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New Delhi: Hitting back at Pakistan at United Nations General Assembly (UNGA), India's First Secterary to the UN, Eenam Gambhir on Friday said that the neighbouring country has become a geography synonymous with terror.

Exercising India's right-to-reply, Gambhir said,"Pakistan is now 'Terroristan', with a flourishing industry producing and exporting global terrorism.It is extraordinary that the state which protected Osama Bin Laden and sheltered Mullah Omar should have the gumption to play victim."

Referring to 26/11 mastermind Hafiz Saeed, who is roaming freely in the neighbouring, New Delhi asserted that terrorists thrive in Pakistan and roam its streets with impunity. "World does not need lessons on democracy and human rights from a country whose own situation is charitably described as a failed state," India's First Secterary to the United Nations added.

Gambhir's statement came after Pakistan Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi raked up Kashmir issue and accused India of 'terrorism against Pakistan' at the world body.

"Pakistan must understand that the State of J&K is and will always remain an integral part of India," Eenam Gambhir said.

http://zeenews.india.com/india/paki...s-back-at-pm-shahid-abbasi-at-un-2044476.html
 
India can only talk or create fake sir-ji-kal strikes.
 
Looks like all Gambhir's have something against Pakistan :misbah on the coined term though,very diplomat like :P and unimaginative,should had asked Tharoor for something sophisticated :wg
 
JaDed said:
Looks like all Gambhir's have something against Pakistan :misbah on the coined term though,very diplomat like :P and unimaginative,should had asked Tharoor for something sophisticated :wg
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I'm not a fan of the current PM of Pakistan but have to say he surprised all of us with his choice of words by choosing to call India an aspiring hegemon
 
JaDed said:
Looks like all Gambhir's have something against Pakistan :misbah on the coined term though,very diplomat like :P and unimaginative,should had asked Tharoor for something sophisticated :wg
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She was only replying to the Pak Premier.
 
cricketjoshila said:
1971..........
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1947 - Pakistans creation. India couldn't even stop it's land from tearing apart.

We can talk about events 45 years ago but this speech took place now.

If Pakistan is indeed what the Indians stated at the UN , why dont they do what the US does? Fly drones and capture kill their targets? If India is not capable, then it should clam down the rhetoric?
 
Typically Indian form of 'aggression' have to say

even in trash talk their aggression is reminiscent of a 5 year old's.
 
Ok, Ok, they have no facts and calling us that, what should we call India which we have ample proof of "Rapistan".
 
Majestic_Inzi said:
Ok, Ok, they have no facts and calling us that, what should we call India which we have ample proof of "Rapistan".
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yes we would call them that if the our envoy had the mind of a 5 year old
 
Majestic_Inzi said:
Ok, Ok, they have no facts and calling us that, what should we call India which we have ample proof of "Rapistan".
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Try to say that in front of any organization or any country. You cant do that. Because first people fill laugh and then you will again be targeted for even worst things.
 
UN needs to divide India so we can have peace in the region. They are becoming huge problem as their politicians are advocating for genocide.
 
Indian diss and Indian actions remind me of Bollywood movies, abundance in production of movies to entertain only Indians, rest of the world would watch it if its pirated or free.
 
akki said:
Try to say that in front of any organization or any country. You cant do that. Because first people fill laugh and then you will again be targeted for even worst things.
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Likewise with "Terroristan". Alas, this Gambhir person stooped to the level of a YouTube comments section at the UN. Embarrassing stuff.
 
I Liked the speech given by our PM, said it like it is, if the world is serious about solving 21st century problems then they will listen otherwise every nation will elect modern day hitlers like Donald Trump, Modi and Nethanyahu to look after their own self interests and destroy the whole planet in the process.
 
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KingKhanWC said:
1947 - Pakistans creation. India couldn't even stop it's land from tearing apart.
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India couldn't stop 1947? :yk Was the Indian government in power in 1947 when pakistan was created? If anyone deserves the blame for creation of pakistan then it is the british, we do deserve the credit for 1971 though :srini
 
I can't believe she actually said that. I mean if you had to stoop that low, should've read few youtube fights between Indian and Pakistanis before going there. Could've been more creative with the name.

Embarrassing stuff really. I don't care what Pak PM said, it's not our business to stoop to someone else's low level.

This does nothing to solve the problem of cross-border terrorism other than giving fodder to BJP's mouth-piece channel Republic to gloat how India under Modi is aggressive against Pakistan (on paper, in reality)
 
ToeCrusher2 said:
India couldn't stop 1947? :yk Was the Indian government in power in 1947 when pakistan was created? If anyone deserves the blame for creation of pakistan then it is the british, we do deserve the credit for 1971 though :srini
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Millions died, but you know what lets gloat about how Pak separated from India and India divided Pak into two.

COD generation thinks war is fun and games. :facepalm:
 
I have to remind India that there PM is a terrorist responsible for killing tens of thousands of Muslim's. They are the ones blinding innocent Kashmiris, not us. If they send the likes of Kulbushan then Pakistan and the ISI will not watch in silence. Pakistanis are not apologetic and scared, let that be clearly understood.
 
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PakLFC said:
I have to remind India that there PM is a terrorist responsible for killing tens of thousands of Muslim's. They are the ones blinding innocent Kashmiris, not us. If they send the likes of Kulbushan then Pakistan and the ISI will not watch in silence. Pakistanis are not apologetic and scared, let that be clearly understood.
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why hasnt your representative ever said about modi at any world stage like this till now ? Heard about afghan speech at UN . its was right after india's speech.Go to youtube and enjoy both speeches.
 
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akki said:
why hasnt your representative ever said about modi at any world stage like this till now ? Heard about afghan speech at UN . its was right after india's speech.Go to youtube and enjoy both speeches.
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Because Pak representative are sell outs themselves. Do you want me to show you Karan Thapar humiliating your Modi?. I have heard both speeches with pointing out Indian atrocities in IoK.
 
Another thing is that it is not for Pak to point out Modi killing his own Muslim people. The whole world knows he is a terrorist. His friends like Yogi Adityanath are terrorists as well guilty of making hate speeches. I have never heard even Hafiz Saeed or those India accuses as terrorists making anti Hindu speeches.
 
PakLFC said:
Another thing is that it is not for Pak to point out Modi killing his own Muslim people. The whole world knows he is a terrorist. His friends like Yogi Adityanath are terrorists as well guilty of making hate speeches. I have never heard even Hafiz Saeed or those India accuses as terrorists making anti Hindu speeches.
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acha hahaha so why you bother to point out modi ??? if your pakistani representative never ever said about modi anywhere in the world ?? we talk about hafeez saeed , osamas, mujahideens or talibans or many many more ....who dnt yeah as you said make hate speech, they directly kill people by blasts. and all and we talk about them at all over the world as well. And that's how it should be. If you also believe anything about india , then ypu guys should do the same..we have never hide anything.
 
PakLFC said:
Because Pak representative are sell outs themselves. Do you want me to show you Karan Thapar humiliating your Modi?. I have heard both speeches with pointing out Indian atrocities in IoK.
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karan thapar where at UN ? at which stage karan thapar ? india is the largest democracy in the world. Here people dnt get charged for blasphemy or anything even they criticize religions so karan thapar or anyone can say anything or debate about anything. So dnt bother as there is a lot of difference in both cases.
 
KingKhanWC said:
1947 - Pakistans creation. India couldn't even stop it's land from tearing apart.

We can talk about events 45 years ago but this speech took place now.

If Pakistan is indeed what the Indians stated at the UN , why dont they do what the US does? Fly drones and capture kill their targets? If India is not capable, then it should clam down the rhetoric?
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British India a colony of Great Britain and Republic of India are two different entities.

Indians and Pakistanis were same British Indian subjects.

Read history from authentic books not isi propoganda.

Pakistan PM keeps whining for J and K every year for 65 years.What has Pakistan done?Except lose East Pakistan.
 
PakLFC said:
I have to remind India that there PM is a terrorist responsible for killing tens of thousands of Muslim's. They are the ones blinding innocent Kashmiris, not us. If they send the likes of Kulbushan then Pakistan and the ISI will not watch in silence. Pakistanis are not apologetic and scared, let that be clearly understood.
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Let me remind you that you are not the authority to declare anyone terrorist.But the organisations who actually do have the authority declared Hafiz Saeed OBL Mehsud etc as terrorists and they were or are in Pakistan.

India isnt scared of an Army it has beaten in the past which is less than half its size and many times in financial strength.Thats why Pakistan is reduced to supporting terrorists in India rather than fight a direct war.
 
Muhammad10 said:
Likewise with "Terroristan". Alas, this Gambhir person stooped to the level of a YouTube comments section at the UN. Embarrassing stuff.
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She gave the reply the Pak PMs speech accusing India deserved.Remember Pakistan PMs speech mentioned India more than 10 times.So if Pakistan will try to drag Indias name they will receive apt reply.
 
sjahmed23 said:
I Liked the speech given by our PM, said it like it is, if the world is serious about solving 21st century problems then they will listen otherwise every nation will elect modern day hitlers like Donald Trump, Modi and Nethanyahu to look after their own self interests and destroy the whole planet in the process.
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Other nations will not elect persons according to wishes of Pakistani PM.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Let me remind you that you are not the authority to declare anyone terrorist.But the organisations who actually do have the authority declared Hafiz Saeed OBL Mehsud etc as terrorists and they were or are in Pakistan.

India isnt scared of an Army it has beaten in the past which is less than half its size and many times in financial strength.Thats why Pakistan is reduced to supporting terrorists in India rather than fight a direct war.
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Yes the so called sir-gi-cal strikes showed the mighty strength of the Indian army. All talk no action unfortunately. Keep living in your bollywood fantasy dreams like most Indians do.
 
Like how its being said India is all talk no action,but every year Pak repeats the same in UN as well,on their own.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Thats why Pakistan is reduced to supporting terrorists in India rather than fight a direct war.
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Oh the irony!!
The unrest in Karachi in the 80's, support for Baluchistan terrorists, using Afghanistan as a safe haven to launch a proxy war against Pakistan. Just some examples of Indians dirty games.
Musharaf called you out on it when he addressed a forum in India a few years back. You couldn't answer his allegations to his face but love to play keyboard warriors
 
Absolutely disgraceful for a member of the Govt to use such language against another state. He should have been fired from his job.

I can well imagine some posters here who would be reporting abuse if some ordinary member had used this language against their country.
 
s.h.a.k said:
Yes the so called sir-gi-cal strikes showed the mighty strength of the Indian army. All talk no action unfortunately. Keep living in your bollywood fantasy dreams like most Indians do.
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Surgical strikes didnot happen because Pak Army said so.LOL.

Action was seen in 1971.

Ask your PM to stop whining in UN every year and take Kashmir if he has the guts.
 
Iqbal'sh said:
Oh the irony!!
The unrest in Karachi in the 80's, support for Baluchistan terrorists, using Afghanistan as a safe haven to launch a proxy war against Pakistan. Just some examples of Indians dirty games.
Musharaf called you out on it when he addressed a forum in India a few years back. You couldn't answer his allegations to his face but love to play keyboard warriors
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Mussharaff?You mean the guy who is running from Pakistan as he cant face the court?Let him answer his own countrys court before he asks anyone questions.

Balochistan leaders are is Switzerland and MQM ones in UK.These countries are terror supporters.Right?

What proxy war?Lol.India is a supporter of the recognised govt in Afghanistan.
 
Pakistani PM accused India of Terrorism,War Crimes,Illegal Occupation,Genocide etc etc.What was he expecting in response?
 
MenInG said:
Absolutely disgraceful for a member of the Govt to use such language against another state. He should have been fired from his job.

I can well imagine some posters here who would be reporting abuse if some ordinary member had used this language against their country.
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It's disgraceful but to be fair he's only mirroring the classs of the current BJP government.
 
Poor comments if you read YouTube comments then you'll see such replies from trolls.. Even if she was replying to Pakistani PM's speech she should have been careful in choosing her words.. We can't stoop to the low level of our Pakistani counterparts should maintain standard at global events..
 
Relationship between India and Pakistan won't improve in the near future until Pakistan (army) crackdowns on the terrorist organization in its soil and stops using non state actors to fulfill its objectives.

But then, with Saudi influence and pressure mixed in, the issue is more complicated.

Till then, war of words.

Honestly speaking, I don't see any point in bilateral dialogues between these 2 nations.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Relationship between India and Pakistan won't improve in the near future until Pakistan (army) crackdowns on the terrorist organization in its soil and stops using non state actors to fulfill its objectives.

But then, with Saudi influence and pressure mixed in, the issue is more complicated.

Till then, war of words.

Honestly speaking, I don't see any point in bilateral dialogues between these 2 nations.
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Or until Indian Army stops rerrorism in Kashmir. The real cause of all the mess
 
big_gamer007 said:
Poor comments if you read YouTube comments then you'll see such replies from trolls.. Even if she was replying to Pakistani PM's speech she should have been careful in choosing her words.. We can't stoop to the low level of our Pakistani counterparts should maintain standard at global events..
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Infact you did like always to ptove that you guys are no match to anyone
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Relationship between India and Pakistan won't improve in the near future until Pakistan (army) crackdowns on the terrorist organization in its soil and stops using non state actors to fulfill its objectives.

But then, with Saudi influence and pressure mixed in, the issue is more complicated.

Till then, war of words.

Honestly speaking, I don't see any point in bilateral dialogues between these 2 nations.
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No it won't improve till Kashmir situation is solved. That's the issue that's caused tensions for the last 70 years.

All other issues about cracking down on various groups is all hogwash diverting away from the main issue.
 
Azzurri said:
Infact you did like always to ptove that you guys are no match to anyone
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Not really depends on what context you meant the above statements.. Indian diplomats to the UN have generally been decent over the years, if you talk about online trolling then There is no match for Indian trolls these days the sheer number of people following the sheer herd mentality can cause take over any discussion..
 
90MPH said:
No it won't improve till Kashmir situation is solved. That's the issue that's caused tensions for the last 70 years.

All other issues about cracking down on various groups is all hogwash diverting away from the main issue.
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No offence but Kashmir itself is a hogwash which will always be present in our lifetime.. It's easier for every stakeholder to have an issue like "Kashmir", ultimately people pay the price..
 
90MPH said:
No it won't improve till Kashmir situation is solved. That's the issue that's caused tensions for the last 70 years.

All other issues about cracking down on various groups is all hogwash diverting away from the main issue.
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Kashmir issue won't be solved in the current way too.

In the name of getting Kashmir, things have gone out of control and its hurting Pakistan only.
 
90MPH said:
No it won't improve till Kashmir situation is solved. That's the issue that's caused tensions for the last 70 years.

All other issues about cracking down on various groups is all hogwash diverting away from the main issue.
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Lets assume there is a problem in Kashmir as Pakistan claims.Its between Kashmiris and India.Why is Pakistan interfering?Pakistan officially doesnt claim Kashmir as its territory either.So what is Pakistans locus standi?

The hogwash is Pakistan trying to portray terrorists as freedom fighters and Terrorism as a freedom struggle.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Kashmir issue won't be solved in the current way too.

In the name of getting Kashmir, things have gone out of control and its hurting Pakistan only.
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What's the current way ??

You need to think outside the Indian media or government propaganda line. It's your army, so called security services and the policy in general that has made the Kashmir issue a bad one. There is a reason nearly the whole population resents Indian rule.

Blaming Pakistan for everything is an easy cop out and the idea that by blaming the alleged funding and support of pro Kashmir militants groups will make everything rosy is a load of nonsense. It's going to take a progmatic step.

Mushy and Vajpayee actually were very close to resolving it but the latter bottled it because of the ramifications from his own party.

At least though he had the balls to discuss it - something I don't ever see this current Indian PM doing. He's all
Loud mouth for the media.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
She gave the reply the Pak PMs speech accusing India deserved.Remember Pakistan PMs speech mentioned India more than 10 times.So if Pakistan will try to drag Indias name they will receive apt reply.
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We all know you would (understandably) be crying foul if India had been called something like "Lynchistan". It wouldn't be so idiotic if she had responded to Abbasi's speech in a mature manner, but this name-calling is childish, embarrassing and highly offensive.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Lets assume there is a problem in Kashmir as Pakistan claims.Its between Kashmiris and India.Why is Pakistan interfering?Pakistan officially doesnt claim Kashmir as its territory either.So what is Pakistans locus standi?

The hogwash is Pakistan trying to portray terrorists as freedom fighters and Terrorism as a freedom struggle.
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because Pakistan can.
 
Its not only the kashmir issue, Kulbhushan yaduv is living proof of Indian involvement in baluchistan.

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Lonewarrior said:
Its not only the kashmir issue, Kulbhushan yaduv is living proof of Indian involvement in baluchistan.

India finances trouble in Pakistan - Chuck Hagel -


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shh, do not present any evidence, lets not burst the bubble that most of the naive Indians live in, which is that their country government is as clean as Ganges river, and Indian army is in Kashmir to distribute sweets after for the winning of cricket matches against Pakistan in world cup. SHhhhh
 
www787 said:
shh, do not present any evidence, lets not burst the bubble that most of the naive Indians live in, which is that their country government is as clean as Ganges river, and Indian army is in Kashmir to distribute sweets after for the winning of cricket matches against Pakistan in world cup. SHhhhh
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No one claims that what [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] bhai is against is Pakistanis not accepting their role in inciting violence over last 4 decades in Kashmir through proxies and putting all blame on Indians.. There's a saying it takes two hands to clap, the start of proxy wars and supporting terrorists is well accepted fact but when posters here deny that and post India supports terrorism and not Pakistan its hypocrisy which CJ bhai points out..

I am sure in a sensible and logical discussion he and other Indians will accept our governments failing over last 70 years as well..
 
90MPH said:
What's the current way ??

You need to think outside the Indian media or government propaganda line. It's your army, so called security services and the policy in general that has made the Kashmir issue a bad one. There is a reason nearly the whole population resents Indian rule.

Blaming Pakistan for everything is an easy cop out and the idea that by blaming the alleged funding and support of pro Kashmir militants groups will make everything rosy is a load of nonsense. It's going to take a progmatic step.

Mushy and Vajpayee actually were very close to resolving it but the latter bottled it because of the ramifications from his own party.

At least though he had the balls to discuss it - something I don't ever see this current Indian PM doing. He's all
Loud mouth for the media.
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Its important not to swallow the media reporting or propaganda hook, line and sinker.

At the same time, its important to objectively look at a situation.

Bringing Kashmir and blaming Indian Army for the growth of terrorism in Pakistan won't solve anything.

The Indian Army didn't get Pakistan backed militants to attack Kashmir in 1947.
The Indian Army didn't start the 80s riots in Kashmir which is when things took a dark turn.
The Indian Army didn't lead to increasing radicalism in Pakistan.
The Indian Army didn't get to Pakistan Army using non state actors to try to fulfill its objectives.

Leave aside Kashmir. Look at the situation in Pakistan when it comes to terrorism. Who is responsible for it? Indian policies or Pakistani policies? And who gets affected by it the most? India or Pakistan.

As for action steps to resolve Kashmir, let's look at it rationally.

UN decision - Pak takes out all army. India has a bare minimum. Conduct plebscite. Pakistan didn't do it cos they were wary of India. Ok. Understandable. Then came Shimla agreement where both decided to solve Kashmir issue with bilateral talks which as you rightly said, Vajpayee and Musharraf almost did.

When Pakistan has decided to solve Kashmir with bilateral talks, why does it use non state actors to gain Kashmir? Whose policy shows inconsistencies?

Therein lies your answer.

This topic is done to death. Definitely this diplomat should have chosen better words but my point that India and Pakistan can't properly engage now does have merits. Things have to cool down and maybe talks can start later. But long term peace between both nations are only possible when Pakistan weeds out terrorist organizations operating in its soil which
1) their establishment doesn't want to
2) even if they want to, its not easy to do it due to the extent of terror network and Saudi influence
 
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Muhammad10 said:
We all know you would (understandably) be crying foul if India had been called something like "Lynchistan". It wouldn't be so idiotic if she had responded to Abbasi's speech in a mature manner, but this name-calling is childish, embarrassing and highly offensive.
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Absolutely disgusting behaviour by an Indian minister - shows the quality of people in this Indian Gov.
 
big_gamer007 said:
No one claims that what [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] bhai is against is Pakistanis not accepting their role in inciting violence over last 4 decades in Kashmir through proxies and putting all blame on Indians.. There's a saying it takes two hands to clap, the start of proxy wars and supporting terrorists is well accepted fact but when posters here deny that and post India supports terrorism and not Pakistan its hypocrisy which CJ bhai points out..

I am sure in a sensible and logical discussion he and other Indians will accept our governments failing over last 70 years as well..
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When has Pakistan or any Pakistani ever denied the fact that they support Freedom fighter in Kashmir against oppressive Indian force?

It is Indian who believe their army is cleaner than holy cow Milk when it comes to not inciting violence in foreign land, and killing of innocent & rapping in Kashmir.

logical and sensible enough?
 
Muhammad10 said:
We all know you would (understandably) be crying foul if India had been called something like "Lynchistan". It wouldn't be so idiotic if she had responded to Abbasi's speech in a mature manner, but this name-calling is childish, embarrassing and highly offensive.
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Accusing India of Terrorism Genocide Illegal occupatio and war crimes is mature?Not one country other than Pakistan has accused India of these things.I can assure you that quite a few countries other than India has accused Pakistan of terrorism.

I can understand if Pakistani PM would have asked for implementation of UNSC resolutions.But with the accusations he made he crossed a line of civility and invited responses which were of the similar vein.
 
Lonewarrior said:
Its not only the kashmir issue, Kulbhushan yaduv is living proof of Indian involvement in baluchistan.

India finances trouble in Pakistan - Chuck Hagel -


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Keyboard Warrior how many times will you post the same videos and get them debunked.Lets do this again

1.Chuck Hagel said that "India finances trouble for Pakistan on that side of the border" referring to Afghanistan.Ofcourse India finances the Anti Pakistan Afghan govt and Afghan Army.So does multiple nations around the world.Is the afghan govt a terrorist organisation?

2.Chuck Hagel said this long before he became US secretary of defense.

Btw can you tell me what the US President said about Pakistan?

Oh and Kulbhushan Yadav will be decided by the ICJ.Should i post what us being said about the Pak Military courts?
 
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www787 said:
Sur G kal Strike kind of retaliation? Please do because it was kind of entertaining.
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Sad your Army had to hide its losses.Heard they even refused to tell the Pakistani Senate the losses it takes.

Nothing new.Pakistan army denied the genocide of Bangladeshis and the kargil war as well.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Sad your Army had to hide its losses.Heard they even refused to tell the Pakistani Senate the losses it takes.

Nothing new.Pakistan army denied the genocide of Bangladeshis and the kargil war as well.
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did Shushshua said that during her 'stand up" show?
 
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