Pakistan finish Day 3 on 137/8 against England, lead by 244 runs

[Markhor]

Abid needs a fifty to settle his nerves, but can't keep pushing at the ball with hard hands playing away from his body.

Azhar does not look like getting double figures. I know Babar will be desperate to make a big score having not converted his 69.

200 in this innings should be more than enough for Pakistan to defend on a wearing surface.

 

[darksher]

Most batsmen struggle early in their innings in test matches. Azhar when he was in his peak used to play really well after he was set. Even now just like any batsmen if he somehow can survive for sometime, get his eye set he can score but obviously with age reflexes go down so that initial settlement phase becomes difficult.

Yes, most batsmen struggle early but not THIS bad, he can't even defend one delivery with authority to give him some confidence and you get the idea that he might get out any ball.

 

[Yk313]

ODI series against England before the World Cup.

Don’t think Abid featured in that if I am not mistaken? Genuinely do not remember man...

 

[topspin]

But for how long? I’m sure there are others in the management that are growing tired of Azhar’s poor performances.

I know a MD shouldn't intervene and let the coaches do their job, but if Misbah's incompetence were to remain then I'd like to see Wasim Khan do what he needs to do.

 

[Yk313]

Abid needs a fifty to settle his nerves, but can't keep pushing at the ball with hard hands playing away from his body.

Azhar does not look like getting double figures. I know Babar will be desperate to make a big score having not converted his 69.

200 in this innings should be more than enough for Pakistan to defend on a wearing surface.

Babar should be itching to score big, especially seeing Shan do it well. Just showed it was there for the taking.

 

[Shafi]

But for how long? I’m sure there are others in the management that are growing tired of Azhar’s poor performances.

Others don't have any say. Otherwise bowlers like S Khan, Imran K, Bhatti, Musa, Wahab shouldn't be there. Others coaching stuffs are there to work what has given to them without any objection.

 

[darksher]

Abid needs a fifty to settle his nerves, but can't keep pushing at the ball with hard hands playing away from his body.

Azhar does not look like getting double figures. I know Babar will be desperate to make a big score having not converted his 69.

200 in this innings should be more than enough for Pakistan to defend on a wearing surface.

You have it all figured out, haven't you?

 

[Yk313]

The same people would have been crying had Pakistan lost a buckets of wickets in the first session to Broad and Anderson on a seaming pitch with overcast conditions. They would be saying "why did Pakistan win toss and bat first to give England such helpful conditions"

But I don’t think that contradicts [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] point. I think all of us agree that having the correct idea and executing it right are different things. Pak had the right idea and executed it tight. Not too different from playing 2 spinners and finding no spin vs well, what we saw from YS and too an extent SK.

 

[Shafi]

I know a MD shouldn't intervene and let the coaches do their job, but if Misbah's incompetence were to remain then I'd like to see Wasim Khan do what he needs to do.

Do you really believe Wasim Khan? The guy is all talk but select garbage in our setup. He is n PCB because of his self promote tall/positive/fake future planning talk.

 

[Yk313]

India didnt win any toss but they lost not because of that rather because of poor cricket they play in Eng. They won one test despite loosing a toss in which they played good cricket.

Pak despite loosing the toss won a test in Eng in 2016 (2-2 drawn) as well as in 2018 (1-1 drawn).

Toss is important in test cricket anywhere in the world, batting first gives you a slightly better chance in most conditions but only if you have capability to play good cricket. You can win tests despite loosing a toss as well and that too anywhere in the world if you perform well.

Any Indian fan saying that toss makes a difference in Eng and you cant win without winning a toss is just making an excuse and nothing else.

I agree - I watched most of the series and I think India were quite ordinary despite a mammoth series for VK, interestingly. The only other thing I can think of are personnel changes - I think only Cook was there who is no longer available. Anyone else?

 

[topspin]

India didnt win any toss but they lost not because of that rather because of poor cricket they play in Eng. They won one test despite loosing a toss in which they played good cricket.

Pak despite loosing the toss won a test in Eng in 2016 (2-2 drawn) as well as in 2018 (1-1 drawn).

Toss is important in test cricket anywhere in the world, batting first gives you a slightly better chance in most conditions but only if you have capability to play good cricket. You can win tests despite loosing a toss as well and that too anywhere in the world if you perform well.

Any Indian fan saying that toss makes a difference in Eng and you cant win without winning a toss is just making an excuse and nothing else.

Indian fans always use the same argument again and again but conveniently forget when they used to dish up rank turners, how advantageous it was for the team batting first on dust bowls that would deteriorate rapidly.

 

[the Great Khan]

Another 173 runs needed here from pakistan.

start duas brothers

 

[the Great Khan]

Do you really believe Wasim Khan? The guy is all talk but select garbage in our setup. He is n PCB because of his self promote tall/positive/fake future planning talk.

he will be judged on his objectives and whether he has met them. As of now he has met them by and large.

 

[the Great Khan]

Indian fans always use the same argument again and again but conveniently forget when they used to dish up rank turners, how advantageous it was for the team batting first on dust bowls that would deteriorate rapidly.

it was generally known that if you win the toss in India more than likely you had a bigger chance of winning the match. If somebody can pull out some stats that would be good.

 

[topspin]

Do you really believe Wasim Khan? The guy is all talk but select garbage in our setup. He is n PCB because of his self promote tall/positive/fake future planning talk.

It depends who was behind Misbah's appointment. If it wasn't Wasim Khan's appointment then I genuinely believe he will serve Pakistan cricket well. Otherwise, I agree with you.

I still believe PCB were given orders to appoint Misbah from Imran Khan.

 

[Kroll]

Pakistan need to score at little more brisk pace , 127 runs ahead now.

Not at all, so much time left, take it easy, be relaxed and the runs will come just like the in the 1st innings.

 

[Kashur_Kalkharab]

Good job by these two until now... Anything around 180 in this innings should be the aim.
England doesn't have a threatening spin option, thus Pakistan just need to be lil patients here until the ball gets lil olders. It's gonna get absolutely easy for them... Need to see off the new ball.

 

[topspin]

LOL so Stokes can't bowl, scored a duck and now dropped a catch.


Greatest alrounder in the world

I wish the likes of Aamer Yamin, Faheem Ashraf, Ammad Butt and etc were even half as good as Stokes.

 

[Omer2002]

How can you say 200 is enough when their tail all wagged and as nasser just said we have three number 11s

 

[the Great Khan]

Batting becoming easier

England heads are down

dua kur Rana!! Dua!!

 

[Yk313]

Make or break session, but then all of have been like that I guess...

 

[Yk313]

dua kur Rana!! Dua!!

Hahaha yes sirr

 

[Justcrazy]

Pakistan batsmen out after Tea , the game to to start.

 

[Justcrazy]

Four Four

Azhar gets off the pair.

 

[topspin]

Go on Azhar!

OOO Kill'em!!!

 

[Mueez]

That’s more like it Azhar! Come on Skipper you are better than this!

 

[Amjid Javed]

Two fours for Azhar

 

[sweep_shot]

England need to hold on to their catches if they want to come back to the game. Their fielding has been embarrassing lately.

 

[Yk313]

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[the Great Khan]

Pakistan batsmen out after Tea , the game to to start.

yaar aysi baatein mut kuro..lol (mentioning out)

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

Azhar just need to middle a few ....

 

[Omer Baloch]

Just sayin, Azhar Ali's drives are very underrated.

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

40 odd from both of them and we are in ...

 

[castortroy]

Don't let Archer get into a spell here

 

[sweep_shot]

Lead is now worth 135 runs.

Pakistan ideally need 300 but 250 should be enough.

 

[castortroy]

Woakes is always the concern against us

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

40 odd from both of them and we are in ...

If Azhar gets in he is usually hard to shift.

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

yes .... singles.

 

[Yk313]

Jofra Jeff Thompson Archer steaming in matching Abbas pace for pace (hope he doesn’t go berserk now lol).

 

[Firebat]

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Don't mention it

 

[Amjid Javed]

Just need to bat solidly here.

 

[Mueez]

Jofra Jeff Thompson Archer steaming in matching Abbas pace for pace (hope he doesn’t go berserk now lol).

I see what you did there - so much for being an express bowler.

You’ll see him at its best at the IPL or any other T20 league.

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

If Azhar gets in he is usually hard to shift.

like any good batsman ...

 

[sweep_shot]

I see what you did there - so much for being an express bowler.

You’ll see him at its best at the IPL or any other T20 league.

Archer is a T20 hack. I have said it before.

He doesn't belong in Test.

I would've played Curran or even Wood.

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

scoring rate is low ... as long as we dont lose wickets.

 

[Mueez]

Archer is a T20 hack. I have said it before.

He doesn't belong in Test.

I would've played Curran or even Wood.

Yeah think he is more suited to LOs than Tests. Or maybe he chooses when to perform like Amir.

 

[Syed1]

I wish the likes of Aamer Yamin, Faheem Ashraf, Ammad Butt and etc were even half as good as Stokes.

Obviously, he is in a different league to them. Stokes is not having as good of a game as is expected of him.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Nasser Hussain thinks Abid Ali's technique is perfect for facing seam bowling.

 

[Mueez]

There is plenty of time to play today.

Pakistan must look scoring at least another 80-100 runs in the remaining overs.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Obviously, he is in a different league to them. Stokes is not having as good of a game as is expected of him.

He'll be back, Pakistan will need to make sure they nail this win, you can expect the likes of Stokes to have an impact at some point.

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

Jharoo pherne ka time .......

 

[Amjid Javed]

33/1

Lead 140. Another 160 needed.

 

[sweep_shot]

England brought in Bess. LOL.

Bess is a harmless bowler.

 

[Major]

lol, they are bringing in spin?

 

[castortroy]

What a atrocious shot

Drop this guy for the next test

That is truely pathetic

 

[Zeshan547]

wt eff was that Abid, get outta here u fool,

 

[shamaan]

What a poor shot

 

[sweep_shot]

England brought in Bess. LOL.

Bess is a harmless bowler.

Spoke too soon!

Bess gets a wicket.

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

ooppsss......

 

[Justcrazy]

Out

Abid Ali gone.

 

[hb787]

Poor shot

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Pakistan throwing away the advantage of the 107 run lead.

 

[castortroy]

Thats a complete give away

 

[sweep_shot]

Pakistan are effectively 140/2.

 

[Markhor]

Atrocious shot from Abid. This is not UAE or Pakistan.

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

to early to sweep ....

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Oh Abid Ali might have given away a hundred here. Poor stuff.

 

[neonoir]

Absolutely dreadful shot no need he was playing well and just throws his wicket away.

Could be the start of a collapse

 

[Mueez]

Pathetic shot.

 

[Omer2002]

Thats 2 gifts to england...as expected just cant handle pressure

 

[Amjid Javed]

Brain **** by Abid.

33/2

 

[castortroy]

2 more wickets and England are right into this

 

[gibsyhesperis]

Somewhat brainless from Abid

 

[Major]

what an idiot. that was soo stupid

 

[Titan24]

Whole leg side was clear and he played the shot straight to Woakes. Shot was fine but execution was terrible.

 

[Fahdi]

I don't think sweeping was a bad idea but it was poorly executed. Needs lessons with Younis Khan.

A bit of luck for Azhar there.

 

[castortroy]

If babar goes cheaply here we are doomed

 

[Major]

taht wicket he threw away just lost my interest from the match.

its one thing to lose your wicket to a good ball, but to throw it away like that

 

[castortroy]

I don't think sweeping was a bad idea but it was poorly executed. Needs lessons with Younis Khan.

A bit of luck for Azhar there.

He was unsettled by the delivery before

 

[IAJ]

These pakistani batsmen keep repeating same mistakes. He knows there is a man for exact that shot and he gave him the gift.