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Pakistan to acquire J-35 Stealth Jets, KJ-500 AWACS and HQ-19 defense system from China

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China has agreed to supply Pakistan with 40 J-35A stealth fighter jets, KJ-500 Airborne Warning and Control Systems (AWACS), and HQ-19 long-range air defense systems. The agreement, reported by Defense Security Asia on May 18, is seen as a big step in modernizing Pakistan’s air force and strengthening its air defense capabilities amid growing military competition in South Asia.

The J-35A is China’s latest fifth-generation stealth fighter, featuring advanced radar-evading technology, enhanced avionics, and multirole combat capabilities. The first batch of these jets is expected to be delivered to Pakistan by early 2026, with the remainder arriving in phases.

The KJ-500 AWACS will provide Pakistan with enhanced airborne surveillance, command, and control, while the HQ-19 system will bolster the country’s ability to intercept ballistic missiles and high-altitude threats.

Analysts view this comprehensive package as part of China’s broader strategy to support Pakistan’s military modernization and maintain a balance of power in the region, especially in light of India’s recent defense acquisitions.

In addition to the defense deal, China has approved a deferral of$3.7 billion in debt repayments for Pakistan, providing much-needed fiscal relief as the country faces ongoing economic challenges and foreign exchange pressures.

The partnership between the two countries is also expanding into the technology sector. Pakistan and China have signed a memorandum of understanding with Huawei to train 100,000 Pakistanis in artificial intelligence (AI) and information technology.

 
In addition to the defense deal, China has approved a deferral of$3.7 billion in debt repayments for Pakistan, providing much-needed fiscal relief as the country faces ongoing economic challenges and foreign exchange pressures.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: This is the best part of the article.
 
Is this all donation or does Pak use IMF funds to pay for these or just debt that gets written off. New toys are always welcome.
 
Is this all donation or does Pak use IMF funds to pay for these or just debt that gets written off. New toys are always welcome.
Big mystery. A country that 'boasts' of the recent poverty reports buying toys to flatter their ego, something seems fishy.
 
I called it. Here. First.

Right on plot. For budget transgressions.

Leeching country's money. Bucketful of shaheeds at a time.

 
Is this something to celebrate about? The economy is debt ridden and surviving on deferral of payments & IMF loans, and Pakistan continues to buy more military equipment. What a shame!
 
Is this something to celebrate about? The economy is debt ridden and surviving on deferral of payments & IMF loans, and Pakistan continues to buy more military equipment. What a shame!
Had many people thought like you, Pakistan will not be surviving on IMF loans now. These made in China products are simply waste of time and money. If Pak army tries to terrorism in India again, India will strike back again as well, simple. These toys dont scare us.

Pakistan should focus on eradicating home grown terrorism which according to your defense minister Pak govt is harboring for 30 years. Also, they need to focus on development and progress of its country. If they do these, they may not need these toys. India will never attack Pakistan if not provoked but if they do no amount of China maal can save them.

#FACTS

:kp
 
Country has no money to buy chappathi but tis busy purchasing multi-million dollar jets. :bumble2
 
As long as we keep slapping you Indians, we can survive on whatever we have because we prefer to fight 👍🏼

These low-IQ sanghis should understand Pakistan is not alone. They have military allies like China and Turkey.

When India is fighting Pakistan, they are not just fighting Pakistan. They are fighting Pakistan+China.

India, on the other hand, don't have any military ally. No country came to their help or even believed their narrative. Everybody ignored India. :inti
 
These low-IQ sanghis should understand Pakistan is not alone. They have military allies like China and Turkey.

When India is fighting Pakistan, they are not just fighting Pakistan. They are fighting Pakistan+China.

India, on the other hand, don't have any military ally. No country came to their help or even believed their narrative. Everybody ignored India. :inti
With their resources they cannot make any serious inroads to challenge Pakistan or even step into our territory.

Imagine Pakistan had the spending power of India, deep down they know Pakistan would have ruled over them.

It is their history after all.
 
Is this something to celebrate about? The economy is debt ridden and surviving on deferral of payments & IMF loans, and Pakistan continues to buy more military equipment. What a shame!
Nothing to celebrate but that does not mean Pakistan should not be prepared against the Hindutva extremist aggressor.
 
Big mystery. A country that 'boasts' of the recent poverty reports buying toys to flatter their ego, something seems fishy.
Well when the country has people like you who openly support the genocide of kids and ethnic cleansing then the neighboring country has no option but to defend themselves with whatever they can.
 
Big mystery. A country that 'boasts' of the recent poverty reports buying toys to flatter their ego, something seems fishy.
These toys are used to flatten egos, not flatter them. Learn the difference
 
Country has no money to buy chappathi but tis busy purchasing multi-million dollar jets. :bumble2
It is, and has and used it to do your Maar pitai and even imposed a no fly zone on your own air space!!.... If Carlsberg ever did Phainteee.... it would be this (UK PPer will get this) :ROFLMAO:
 
Is this something to celebrate about? The economy is debt ridden and surviving on deferral of payments & IMF loans, and Pakistan continues to buy more military equipment. What a shame!

Most likely China will give these for free. They recieve free data esp in a live war scenario.

But I agree with the overall point, its a shame both nations spend so much when they have so many who are poor.
 
Pakistan ramps up defence spending by 20 percent after India conflict


Pakistan has announced a major boost to defence spending in its new budget, just weeks after coming to the brink of a fifth war with archrival India.

The budget for the fiscal year 2025-2026, announced by the government on Tuesday, ramps up defence spending to 2.55 trillion rupees ($9bn), up 20 percent from the current fiscal year, which ends this month.

The hike in defence expenditures comes amid a cut in overall spending, which is shrinking by 7 percent to 17.57 trillion rupees ($62bn).

The budget reflects Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s goals of spurring growth while boosting Pakistan’s military in the wake of the most serious conflict between the nuclear-armed neighbours in nearly three decades.

The bitter foes attacked each other with fighter jets, missiles, drones and artillery for several days in May before a ceasefire was declared.

The hostilities were triggered by a deadly attack by gunmen in Pahalgam in Indian-administered Kashmir on April 22, which India accused Pakistan of supporting. Pakistan denied any role in the attack.

A 20 percent boost in defence spending had been expected by economists, who said it would likely be offset by cuts in development spending, the Reuters news agency reported.

India’s defence spending in its 2025-2026 fiscal year, running from April to March, was set at $78.7bn, up nearly 10 percent from the previous year, and it has indicated it will ramp up its spending further in future budgets.

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Link: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...e-spending-by-20-percent-after-india-conflict
 
Most likely China will give these for free. They recieve free data esp in a live war scenario.

But I agree with the overall point, its a shame both nations spend so much when they have so many who are poor.

China claims to be selling these to Pakistan at 50% discount and apparently they received some criticism from local Chinese people for this.
But i am sure this is almost as good as free for Pakistan. It serves China's interest to keep India engaged in regional warfare.

Luckily, we celebrate war in our country like a festival and China should know that it is only just a matter of time before they too are puled into one.
 
I know you are. You couldn’t wait to start this recent one as well.

One should never start a war.
But one should never run away when war is standing at the gate.

The entire Bharat is behind PM Modi on this topic. He can go to war as and when he feels right. He has our unconditional support.

We wish Pakistan luck for the next war whenever it comes. Let’s have a good one this time. No US. no China. no Russia. Just you and us. Let’s have a go at it.
 
One should never start a war.
But one should never run away when war is standing at the gate.

The entire Bharat is behind PM Modi on this topic. He can go to war as and when he feels right. He has our unconditional support.

We wish Pakistan luck for the next war whenever it comes. Let’s have a good one this time. No US. no China. no Russia. Just you and us. Let’s have a go at it.
We do not fear a leader who is desperate enough to even send young women into battle while he cowers and hides behind his maximum security shelter.

He fears death too much to make a decision like that. This life is as good as it will be for him, unless he changes his ways. He’ll be happy with the validation he’s getting from his people right now and won’t risk it. Yet another attention seeking mass murderer who made it to the top.
 
We do not fear a leader who is desperate enough to even send young women into battle while he cowers and hides behind his maximum security shelter.

He fears death too much to make a decision like that. This life is as good as it will be for him, unless he changes his ways. He’ll be happy with the validation he’s getting from his people right now and won’t risk it. Yet another attention seeking mass murderer who made it to the top.

Young woman soldier. Female representation is armed forces has been getting much better recently. Its something to be proud of as an Indian. We prefer our women like that rather than being make up ki duqan like Maryam Nawaz, so disconnected from the 44% countrymen who live in poverty as per World Bank.

Our PM has lived the great Indian dream. He's risen from the bottom to become the most powerful man in the country through sheer hard work. Unlike in Pakistan where billionaire businessmen directly hold political power, that's not the case in India.
 
Young woman soldier. Female representation is armed forces has been getting much better recently. Its something to be proud of as an Indian. We prefer our women like that rather than being make up ki duqan like Maryam Nawaz, so disconnected from the 44% countrymen who live in poverty as per World Bank.

Our PM has lived the great Indian dream. He's risen from the bottom to become the most powerful man in the country through sheer hard work. Unlike in Pakistan where billionaire businessmen directly hold political power, that's not the case in India.
No man of honor will ever send a woman into line of battle. India truly has lost its way. Western ideologies about modern dating and forcefully equating women into roles of men… sad to see
 
No man of honor will ever send a woman into line of battle. India truly has lost its way. Western ideologies about modern dating and forcefully equating women into roles of men… sad to see

If a woman wants to serve the nation, and she's fit and qualifies for the job on merit then she must not be discouraged.
She was not forced and i don't know why are you resorting to plane lies now. Is that also not considered a bad thing from a religious pov?

I understand your overall point and support the ideology that women's primary job must be to nourish the kids and look after the house and muslims have done a commendable job at keeping it this way. The extent of submission by women in muslim nations is praise worthy.
 
If a woman wants to serve the nation, and she's fit and qualifies for the job on merit then she must not be discouraged.
She was not forced and i don't know why are you resorting to plane lies now. Is that also not considered a bad thing from a religious pov?

I understand your overall point and support the ideology that women's primary job must be to nourish the kids and look after the house.
Who’s resorting to plane lies? Did you not mention above that you prefer your women “like that” in terms of representation in the military?

It just shows that’s how desperate India is that they don’t trust their men in the military to get the job done despite their numbers, so have to recruit women to feel safer. 🤭
 
Indian women being used as shields in the military and jets while the men sit at home stirring propaganda and rooting for war and supporting genocide as well half way across the world… incredible. This is the country we should fear? 😂
 
Will they work though? :kapil
Whether it works or not, the customary response Chittar laid on India is guaranteed

So let’s see the next time another security failure occurs in Kashmir for which India want to do pangey.
 
PAF overspending with J35s

You don’t need that kind of tech to defeat IAF pilots.
 
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That's a lie. You are labelling early muslim men as dishonorable.

aisha -- mother of muslims, and consequently role model for muslim women -- went to war many times.

Here she fought against fourth caliph ali, and lost.


Converts are always a little confused, it's natural when they are following a god that is Arab who is not native to them...
 
HQ-19 better do it’s job.

Whatever system they were using last month was no good tbh. India should not have been able to hit so deep into Pakistan.
 
Pakistan ramps up defence spending by 20 percent after India conflict


Pakistan has announced a major boost to defence spending in its new budget, just weeks after coming to the brink of a fifth war with archrival India.

The budget for the fiscal year 2025-2026, announced by the government on Tuesday, ramps up defence spending to 2.55 trillion rupees ($9bn), up 20 percent from the current fiscal year, which ends this month.

The hike in defence expenditures comes amid a cut in overall spending, which is shrinking by 7 percent to 17.57 trillion rupees ($62bn).

The budget reflects Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s goals of spurring growth while boosting Pakistan’s military in the wake of the most serious conflict between the nuclear-armed neighbours in nearly three decades.

The bitter foes attacked each other with fighter jets, missiles, drones and artillery for several days in May before a ceasefire was declared.

The hostilities were triggered by a deadly attack by gunmen in Pahalgam in Indian-administered Kashmir on April 22, which India accused Pakistan of supporting. Pakistan denied any role in the attack.

A 20 percent boost in defence spending had been expected by economists, who said it would likely be offset by cuts in development spending, the Reuters news agency reported.

India’s defence spending in its 2025-2026 fiscal year, running from April to March, was set at $78.7bn, up nearly 10 percent from the previous year, and it has indicated it will ramp up its spending further in future budgets.

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Link: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...e-spending-by-20-percent-after-india-conflict

That's nice, there goes all the money from the upcoming 26th IMF bailout
 
If a woman wants to serve the nation, and she's fit and qualifies for the job on merit then she must not be discouraged.
She was not forced and i don't know why are you resorting to plane lies now. Is that also not considered a bad thing from a religious pov?

I understand your overall point and support the ideology that women's primary job must be to nourish the kids and look after the house and muslims have done a commendable job at keeping it this way. The extent of submission by women in muslim nations is praise worthy.

There are many rumours about the women being sexually assaulted by the depraved bhaijaan’s of the Indian army, I found it odd why the women were being sacrificed into battle in a place with a concerning rape % in their own nation, but there seems to be a more sinister plot behind their so called inclusion in the name of the rainbow.
 
I’ve never understood why Indians feel it’s their business to worry about Pakistan’s money?

Why do they feel it’s their Ammi’s Jahaiz that Pakistan is spending?

Mind your own bloody business!
 
I’ve never understood why Indians feel it’s their business to worry about Pakistan’s money?

Why do they feel it’s their Ammi’s Jahaiz that Pakistan is spending?

Mind your own bloody business!

It's not your money, it is someone else's money that is being loaned to you...

As a well wisher of Pakistan it is not good to see the money from the begging bowl going to fund the army elites lifestyle....
 
It's our future that fauji bois are draining -- and have drained.

This time they are doing it again.

These haramis and their kids in western countries are to get their comeuppance.
 
It's not your money, it is someone else's money that is being loaned to you...

As a well wisher of Pakistan it is not good to see the money from the begging bowl going to fund the army elites lifestyle....
As a well wisher of Pakistan you should worry more about why the country feels the need to spend 80% of its budget on its military and not more of it on the prosperity of the country? That’s all that should concern you. And it should now be clear that the 80% or whatever that has been spent is the reason why the army unleashed a very minor percentage of its armour to make a hostile, terrorist aggressor like India surrender 12 hours into a full blown retort!

Do you understand now??
 
It's our future that fauji bois are draining -- and have drained.

This time they are doing it again.

These haramis and their kids in western countries are to get their comeuppance.
You have no future! You are destined to bust without the army! You want to live in Pakistan or with a Pakistani identity or you want to lick the boots of Indians who will force you to chant Jai Hind?

What’s your final decision?
 
PAF overspending with J35s

You don’t need that kind of tech to defeat lallu IAF pilots.

It’s as good as free. This is great time for Pakistan to get a lot of weapons from China and battle test them against India on behalf of the Chinese. It’s a win win situation for both China and Pakistan military.

As an Indian I welcome this as we have taken up a major indegenization program for our defense needs and these people must be kept on their toes to finish their job asap to keep up.

They’re going to improve Akash missiles to S-400 level and development on S-500 equivalent is underway.

India’s task here is to ramp up its own arsenal to Cold War USSR level. Let the Chinese bleed money on equipping the Pakistanis.
 
As a well wisher of Pakistan you should worry more about why the country feels the need to spend 80% of its budget on its military and not more of it on the prosperity of the country? That’s all that should concern you. And it should now be clear that the 80% or whatever that has been spent is the reason why the army unleashed a very minor percentage of its armour to make a hostile, terrorist aggressor like India surrender 12 hours into a full blown retort!

Do you understand now??

Yes I understand.

I understand that your military needs to keep the Indian boogey man narrative going so they can brainwash the 95% of you Pakistanis in Pakistan and outside to control all the money the country has which should instead be going to its civilians...


😫😭
 
It's our decision.

Not yours. Whilst sitting comfortably in western neighborhoods.

At the least, we are tired of licking fauji bois' boots. And islam zindabad ke naaray.
There is no such thing as sitting comfortably anywhere

Even if it’s your decision on a personal level, well it’s a poor decision

So the decision makers are right to not listen to you. Carry on criticising it on social media. We will do what’s right for Pakistan.
 
You don't do. Zilch.

Whilst sitting comfortably in a western neighborhood. With a western passport.

Come here. Live in islamic republick of pakistan. Then you can do. What you want to do.
Yeah let me a minority of the lowest class go to Pakistan and have all the equal opportunities as someone who openly declares HMGA as an imposter.

You ain’t got a clue who you are talking to.

It’s the exposure that I have sitting in the west that inspires your key strategists to make the correct decisions for national security. We all do our part for Pakistan, whether it be recognised or not. We all do the most we can in our capacity.
 
I understand that your military needs to keep the Indian boogey man narrative going so they can brainwash the 95%


What brainwash? When India launched attacks on 6th May…how much brainwashing was needed for all 100% of the awaam demanding Indian blood??

Who do you think the Pakistani people are??
 
Yeah let me a minority of the lowest class go to Pakistan and have all the equal opportunities as someone who openly declares HMGA as an imposter.
I had to look up that acronym. You are spinning wax lyricals for the same fauji bois who put you into that "low-class minority" box.

Comparatively, agakhanis did it better. To ensure continued high-class survival. They gifted gawadar and built hospitals/universities/schools/clinics to grease hands of these fauji bois. Also helps to have the founder as agakhani too.

A missed opportunity that. By you guys. Nevertheless, from my perspective, you are an equal citizen of pakistan. If you choose to return.
 
Confused souls worshipping an Arab God following a religion that has taken their country into the gutter.

You asked 🤷
Sorry

India is known as the world’s largest open air toilet. Geographically it’s the biggest space where people defecate openly. It’s quite literally the world’s biggest on surface gutter. Is that because of the majority religion it follows?
 
Sorry

India is known as the world’s largest open air toilet. Geographically it’s the biggest space where people defecate openly. It’s quite literally the world’s biggest on surface gutter. Is that because of the majority religion it follows?

The public toilet infra in India has improved a lot.

Although they charge you Rs 2 for it as a service which is a scam. They should be completely free and maintained through tax money.

Still a lot better than previously.

Rana, India has never been a country that hides its shortcomings or runs away from them. We have been poor at a lot of things, one pointed out by you and others many times. But we have worked on it. Its not enough. But work's been done and things have improved a lot. Its not like things are any better abroad. In most European and other nations also, you would have to walk a lot to find a public toilet. In India, its a lot better today actually.
 
Sorry

India is known as the world’s largest open air toilet. Geographically it’s the biggest space where people defecate openly. It’s quite literally the world’s biggest on surface gutter. Is that because of the majority religion it follows?

Well that I give it to you, following an Arab God makes your poopless

🙃
 
Kj500 aew will be command and control and interlink with sams and fighter jets

Zdk 03 are being converted to electronic warfare platforms.

Hq19 a Chinese equivalent of thaad


J35 a stealth fighter

Indians in big trouble.

Pakistan already has the cm302 missile just need to buy the cx1 missile which is a chinese brahmos equivalent.

2 missile hopefully when used with live information for chinese Intel and sattelites and kj500 will sink some indian ships.


Things have changed pakistan doesnt need western weapons since chinese are now matching those systems and make such strides they are even racing ahead in certain developments.

Times have changed just look at the idiot in charge of usa and the carnage he causing domestically and economically.

China has pakistans back and will use it sameway like n korea and north Vietnam in any conflict to hurt india.
Sameway nato have used ukraine.

With acquisition of j35 , pakistan will have a technologically superior plane than india
You couldn't make this up .
Russia has nothing to offer they are finished.

And the f35 is an absolute financial tanglment for indians and the usa especially these days is simply unreliable.
 
just need to buy the cx1 missile which is a chinese brahmos equivalent.

No it is not.

BrahMos has better range, better precision hit capability thanks to its more developed guidance systems, can be fired from air and submarines apart from land and ships.

Above all it is battle tested, with verified satellite images of damages done by it well within Pakistan all over the internet

Reliability will always remain a huge issue with the Chinese weapon systems. Chinese are deceitful and often show their products as more superior paper than they really are. We saw just last month how their air defense completely embarrassed Pakistan during war time.
 
It’s as good as free. This is great time for Pakistan to get a lot of weapons from China and battle test them against India on behalf of the Chinese. It’s a win win situation for both China and Pakistan military.

As an Indian I welcome this as we have taken up a major indegenization program for our defense needs and these people must be kept on their toes to finish their job asap to keep up.

They’re going to improve Akash missiles to S-400 level and development on S-500 equivalent is underway.

India’s task here is to ramp up its own arsenal to Cold War USSR level. Let the Chinese bleed money on equipping the Pakistanis.
You’ve inadvertently started an arms war with China, this is unwise. One of the many mistakes of your talentless PM.
 
Confused souls worshipping an Arab God following a religion that has taken their country into the gutter.

You asked 🤷
“Arab God”, you worship what is made halal for us. Don’t talk about religion.

The collective stupidity of Indians seems to grow as the years pass. Equating religion with the development of a country. You have the understanding of a peanut.
 
You’ve inadvertently started an arms war with China, this is unwise. One of the many mistakes of your talentless PM.

We are starting an arms war? Please check what all China has quietly accumulated. It maybe useless in a real war scenario but we are not at parity yet.

Besides, this is an indegenisation push. It has to happen. Cannot keep buying expensive stuff given we don’t beg for them like Pakistan does.
 
We are starting an arms war? Please check what all China has quietly accumulated. It maybe useless in a real war scenario but we are not at parity yet.

Besides, this is an indegenisation push. It has to happen. Cannot keep buying expensive stuff given we don’t beg for them like Pakistan does.
China has accumulated for reasons other than India.

By attacking Pakistan (for any reason) you know that China prop up Pakistan at every turn, especially militarily. Anything India does, China will counteract it through proxy via Pakistan. Anything you do, China will produce more at a faster rate even if it’s to deal with Pakistan. This is something that is dangerous for India.

Militarily, you’re almost at parity with a state much smaller (Pakistan). Fighting a war on 1.5 fronts is beyond India.
 
By attacking Pakistan (for any reason) you know that China prop up Pakistan at every turn, especially militarily. Anything India does, China will counteract it through proxy via Pakistan. Anything you do, China will produce more at a faster rate even if it’s to deal with Pakistan. This is something that is dangerous for India.

You should be embarrassed that Pakistan is treated by China as nothing but a prop/guinea-pig to use against India. Have some self-respect.
 
You should be embarrassed that Pakistan is treated by China as nothing but a prop/guinea-pig to use against India. Have some self-respect.
It’s a much smaller state than India, of course our country needs to be freed from many restrictions that are holding it back but why embarrassed? It only does what it does to survive. If we were the same size as you guys, I’d feel sorry for you. You’d be ruled over 😄

It’s you guys who overstate your power and get knocked back consistently. Have some shame for once and learn to be nicer.
 
China has accumulated for reasons other than India.

By attacking Pakistan (for any reason) you know that China prop up Pakistan at every turn, especially militarily. Anything India does, China will counteract it through proxy via Pakistan. Anything you do, China will produce more at a faster rate even if it’s to deal with Pakistan. This is something that is dangerous for India.

Militarily, you’re almost at parity with a state much smaller (Pakistan). Fighting a war on 1.5 fronts is beyond India.


There is only 1 goal.
To slay China.

Nothing can stop us from doing so. Only a matter of time
 
You should be embarrassed that Pakistan is treated by China as nothing but a prop/guinea-pig to use against India. Have some self-respect.


To be honest it’s a matter of pride for them.

R.E.S.P.E.C.T. , IYKYK 🤣🤡
 

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No it is not.

BrahMos has better range, better precision hit capability thanks to its more developed guidance systems, can be fired from air and submarines apart from land and ships.

Above all it is battle tested, with verified satellite images of damages done by it well within Pakistan all over the internet

Reliability will always remain a huge issue with the Chinese weapon systems. Chinese are deceitful and often show their products as more superior paper than they really are. We saw just last month how their air defense completely embarrassed Pakistan during war time.

China has already developed something quicker a hypersonic anti ship land attack missile

It's called yj21 and it's hypersonic .

Keep trying to compete

Russia is finished

And the west in particular the usa is totally unreliable as a defence partner and ally
 
China has already developed something quicker a hypersonic anti ship land attack missile

It's called yj21 and it's hypersonic .

Keep trying to compete

Russia is finished

And the west in particular the usa is totally unreliable as a defence partner and ally

Russians make the best missile rockets.
When it comes to China, trust nothing unless deployed and battle tested.
 
Russians make the best missile rockets.
When it comes to China, trust nothing unless deployed and battle tested.

No it doesn't if they do why are most of their missiles being intercepted in ukraine

Russia is screwed

Russian aircraft won't even dare come close to ukranian airspace , ukraine has even managed to use cheap drones to shoot down aircraft with even used a drone boat with a sam to take down aircraft
 
HQ-19 better do it’s job.

Whatever system they were using last month was no good tbh. India should not have been able to hit so deep into Pakistan.
Context is key. There's not many systems, if any, that reliably intercept supersonic or hypersonic missiles. BrahMos is supersonic. Pakistan used Fatah missiles to attack India, which are not even proper missiles, but more like long range artillery. India cannot reliably intercept Shaheens or Ababeel.
 
If you are sick and you go to doctor and he give you certain medications and tells you to follow a certain diet but if you decide to take the medicine and didn’t follow the strict diet then the medicine will not going to work on you
 
I think it's time we set our ego aside and consider ordering from China too. Even BJP's Swamy admitted that Pakistan used Chinese weapons to bring down five of our jets, maybe it's time we focus on cost-cutting and saving taxpayer money instead of pride. :inti
 
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