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New Delhi: With the International Cricket Council (ICC) meeting taking place in Kolkata, Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Najam Sethi is in the country and as expected, talks did turn towards the alleged MoU between India and Pakistan on playing bilateral series which PCB claims the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has not honoured. Sethi went to the extent of saying that Pakistan was ready to play India on any mutually agreed neutral venue and not just in the UAE. The BCCI though has done tough talking and asked the PCB to keep its players in check before talking about resumption of cricketing ties. This after Pakistani paceman Hasan Ali's recent antics at the Wagah Border.

Speaking to CricketNext, a senior BCCI official said that resuming cricketing ties with a country which doesn’t respect another country doesn’t even arise, let alone seeking government permission. In fact, the official went on to add that Ali’s bizarre antics at the Attari-Wagah border during the traditional flag-lowering ceremony following former Pakistan skipper Shahid Afridi’s comments on Kashmir further justified the Indian board’s stance of cutting all ties with its Pakistan counterpart because they were the ones who were mixing sports with politics.

“In an ideal world, we would host Pakistan in India and visit Pakistan to play there. Our willingness thus exceeds the willingness of PCB it appears, when we talk only of willingness. However, firstly Najam must understand that BCCI does not decide the policies of the government of India just the way PCB does not decide the policies of the government of Pakistan. We are an Indian organisation that is bound by the laws of India and we have to comply with them, it is not a card for us but a legal necessity. It may be optional to follow the law in Pakistan, but in India it is mandatory.

“Further, it is a bit much for Najam to say this when the Patron in Chief of the PCB is the sitting Prime Minister of Pakistan. I would also request Najam to sternly deal with the issue of the recent misbehaviour of the Pakistani cricketer in showing disrespect towards India as a country and other indiscriminate actions and words by former cricketers that do nothing to promote the right atmosphere for cricket. I do hope they at least understand the concept of a ‘gentleman’,” he said.

Ali was seen walking up to the Pakistani soldier in the middle of the ceremony. He then imitated the Rangers, patted his thigh and raised his arm, before replicating his signature celebratory move, all the while gesturing to the Indian soldiers and spectators on the other side. Ali was part of the Pakistani cricket team which visited the Attari-Wagah border to view the flag-lowering ceremony, considered to be the highlight of the day.

Former Pakistan cricketer Shahid Afridi recently took to Twitter and urged the UN to intervene in ‘India Occupied Kashmir’ and stop the killing of ‘innocents’.

India though are expected to play Pakistan in the Asia Cup, which was shifted out of India to the United Arab Emirates and will be played in September.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/pakistan-players-should-first-learn-to-respect-india-before-thinking-about-resumption-of-bilateral-cricket-bcci-1728223.html
 
lolz..we dont need bilateral series if you are taking away our natural flair and celebrations....
 
Wow, wasn't expecting such stern and high handed response from BCCI under meek COA.

Reminded me of the good ol' days when Mama was in charge. :misbah
 
Indians playing the victim card
*Pretends to be shocked*

BCCI don't have to do anything, they are doing just fine without PCB, this statement was in response to constant whining of PCB for last decade for a series.
 
Who is running after BCCI to play series with big bowl for so many years and you are calling BCCI crybabies.

That was for MuO.But again if you ask any common man all will disagree with NS and Zaka Ashraf for that and i am one of those.
 
Indeed, if you are desperate to get Indian money then show respect towards India. Neither India nor any other cricket playing nation is dying to play Pakistan.
 
That was for MuO.But again if you ask any common man all will disagree with NS and Zaka Ashraf for that and i am one of those.

This is about MOU only and it is PCB who has been flaunting this MOU as if it was some binding contract and Mr Sethi is getting lot of mileage based on that MOU only.

This gentleman from BCCI has given Mr.Sethi perfect response.
 
Wow stern response. Sethi can forget about a India series, govt. Clearance or not.
 
I am always fine with PCB wanting to play India for right reasons, but it appears PCB is only after the money which Indian series generates and not about peace and harmony between two nations.

I would love to see a full series against Pakistan in right circumstances.2004 series where Inzi was captain and he was such a gracious host is what I want to see not this acrimony and animosity.
 
What a bunch of cry babies. Expected of them though.

The person crying is Sethi. For a series. Bcci hasnot even once asked for a series.

You want our money, then respect us. Else we are fine not playing Pakistan.
 
Great! Irrespective of GOIs decision, BCCI is not going to play any bilateral series. That puts an end to the long awaited speculation.
 
Why should Pak players respect India?

Let Pak players be and think what they want to. It should not effect India in any way. If it is effecting Indian mindset, then we are weak minded.
 
This is about MOU only and it is PCB who has been flaunting this MOU as if it was some binding contract and Mr Sethi is getting lot of mileage based on that MOU only.

This gentleman from BCCI has given Mr.Sethi perfect response.

I enjoy our players with flair and energy and thats what i say and most of pakistani believe.the rest is upto SEthi BCCI what they signed and what they want to do.
 
I enjoy our players with flair and energy and thats what i say and most of pakistani believe.the rest is upto SEthi BCCI what they signed and what they want to do.

I think you're mistaking flair with buffoonery without a sense of occasion
 
The person crying is Sethi. For a series. Bcci hasnot even once asked for a series.

You want our money, then respect us. Else we are fine not playing Pakistan.

In other words if you want money obey our orders,but i think we should not.this series thing has been humiliating for all of us as pakistani and we strongly oppose anything which takes away our self respect.

If sethi is fighting a legal battle that up to him but.Its better for BCCI to find other excuses and legally outsmart PCB to make an end tot his series thing and wwe Enjoy what we can with in norms.
 
I think you're mistaking flair with buffoonery without a sense of occasion
So it should have been indian government response instead of BCCI.What BCCI has to do with lame excuses.
Like i have heard that Indian army has launched a protest to our side which i have no problem with.
 
So it should have been indian government response instead of BCCI.What BCCI has to do with lame excuses.
Like i have heard that Indian army has launched a protest to our side which i have no problem with.

If the player of a rival board did that , why can't they point out that !! There is nothing wrong in that.
 
Afridi and Hasan Ali have turned them into crybabies. Man I didn't think it was a big deal what they did but how wrong was I.
 
Sethi the man comes to India and orders BCCI

" Please play us and pay us"
 
Afridi and Hasan Ali have turned them into crybabies. Man I didn't think it was a big deal what they did but how wrong was I.

You people should ask your Govt to give highest civilian award to Hasan ali for one of the greatest acts done by a Pakistani.
 
It is unfortunate to drag players in politics
Dhoni is an admirable player. BCCI humiliated him by throwing in kashmir and then the silly circle started with a afridi and hasan Ali''s actions
 
OTT reaction by BCCI, adding another to their ever expanding list of excuses to not play
 
It is unfortunate to drag players in politics
Dhoni is an admirable player. BCCI humiliated him by throwing in kashmir and then the silly circle started with a afridi and hasan Ali''s actions

Even worse is all this argument is over nothing!

Some random tv channel has decided to sensationalise a nothing report based on comments from an anonymous source! They did their bit and fools from both sides have started the chest thumping!

The only things bigger than the animosity between these two countries is the abject stupidity and immaturity prevalent on both sides.
 
Why would rich man having all the wealth and power cry ? That too for a silly antics from poor men? Here BCCI is making it clear to everyone. If you want Indian money better give respect to Indians. I don't see anybody crying or whining here.
 
Why would rich man having all the wealth and power cry ? That too for a silly antics from poor men? Here BCCI is making it clear to everyone. If you want Indian money better give respect to Indians. I don't see anybody crying or whining here.

My friend, respect isn't earned with money. It's earned with your actions, if your guys stop back stabbing us and living upto your words than yea you might get some respect. Until then #NoIssueLeLoTissue
 
My friend, respect isn't earned with money. It's earned with your actions, if your guys stop back stabbing us and living upto your words than yea you might get some respect. Until then #NoIssueLeLoTissue

A bit rich talking about back stabbing and crying. It was PCB who after accepting big 3 proposal, went against it. MOU isn't worth a penny when the original conditions are not met. It's PCB that's crying for the series not BCCI.
 
I didn't post in that thread, but it was disgusting, immature and quite foolish act by Hasan. What is fun for common people isn't same for these troops (from both sides), who are almost always tense and risking their life.
 
I enjoy our players with flair and energy and thats what i say and most of pakistani believe.the rest is upto SEthi BCCI what they signed and what they want to do.

No one is asking pakistani players to lose their flair. All anyone is asking from them is respect .It has always been upto BCCI .
 
A bit rich talking about back stabbing and crying. It was PCB who after accepting big 3 proposal, went against it. MOU isn't worth a penny when the original conditions are not met. It's PCB that's crying for the series not BCCI.

See thats the problem, you guys will say whatever to defend your board without checking the facts. MoU was signed after PCB abstained from voting
 
I didn't post in that thread, but it was disgusting, immature and quite foolish act by Hasan. What is fun for common people isn't same for these troops (from both sides), who are almost always tense and risking their life.

Have you been to Wagah? Troops enjoy the limelight and putting up a good show. Hasan is an entertainer and Wagah is just another stage
 
Have you been to Wagah? Troops enjoy the limelight and putting up a good show. Hasan is an entertainer and Wagah is just another stage

No he has no business of provoking the forces on the other side, he can entertain his troops all he wants by turning towards them and not facing towards other side of the border and taunting Indian troops.

If you think that is cool then there is no point of discussion.
 
So the goal posts have been shifted to Afridi and Hasan now? LOL.

For a board that is as powerful and influential as the BCCI is, they sure are a bunch of snowflakes.
 
The fact that the almighty BCCI is even aware of Hasans antics is a joke , let alone their reaction towards it.

I don't know what's worse - how desperate Sethi is or how childish the BCCI are. One things for certain; both are an embarrassment to the beautiful game of cricket.
 
India and BCCI have moved past June 18th but it seems some Pakistani fans are not letting that go, I can't blame them them they had very little since to cheer about anything.
 
India should first become worthy of respect.

Well if India is not worthy of respect why are PCB/Fans running after it like hell for past decade.India and BCCI are doing just fine without PCB.

All these statements have come from BCCI in response to the PCB going everywhere they can to get their money from India.
 
India and BCCI have moved past June 18th but it seems some Pakistani fans are not letting that go, I can't blame them them they had very little since to cheer about anything.

You guys are such a sensitive bunch that a tweet can put your whole nation into meltdown and you have the audacity to talk about Pakistanis not letting go. :)))
 
A bit rich talking about back stabbing and crying. It was PCB who after accepting big 3 proposal, went against it. MOU isn't worth a penny when the original conditions are not met. It's PCB that's crying for the series not BCCI.
It seems like you are a firm believer in the theory of repeating a lie so many times that one starts believing its the truth. :))

PCB voted for the Big 3 after they were promised the matches. BCCI was the one who failed to uphold their part of the bargain. It was not a continous condition and even then BCCI breached their promise first.
 
screw BCCI and screw all the leadership of BCCI. They are the biggest cry babies ever.
 
This is how Indian cricket works, let me break it down for you.

When Pakistan cricket was worthless pre PSL and team was a shambles they were supporting us and being oh so supportive.

As soon as Pakistan starts winning they start complaining about "respect". Basically they want you to be rubbish and humble.

It doesn't work like that my Indian friends, Pakistan cricket is heading back to the 90s in your face attitude. This is just the beginning.
 
See thats the problem, you guys will say whatever to defend your board without checking the facts. MoU was signed after PCB abstained from voting

No. Why will BCCI sign an MOU if Pakistan abstained from voting?

"It may be mentioned here that after Zaka’s removal from the PCB as chairman, incumbent chairman Najam Sethi voted in favour of the Big Three and in return he signed an agreement with the BCCI that both the countries would resume bilateral cricket, which has been suspended since the last decade due to political issues between the two governments"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailyt...raf-says-pcb-wasting-time-mou-issue-bcci/amp/
 
India and BCCI have moved past June 18th but it seems some Pakistani fans are not letting that go, I can't blame them them they had very little since to cheer about anything.

And this is relevant how....?
 
You guys are such a sensitive bunch that a tweet can put your whole nation into meltdown and you have the audacity to talk about Pakistanis not letting go. :)))

Reacting to Taunting armed forces is not being sensitive at all.It is about showing respect and I guess Mr. Ali and people who are supporting his antics know very little about it.
 
No one is asking respect but when you want someone's money, he can atleast ask for you to be humble and let go of your high horse. It is true for every field, you have to be obedient in front of your employer.
 
I wonder if supporters will term it as showing flair if Hasan does the antics at a funeral
 
Indian board’s stance of cutting all ties with its Pakistan counterpart because they were the ones who were mixing sports with politics.

I do hope they at least understand the concept of a ‘gentleman’,” he said.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/pakistan-players-should-first-learn-to-respect-india-before-thinking-about-resumption-of-bilateral-cricket-bcci-1728223.html

Then grow a spine, act like MEN and indeed cut all ties, i mean ALL TIES as it is mentioned in the article. Don't play with us in ICC tournaments (Obviously you will play because during ICC tourney blood of jawwans, politics, e.t.c e.t.c logic commits suicide ) :))
 
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It seems like you are a firm believer in the theory of repeating a lie so many times that one starts believing its the truth. :))

PCB voted for the Big 3 after they were promised the matches. BCCI was the one who failed to uphold their part of the bargain. It was not a continous condition and even then BCCI breached their promise first.

PCB voted against big 3 later which nullified the original mou. The agreement to play bilateral series is from 2015-2023. BCCI can send the Indian team next month to Pakistan if they want to. BCCI failing to uphold their end of the bargain is not a valid argument because we are still in 2018 and the MOU is valid until 2023. The issue is with PCB going back on their assurance.
 
It was India who turned back on their word. It is India who tries to turn other boards against Pakistan and publicly admits they wish for the worst for Pakistan cricket. And their former cricketers make childish comments like "bap bap hota hai", yet they have a problem with Afridi voicing against violence on innocents and Hasan's celebration. Of course their rabid fan base is quiet embarrassing as well, especially on social media. India should first learn to become respectable before asking for respect.
 
No one is asking respect but when you want someone's money, he can atleast ask for you to be humble and let go of your high horse. It is true for every field, you have to be obedient in front of your employer.

Wait a minute? Are we asking for charity or loan?


All we are asking for is a series that was promised to us to get us to vote for BCCI. If a series is held both boards make money.



But we have seen your media and how it twists facts so its not surprising that most of you come across as ignorant and uninformed.
 
No one is asking respect but when you want someone's money, he can atleast ask for you to be humble and let go of your high horse. It is true for every field, you have to be obedient in front of your employer.

Excuse me we are not BCCI employers.What next..
 
Why should they Cut off the nose to spite the face.They will continue to play Pakistan in multi nation tournaments.If PCB has problem then they need to deal with it.

:)))

Smell a coffee dude and read complete article.
 
Well if India is not worthy of respect why are PCB/Fans running after it like hell for past decade.India and BCCI are doing just fine without PCB.

All these statements have come from BCCI in response to the PCB going everywhere they can to get their money from India.

Exactly, glad you see it this way. We have a right to pursue our money. Otherwise no one in Pakistan cares if India doesn't play us
 
No one is asking respect but when you want someone's money, he can atleast ask for you to be humble and let go of your high horse. It is true for every field, you have to be obedient in front of your employer.

BCCI is not asking Pakistan or PCB to be obedient ,Why should they be obedient to BCCI they are not their employees.

What BCCI wants harmonious relationship between two nations and that starts with players from each team respecting other team and nation.
 
This is how Indian cricket works, let me break it down for you.

When Pakistan cricket was worthless pre PSL and team was a shambles they were supporting us and being oh so supportive.

As soon as Pakistan starts winning they start complaining about "respect". Basically they want you to be rubbish and humble.

It doesn't work like that my Indian friends, Pakistan cricket is heading back to the 90s in your face attitude. This is just the beginning.
You mean the team that got thrashed 5-0 by NZ recently? LOL. :))
 
Indians phir ro rahay hain lol what a cry baby BCCI is turning in to!

Baap baap hota hai, mauka mauka, Ghambir (no need to explain any further) etc. etc.
 
It feels royal coming from Indians talking about respect when on the eve of CT final; they showed the most scummish behavior the cricketing world or the sports world for that matter has ever experienced.

Ranging from Sehwag's baap baap ignorance to Rishi Kapoors meltdown to Raju Shrivastu showing up on Wagah with BSF holding mics for him to mock pakistani team and sarfraz to what not.

People living in glass houses shouldnt throw stones and if a discussion is related to respect, indians shouldnt be anywhere near it.
 
If Hasan showed disrespect by doing his celebration at Wagah,can Sehwag's tweets be defended?What he said/did was far worse.
 
It feels royal coming from Indians talking about respect when on the eve of CT final; they showed the most scummish behavior the cricketing world or the sports world for that matter has ever experienced.

Ranging from Sehwag's baap baap ignorance to Rishi Kapoors meltdown to Raju Shrivastu showing up on Wagah with BSF holding mics for him to mock pakistani team and sarfraz to what not.

People living in glass houses shouldnt throw stones and if a discussion is related to respect, indians shouldnt be anywhere near it.

Well if that is the case then there is nothing else needed then. Let the status quo be maintained and PCB and its fans will continue on this semi annual exercise holding that MOU for eternity. BCCI is doing just fine.
 
Poor from both parties.

Poor from Hassan, without any doubt.

And poor from BCCI, to ask respect from Pakistan.

Why would you expect respect from anyone?

And what does respecting has to do with playing or not.
 
Hasan's actions are just downright stupid, and he should apologise for them regardless. Act with some class. Whether it was just a joke or not, tensions are already high between the two nations and acting in such a manner is kinda stupid.

Afridi has made a lot of stupid statements over the years, and it's embarrassing that we herald both an average player, but someone who acts so stupidly in public/media. But if there are problems and killings in Kashmir, who are we to say that we should just turn a blind eye to it. I don't believe saying you have issues against what is happening in Kashmir makes you anti-Indian. And I don't think it's bad to highlight other countries issues, it's a lot harder to speak against your own country and sometimes it takes other countries to point out your mistakes to get people to notice.

If India don't want to play with Pakistan, don't play with them IMO. I wouldn't want Pakistan to play a country who doesn't even want to. Try to keep the focus on repairing relations and ending conflicts/disputes between the two nations so one day in the future both countries will be happy to play against each other without any malice.

There's so many countries apart from India happy to play Pakistan and we should make the most of that. Yes India offers money, but instead of whining just try to maximise no. of series/matches and revenue with the other countries.

Just look at the PSL. Pakistan fans/cricketers were complaining for years about not playing in the IPL. And now they have the PSL which has been a success and created financial security for a lot players as well as a buzz amongst the Pakistani public. IPL's loss isn't felt as much anymore. Yes IPL is still bigger, but point goes if you want something, there's always a way to do it by other means. If anything we look a bit silly for not starting PSL sooner. Pakistani cricketers haven't played in IPL for is it 9 years? And yet PSL only started 2 years ago. A lot of years wasted.
 
I seriously think BCCI has no case, so they are instead trying to divert attention...taken from the playbook from the 'Only' democracy in the middle east!
 
There are reasons why we stopped bilateral cricket with Pakistan and the situation hasn’t changed at all. Playing against them in an ICC tournament and organising a bilateral series are entirely different. I don’t know why guys here can’t understand it.

Then comes the ‘respect’ part. I don’t think anybody is taking what Hasan Ali did seriously although it was unnecessary. But what someone like Afridi did was totally wrong and only added fuel to the issues and we have no plans to encourage such statements.

There was a time when the India vs Pakistan debate was settled using cricket matches. I’m afraid that’s no longer the case. We’re at a different level as an economy and as a country. The average Indian guy doesn’t care about India-Pak matches. Cricket’s popularity itself is slowly going down here.

One has to praise Najam Sethi for his sincere efforts but the solution is not as easy as he thinks it is. Unfortunately there are issues that are beyond his control. India-Pakistan matches are exciting but our nation’s interests are more important to us. This is exactly what the BCCI too said I guess.
 
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