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Pakistan finish Day 3 at 37/0 in chase of 176 after Hasan Ali and Yasir Shah five-fers

Yea Ten Sports wala doesn't help PAK fans - instead of showing highlights of today's game, they are showing Usman Shinwari's heroics against SRL reserves ..........
 
I feel this partnership has already taken the game beyond mentally fragile Pak batters
 
You keep on dreaming.
Pak can even chase down 250. Lot of time left in the match.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Tactics pertaining to this match or selection in general?
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I never agreed with the selection of Bilal. Haris has out bowled him. Should have selected another specialist spinner.

He should aim to keep the field up and not allow easy singles. Maybe should bowl Hafeez more if he is in the team. But if things were going well the Sarfraz fan club would be telling us it's because of him.
 
I think, if it doesn't reverse, they'll take the new ball, may be after 4 or 5 balls.
 
Hasan123 said:
I never agreed with the selection of Bilal. Haris has out bowled him. Should have selected another specialist spinner.

He should aim to keep the field up and not allow easy singles. Maybe should bowl Hafeez more if he is in the team. But if things were going well the Sarfraz fan club would be telling us it's because of him.
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He’s not allowing easy singles, if you look closely at the fields he has been setting for both Bilal and Yasir. Yasir has been guilty of providing one rubbish ball every over, while Bilal is struggling because there is hardly any bounce in this wicket. Not much Sarfraz can do if Yasir and Bilal do not bowl according to the fields. I believe his handling of the pace bowlers in general has been spot on. Could give a few more overs to Haris though.
 
Afternoon session Pakistan looked flat, clueless and lacking energy and ideas.

It was almost as if they were expecting NZ to fold.
 
If pak selection/ management had a brain cell in them they would select

Fakhar
Sharjeel
Baba
Haris

In ALL formats the likes of imam hafeez azhars wouldn’t make the eng/ind 3rd xi
 
AAli98 said:
If pak selection/ management had a brain cell in them they would select

Fakhar
Sharjeel
Baba
Haris

In ALL formats the likes of imam hafeez azhars wouldn’t make the eng/ind 3rd xi
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Sharjeel is finished, even if he is allowed to come back tomorrow. It'll take at least one full season (next domestics) for his to get back into batting grove. And, I am not sure about his fitness level - ideally, when he'll be ready, he should be well into 30s.
 
MMHS said:
Sharjeel is finished, even if he is allowed to come back tomorrow. It'll take at least one full season (next domestics) for his to get back into batting grove. And, I am not sure about his fitness level - ideally, when he'll be ready, he should be well into 30s.
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Rather have a paid $$$ sharjeel dot ball than these useless imams hafeez’s tuk tuking all day!!
 
Pakistan have big problems as they're unable to get any wickets.

How much will they be able to chase?

Not more than 250 I think. Even that would be difficult.
 
AAli98 said:
Rather have a paid $$$ sharjeel dot ball than these useless imams hafeez’s tuk tuking all day!!
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Should look to batsmen officially U25 - couple of years under Arthur, few of them can reach Babar's level - enough. 10-12 years investment has brought MoHa, Asad, Malik, Azhar, Sarfraz at this level, therefore don't think it's going to improve further.
 
AAli98 said:
Rather have a paid $$$ sharjeel dot ball than these useless imams hafeez’s tuk tuking all day!!
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Imam has a 47 SR and Hafeez has a 56 SR in Tests. And they're the tuk tuks? If that is tuk tuk, I shudder to imagine what you think of Azhar Ali.
 
Pakistan's lack of planning and any skills gets exposed time and time again yet they don't do anything to work in the time they have off from the game.
 
From the batting pastern of both teams, I think this wicket is extremely difficult for new batsman. Kiwis 153 was built on one partnership of like 75, PAK also had one of 80+ and now Kiwis 203 is built on 83 & 95*. Once set, batsmen have to cash on it - but so far only 3 50s & no hundreds.
 
emranabbas said:
Chill it's the third day, 2 more days to go

Pak batsmen will grind it out with Tuk Tuk
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Tuk tuk will put the team under more pressure. Same batting line up couldn't even chase 135 against Sri Lanka. Now they will chase over 200 against a superior team?
 
Watling as frustrated Bangladesh a lot in the past.

No surprise Pakistan are facing it too
 
Hasan123 said:
Tuk tuk will put the team under more pressure. Same batting line up couldn't even chase 135 against Sri Lanka. Now they will chase over 200 against a superior team?
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Sri Lanka had a much better attack than New Zealand. Pakistan can chase down anything around 200, provided the batsmen keep their heads in this chase.
 
Nicholls has batted well. Gave his wicket away in the first innings but seems to be trying to make up from it.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Sri Lanka had a much better attack than New Zealand. Pakistan can chase down anything around 200, provided the batsmen keep their heads in this chase.
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Herath is a supeior spinner to NZ spinners but wasn't aware that Lakmal was better than either Boult or Wagner. :))
 
Sarfraz capatincy hasn't been great but I think these 2 batting has been better. I'll give credit to Watling and Nicholls.
 
Hasan123 said:
Herath is a supeior spinner to NZ spinners but wasn't aware that Lakmal was better than either Boult or Wagner. :))
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Herath was superior to this NZ bowling attack combined. He was instrumental in dismantling Pakistan in that series. Boult, Wagner or any other pacer cannot have the same impact
 
Usman Chadda said:
What does Watling frustrating a nonsense Test team like Bangladesh have to do with this match?
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The only nonsense here is that you are not getting the context.

Watling has taken New Zealand from a difficult position to a comfortable position. He has done that against BD too several times. It is a case of similarity.
 
If NZ lose a wicket, de Grandhomme should have license to attack and really take the game away from Pakistan with a quick cameo as he's capable of.

A quick 40 or 50 and NZ can bat us out of the game. We don't have Younis Khan's 4th inninings heroics to rely on anymore. They will back Boult, Wagner and co to defend whatever they set.
 
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Markhor said:
If NZ lose a wicket, de Grandhomme should have license to attack and really take the game away from Pakistan with a quick cameo as he's capable of.

A quick 40 or 50 and NZ can bat us out of the game. We don't have Younis Khan's 4th inninings heroics to rely on anymore. They will back Boult, Wagner and co to defend whatever they set.
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That's what their plan would be.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Herath was superior to this NZ bowling attack combined. He was instrumental in dismantling Pakistan in that series. Boult, Wagner or any other pacer cannot have the same impact
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Boult has already humiliated us in this series. If there's any reverse he will find it.
 
Remember the 2016 Edgbaston Test where we also had a small-ish lead.

England in their 2nd innings were patient for a long time, wearing out our bowlers before Bairstow and Ali cut loose and took the game away from us.
 
Markhor said:
If NZ lose a wicket, de Grandhomme should have license to attack and really take the game away from Pakistan with a quick cameo as he's capable of.

A quick 40 or 50 and NZ can bat us out of the game. We don't have Younis Khan's 4th inninings heroics to rely on anymore. They will back Boult, Wagner and co to defend whatever they set.
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They'll try to do exactly that - whoever survives from this pair will try to bat out one end and last 5 wickets going after the ball - another 100 with this lead, Kiwis are clear favorite.
 
You know there isnt anything in the pitch when even Abbas cant find a hint of movement.
Extremely borinng match right now.

:/
 
Executioner said:
The only nonsense here is that you are not getting the context.

Watling has taken New Zealand from a difficult position to a comfortable position. He has done that against BD too several times. It is a case of similarity.
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The only nonsense here is that BD posters bring in Bangladesh in every thread as an example as if they really matter as a Test team. Its annoying.

Watling has played two absolute blinders against Sri Lanka and India, where he combined with a senior player to drum up massive partnerships that shut the opposition out of the game. I'm sure you had no idea about those knocks, while you were too focused on Watling's innings against Bangladesh which he himself wouldn't care about I'm sure.
 
There are no demons in the pitch. But the pressure of chasing a big total will eat up Pakistan.
 
NZ's clear tactics is not to give Abbas wicket and wear him out of attack. Already has bowled 32 overs in less than 3 days, and this is probably his last spell of the day.
 
Hasan123 said:
Boult has already humiliated us in this series. If there's any reverse he will find it.
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The only 'humiliation' I saw, was Boult throwing his toys out of the pram when Fakhar began dishing out some horrid beating to him in the ODIs :))

If our batsmen apply themselves, NZ's bowling attack shouldn't cause us any problems.
 
Btw Mohammad Irfan Jailer ( SLA not leggie) got 4 wickets today against Eng Lions.

I would draft him to the main side asap.
 
Pitch looks flat but pak will definitely struggle with the chase from here on. Mentally the scoreboard pressure will be too much for
 
Looks like these 2s will score 100 and then Boult will destroy our trundling batting.
 
Pak have so many matches due to our poor chasing. Anything less than 300 is chase able here considering the wicket.
 
Usman Chadda said:
The only nonsense here is that BD posters bring in Bangladesh in every thread as an example as if they really matter as a Test team. Its annoying.

Watling has played two absolute blinders against Sri Lanka and India, where he combined with a senior player to drum up massive partnerships that shut the opposition out of the game. I'm sure you had no idea about those knocks, while you were too focused on Watling's innings against Bangladesh which he himself wouldn't care about I'm sure.
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He is a Bangladeshi poster, what's wrong bringing that example here? You are a laughing stalk in AUS for 20 years now - still I have heard Dean Jones bringing PAK game as example. Do you realize that Kiwis have got you nervous here & you are taking your frustration out of Bangladesh? No, you are absolutely wrong if you think Watling won't care about his Test inning against any team, just like whole PAK cricket including Coach celebrated Fakhar's 200 against ZIM reserves. Don't try to insult any one - his example was perfectly within context.
 
Usman Chadda said:
The only nonsense here is that BD posters bring in Bangladesh in every thread as an example as if they really matter as a Test team. Its annoying.

Watling has played two absolute blinders against Sri Lanka and India, where he combined with a senior player to drum up massive partnerships that shut the opposition out of the game. I'm sure you had no idea about those knocks, while you were too focused on Watling's innings against Bangladesh which he himself wouldn't care about I'm sure.
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Dude you are the only one getting riled up here unnecessarily. I just mentioned Bangladesh. I didn't say BD is the only team he performed against. Yes I heard about his exploits against other Asian sides but I didn't get to watch the match so I didn't bring them into discussion.
 
De Grandhomme is the big wicket here. Ideally would've wanted him in when the ball was reversing. He'd be comfortable with this new ball.
 
I believe Abbas' streak of taking a wicket in every innings is under threat. I think he's taken a wicket in at least 12 consecutive innings.
 
Abbas has not been lucky this match. He has beaten the edge again and again and when he did get the edge it turned out to be a thickish one where the ball went in front.
 
MMHS said:
He is a Bangladeshi poster, what's wrong bringing that example here? You are a laughing stalk in AUS for 20 years now - still I have heard Dean Jones bringing PAK game as example. Do you realize that Kiwis have got you nervous here & you are taking your frustration out of Bangladesh? No, you are absolutely wrong if you think Watling won't care about his Test inning against any team, just like whole PAK cricket including Coach celebrated Fakhar's 200 against ZIM reserves. Don't try to insult any one - his example was perfectly within context.
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Executioner said:
Dude you are the only one getting riled up here unnecessarily. I just mentioned Bangladesh. I didn't say BD is the only team he performed against. Yes I heard about his exploits against other Asian sides but I didn't get to watch the match so I didn't bring them into discussion.
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Cut him some slack, he suffers from Banglaphobia. The symptoms have only aggravated after the Asia Cup humiliation.
 
Watling is another underrated New Zealand cricketer. He has been one of the most reliable WKs of this decade.
 
Grandhomme should have batted at no 11 here. This hack wasnt going to survive here in any way despite great batting conditions. Wasted a review too.
 
Anything above 200 is going to be really challenging. Hope the top 3 actually perform this time.
 
Kiwis would try to carry the innings to Day 4, so that they can use the heavy roller on 4th morning. But, might be tough - still 16 overs left.
 
when i went to bed Hasan took 2 wicket, now i woke up and Shah take 2 wickets.
 
The Viper said:
Real shame that NZ don't play more tests. This guy is quality.
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Cricket will always be a distance second sport in New Zealand, and it is of course a shame for some of their players who would have been big stars in other countries.
 
Since that first innings against aussies Bilal Asif hasnt been that much effective. Arthur and Sarfaraz should call in another spinner to the squad for the 2nd match irrespective of the result in this match.
 
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