Pakistan has the best ODI pace attack in the world

[Fenrir]

Play Shaheen as a bowling all rounder, get Ihsanullah in for Nawaz.

Shaheen
Naseem
Rauf
Ihsanullah

Lawd have mercy

Ihsanullah missed the hundred in England due to injury to his arm.I hope he recovers before the World Cup.It may be a gamble but I will rather have Ihsanullah than Faheem.

 

[Aman]

Not looking off numbers but it's Aus for me.

Pakistan only really have Afridi who is among the best bowlers in the world. Rauf isn't consistent and Naseem is even more inconsistent.

 

[Firebat]

Not looking off numbers but it's Aus for me.

Pakistan only really have Afridi who is among the best bowlers in the world. Rauf isn't consistent and Naseem is even more inconsistent.

You can't talk about consistency if you're not looking off numbers. Unless you mean consistency within a match/spell/over.

 

[Aman]

You can't talk about consistency if you're not looking off numbers. Unless you mean consistency within a match/spell/over.

I'm judging purely off how they perform when I watch them.

 

[Major]

Not looking off numbers but it's Aus for me.

Pakistan only really have Afridi who is among the best bowlers in the world. Rauf isn't consistent and Naseem is even more inconsistent.

Naseem isn't inconsistent, I fact he is the most consistent bowler.

Naseem doesn't bowl wicket to wicket. He bowls in the offside area where the batters can take a risk and throw their wicket or just leave him to survive. He is very consistent

 

[hitthestump]

The good thing about the India game is that we have learned that 4 pacers is going to be the way to go for us.

The bad thing is that it is way too late in the day to really explore our options on this matter.

Ihsanullah and Zaman Khan are way undercooked. Faheem and Mohammad Wasim aren't much better than Nawaz. None of the alternatives seem that great.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Naseem isn't inconsistent, I fact he is the most consistent bowler.

Naseem doesn't bowl wicket to wicket. He bowls in the offside area where the batters can take a risk and throw their wicket or just leave him to survive. He is very consistent

Naseem effectively builds pressure on one end by maintaining a tight line and length thereby creating opportunities for other bowlers to secure wickets.

 

[controversial_man]

what about aamir jamal . he can be an x factor i am surprised pakistan think tank did not consider any spinner as back ups.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

what about aamir jamal . he can be an x factor i am surprised pakistan think tank did not consider any spinner as back ups.

Indeed, Amir Jamal is a promising all-rounder, but I believe it might be premature to include him in the national side without any prior international experience. I think we should consider Faheem Ashraf, who has shown significant improvement as a bowler and can offer some strength towards the end of the innings.

 

[mominsaigol]

Not looking off numbers but it's Aus for me.

Pakistan only really have Afridi who is among the best bowlers in the world. Rauf isn't consistent and Naseem is even more inconsistent.

Lol naseem is our best bowler, what are you talking about? The only man who didn't go for runs on a batting paradise pitch in the NZ series is inconsistent.

Naseem is the king of bowling line and length, Theirs a reason why he's economical + ends up taking 2 or 3 wickets per game.

 

[mominsaigol]

Indeed, Amir Jamal is a promising all-rounder, but I believe it might be premature to include him in the national side without any prior international experience. I think we should consider Faheem Ashraf, who has shown significant improvement as a bowler and can offer some strength towards the end of the innings.

Faheem ashraf should never have been Included. Ihsanullah or Zaman in his place, that's it.

 

[mominsaigol]

I completely agree with this. Ihsanullah is a lot more refined than Rauf was when he debuted. He just needs to hit the hard length more often and use the short ball more as a surprise ball than a stock one. This is where Morne Morkel needs to do some work and I think he will. His ceiling is higher than Rauf's in all formats of the game and I'm also a fan of Rauf's efforts.

Zaman is a good bowler but he is frankly a one-dimensional bowler more suited to t20 cricket. I'm sure he'll get his chances too and he should but Ihsanullah is very obviously a much more exciting prospect. I even rate Arshad Iqbal above him when it comes to tests and ODIs.

How is zaman Khan one dimensional? Since when was consistently bowling unplayable dipping yorkers and perfect bouncers one dimensional? By this logic Glenn mcgrath and malinga were one dimensional because Glenn kept bowling the same tight line and length and malinga kept bowling wicket to wicket and yorkers lol.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Not looking off numbers but it's Aus for me.

Pakistan only really have Afridi who is among the best bowlers in the world. Rauf isn't consistent and Naseem is even more inconsistent.

bro naseem is the most consistent bowler in the team right now.. he is accurate with his line and legth also bowls with consistent pace.

 

[controversial_man]

Indeed, Amir Jamal is a promising all-rounder, but I believe it might be premature to include him in the national side without any prior international experience. I think we should consider Faheem Ashraf, who has shown significant improvement as a bowler and can offer some strength towards the end of the innings.

he looks to me someone who knows how to bowl length and line and not to leak runs. Can not be worse than current spinners. if I were inzi I would send him in as a replacement . we should stick with one specialised spinner either pick nawaz or shahzeb khan . probably looks to me the only fast bowler who seems to have brains.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

How is zaman Khan one dimensional? Since when was consistently bowling unplayable dipping yorkers and perfect bouncers one dimensional? By this logic Glenn mcgrath and malinga were one dimensional because Glenn kept bowling the same tight line and length and malinga kept bowling wicket to wicket and yorkers lol.

Bowlers with a slingy action often find success. Just consider the Sri Lankan bowler Parithana as an example.

 

[Aman]

bro naseem is the most consistent bowler in the team right now.. he is accurate with his line and legth also bowls with consistent pace.

From what I've seen, he's hit or miss performance wise.

And I'm not taking those 3 over an attack of Starc (probably the GOAT ODI bower), Hazlewood and Cummins.

As an all round attack Pakistan is definitely better. As a pace unit, only Shaeen is elite.

 

[Farabi]

Play Shaheen as a bowling all rounder, get Ihsanullah in for Nawaz.

Shaheen
Naseem
Rauf
Ihsanullah

Lawd have mercy

“Playing Shaheen as a bowling allrounder” will not make him one. A true bowling allrounder is someone like Razzak or Afridi 3.0. Shaheen Afridi is a glorified tail ender right now. But that shouldn’t stop us from playing 4 pacers, if tail starts from 8, so be it.

 

[Theo_14]

How can you say we have the best bowling line up in the world when we don’t even have a complete bowling attack? Yes we have seamers and express pace bowlers but that simply isn’t enough, you need at least one wicket taking spinner which we have lacked for a very long time.

It’s very concerning that since the likes of Saqlain/Mushtaq we have only produced a few spinners that have good enough but not close enough to them.

 

[Farabi]

From what I've seen, he's hit or miss performance wise.

And I'm not taking those 3 over an attack of Starc (probably the GOAT ODI bower), Hazlewood and Cummins.

As an all round attack Pakistan is definitely better. As a pace unit, only Shaeen is elite.

How is Pakistan better as an all round attack when Aus has Zampa?
Ide argue that Aus has a better spin attack with Zampa and Maxwell.

That said, on current forum, the pace trio is at least at par in ODIs.
Cummins is not the same force in ODIs. Starc is over the hill now. Hazelwood is a gun ODI bowler on current form.
In Indo-Pak conditions, I’d take Pak pace trio every day of the week. They outperformed Aussie trio in the recent T20 WC in their own backyard.

 

[Farabi]

Ihsanullah missed the hundred in England due to injury to his arm.I hope he recovers before the World Cup.It may be a gamble but I will rather have Ihsanullah than Faheem.

Is Ihsanullah fit?

 

[Farah Sohail]

The good thing about the India game is that we have learned that 4 pacers is going to be the way to go for us.

The bad thing is that it is way too late in the day to really explore our options on this matter.

Ihsanullah and Zaman Khan are way undercooked. Faheem and Mohammad Wasim aren't much better than Nawaz. None of the alternatives seem that great.

Are your sure, our management has learnt this lesson, to go with 4 pacers? I really doubt it.. they will still go with same old formula…of 3 pacers and 2 spinners

Although as 4th seamer, Wasim Jnr is good option..he can take wickets in the middle and is great at death overs…

 

[BunnyRabbit]

We just need a proper seam bowling allrounder [a good seam bowler who can actually bat at 7 or 8] not Fahim or Wasim. Our bowling attack would be perfect then.

Nawaz' bowling form is concerning now. It's been a year since that Ind vs Pak match and he hasn't recovered from it.

 

[Rana]

Wasim Akram was a master at making the best use of his 4th seamer (Abdul Razzaq or Azhar Mahmood). He knew how to make one of the two useful with the bat in the top 6.

Aamer Jamal for me can be the 4th seamer but Babar needs to trust him to bat in the top. Maybe even use him to open the innings with Fakhar or Imam and drop everyone down one spot. That way you can drop Nawaz and then use Salman or Iftikhar to be the extra spinner

 

[Rana]

This is why I hate Babar for his poor planning in the build up to tournaments. The lack of experimentation is so evident.

The selectors picked Jamal for Babar to cultivate into the pace bowling all rounder but the guy got 2 games against England in the 7 match series, and Babar batted him at 9 in both games.

Babar has such a pathetic lack of vision it’s unreal! It’s like the guy never ever watched cricket in his life and just played all the time, and walked into international cricket

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Wasim Akram was a master at making the best use of his 4th seamer (Abdul Razzaq or Azhar Mahmood). He knew how to make one of the two useful with the bat in the top 6.

Aamer Jamal for me can be the 4th seamer but Babar needs to trust him to bat in the top. Maybe even use him to open the innings with Fakhar or Imam and drop everyone down one spot. That way you can drop Nawaz and then use Salman or Iftikhar to be the extra spinner

Amir Jamal as an openner? are u serious bro?

 

[Rana]

Amir Jamal as an openner? are u serious bro?

Yeah I am

Wasim Akram used to bat Razzaq at 3

 

[Zeshan547]

Amir Jamal as an openner? are u serious bro?

Rana g and his fantasies, i will give you most out of the box thinker on PP. it's not out of the box it's out of mind actually. On serous note I agree Jamal is atleast better option than both Faheem and Nawaz. And is good enough as batter for number 8 position. Even though Wasim Jr is better than both as bowler but our batting can't afford four number XI pacers. Even though it's tempting. They all can hit few blows but still can't trust them with bat.

 

[ChTab]

The Pakistani pace attack is good but very overrated, Aus still has a better pace attack than Pakistan.

 

[Marooned]

From what I've seen, he's hit or miss performance wise.

And I'm not taking those 3 over an attack of Starc (probably the GOAT ODI bower), Hazlewood and Cummins.

As an all round attack Pakistan is definitely better. As a pace unit, only Shaeen is elite.

Big names but aus attack is one dimensional.

Pak attack is more complete with a bigger repertoire of skills.

 

[MenInG]

Dinesh Karthik:

"Shaheen, Haris Rauf and Naseem can bowl 90-plus consistently and all three are very different. Shaheen Shah, obviously the left arm, has an angle to it and brings the ball back in, Naseem Shah swings the ball both ways.

"Haris is arguably one of the best bowlers right now at the back end of an inning because of his skid and the nasty bouncer that he's got,"

 

[VForVendetta]

Other than India this trio hasn't yet performed against a top dog or should I say they were deprived of that opportunity since SENA teams have continuously played their B/C teams since 19 wc. Of course it's not the players' fault but PCB who are so inept & miserable that they have led themselves to be bullied & never protested or asked these boards to send their best eleven. So based on that I'll still go with the Aussie trio. However world cup can change all & indeed establish the Pak attack as the undisputed best.

 

[Ali T]

Best in the world I'm not sure, but this is by far the best bowling fast bowling attack we've had in a while. The world cup will be a good test.

I would say that we do have a good balance in terms of a right and left combo upfront and also decent death bowling in Rauf.

I remember Wasim being able to clean up the tail at the back end of an innings which is something Rauf and also Naseem have the ability to do.

Wasim had the advantage of only using one ball in an inning so he could reverse swing, but Naseem does seem to get some movement. Honestly no idea why he's not rated on PP.

 

[Third Man]

How is zaman Khan one dimensional? Since when was consistently bowling unplayable dipping yorkers and perfect bouncers one dimensional? By this logic Glenn mcgrath and malinga were one dimensional because Glenn kept bowling the same tight line and length and malinga kept bowling wicket to wicket and yorkers lol.

How many yorkers and bouncers are you going to bowl in 10 overs? All of them? He is one dimensional in that he's short, can't swing the new ball and his length ball is cannon fodder without reverse. Good for 4 overs in T20 and that's where he should stay. You make him sound like he's the 2nd coming of Malcolm Marshall.

 

[mominsaigol]

How many yorkers and bouncers are you going to bowl in 10 overs? All of them? He is one dimensional in that he's short, can't swing the new ball and his length ball is cannon fodder without reverse. Good for 4 overs in T20 and that's where he should stay. You make him sound like he's the 2nd coming of Malcolm Marshall.

Malinga was succesful in his prime but doing it consistently and zaman bowls wicket to wicket. He's better then faheem period.

 

[gazza619]

Pakistan should either boost the fast bowling by dropping Nawaz for M Waseem or boost the batting by dropping Nawaz for M Haris.

Notice there is a constant. Nawaz has to be dropped.

 

[shamaan]

Not looking off numbers but it's Aus for me.

Pakistan only really have Afridi who is among the best bowlers in the world. Rauf isn't consistent and Naseem is even more inconsistent.

Naseem is inconsistent in what?

 

[shamaan]

The good thing about the India game is that we have learned that 4 pacers is going to be the way to go for us.

The bad thing is that it is way too late in the day to really explore our options on this matter.

Ihsanullah and Zaman Khan are way undercooked. Faheem and Mohammad Wasim aren't much better than Nawaz. None of the alternatives seem that great.

Wasim Jnr is way better than Fahim as a bowler and has very good stats.

 

[shamaan]

Lol naseem is our best bowler, what are you talking about? The only man who didn't go for runs on a batting paradise pitch in the NZ series is inconsistent.

Naseem is the king of bowling line and length, Theirs a reason why he's economical + ends up taking 2 or 3 wickets per game.

That's pretty good 3 wickets especially if he's keeping the runs down.

 

[Third Man]

Malinga was succesful in his prime but doing it consistently and zaman bowls wicket to wicket. He's better then faheem period.

Most certainly. That goes without saying.

 

[mominsaigol]

Most certainly. That goes without saying.

What I'm saying is, faheem needs to be replaced by a proper pacer, cause faheem ain't the all rounder that people think he is.

Add in ihsanullah, zaman Khan, arshad iqbal, whoever .

But remove faheem.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

What I'm saying is, faheem needs to be replaced by a proper pacer, cause faheem ain't the all rounder that people think he is.

Add in ihsanullah, zaman Khan, arshad iqbal, whoever .

But remove faheem.

In that particular position we require an all rounder who can maintain a higher strike rate with the bat at the end of the inning as otherwise our tail would commence from the eighth position.

 

[Bewal Express]

On their day PK, Ind, Aus or Saffer can claim to be the best. Aus with the big 3 and Green will keep the pressure on, Ind with Bumrah( if he is fit), Shami and Siraj will be a danger to most batting lineups, Saffers with Nortje, Rabada( although he looks to be on his last legs and shows no passion) and Jansen will be a handful. And then there is us with SSA getting closer to full fitness, Naseem bowling with good pace and movement and Rauf bowling with pure pace, will be a handful to all batsman.

 

[Firebat]

I'm judging purely off how they perform when I watch them.

You won't look at numbers and you don't watch that many Pakistan games, so once again you can't judge their consistency.

 

[Rana]

If England can somehow get Wood, Archer and Saqib Mahmood to combine…that would be a great bowling trio

 

[Cricket Warrior]

best attck for top 3 yes but for middle overs ita a serious concer for both batting and bowling.

 

[MenInG]

And once again, what a performance in such harsh conditions

 

[controversial_man]

Not yet. Pakistan needs another fast bowler allounder i am surprised that aamir jamal is not there. Pakistan can not stop leaking runs from shahdab he is the weakling. we need another player not fahim seems like in pakistan dhost yaari counts a lot. i think shahdab is good friends with captain...pakistan team must come first over individuals.

 

[MenInG]

Former Pakistan speedster Shoaib Akhtar on Thursday said the team's current pace attack reminds him of the era of the great pair of Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis.

Pakistan boast one of the world's best fast-bowling attacks in Shaheen Shah Afridi, Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf.

The trio has taken 23 wickets between them in the first three matches of the ongoing Asia Cup co-hosted by Pakistan and Sri Lanka, a precursor to next month's one-day international World Cup in India.

Left-arm pacer Shaheen rattled the Indian top order last week in a group match that was abandoned due to rain after just one innings and remains a threat ahead of a key Super Four clash between the arch-rivals on Sunday.

"These youngsters are very, very talented and I am happy that Pakistan is able to produce such fast bowlers over and over again," Akhtar said in an online chat organised by Star Sports.

"This pace battery reminds me of the old days... reminds me of that era of two Ws (Waqar and Wasim). They are very confident and have the mindset of taking wickets."

Wasim and Waqar took over 900 ODI wickets between them, striking fear into the hearts of opposing batsmen with their lightning-fast reverse swing deliveries.

Shaheen leads the charge with new-ball partner Naseem, but it is first-change Rauf who tops the Asia Cup bowling chart with nine wickets.

Pakistan thrashed Bangladesh in the opening match of the Super Fours in Lahore on Wednesday with Rauf returning 4-19 from his six overs.

"I would say Shaheen Shah Afridi is on top of his career right now. Haris Rauf has a wicket-taking mindset like Shaheen," said Akhtar, who later joined Pakistan's pace attack alongside Wasim and Waqar.

"I would just advise Naseem to bowl more wicket-taking deliveries than be a stock bowler. He seams the ball more than Shaheen and can penetrate more."

Pakistan has had a history of producing great fast bowlers including Fazal Mahmood, Sarfraz Nawaz and World Cup-winning captain Imran Khan.

Akhtar said Pakistan remain favourites to win the Asia Cup and the World Cup starting October 5 and predicted Babar Azam's team will topple India in both tournaments.

AFP

 

[MenInG]

Sunil Gavaskar, in a conversation with India Today,

At one point of time it was Australia and Pakistan probably shared that number 1 and number 2 spot because Pakistan have always had top-class new-ball bowlers. But at this point of time, they have the most lethal new-ball attack in the game,"

“They have a left-arm, right-arm combination. They can move the ball both ways at good pace. So, it’s not easy for any batter to get aggressive against them from the word go,"

 

[chinaman00]

Pakistan does not have the best bowling attack. Not even close. Yes, Shaheen, Naseem & Rauf are good bowlers, but once they get hit few times, they lose their mind and start bowling rubbish. Virat Kohli’s assault on them during the last T20 World Cup is fresh in everyone’s minds.

The hype machine around them will come down to earth during the World Cup. Mark this space.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Not looking off numbers but it's Aus for me.

Pakistan only really have Afridi who is among the best bowlers in the world. Rauf isn't consistent and Naseem is even more inconsistent.

Nonsense. It's the best pace attack out there. And they are not only quick but they're more consistent than most Pakistani attacks I've seen.

More celebrated Pakistani attacks have been quick but lost the plot while over-attacking and been hammered in crucial matches. This trio is simply getting better. They attack upfront but if that doesn't work, they are smart enough to pull their lengths back and straighten their lines and force batsmen into errors instead.

That is why this attack is scary. I've never seen a Pakistani attack with speed, skill and smarts for LOI bowling like these 3.

Earlier Pakistani attacks would have kept bowling full at the stumps even where there is no swing or kept bowling short against good players of short bowling and would have lost matches in the space of a few overs. This lot can attack and are willing to be defensive and restrictive as well.

Australia's aged, worn out attack is no match pace wise . They have declined and Jhye, Stanlake etc. have not been developed as replacements.

 

[Usman Chadda]

They are good, but not the best. Australia have the better bowling attack, both in terms of skill and experience.

Hazlewood, Starc and Cummins is a formidable pace bowling line-up. Pace, seam and swing, everything is there and they have delivered day-in day-out at the international level.

Our boys might get there some day, but we are easily second best pace bowling attack in the World Cup.

We might be the fastest pace attack though, despite Shaheen not at his best.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Shoaib Akhtar heaps praise on Pakistan’s pace battery.

“Obviously, these youngsters are very, very talented. I am very happy that Pakistan is able to produce such fast bowlers over and over again. I don’t know what the reason is. First, there used to be a lot of fast bowlers from Punjab. Now, there is one from Rawalpindi, and two are Pathans. And the Pathans are very, very rugged and tough,”

“This pace battery reminds me of the old days. One of the best fast bowlers in the world right now, I would say, is Shaheen Shah Afridi. He is on top of his career right now. Haris Rauf has the same mindset again to take wickets. Even Shaheen Shah has the same mindset,

“If we talk about Naseem Shah, I have sent a message to him and his brother as well, to take more wicket-taking deliveries rather than to be a stock bowler. So, I think the message has been conveyed, to make him a wicket-taking bowler; he is not a stock bowler. He seams the ball more, even more than Shaheen, and he can penetrate even further. I think this trio is one of the best pace batteries,

“You know how dangerous Pakistan are with the new ball. Over and over, they have proven that we can get people out, very simple. So yes, this reminds me of the era of the two W’s, but again having said that, they are very confident.

“Ever since they are playing as a pace battery, their mindset is very entertaining, which is to take wickets, not worried about the runs.

“Haris Rauf leaks runs, but it’s fine with me. Just go out there and take wickets. I allow you as a fast bowler to give away 70 runs but as long as you are getting those four wickets, that’s all that matters to me,

“I do feel that we are lacking one spinner,” he said. “Shadab is very, very good. Leg spin is a difficult art. Every day is different, some days it doesn’t work out as well because of factors such as your wrist or fingers or shoulder, hip rotation as well. So, a lot of factors have to go right for a leg-spinner to bowl well and in a good rhythm.

“I think Pakistan are also missing a bowling all-rounder.”

“Pakistan will land in India as the favorites,” he said. “I will be very honest with you. And Asia Cup at the same time, I think they are one of the favorites. And India and Pakistan are the two teams playing in the subcontinent, beating India in India is going to be the most impossible thing, but beating Pakistan in India in the subcontinent, it’s going to be a close to impossible thing because both teams have a good pace battery.

“One has a great pace battery actually, spinners are good as well, and both teams have the confidence. The batting unit which Pakistan has, earlier they looked fragile.

“But now, the elevation that they have got in their batting, they look like a very settled squad. It feels like they can bat and chase scores down. They won’t get out that easily; they look composed to chase down scores. So, I think it looks like a good team.”

The Indian Express

 

[amax]

Nonsense. It's the best pace attack out there. And they are not only quick but they're more consistent than most Pakistani attacks I've seen.

More celebrated Pakistani attacks have been quick but lost the plot while over-attacking and been hammered in crucial matches. This trio is simply getting better. They attack upfront but if that doesn't work, they are smart enough to pull their lengths back and straighten their lines and force batsmen into errors instead.

That is why this attack is scary. I've never seen a Pakistani attack with speed, skill and smarts for LOI bowling like these 3.

Earlier Pakistani attacks would have kept bowling full at the stumps even where there is no swing or kept bowling short against good players of short bowling and would have lost matches in the space of a few overs. This lot can attack and are willing to be defensive and restrictive as well.

Australia's aged, worn out attack is no match pace wise . They have declined and Jhye, Stanlake etc. have not been developed as replacements.

also work ethics and professionalism is very different from "talent" of the past, which as you said lost the plot on critical occasions and hence never reached the level of potential.

 

[Mercurial]

Hold on a moment. Let's wait for them to win a tournament before we label them as the world's best bowling attack.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Australia have a better attack (Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood etc.).

Pakistani attack is 2nd best in the world possibly.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Best pace attack for a reason. Odi stats from 2023 showing the same.

 

[MenInG]

Shubman Gill speaking in a presser today

"When you are playing at this level, you play left-armer pacers previously at some point of your career. We do not play Pakistan that much as compared to the other sides. They have a quality bowling attack. When you do not face such a bowling attack frequently and are not used to it, it makes a difference."

 

[kron]

Shubman Gill speaking in a presser today

"When you are playing at this level, you play left-armer pacers previously at some point of your career. We do not play Pakistan that much as compared to the other sides. They have a quality bowling attack. When you do not face such a bowling attack frequently and are not used to it, it makes a difference."

Sure. Pakistan also don't get to play against players like Gill so this excuse of not getting a chance to play against high quality bowlers doesn't equate to him not having holes in his game. Shaheen exposed him thoroughly. Not just him, rohit and virat have faced shaheen quite a few times and post 2019 things have clearly changed.

 

[kron]

I think Australia have a better attack (Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood etc.).

Pakistani attack is 2nd best in the world possibly.

Not in odi. Cummins has been a passenger for a while now. Starc is declining and hazlewood yes is still at his peak. Overall as a unit Pakistan appear to be better suited for Asian conditions.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I have just two words - Janbaaz & Zindadil

Absolutely loving this bowling unit. They will light up the World Cup and make it worth watching.

Pakistan matches are going to be pure fire.

 

[MenInG]

Mohammad Rizwan speaking to journalists

"Our fast bowlers have played a crucial role in taking us to the No.1 spot. And the three fast bowlers we are talking about, they are not just going to pose difficulty for the Indian top-order but for every team. They are gifted bowlers. And if you look at our bench strength, that is also very good and that is why we have risen to the top"

 

[kron]

Mohammad Rizwan speaking to journalists

"Our fast bowlers have played a crucial role in taking us to the No.1 spot. And the three fast bowlers we are talking about, they are not just going to pose difficulty for the Indian top-order but for every team. They are gifted bowlers. And if you look at our bench strength, that is also very good and that is why we have risen to the top"

Good to see praise given and workload being correctly managed.
Youth development is key.
Having different skillsets also helps. All 3 bowlers offer variety which is key. Batsmen will never be set and at ease.

 

[CricVet]

Mohammad Rizwan speaking to journalists

"Our fast bowlers have played a crucial role in taking us to the No.1 spot. And the three fast bowlers we are talking about, they are not just going to pose difficulty for the Indian top-order but for every team. They are gifted bowlers. And if you look at our bench strength, that is also very good and that is why we have risen to the top"

Not only that, we have some reserves in the pace department waiting for a chance.

Even England, AU, and SA fast bowling for the first time I see behind Pak tripple pace threat in ODIs/T20s - future of the cricket.

 

[mominsaigol]

Pakistan does not have the best bowling attack. Not even close. Yes, Shaheen, Naseem & Rauf are good bowlers, but once they get hit few times, they lose their mind and start bowling rubbish. Virat Kohli’s assault on them during the last T20 World Cup is fresh in everyone’s minds.

The hype machine around them will come down to earth during the World Cup. Mark this space.

That's a pretty unfair example. Even the best bowling duo in the 90's to early 2000 wasim and waqar had off days. Every cricketer does.

Naseem is on track to becoming a Glenn mcgrath for Pakistan, he's pure line and length woth pace and swing, Theirs a reason he's picked up a wicket in all games he's played.

Shaheen can get tonked but he's always looking for wickets with lethal deliveries and inswing but he's a bit weak in the middle overs.

Haris is a genuine wicket taker in the middle and has the best variation.

They've performed multiple times under pressure and shaheen dismissed kholi extremely early in the last game. Every bowler will have off days. Australia and NZ are contenders but their current forms don't compare to our bowling, however 2019 NZ bowling is > Current Pakistan bowling.

 

[IAJ]

Let’s pray they can get enough rest and keep themselves fit, this is a tough job and bowling at those speeds in the heat in not a joke. Team management needs to take care of them and rotate the bowlers.

 

[Mamoon]

You can’t be serious. Anyone can look when they are allowed to look good.

Our bowlers turn into kittens when attacked. They cannot respond.

I wouldn’t even put them in the top 3 attacks. I would always have more faith in Australia, New Zealand and Indian bowlers to hold their nerve under pressure especially when they are attacked.

When have our bowlers delivered under pressure? Almost never.

 

[chinaman00]

That's a pretty unfair example. Even the best bowling duo in the 90's to early 2000 wasim and waqar had off days. Every cricketer does.

Naseem is on track to becoming a Glenn mcgrath for Pakistan, he's pure line and length woth pace and swing, Theirs a reason he's picked up a wicket in all games he's played.

Shaheen can get tonked but he's always looking for wickets with lethal deliveries and inswing but he's a bit weak in the middle overs.

Haris is a genuine wicket taker in the middle and has the best variation.

They've performed multiple times under pressure and shaheen dismissed kholi extremely early in the last game. Every bowler will have off days. Australia and NZ are contenders but their current forms don't compare to our bowling, however 2019 NZ bowling is > Current Pakistan bowling.

Fair or not, I think the century stand by the Indian bowlers today vindicates my assertion.

They are good but not as good as advertised.

 

[Markhor]

The pacers collectively have the best bowling average since the last WC from all teams which's impossible to achieve without knowing how to bowl when attacked.

The problems begin when they have an off-day - who do you turn to ?

Our frontline "spinner" today averages nearly 40 with the ball since the last WC yet is never held accountable. He has an allergy to playing FC or even domestic List A cricket. But since he's the Golden Boy of management and a friend of the skipper he cannot be touched.

 

[TheSultan]

As I’ve said a few times now. Naseem is the real deal. Rauf is a scatter gun but a wicket taker.

Shaheen is the biggest worry for me. He may be getting some wickets but that zip he’s lost since his injury I fear is going to cost him.

 

[MenInG]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1701302640523587664

 

[bala977]

Still think Pak has one of the best attacks ... really like Rauf and hope he gets to play for Chennai in future IPLs

 

[Grunge101]

They're still amongst the top 2 bowling attacks in the world. It's either them or Australia.

That however doesn't mean that there aren't any issues. Shaheen needs a big reality check.the hype around him in the last 12 months has really gotten to his head. Just after the last Ind-Pak game he was asked which wicket he enjoyed more, Rohit or Kohli, his response was "it doesn't matter to me. All batsmen are the same". Which I thought wouldve been an ok statement if it was impromptu but considering it was a response to a specific question about two of the greats of the modern game, it came off as rude and unneeded.

 

[light]

Malinga was succesful in his prime but doing it consistently and zaman bowls wicket to wicket. He's better then faheem period.

A half-fit Malinga was still better than some of the international fast bowlers playing these days.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

They are still good if not the best, problem is the other trash of a collective 20 overs delivered by Shadab, Nawaz, Faheem, Iftikhar Ahmed, Salman Agha with zero wicket taking ability creates immense pressure on them to deliver everytime and against big teams it will hurt us in the World Cup.

 

[shokz1408]

They are still good if not the best, problem is the other trash of a collective 20 overs delivered by Shadab, Nawaz, Faheem, Iftikhar Ahmed, Salman Agha with zero wicket taking ability creates immense pressure on them to deliver everytime and against big teams it will hurt us in the World Cup.

This. The other 20 overs to bowl is where games will be lost. None of them look like wicket taking bowlers. The idea would be they don’t give too many runs away, but we need players who can actually get wickets and force a result in Pakistan’s favour.

 

[kron]

Noth

They're still amongst the top 2 bowling attacks in the world. It's either them or Australia.

That however doesn't mean that there aren't any issues. Shaheen needs a big reality check.the hype around him in the last 12 months has really gotten to his head. Just after the last Ind-Pak game he was asked which wicket he enjoyed more, Rohit or Kohli, his response was "it doesn't matter to me. All batsmen are the same". Which I thought wouldve been an ok statement if it was impromptu but considering it was a response to a specific question about two of the greats of the modern game, it came off as rude and unneeded.

Nothing wrong with what he said at all??
He doesn't need to give those players respect. Game isn't won by giving respect. It's best we hold some sort of grudge against arch rivals. Not saying to behave like clowns but statements like these are absolutely fine.

 

[hassan918]

With Shaheen, Naseem and Haris, we surely have the best ODI pace attack but not when we have Shaheen, Zaman and Wasim as our Pace trio.

 

[MenInG]

Without Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf, pace attack looks toothless

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Both Zaman and Wasim cant move the new ball and only good at death bowling , should have gone for Arshad Iqbal with the new ball