijaan]

Baloch & Afghan brothers, you must fight to protect your share of the water. It’s your right and your Hindu brothers sitting in Bharat will always support you no matter what.

 

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'Taking Undue Advantage': India Sends Notice To Pakistan, Demands Review Of Indus Water Treaty

India has sent a notice to Pakistan, demanding review of the 1960 Indus water treaty. The formal notice was sent on August 30. The notice mentioned that a one-sided water treaty has been there since its inception in 1960 and that various articles of the treaty need real assessment.

India also mentioned the continuous terrorist activities from Pakistan’s side and said Pakistan was taking undue advantage of Indian generosity, and that a relook was required.

Under Article XII (3) of the Treaty, its provisions may from time to time be modified by a duly ratified Treaty concluded for that purpose between the two Governments.

In January last year, India had sent a similar notice for the modification of the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) after the northwestern neighbour “unilaterally” tried to change the process of resolving disputes between the two sides.

According to sources, the Indian notification highlights fundamental and unforeseen changes in circumstances that require a reassessment of obligations under various Articles of the Treaty. Three specific concerns have been emphasised to drive home the point that the 1960 understanding is no longer tenable.

Sources said that the first was significantly altered population demographics, coupled with connected agricultural and other uses of the waters. The second was the need to accelerate the development of clean energy to meet India's emission targets.

The third underlines the impact of persistent cross-border terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir which has impeded the smooth operations of the Treaty and undermined full utilization of India's rights.

These developments come in the wake of a prolonged controversy on the handling of the Ratle and Kishenganga hydel projects. Indian officials believe that Pakistan has been compulsively obstructive about all projects on the Indian side and has taken undue advantage of India's generosity under the Indus Waters Treaty.

'Taking Undue Advantage': India Sends Notice To Pakistan, Demands Review Of Indus Water Treaty

Under Article XII (3) of the Treaty, its provisions may from time to time be modified by a duly ratified Treaty concluded for that purpose between the two Governments., India News News - Times Now

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CDWP approval of Punjab’s water project irks Sindh

The Sindh government has expressed serious concerns over the approval of a new irrigation project worth over Rs200 billion in Punjab.

The two provinces have repeatedly come face-to-face over water sharing, with Sindh being a lower riparian province accusing Punjab of not allowing adequate water flow downstream.

Now, the row over is set to escalate as the Central Development Working Party (CDWP) has approved an entirely new irrigation system for Punjab.

The province plans to build a 176km-long Cholistan canal and a 120km-long Marot canal in the Cholistan area.

The Sindh government has already submitted a complaint over this project to the Council of Common Interests (CCI), on which a decision is still awaited.

In a summary sent to the CCI in July, the Sindh government protested against the Water Availability Certificate (WAC) issued to the project by the water regulator, Indus River System Authority in January.

It questioned before CCI the two new canals — Jalalpur canal being built on the right side of Rasul Barrage and Cholistan on its left side — and claimed the water regulator had “overstepped its authority” by issuing the certificate.

Sindh Irrigation Minister Jam Khan Shoro has questioned CDWP’s approval as the Executive Committee of the National Economic Council — which approves major developmental projects in provinces — linked the move with CCI’s decision on Sindh’s complainant.

He was referring to Ecnec’s observation on Feb 7, where it stated that the summary submitted by the planning ministry for the “Development of National Irrigation Network for Green Pakistan Initiative” will be “subject to approval by CCI”.

He added that as per the working paper of Saturday’s CDWP meeting, the project, costing Rs211.34bn, will be completed by July 2030.

According to the cost breakdown in the working paper seen by Dawn, Rs 174bn will be spent on construction: Rs76.57bn for the Cholistan Canal, Rs47.6bn for Marot Canal, Rs39.19bn for link canals, Rs 800m for mechanical work and Rs10bn to account for escalation in construction cost.

The remaining amount will be spent on other aspects like afforestation, land acquisition, project management, etc.

According to Mr Shoro, a pre-CDWP meeting held on Sept 2 was told that the capacity of three link canals — Rasul-Qadirabad, Qadirabad-Balloki and Balloki-Sulemanki — would be enhanced to 25,000, 25,000 cusecs and 28,700 cusecs, respectively, to draw water for this project.

“We don’t know the existing capacity of these canals,” he remarked.

The minutes of the Sept 2 meeting said the Cholistan canal was originally conceived to be a non-perennial canal, which doesn’t flow throughout the year.

However, given the needs of this region and the possibility of flow adjustments among various canals in Punjab, the minutes stated, the canal is now planned to be executed as a perennial canal.

In periods where there is no flood, the water for the canal would be diverted from other water bodies and through “departmental adjustments”. Mr Shoro said the term departmental adjustments had not been explained to date.

While referring to the figures — quoted by Punjab — of water flow downstream Kotri, he said the difference between 17.29MAF in the pre-climate change era — in August from 1976 to 1998 — and 6.921MAF — in August from 1999 and 2023 — offers a different picture of Kotri downstream flows pattern.

Punjab has defended the water availability certificate (issued by Irsa in Jan 2024) of 0.449MAF out of flood share in favour of “smaller Cholistan” has been granted from the province’s flood share under para-4 of the Water Apportionment Act 1991.

In its submission to the planning ministry, Punjab claimed that the storage capacity of Bhasha and Mohmand dams would enable it to receive increased flows, which would “enhance existing irrigation systems and ensure sufficient water supply for new projects”.

However, the planning ministry, in its document, stated that the Punjab government has not provided data for water availability from the two reservoirs.

According to Mr Shoro, the document also said the panel of experts appointed by the Centre put the environmental flow of the river (EFR) below Kotri at 8.6 MAF. The data of average flows from 1976 to 2022 create a “mirage” as many years have witnessed meagre EFR and the number of “no flow days” have increased, Mr Shoro said, while quoting the document.

CDWP approval of Punjab’s water project irks Sindh

Planning body okays proposal worth Rs211bn; Shoro says CCI yet to decide on Sindh’s complaint over the plan.

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Supreme Court seeks report on Nai Gaj Dam delay​

The Supreme Court's constitutional bench has sought a report from the federal government on the delay and costs associated with the Nai Gaj Dam project in Badin.

A six-member bench, headed by Justice Aminuddin Khan, heard the case. Justice Jamal Khan Mandokhail questioned why the dam project remains incomplete.

The construction consortium’s lawyer stated that allocated funds had not been released. Justice Mandokhail criticised the government, saying its inaction burdens the courts. The Additional Advocate General noted that timely funding could ensure project completion.

Justice Hassan Azhar Rizvi pointed out that the project was supposed to finish in two years, but its cost surged from Rs30 billion to Rs100 billion. The lawyer further revealed that the plan is being revised for the third time, citing delays due to floods.

Justice Mandokhail stressed the need for agreement adherence and requested a final timeline and budget after consultations.

The hearing was adjourned for six weeks.

Supreme Court seeks report on Nai Gaj Dam delay

A six-member bench, headed by Justice Aminuddin Khan, heard the case.

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Inland Waterways To See Rs 50,000-Crore Investment In 5 Years​

The Inland Waterways Development Council (IWDC), the apex body for policy deliberation on inland waterways network in the country, on Friday, announced investments of more than Rs 50,000 crore over the next five years.

The announcements to boost infrastructure along national waterways (NWs) were made at the second meeting of IWDC, organised by the Inland Waterways Authority of India (IWAI), at Kaziranga, a statement said. They include a series of new initiatives across 21 Inland Waterways, worth more than Rs 1,400 crore.

Presided over by Union Minister of Ports, Shipping and Waterways Sarbananda Sonowal, the meeting mooted a major policy initiative in the form of the Riverine Community Development Scheme to improve the socio-economic well-being of coastal communities by developing infrastructure, promotion of trade and tourism, providing skill enrichment training and upgrading traditional knowledge of river of the communities.

Speaking on the occasion, Mr Sonowal said, "We are attempting to rejuvenate the support system of inland waterways so that we decongest railways and roadways, and at the same time, provide a viable, economic, sustainable and efficient mode of transportation for both passengers and cargo operators. At IWDC, we levelled up solutions to tide over challenges to unlock the opportunities for economic development. In this regard, we have aimed at launching 1,000 Green vessels," he said.

Highlighting the focus of IWDC on employment generation and skill training, the Union minister said, "Major projects of upgrade in Inland Waterways Transport (IWT) have been conceived at the meeting. The government is planning to develop shipbuilding and ship repair facilities across all the NWs. This will reduce logistics costs, boost the ancillary industries, and encourage inclusion of riparian communities through employment opportunities." Highlighting the growth of inland waterways in the country, Sonowal said that from April to November 2024, NWs have recorded a growth of almost 7 per cent as compared to last year.

Significant growth has been made in the last one decade in river cruise tourism and river cruise vessels have increased from three in 2013-14 to 25 in 2023-24, he added.

"Through strategic regional projects and agreements with neighbouring countries such as Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar and others, we are facilitating regional trade and seamless transport connectivity in South Asia," he maintained.

In a boost to IWT in Andhra Pradesh, the Union minister announced the setting up of six floating steel jetties on river Godavari (NW 4) at Gandipochamma Temple, Pochavaram, Perantapalli Village.

A feasibility study on river Penna (NW 79) was also announced along with the DPR of NW 4 to get additional inputs for development, he said.

For Assam, he announced the setting up of a Regional Centre of Excellence (RcoE) in Dibrugarh, which will incubate an ecosystem to train and develop manpower for the IWT sector.

He also announced the design, construction, supply, testing and commissioning of 12 vessels while one survey vessel for river Barak (NW16), among other initiatives for the state.

Mr Sonowal announced ten community jetties on river Mandovi (NW 68), river Cumberjua (NW27) and river Zuari (NW111), and three additional jetties on river Sal (NW88) and river Chapora (NW25) for Goa.

"Proposals for fairway maintenance in NW 68, NW 27 and NW71 have been approved. VTMS are also to be set up on all NWs of Goa," he added.

Mr Sonowal also launched two Quick Pontoon Opening Mechanism (QPOM), which will be deployed in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar.

He announced the setting up of two jetties on river Yamuna (NW110) in Delhi and seven jetties on river Jhelum (NW49) for cruise tourism and urban transportation in Jammu and Kashmir.

Mr Sonowal also announced the operationalisation of river Chenab (NW 26) and river Ravi (NW84) for tourism.

In Ladakh, two jetties and one green vessel are being set up on river Indus (NW46), he said.

"These have been made possible as a result of increase in investments in national waterways since 2014. Legislative reforms such as the enactment of National Waterways Act 2016 and Inland Vessels Act 2021 have streamlined the safe and smooth movement of the vessels across the country," Sonowal maintained.

The meeting was attended by Assam CM Himanta Biswa Sarma, MoS for Ports, Shipping and Waterways Shantanu Thakur, the Ports Minister of Goa and the Transport ministers of Assam, Manipur, Jammu and Kashmir, Mizoram and Arunachal Pradesh, among others.

Inland Waterways To See Rs 50,000-Crore Investment In 5 Years

The Inland Waterways Development Council (IWDC), the apex body for policy deliberation on inland waterways network in the country, on Friday, announced investments of more than Rs 50,000 crore over the next five years.

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Groundwater depletion in Pakistan puts millions at risk of water scarcity​

Groundwater depletion is a growing environmental crisis in Pakistan, impacting millions across both rural and urban areas. Groundwater is a crucial resource for drinking, agriculture, and industry, but its rapid depletion is putting significant pressure on the country’s future water security.

Pakistan is heavily dependent on groundwater, particularly for agriculture, where about 70% of the country’s water resources are used for irrigation. In rural areas, farmers rely on tube wells to extract water, while in urban centres like Karachi, people depend on underground sources due to limited surface water availability.

Over-extraction of groundwater is the primary cause of the depletion crisis. As the population grows and agricultural and industrial demands increase, groundwater reserves are being used faster than they can naturally recharge.

In regions like Punjab, the water table is dropping at alarming rates, requiring farmers to drill deeper wells, which in turn raises costs and reduces agricultural productivity. In cities like Karachi, the situation is even direr, with many residents relying on private water tankers as the water table continues to fall, making it difficult to access clean, safe water.

Industrial use also contributes to the crisis. Textile factories and other industries extract large amounts of groundwater, further depleting already stressed aquifers. Combined with inefficient agricultural practices, such as flood irrigation, which wastes vast amounts of water, the demand on groundwater is unsustainable.

Additionally, climate change has worsened the situation, as more erratic rainfall and droughts make it harder to rely on surface water sources, driving further dependence on groundwater.

The consequences of groundwater depletion are significant. In rural areas, wells are drying up, and the remaining water is often contaminated with pollutants, making it unsafe for consumption. In urban areas, people are forced to pay high prices for water delivered by private tankers. This has a direct impact on both public health and livelihoods, especially for farmers who face higher costs due to deeper wells and decreasing crop yields.

To address this crisis, several actions are needed.

First, there must be better regulation of groundwater extraction. The government should implement measures such as water meters to track usage, set limits on extraction, and enforce penalties for overuse. Second, more efficient irrigation methods, such as drip irrigation, should be promoted to reduce water wastage in agriculture. Rainwater harvesting and restoration of traditional water storage systems can also reduce dependence on groundwater.

Investing in alternative water sources like desalination and wastewater treatment is another important step. Desalination plants can help provide fresh water for coastal areas, while treated wastewater can be reused for industrial and agricultural purposes.

Public awareness campaigns are crucial in educating communities about the importance of water conservation and promoting sustainable water use practices.

Ultimately, the groundwater depletion crisis in Pakistan requires immediate action from all sectors of society, including the government, industries, farmers, and local communities. By regulating extraction, promoting water efficiency, and exploring alternative water sources, Pakistan can work towards a more sustainable future.

The time to act is now to protect one of the country’s most valuable resources and secure water security for future generations.

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Pakistan’s groundwater crisis worsens as over-extraction depletes reserves, threatening agriculture, industry, and livelihoods

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WASA declares drought emergency in Rawalpindi amid water crisis​

The Water and Sanitation Agency (WASA) in Rawalpindi has declared a drought emergency in the city due to the ongoing drought conditions.

If it does not rain in February and March, the water crisis would worsen, according to Managing Director Muhammad Saleem Ashraf.

The Pakistan Meteorological Department has also forecasted low rainfall.

The WASA managing director stated that the continuous increase in population and commercial activities was “depleting water reserves,” making it difficult to distribute available water amid the drought.

He added that to encourage the public to use water sparingly, an awareness campaign has been launched.

He further explained that the drought has affected reservoirs and underground water supplies, with a significant decrease in both water demand and supply. “The daily water demand in the city is 68 million gallons while only 51 million gallons are available, sourced from Rawal Dam, Khanpur Dam, and tube wells.”

The groundwater level has dropped to 700 feet, Ashraf said and added that strict action would be taken against “unnecessary water use.” So far, two citizens have been fined for water wastage.

He appealed to citizens to reduce their water consumption and cooperate fully with WASA. Ashraf added that water supply would remain suspended until February 22 because of maintenance work at Khanpur Dam.

WASA declares drought emergency in Rawalpindi amid water crisis

Pakistan Meteorological Department has also forecasted low rainfall

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Wheat crop at risk as dams nearly dry

With the Tarbela and Mangla dams rapidly approaching their dead levels, the Indus River System Authority (Irsa) on Friday warned Punjab and Sindh — the two major bread baskets — to brace for up to 35 per cent water shortages in the last leg of the current crop season.

In a letter to irrigation secretaries, the water regulator told the four provinces that both reservoirs were close to their dead levels.

“There is the likelihood that provinces of Punjab and Sindh may face a shortfall of 30-35pc while operating the reservoirs on run-of-the-river mode at or around dead levels,” wrote Irsa’s Director of Regulation Khalid Idrees Rana.

According to Irsa’s latest data, Tarbela Dam had only 73,000 acre-feet of water storage, with its level recorded at 1,409 feet, just nine feet above its dead level of 1,400 feet.

The dam, which has a maximum storage level of 1,550 feet, was receiving 17,000 cusecs of inflow against an outflow of 20,000 cusecs on Friday.

Mangla Dam had a live storage of 235,000 acre-feet, with its level at 1,088 feet, just 28 feet above its dead level of 1,060 feet. The dam, whose maximum conservation level is 1,242 feet, was receiving 16,400 cusecs while releasing 18,000 cusecs on Friday.

This suggests that both reservoirs are depleting fast.

Irsa told the provinces that it was evident from daily discharge data that the Tarbela and Mangla reservoirs “may touch their dead levels in the next few days”, as Irsa had already anticipated at the start of the Rabi season on Oct 2, 2024, when it estimated the storage reaching dead level in first 10 days of March 2025.

Depletion of reservoirs to dead level is a usual phenomenon and could happen twice a year. However, the wheat crop, already faced with lower-than-targeted sowing due to changing government policies, is currently at a critical stage of last watering and should be readying for harvest by the end of this month.

Recent rains

Irsa, however, noted that recent rains had a positive impact on standing crops. “Fortunately, the recent rain spell contributed positively to the Indus Basin Irrigation System (IBIS) and currently, supplies close to the indents are being released for the provinces, keeping in view the water shortages accounted for in the Water Accounts Report,” it said.

The authority said that as per the Water Accounts Report for the period Oct 01, 2024, to Feb 28, 2025, Punjab faced a shortfall of 20pc, while Sindh, during a similar period, faced a shortfall of 14pc against the anticipated shortfall of 16pc approved by the Irsa Advisory Committee on Oct 2, 2024.

Therefore, the water regulator hoped that more upcoming rain spells would positively contribute to the system. It has asked the provinces to take necessary precautionary measures to avoid any untoward situation.

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Sindh Assembly passes unanimous resolution against six canals project

Amid allegations and counter-allegations between the members from both sides of the aisle, the Sindh Assembly on Thursday unanimously passed a resolution against the construction of six new canals on the Indus River.

The resolution, tabled by Chief Minister Syed Murad Ali Shah, also demanded an immediate halt to any plans, activities or work related to the controversial project until an agreement with all provincial governments, particularly Sindh, was reached to ensure that the rights of the province was fully protected and respected.

The speakers from the two sides condemned the federal government’s decision to construct new canals and many of them even termed it a threat to the harmony among provinces.

While the chief minister, his cabinet members and treasury lawmakers said that Sindh had consistently maintained its stance on water distribution, the opposition members questioned the role of Pakistan Peoples Party, which supported the federal coalition government.

Supporting the resolution but with reservations, the opposition members belonging to Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan, Jamaat-i-Islam and Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf lawmakers alleged that the provincial government had tabled the resolution with political designs and for face-saving as the people in parts of the province had already been lodging protest on the issue for the last one month.

Speaking on the resolution, the chief minister warned against any attempt to divert water from the Indus without consent of the province.

He questioned the rationale behind diverting water from Punjab’s fertile lands to Cholistan, arguing that such actions would have devastating consequences for both provinces.

Mr Shah recalled Sindh’s previous objections to various canal projects, leading to agreements such as the Sindh-Punjab Water Accord of 1945.

“We are being told that water will be taken from Punjab’s most fertile lands and diverted to Cholistan and that we should not object,” he said and asked if Punjab would allow its most productive regions, like Chaj Doab and Rachna Doab, to dry up just to irrigate a desert.

He reminded the assembly that past objections from Sindh led to the formation of multiple commissions and, ultimately, to the Sindh-Punjab Agreement, which set clear guidelines for water allocation.

The CM urged all stakeholders to adhere to the historic agreements and ensure a fair distribution of water, keeping in mind the rights of Sindh’s people.

He said that the matter of new canal’s construction was lying with CCI for approval. “If CCI also approves this project, we will go to the joint parliament,” he added.

Supporting the resolution, Opposition Leader Ali Khurshi said that the MQM-P had also stood with Sindh against Kalabagh Dam and Thal Canal.

“If Asif Ali Zardari has cleared it at a big forum, why was there a need for a resolution in the provincial assembly?” he asked.

He said the house should be told as to how many times the Sindh government had talked to the federation about the problems of the people of Sindh. “The issue of gas was discussed, what was its follow-up in the assembly?” asked the government.

He said that the assembly sitting appeared to be a meeting of testimony and explanation and added that it was not a proper forum for opposing the project.

He said that Asif Zardari should call a meeting and oppose the canals.

Senior Minister Sharjeel Inam Memon said that the entire province was united in raising its voice on real issues.

He said that before any major project was undertaken anywhere in the world, a feasibility report was prepared, and the benefit of one specific area could not be prioritised over the collective benefit of all.

He said that even during difficult times, President Asif Ali Zardari raised the slogan of “Pakistan Khappay” (We need Pakistan), and the PPP has always given top priority to Pakistan’s integrity.

Provincial Ministers Syed Sardar Shah, Zia Lanjar, Muhammad Bux Mehar, Dr Azra Fazal Pechuho, Muhammad Ali Malkani and Jam Khan Shoro, PPP’s Jameel Soomro, Nadir Magsi, Fayyaz Butt, Imdad Pitafi, Nawab Sardar Khan Chandio, Karim Soomro, Dr Sikandar Shoro, MQM-P’s Sabir Qaimkhani, Fouzia Hameed, Iftikhar Ahmed, Muhammad Usman, Kiran Masood, PTI’s Shabbir Qureshi, Rehan Bandukda, Bilal Khan Jadoon and Sajjad Soomro, and JI’s Muhammad Farooq also spoke on the resolution.

Later, Speaker Syed Awais Shah adjourned the house to Friday at 2:30pm.

DAWN NEWS

 

[hassan918]

Bilawal asked to join opposition struggle against new canals project​

KARACHI: The Grand Democratic Alliance on Sunday asked Pakistan Peoples Party chairman Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari to join the struggle against the construction of new canals on the Indus River from the platform of the opposition alliance if he genuinely opposed the controversial scheme.

The GDA and Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) announced a joint candidate for the upcoming by-election in National Assembly constituency NA-213, Umerkot, where Lal Malahi will represent the united front in the by-polls. The polling will be held on April 27.

Both sides reached the decision following a meeting of allied parties at Functional House on Sunday.

The alliance vowed to mount a joint struggle against the controversial six canals on the Indus River.

Syed Sadruddin Shah Rashdi, chief coordinator of GDA, while talking to journalists after the meeting, extended a public invitation to the PPP chairman, urging him to join their ongoing movement against the canals on Indus.

He criticised the PPP leadership for its role in “striking deals” on Sindh’s water.

“The PPP chairman will not get any benefit from his father’s dealings, but could gain much by joining the forces of the GDA and PTI.”

He accused the PPP leadership of exploiting Sindh’s resources for their own benefits, warning that the people of the province would reject these “fake coins”.

He said that the alliance’s leaders also emphasised the dire need to address the broader political and economic issues plaguing Pakistan.

Mr Rashdi decried the government’s “failure” to engage in meaningful dialogue to resolve the challenges facing Balochistan, stressing the importance of respecting the public mandate.

He also criticised the growing dominance of traders in politics, accusing them of draining the country’s resources for their own profit.

His remarks were echoed by PTI’s Haleem Adil Sheikh who attended the meeting.

Speaking to journalists, the PTI leader reminded the people of Sindh of former president Dr Arif Alvi, who had refused to sign the controversial project when he was president.

He underscored the importance of protecting Sindh and the Indus River, and warned that under the PPP rule, the province would suffer further neglect in key sectors like health and education.

Source: DAWN

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Water crisis looms in Pakistan as rivers begin to dry up

Fears of a looming water crisis have intensified across Pakistan as key rivers in Punjab are witnessing dangerously low water levels, raising serious concerns over the future of agriculture in the region.

Dry conditions have begun to severely impact major rivers across Punjab. The Ravi River near Lahore is rapidly drying up, while water levels at Head Marala in Sialkot have also dropped significantly. Similarly, the Jhelum River is experiencing a noticeable reduction in flow.

According to the latest data, the Indus River has an inflow of 27,600 cusecs, with an outflow of 25,000 cusecs. The Jhelum River shows an inflow of 30,300 cusecs, while outflow is only 17,000 cusecs. At Chashma Barrage, the inflow is 29,800 cusecs and outflow is 32,000 cusecs. The Chenab River has an inflow of 14,000 cusecs and outflow of 9,000 cusecs, and the Kabul River is seeing equal inflow and outflow of 22,700 cusecs.

Reservoir levels are also a cause for concern. The Tarbela Reservoir currently holds 90,000 acre-feet of water, while the Mangla Reservoir is at 1094.50 feet with a storage of 292,000 acre-feet. The Chashma Reservoir has a water level of 641.60 feet, with a storage of 55,000 acre-feet.

The total usable water stored across Tarbela, Mangla, and Chashma reservoirs is only 437,000 acre-feet, which is far below the requirement for the upcoming crop season.

Water flow data is being monitored in 24-hour averages at Tarbela and Chashma (for the Indus River), Nowshera (for the Kabul River), and Mangla (for the Jhelum River).

Agricultural experts and environmentalists warn that if the situation persists, the impact on Pakistan’s agriculture-dependent economy could be severe, potentially triggering food shortages and economic instability.

Water crisis looms in Pakistan as rivers begin to dry up

Total usable water stored across Tarbela, Mangla, and Chashma reservoirs is only 437,000 acre-feet

english.aaj.tv

 

[The Bald Eagle]

@Bhaijaan @Bhaag Viru Bhaag @Devadwal what next now

Indus Water Treaty paused, no entry to Pakistanis: India responds to J&K attack

In a big move, India on Wednesday announced a slew of countermeasures to end cross-border terrorism and the recent terror attack in Jammu and Kashmir's Pahalgam.

Here are 5 major announcements made by the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA)

• Indus water suspended
• Attari-Wagah border closed
• No entry of Pakistani nations to India
• Mil advisors to Pakistan High Commission expelled
• High commission strength reduced to 30

Source: India Today

 

[Bhaijaan]

@Bhaijaan @Bhaag Viru Bhaag @Devadwal what next now

Indus Water Treaty paused, no entry to Pakistanis: India responds to J&K attack

In a big move, India on Wednesday announced a slew of countermeasures to end cross-border terrorism and the recent terror attack in Jammu and Kashmir's Pahalgam.

Here are 5 major announcements made by the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA)

• Indus water suspended
• Attari-Wagah border closed
• No entry of Pakistani nations to India
• Mil advisors to Pakistan High Commission expelled
• High commission strength reduced to 30

Source: India Today

This govt is under pressure.

As popular PM Modi is, he has to face the anger of an emotional nation right now and inaction will lead to severe downfall in his approval rating.

 

[Devadwal]

@Bhaijaan @Bhaag Viru Bhaag @Devadwal what next now

Indus Water Treaty paused, no entry to Pakistanis: India responds to J&K attack

In a big move, India on Wednesday announced a slew of countermeasures to end cross-border terrorism and the recent terror attack in Jammu and Kashmir's Pahalgam.

Here are 5 major announcements made by the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA)

• Indus water suspended
• Attari-Wagah border closed
• No entry of Pakistani nations to India
• Mil advisors to Pakistan High Commission expelled
• High commission strength reduced to 30

Source: India Today

Indus water treaty held in abeyance is Big move and I was hoping for this . Rest are useless .

 

[Vikram1989]

Indus water treaty held in abeyance is Big move and I was hoping for this . Rest are useless .

I think Karachi is already struggling with lack of water

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I think Karachi is already struggling with lack of water

Nah that's Bangalore bruv

 

[Vikram1989]

Nah that's Bangalore bruv

H2(N)O: Nor any drop to drink for Karachi’s other half

Karachi’s water crisis won’t be solved with billion-rupee mega-projects but through people-centred reforms that give informal settlements legal recognition and reliable services they can count on.

www.dawn.com

 

[Bhaijaan]

Chu. Fawad Chaudhary
India has suspended the Indus Water Treaty. Now Sindh and Punjab can continue their canals and wars without water... Brother, deal with the real enemy first!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915073894093836712

 

[Josh]

Interesting move.

I wouldn't mind seeing loudmouths like @Major go from door to door in Rawalpindi, desperately asking for some water.

Does india have the infrastructure ready to divert the water ?

 

[RexRex]

Does india have the infrastructure ready to divert the water ?

I doubt it, nothing's going to happen imo.

 

[Major]

@RexRex im glad you take pleasure in other peoples suffering

 

[Major]

Nah that's Bangalore bruv

A country cant unilaterally suspend or cancel an international treaty. This has been outlined in the Vienna Convention on the law of treaties.

Even if India dares to do that, China will than do the same and suspend waters to the bramautra river as issues are ongoing there aswell.

India would be very irresponsible to make such a move, especially when they are begging for UNSC seat and by adopting this eco terrorism stance, India would do any good for itself. Pakistan would use this against them especially since UN has been more focus on climate impact.

These posters like @Devadwal talk nonsense all the time.

 

[Devadwal]

A country cant unilaterally suspend or cancel an international treaty. This has been outlined in the Vienna Convention on the law of treaties.

Even if India dares to do that, China will than do the same and suspend waters to the bramautra river as issues are ongoing there aswell.

India would be very irresponsible to make such a move, especially when they are begging for UNSC seat and by adopting this eco terrorism stance, India would do any good for itself. Pakistan would use this against them especially since UN has been more focus on climate impact.

These posters like @Devadwal talk nonsense all the time.

You have no clue as always . IWT Excluded from jurisdiction as per accession caveats. ICJ accepted it has no jurisdiction between India & Pakistan in the 2000 Atlantique shoot down case.

Pakistan may seek intervention from global bodies like the United Nations or the World Bank (a signatory to the IWT) to challenge India’s unilateral suspension. However, the success of such efforts is uncertain, given India’s strategic influence and the treaty’s provisions allowing suspension under specific conditions (e.g., material breach).

Pakistan can cry as much they like but no one listens

 

[LordJames]

So Hindutva have issues with Aurangzeb but no issues with committing genocide of others or depriving them from water, although largely poor civilians downstream have nothing to do with Kashmir or politics and mainly live desperate lives.

Let history take note that a large number of Hindus have no issues with depriving others of water.

 

[Buzzinga]

A country cant unilaterally suspend or cancel an international treaty. This has been outlined in the Vienna Convention on the law of treaties.

Even if India dares to do that, China will than do the same and suspend waters to the bramautra river as issues are ongoing there aswell.

India would be very irresponsible to make such a move, especially when they are begging for UNSC seat and by adopting this eco terrorism stance, India would do any good for itself. Pakistan would use this against them especially since UN has been more focus on climate impact.

These posters like @Devadwal talk nonsense all the time.

Just so you're clear, Brahmputra doesn't cause much of headache for India as suspension of Indus treaty does for Pakistan.

Anyways wrt to your first line, yes a country can suspend the treaty.

 

[Major]

Just so you're clear, Brahmputra doesn't cause much of headache for India as suspension of Indus treaty does for Pakistan.

Anyways wrt to your first line, yes a country can suspend the treaty.

no a country cannot suspend a treaty unilaterally unless dictated in the terms.

 

[HalBass9]

Looks like the warnings were right, wars of the future won’t just be fought over land or ideology, but over water. And when basic human needs become tools of political leverage, we’ve crossed a line from diplomacy into desperation.

 

[Buzzinga]

no a country cannot suspend a treaty unilaterally unless dictated in the terms.

Look i know about Vienna convention and all that.

Legally what you said might be right but I'm talking in practical sense that India can suspend this and they have already announced the suspension and by the time arbitration etc resolve the issue, the damage done might be too much to handle for Pakistan.

 

[Major]

Look i know about Vienna convention and all that.

Legally what you said might be right but I'm talking in practical sense that India can suspend this and they have already announced the suspension and by the time arbitration etc resolve the issue, the damage done might be too much to handle for Pakistan.

India wont actaully pull it off since they are looking forward to the UNSC seat. Too risky for them

 

[Buzzinga]

India wont actaully pull it off since they are looking forward to the UNSC seat. Too risky for them

UNSC seat ship has sailed a long time ago. With China having the veto power, they are never going to let India have the permanent seat.

If India somehow doesn't walk the talk about suspension of the treaty it wouldn't because of UNSC seat. Nobody cares about it anymore so i think whatever peace existed between these two countries, it is in real danger now.

 

[Devadwal]

Blood and water cannot flow simultaneously. Period

 

[HalBass9]

Rattled.

Oh you are back with emoji.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

A country cant unilaterally suspend or cancel an international treaty. This has been outlined in the Vienna Convention on the law of treaties.

Even if India dares to do that, China will than do the same and suspend waters to the bramautra river as issues are ongoing there aswell.

India would be very irresponsible to make such a move, especially when they are begging for UNSC seat and by adopting this eco terrorism stance, India would do any good for itself. Pakistan would use this against them especially since UN has been more focus on climate impact.

These posters like @Devadwal talk nonsense all the time.

It is just a symbolic response for now there isnt anything India can do for a few years treaty or no treaty. They have been trying to renegotiate for years even the government of IOK has asked the central government to renegotiate it.

Meeting of Pakistan nsc is sign something big is cooking.

 

[shortbread]

no a country cannot suspend a treaty unilaterally unless dictated in the terms.

The question is what punishment is it that India fears if they do withdraw? The top brass needs to start making diplomatic moves to ensure severe sanctions if they do go through with it.

 

[HalBass9]

The question is what punishment is it that India fears if they do withdraw? The top brass needs to start making diplomatic moves to ensure severe sanctions if they do go through with it.

This is an overreach, and all Pakistan really needs to do is be loud and clear about it. India isn’t Israel, though some in power like to pretend otherwise. At the end of the day, India belongs to the subcontinent, and it will always have to live within it, alongside its neighbors, not above them.

 

[ipog]

So Hindutva have issues with Aurangzeb but no issues with committing genocide of others or depriving them from water, although largely poor civilians downstream have nothing to do with Kashmir or politics and mainly live desperate lives.

Let history take note that a large number of Hindus have no issues with depriving others of water.

Indeed, the history did well to take note that how a large number of Muslims support the violence against other religions just because of religion. A car crashes a market, kills people with attacker shouting religious chants, someone hijacked and crashed a building with flight in the name of god, someone bombed school children and someone shot innocent ppl in point blank due to their religion, the first thought that comes to mind is how does a large number of Muslims allow this to happen in the name of their religion. As long as that is not sorted, no point pondering what others do as a reaction.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Well brother @Devadwal is managing to ruffle some feathers here.

He told us his family members were killed yesterday but he's here spamming threads today. Its obvious who is ruffled

 

[Devadwal]

Well brother @Devadwal is managing to ruffle some feathers here.

Some of poster here enjoying the killing of innocent tourists. @DeadlyVenom @Major these are the poster who enjoyed. He asked what's the latest updates .now I'm updating him every latest news.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Some of poster here enjoying the killing of innocent tourists. @DeadlyVenom @Major these are the poster who enjoyed. He asked what's the latest updates .now I updates him every latest news.

Nobody has enjoyed killing apart from you.

You ran from from the other thread after you were shown the mirror

 

[HalBass9]

Indeed, the history did well to take note that how a large number of Muslims support the violence against other religions just because of religion. A car crashes a market, kills people with attacker shouting religious chants, someone hijacked and crashed a building with flight in the name of god, someone bombed school children and someone shot innocent ppl in point blank due to their religion, the first thought that comes to mind is how does a large number of Muslims allow this to happen in the name of their religion. As long as that is not sorted, no point pondering what others do as a reaction.

I’d like to believe the answer is no, that the majority of Indians do not support lynching over mere suspicion of cow smuggling. But the fact remains, these incidents occur more frequently than the high profile terrorist attacks that dominate headlines.

 

[Devadwal]

Nobody has enjoyed killing apart from you.

You ran from from the other thread after you were shown the mirror

I have seen your reality .I don't need any explanation .

 

[Rajdeep]

Well brother @Devadwal is managing to ruffle some feathers here.

He is too good. Single handedly rattle these guys here

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I have seen your reality .I don't need any explanation .

We have seen your in BLA thread

And your anti Muslim comments

Don't worry all is noted

 

[Devadwal]

He is too good. Single handedly rattle these guys here

My English is poor so I can't express my feelings with proper way .

 

[HalBass9]

Some of poster here enjoying the killing of innocent tourists. @DeadlyVenom @Major these are the poster who enjoyed. He asked what's the latest updates .now I'm updating him every latest news.

No one here takes pride in justifying the killing of innocents, that dark distinction, unfortunately, has been far too normalized within Hindutva circles.

There are open threads where Indian politicians have voiced support for mass violence, and individuals—both self proclaimed atheist Hindutva supporters like @rpant_gabba and vocal ideologues like @Rajdeep, have stood behind @uppercut’s disturbing rationalizations for killing people over their beliefs.

But let’s be clear, this isn’t a competition. If it were, the record of justifying mass murder against Muslims would sadly speak for itself. And no amount of deflection can rewrite that truth.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

@rpant_gabba you have gone AWOL bro miss your insights aja vapis need to hear your theories about tasting fruits.

 

[Devadwal]

We have seen your in BLA thread

And your anti Muslim comments

Don't worry all is noted

Aww . I know what I wrote there. I don't need your explanation.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

No one here takes pride in justifying the killing of innocents, that dark distinction, unfortunately, has been far too normalized within Hindutva circles.

There are open threads where Indian politicians have voiced support for mass violence, and individuals—both self proclaimed atheist Hindutva supporters like @rpant_gabba and vocal ideologues like @Rajdeep, have stood behind @uppercut’s disturbing rationalizations for killing people over their beliefs.

But let’s be clear, this isn’t a competition. If it were, the record of justifying mass murder against Muslims would sadly speak for itself. And no amount of deflection can rewrite that truth.

Unfortunately these extremist Hindus have decided to slander me.

@Devadwal even got angry when I asked for images of dead bodies alongside comments he made about their ***** to be removed , out of respect for victims and their family.

It is just trolling from him

 

[Rajdeep]

No one here takes pride in justifying the killing of innocents, that dark distinction, unfortunately, has been far too normalized within Hindutva circles.

There are open threads where Indian politicians have voiced support for mass violence, and individuals—both self proclaimed atheist Hindutva supporters like @rpant_gabba and vocal ideologues like @Rajdeep, have stood behind @uppercut’s disturbing rationalizations for killing people over their beliefs.

But let’s be clear, this isn’t a competition. If it were, the record of justifying mass murder against Muslims would sadly speak for itself. And no amount of deflection can rewrite that truth.

LOL not sure when have I done any of that but voicing about violence is different from actually shooting down people. Let any Indian or Hindutva do these terrorism acts and then we can talk

 

[HalBass9]

Unfortunately these extremist Hindus have decided to slander me.

@Devadwal even got angry when I asked for images of dead bodies alongside comments he made about their penis to be removed , out of respect for victims and their family.

It is just trolling from him

That’s not trolling, that’s just their true face showing. And the saddest part? It’s not even hidden anymore. It’s been well documented, time and again, for anyone willing to see it.

 

[Devadwal]

Unfortunately these extremist Hindus have decided to slander me.

@Devadwal even got angry when I asked for images of dead bodies alongside comments he made about their ***** to be removed , out of respect for victims and their family.

It is just trolling from him

I have seen you true colour now . Nvm

 

[HalBass9]

LOL not sure when have I done any of that but voicing about violence is different from actually shooting down people. Let any Indian or Hindutva do these terrorism acts and then we can talk

I don’t expect Modi to go to war for you, just like I don’t expect you to carry out violence yourself. That’s what the foot soldiers of Hindutva are for, right? Let others do the dirty work while you cheer from the sidelines and pretend your hands are clean.

 

[ipog]

I’d like to believe the answer is no, that the majority of Indians do not support lynching over mere suspicion of cow smuggling. But the fact remains, these incidents occur more frequently than the high profile terrorist attacks that dominate headlines.

More frequently than the blasphemy lynchings in Pakistan? More Importantly, no one is attacked for being a Muslim in India otherwise there would not be 20+ crore people now. Remind me the number of Hindus in Pak in 1947 and now?

Unlike your jungle Raj, we have a system, justice may be delayed but prevails. If really guilty they are put behind the bars and gets punished for their crime whereas you guys celebrate terrorists killing other religions. Obl, hafeez saeed, dawood are the role models I guess.

 

[Rajdeep]

I don’t expect Modi to go to war for you, just like I don’t expect you to carry out violence yourself. That’s what the foot soldiers of Hindutva are for, right? Let others do the dirty work while you cheer from the sidelines and pretend your hands are clean.

Which foot soldiers of Hindutva doing violence? Are you talking about Indian army that is filled with people of all religion?

Who is doing dirty work for us while I cheer from side line?

Then when I talk about education, you get senti.

Why are you talking in a cryptic language? Seedha bolo.

 

[HalBass9]

More frequently than the blasphemy lynchings in Pakistan? More Importantly, no one is attacked for being a Muslim in India otherwise there would not be 20+ crore people now. Remind me the number of Hindus in Pak in 1947 and now?

Unlike your jungle Raj, we have a system, justice may be delayed but prevails. If really guilty they are put behind the bars and gets punished for their crime whereas you guys celebrate terrorists killing other religions. Obl, hafeez saeed, dawood are the role models I guess.

Cliche

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Guys stick to the thread topic please

 

[LordJames]

Indeed, the history did well to take note that how a large number of Muslims support the violence against other religions just because of religion. A car crashes a market, kills people with attacker shouting religious chants, someone hijacked and crashed a building with flight in the name of god, someone bombed school children and someone shot innocent ppl in point blank due to their religion, the first thought that comes to mind is how does a large number of Muslims allow this to happen in the name of their religion. As long as that is not sorted, no point pondering what others do as a reaction.

No, Muslims do not.

1. The World Trade Center cheering is Fake News
2. The car being used to hit civilians is horrific and nobody cheers

And if someone does then it is grotesque.

But since you come from a land of fake news and have hate filled dark soul, nothing will penetrate

Nothing needs to be sorted in Islam at all.

 

[Devadwal]

Same chap who said 370 can’t be abrogated now says Pakistan will walk away from the Shimla agreement. FYI Shimla was long dead - the two keywords - BILATERAL & PEACEFUL were thrown in the dustbin within 4-5 years of the signing. Poor fellow seems desperate.

 

[Devadwal]

Does india have the infrastructure ready to divert the water ?

If you think India hasn’t already laid the groundwork to choke Pakistan, you might be mistaken:

Kishanganga HEP (tributary of Jhelum)
2018, diverts water via 23 km tunnel

Ratle HEP (on Chenab)
Revived in 2021, 850 MW- Pak flagged flow manipulation fears

Tulbul Navigation Project (on Jhelum)
Revival in 2016 post Uri
Can regulate flow. Shelved once (really?)

Shahpurkandi Dam (on Ravi)
2018, blocks surplus water from flowing into Pak

Ujh Multipurpose Project (tributary of Ravi)
2020, storage+ irrigation+ hydro- aims to stop flow into Pak

Indus Water Treaty on hold temporarily but the heat will be felt.

 

[ipog]

No, Muslims do not.

1. The World Trade Center cheering is Fake News
2. The car being used to hit civilians is horrific and nobody cheers

And if someone does then it is grotesque.

But since you come from a land of fake news and have hate filled dark soul, nothing will penetrate

Nothing needs to be sorted in Islam at all.

So long as a large number of Muslims are fine with extremists killing others in the name of god, why don't extend the same privilege to the other side Hindus who don't have any say in what the govt does.

A Muslim devouring innocent killings and talking about soul is the funniest joke. You are taught the most basic crudest things for a reason because it expects cattle like followers with no brains. How many wives you can have. What part you need to cut, how to punish people who don't agree with you. How to behead. It's a most basic manual for animals, good for you it works. Respecting another human being or another religion is basic decency which you or your ilk have no idea of.

 

[RexRex]

@RexRex im glad you take pleasure in other peoples suffering

I'm hearing news that tenders r to be floated next week for construction of Indus dams. Things are moving fast.

Say goodbye to those hot showers, Major.

 

[LordJames]

So long as a large number of Muslims are fine with extremists killing others in the name of god, why don't extend the same privilege to the other side Hindus who don't have any say in what the govt does.

A Muslim devouring innocent killings and talking about soul is the funniest joke. You are taught the most basic crudest things for a reason because it expects cattle like followers with no brains. How many wives you can have. What part you need to cut, how to punish people who don't agree with you. How to behead. It's a most basic manual for animals, good for you it works. Respecting another human being or another religion is basic decency which you or your ilk have no idea of.

A large number of Muslims are not fine with killing civilians noncombatants in the name of anyone.

1. A Muslim is permitted to have upto 4 wives and if you are referring to po·lyg·y·ny then it is permitted in many religions and cultures (such as ex-President Jacob Zuma) including Hinduism (illegal in India since 1955, I know but the religion does)
2. A Muslims is allowed to slaughter and eat animals as are millions of others from other religions and cultures

So whatever...

 

[ipog]

A large number of Muslims are not fine with killing civilians noncombatants in the name of anyone.

1. A Muslim is permitted to have upto 4 wives and if you are referring to po·lyg·y·ny then it is permitted in many religions and cultures (such as ex-President Jacob Zuma) including Hinduism (illegal in India since 1955, I know but the religion does)
2. A Muslims is allowed to slaughter and eat animals as are millions of others from other religions and cultures

So whatever...

Then read your below comment with a 'not fine' in the same coin too and then do whatever you are supposed to be doing as per your manual.

"Let history take note that a large number of Hindus have no issues with depriving others of water."

 

[KingKhanWC]

Depriving water is cowardly , shows india has no real ability to do anything to harm those who they feel are responsible.

No surgical strikes this time ?

 

[speed]

Depriving water is cowardly , shows india has no real ability to do anything to harm those who they feel are responsible.

No surgical strikes this time ?

They are filling there jets with Cow gobar, ready to deploy them at any time, and cow urine as energy drink for the pilots.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Even if India dares to do that, China will than do the same and suspend waters to the bramautra river as issues are ongoing there aswell.



These posters like @Devadwal talk nonsense all the time.

This is were you Pakistanis are driving on the wrong side of the road.

India is one of China's largest trade partners, their trade with each other is around $120 billion a year and growing. Highly dought the Chinese will jeapordise their relations with India using the Brahmaputra river for Pakistan, which is broke practically zero economy... Especially now were Donald Trump is causing all kinds of economic chaos with China.

However, I hope this conflict does come to a quick end, cutting of water supply by India is only going to punish the poor ppl of Pakistan whilst the ISI and army men live their luxury lives with foreign passports and homes in the western world..

 

[HalBass9]

This is were you Pakistanis are driving on the wrong side of the road.

India is one of China's largest trade partners, their trade with each other is around $120 billion a year and growing. Highly dought the Chinese will jeapordise their relations with India using the Brahmaputra river for Pakistan, which is broke practically zero economy... Especially now were Donald Trump is causing all kinds of economic chaos with China.

However, I hope this conflict does come to a quick end, cutting of water supply by India is only going to punish the poor ppl of Pakistan whilst the ISI and army men live their luxury lives with foreign passports and homes in the western world..

With all due respect, this is where the assessment falls short. Cutting off the water supply is not only unsustainable in the long term, but also risks generating significant international backlash and negative PR for India.

If such a course of action is continued, it could very well escalate into open conflict, something neither side can afford.

From an objective standpoint, it would be an unwise and counterproductive move.

 

[Romali_rotti]

With all due respect, this is where the assessment falls short. Cutting off the water supply is not only unsustainable in the long term, but also risks generating significant international backlash and negative PR for India.

If such a course of action is continued, it could very well escalate into open conflict, something neither side can afford.

From an objective standpoint, it would be an unwise and counterproductive move.

I do hope things are restored rather quickly and the water treaty is back to what it was prior to the terror incident.

 

[Hikaru]

While this feels good emotions being high right now, I wouldn't wish water crisis for the general population anywhere.

This should be a good opportunity to renegotiate the treaty though. Until Pakistan builds a robust water storage/diversion infrastructure, the treaty needs some logical amendments, it always needed it regardless of the attack.

 

[m.shah]

I was hoping India will do something so that those army generals or terrorist handlers will get effected directly but what a loose response from Coward govt. This will effect common masses and they don't have to anything with these attacks and all. Modi and Amit Shah are all talk and no action.