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Very good inning today under difficult circumstances especially with the tail. Batted better than the top order batsmen on a difficult pitch. I think if he works on his batting more he can become a genuine all rounder. Hes still very young not even 18 but batted very sensibly for his age. Bowling wasnt too bad either just had to bowl against Younis who is excellent against spin.
 
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Very mature knock and great shot to finish it off. The guy can be a good allrounder for us inshaAllah.
 
Has good brain and was excellent in field accounting for 3 run outs surely a good find. Should be handled properly and not getting destroyed by our domestic structure
 
Hope he can develop him self in to a proper all-rounder.


Off topic: Do you guys think Zohaib Khan might be a better spinner than Mohammed Asghar
 
Wow only 17 and already more mature than a few thirty year olds. IF taken care of this guy can become a very handy allrounder for us in ODI's.

But you know how it goes in Pakistan cricket.
 
We have so many good young under 19 players that got lost because the Pcb doesn't invest in them

Saif Badar was impressive yesterday and now this guy to, shame that Umair Masood and Zeeshan Malik who looked even more impressive at under 19 level didn't even get picked

Also last under 19 crop of guys like Saud Shakeel and Kamran Ghulam who both have immense talent don't get picked

Zafar Gohar and Hasan Ali didn't even get to play and Semeen Gul who was also really impressive at under 19 didn't even get to bowl today

Hope Sami Aslam gets to play and scores big

Pakistan cricket is not dead and talent is still there but these old and currupt people are trying to kill it
 
Well said. Couldn't have put it any better. Can't believe players like saud shakeel and kamran ghulam have not being picked.
 
We got a lot of good bowling allrounders coming through

Shadab Khan
Zafar Gohar
Mohammed Nawaz
Kamran Ghulam
Hasan Khan

Hopefully one of these guys turns into world class
 
Shadab Khan : Pakistan U19 Batsman

Hi

This kid looks like he can play under pressure.

Played some innings in u19 tournament
played one in the u19 wc
played one with misbah ul haq in pakistan cup

Right now, you cannot call it a pressure situation but him being in 20s and this being his first match in England...is still impressive

What are your thoughts?


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just as i posted this thread, he gets out on 48 :facepalm:
 
Batting was not bad, but also need to work with Musi on his bowling and variation as Leggi.
 
He's only 17 so he has a long time to improve. Looks like a prospect!

Of curse, but age shouldn't be a barrier to work on only one aspect of your game - right?

Its the perfect time for his development.
 
Of curse, but age shouldn't be a barrier to work on only one aspect of your game - right?

Its the perfect time for his development.
Obviously he should be working on his game, no matter how old he is, weather he's 17 or 37.

What I meant was that we shouldn't be judging him like we would judge an international player because he's only a teen right now, but he should obviously be working.

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Batting depth for the A team is 10x better than that of the senior team. Mix of lefties and righties in the batting order too. hONESTLY if you combine them can form a decent final XI.

And tbh given how Hafeez has lost it after injury, maybe Sharjeel would be better, at least he can up the RR contributing similar amount of runs.
 
He can bat, no doubt. He has a long way to go and he should seriously think about his career. Should start working in NCA with Mushi, i hope we can get a good future bowling AR.
 
The problem is that some of these players are not the claimed age.

He is in the under 19 squad and age tests are conducted by the ICC to confirm age of players.. even if you do not agree with his age he can maximum be 18 or 19, not 35..
 
Hi

This kid looks like he can play under pressure.

Played some innings in u19 tournament
played one in the u19 wc
played one with misbah ul haq in pakistan cup

Right now, you cannot call it a pressure situation but him being in 20s and this being his first match in England...is still impressive

What are your thoughts?


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just as i posted this thread, he gets out on 48 :facepalm:
As a leggie i like Usama Mir alot but

Batting potential gives Shadab Khan massive advantage over Usama Mir. Both are excellent fielders but Usama is brilliant Athlete and field.

But Shadab is an Allrounder Usama isnt.

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He should focus on his batting and quit bowling legspin.

Absolutely opposite.

I haven't seen the kid, so can't tell about his bowling, but what you are suggesting is the Afridi way, where as youngsters should target Imran way.

In cricket, in any format (Ok, may not be in T20), the best match winners are bowling all-rounders - bowlers that make the team on bowling merit & can contribute with bat. The best ever I saw was Imran & in that regard, for Test matches at least, I would take Wasim, Hadlee, Warne or Marshall ahead of Sobers or Kallis - that's a separate debate, I won't explain here.

Now, this kid has the option to make PAK as a genuine leggi after Yasir, and he can add valuable runs from No. 8/9. Imran did that - starting from No. 10, ended up career at 3, but more than that, from a dibley-dobly, Imarn became the most lethal bowler, over a 3 years period, even compared to George Lohman or Syd Barnes (Check his stats from 1980 to 1983, before his stress fracture & then couple of years in 1986 & 1987, when he was 35+).

The difficult part is, it would ask him to double his work load - he has to be ready to bowl 3 hours in nets, then 2 hours batting & then other work outs. Imran used to bowl over 1000 overs in a County season & then bat at 4 - he must have put equal amount or more of work-load in nets as well. Afridi opted out the easy way - ended up as a nothing player. But, he had the talent to finish career with ~150 Tests, 7500+ runs at 35 & 450 wickets at 29; and equally impressive ODI career. In fact, he had a genuine chance of becoming the 1st & probably only player ever with 15K+ international runs & 1000+ International wickets; as being spinner, he had 2 decades of career; someone like Watson, Pollock or Crains simply couldn't last that long.

I again say, I haven't seen the boy - he might not be 17, but shouldn't be 23 either & leggis mature with age. He has lots, lots of time at hand. His idol should be Warne, Benaud or Qadir (Qadir was extremely under rated batsman) - someone who bowls 60+ overs in a Test & can contribute 35+runs/Test - that's a batting average of say 23. If he starts for Afridi way, he'll need Afridi like backing from all corners, to represent PAK more than 4/5 years. The reason is simple - he is not the best with bat, if he stops bowling (or can't make any impact), why should selectors pick him for 30s & 40s ahead of specialist bats, who also can share few overs. The best example of what'll happen is Mansoor Amzad - I saw him from Club house truing squire with a nice drift at U19 level, then he decided to compete with Afridi, ended up playing 1 or 2 matches for PAK.

Aamir, this kid, Ashghar, Aamad - all these players should target to make the team on bowling merit, then add value with their batting - that'll keep their nose ahead of Zia, Sadaf, Hamza or newbies. Anwar Alis are no body in Cricket, unless it's a 20 overs cartoon.
 
Ordinary bowler. Badar is a better leggie than him.

And he'd be wasting his batting potential.

LOL, I have seen both bowl and Badar is a part timer, He has more potential as a bowler. Yes his control at present isnt great but leg-spinners need time to develop, and he is only 17.

Infact what you say is true for Badar, he is an excellent batting prospect who doesnt have too much going for his bowling so he should focus on his batting
 
Absolutely opposite.

I haven't seen the kid, so can't tell about his bowling, but what you are suggesting is the Afridi way, where as youngsters should target Imran way.

In cricket, in any format (Ok, may not be in T20), the best match winners are bowling all-rounders - bowlers that make the team on bowling merit & can contribute with bat. The best ever I saw was Imran & in that regard, for Test matches at least, I would take Wasim, Hadlee, Warne or Marshall ahead of Sobers or Kallis - that's a separate debate, I won't explain here.

Now, this kid has the option to make PAK as a genuine leggi after Yasir, and he can add valuable runs from No. 8/9. Imran did that - starting from No. 10, ended up career at 3, but more than that, from a dibley-dobly, Imarn became the most lethal bowler, over a 3 years period, even compared to George Lohman or Syd Barnes (Check his stats from 1980 to 1983, before his stress fracture & then couple of years in 1986 & 1987, when he was 35+).

The difficult part is, it would ask him to double his work load - he has to be ready to bowl 3 hours in nets, then 2 hours batting & then other work outs. Imran used to bowl over 1000 overs in a County season & then bat at 4 - he must have put equal amount or more of work-load in nets as well. Afridi opted out the easy way - ended up as a nothing player. But, he had the talent to finish career with ~150 Tests, 7500+ runs at 35 & 450 wickets at 29; and equally impressive ODI career. In fact, he had a genuine chance of becoming the 1st & probably only player ever with 15K+ international runs & 1000+ International wickets; as being spinner, he had 2 decades of career; someone like Watson, Pollock or Crains simply couldn't last that long.

I again say, I haven't seen the boy - he might not be 17, but shouldn't be 23 either & leggis mature with age. He has lots, lots of time at hand. His idol should be Warne, Benaud or Qadir (Qadir was extremely under rated batsman) - someone who bowls 60+ overs in a Test & can contribute 35+runs/Test - that's a batting average of say 23. If he starts for Afridi way, he'll need Afridi like backing from all corners, to represent PAK more than 4/5 years. The reason is simple - he is not the best with bat, if he stops bowling (or can't make any impact), why should selectors pick him for 30s & 40s ahead of specialist bats, who also can share few overs. The best example of what'll happen is Mansoor Amzad - I saw him from Club house truing squire with a nice drift at U19 level, then he decided to compete with Afridi, ended up playing 1 or 2 matches for PAK.

Aamir, this kid, Ashghar, Aamad - all these players should target to make the team on bowling merit, then add value with their batting - that'll keep their nose ahead of Zia, Sadaf, Hamza or newbies. Anwar Alis are no body in Cricket, unless it's a 20 overs cartoon.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION], at present his bowling lacks accuracy, but there is evidence of talent. He was PAkistan's highest wicket taker in the U19 WC. I agree with your post he should work on both aspects of his game.
 
LOL, I have seen both bowl and Badar is a part timer, He has more potential as a bowler. Yes his control at present isnt great but leg-spinners need time to develop, and he is only 17.

Infact what you say is true for Badar, he is an excellent batting prospect who doesnt have too much going for his bowling so he should focus on his batting

You're clueless.
 
Absolutely opposite.

I haven't seen the kid, so can't tell about his bowling, but what you are suggesting is the Afridi way, where as youngsters should target Imran way.

In cricket, in any format (Ok, may not be in T20), the best match winners are bowling all-rounders - bowlers that make the team on bowling merit & can contribute with bat. The best ever I saw was Imran & in that regard, for Test matches at least, I would take Wasim, Hadlee, Warne or Marshall ahead of Sobers or Kallis - that's a separate debate, I won't explain here.

Now, this kid has the option to make PAK as a genuine leggi after Yasir, and he can add valuable runs from No. 8/9. Imran did that - starting from No. 10, ended up career at 3, but more than that, from a dibley-dobly, Imarn became the most lethal bowler, over a 3 years period, even compared to George Lohman or Syd Barnes (Check his stats from 1980 to 1983, before his stress fracture & then couple of years in 1986 & 1987, when he was 35+).

The difficult part is, it would ask him to double his work load - he has to be ready to bowl 3 hours in nets, then 2 hours batting & then other work outs. Imran used to bowl over 1000 overs in a County season & then bat at 4 - he must have put equal amount or more of work-load in nets as well. Afridi opted out the easy way - ended up as a nothing player. But, he had the talent to finish career with ~150 Tests, 7500+ runs at 35 & 450 wickets at 29; and equally impressive ODI career. In fact, he had a genuine chance of becoming the 1st & probably only player ever with 15K+ international runs & 1000+ International wickets; as being spinner, he had 2 decades of career; someone like Watson, Pollock or Crains simply couldn't last that long.

I again say, I haven't seen the boy - he might not be 17, but shouldn't be 23 either & leggis mature with age. He has lots, lots of time at hand. His idol should be Warne, Benaud or Qadir (Qadir was extremely under rated batsman) - someone who bowls 60+ overs in a Test & can contribute 35+runs/Test - that's a batting average of say 23. If he starts for Afridi way, he'll need Afridi like backing from all corners, to represent PAK more than 4/5 years. The reason is simple - he is not the best with bat, if he stops bowling (or can't make any impact), why should selectors pick him for 30s & 40s ahead of specialist bats, who also can share few overs. The best example of what'll happen is Mansoor Amzad - I saw him from Club house truing squire with a nice drift at U19 level, then he decided to compete with Afridi, ended up playing 1 or 2 matches for PAK.

Aamir, this kid, Ashghar, Aamad - all these players should target to make the team on bowling merit, then add value with their batting - that'll keep their nose ahead of Zia, Sadaf, Hamza or newbies. Anwar Alis are no body in Cricket, unless it's a 20 overs cartoon.

If he had the potential to make it as a leggie then I would suggest what you're suggesting. He's an ordinary bowler. Inaccurate, poor action, not much revolutions, there isn't anything to work with.

Shadab has great potential with the bat and has the clutch gene. He should stop wasting his time developing something he's always going to remain ordinary in. I would suggest he dedicates all his time towards batting.

Badar on the other hand gets the ball to rip like Usama and for a 'part-time' bowler is very accurate. He's equally gifted with bat and ball and should be doing what you're suggesting.
 
If he had the potential to make it as a leggie then I would suggest what you're suggesting. He's an ordinary bowler. Inaccurate, poor action, not much revolutions, there isn't anything to work with.

Shadab has great potential with the bat and has the clutch gene. He should stop wasting his time developing something he's always going to remain ordinary in. I would suggest he dedicates all his time towards batting.

Badar on the other hand gets the ball to rip like Usama and for a 'part-time' bowler is very accurate. He's equally gifted with bat and ball and should be doing what you're suggesting.

My mistake - I misplaced names. Saif Badar is the guy with excellent leg spin potential; while this boy is probably the one batted at 3 or 4 in U19 WC.

What I have written is for the Leggi, who bowled really well & has some batting talent. This boy has to make as a batsman or not. Leg spin is the easiest art (in terms of turning the ball), but it's the most difficult skill to master in terms of acuracy and variation, therefore whoever has natural leg spin talent should focus on becoming a bowler first.
 
What do you want me to do with these stats? I watched him bowl. He's ordinary. Hyped for nothing. Actually hyped for the wrong skill. His batting is what everyone should be excited about.

Firstly no one is hyping him up. He is far from being a finished article. He is far from being a good leg spinner. But It is absolutely wrong from him to give up on his bowling when he has enough talent to develop into something.

The purpose of these stats is to show why he shouldnt just give up bowling and focus on batting. He is 17 and there is no reason why he cant work hard on both facets and keep improving. Giving up is for light hearted, fighters believe in hard work and he should work hard in both facets.
 
Firstly no one is hyping him up. He is far from being a finished article. He is far from being a good leg spinner. But It is absolutely wrong from him to give up on his bowling when he has enough talent to develop into something.

The purpose of these stats is to show why he shouldnt just give up bowling and focus on batting. He is 17 and there is no reason why he cant work hard on both facets and keep improving. Giving up is for light hearted, fighters believe in hard work and he should work hard in both facets.

Okay, good luck to him.
 
Misbah likes him. Misbah has confidence on him.


This Boy is grabbing all the oppurtunities that are coming his way.


He has taken alot of wickets in 3 day games last season despite being a non seasoned Leggie.


So Usama & Shadab lets see who makes it first.


I hope Asghar makes our Odi team for England. He is ready.
 
Misbah likes him. Misbah has confidence on him.


This Boy is grabbing all the oppurtunities that are coming his way.


He has taken alot of wickets in 3 day games last season despite being a non seasoned Leggie.


So Usama & Shadab lets see who makes it first.


I hope Asghar makes our Odi team for England. He is ready.
really excited about this bloke bats and bowls well plus a world class fielder too. he can become into an all rounder. Happy inzi is giving him a chance at such a young age.
 
really excited about this bloke bats and bowls well plus a world class fielder too. he can become into an all rounder. Happy inzi is giving him a chance at such a young age.
Yeah He is Impressive.


Saif Badar is impressive aswell but he is a batsman who can bowl abit.


Thankfully now we are developing good bench strength MashaAllah.

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Yeah He is Impressive.


Saif Badar is impressive aswell but he is a batsman who can bowl abit.


Thankfully now we are developing good bench strength MashaAllah.

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Yeah i have seen Saif Badar bat and he is very impressive i rate him really high hope he sticks with opening because soon there won't be place in middle order specially with Saud, Babar, Haris.
 
Hope he becomes an all rounder for us. Sounds an exciting prospect.

There is talent in Pakistan it's just about how they develop and how hard they work on there weakness determines how good they will be.

Amad Butt
Mohammed Asghar
Shadab
Babar Azam
Saud Shakeel
Jaahid Ali
Hasan Ali


There is talent and there are some I haven't even mentioned. Inshallah they develop and concentrate on cricket
 
Rated him as soon as I saw him in the U19 World Cup. He has also performed on the A tour to Sri Lanka last year so I knew he has something about him!
 
Mir is much better leggie. He has got much better control than Khan. I like his drift and flight and has more variations than Khan. Unlucky to have missed out on selection
 
Lets see how 17 years Old Shadab plays Last Over of the Innings.

[MENTION=7701]Prince of Pakistan[/MENTION]
[MENTION=44454]proud pakistani[/MENTION]
 
This lad has already shown more promise than some others at this age. He will face the Hammad syndrome at some time though. Is he an allrounder? A bat? can he be a good legspinner? Needs to take some decisions.
 
This lad has already shown more promise than some others at this age. He will face the Hammad syndrome at some time though. Is he an allrounder? A bat? can he be a good legspinner? Needs to take some decisions.

His bowling figures has been really impressive


I have closely analysed him and his exploits in Grade 2 Cricket aswell.

At this Age both as Batsman & Bowler His Progress Development and Performances have been Better than Usama, Shahzaib, Usman, Yasir etc had at that Age ie 18.


Selectors & Misbah believe He will Play for Pakistan In an year or Two that is why He has been fast tracked into Pakistan A.


Usama got injured at wrong time. Hope his injury isn't serious but it provides great Oppurtunity to Shadab.
 
I have closely analysed him and his exploits in Grade 2 Cricket aswell.

At this Age both as Batsman & Bowler His Progress Development and Performances have been Better than Usama, Shahzaib, Usman, Yasir etc had at that Age ie 18.


Selectors & Misbah believe He will Play for Pakistan In an year or Two that is why He has been fast tracked into Pakistan A.


Usama got injured at wrong time. Hope his injury isn't serious but it provides great Oppurtunity to Shadab.

His batting seems pretty ok indeed, but not so sure about his bowling yet. He still has a lot of time.
 
Now I know why Management selected him so early for A tour. A great find.
 
Damn, those are some good figures. Looks a pile of gold just at the age of 17 I think. Good that he's getting selected in the A side consistently.

How old is he exactly? Will he be able to play the next U19 world cup as well?



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Current age 17 years 343 days

I donot know about repeat of u19 world cup but in the past babar azam did play 2 u19 world cup for pakistan

Also i think this is rule in pakistan if you play first class cricket you will not be eligible for u19 squad and he already has played one first class match
 
Current age 17 years 343 days

I donot know about repeat of u19 world cup but in the past babar azam did play 2 u19 world cup for pakistan

Also i think this is rule in pakistan if you play first class cricket you will not be eligible for u19 squad and he already has played one first class match

I think you have to not by 19 with a certain cut off date before the tournament starts. Tournament starts January 12th 2018, so cut off will probably be couple of months before. Will be a tight squeeze:inti

Disappointed if that rule is true. it's a way to improve further, especially as it is being played in New Zealand. Would have been very useful for him to get some experience in a setting that doesn't suit you as the ball will not spin nearly as much. If the rule is true, hopefully we can at least get some sort of A tour to SA or NZ something like that.
 
I think you have to not by 19 with a certain cut off date before the tournament starts. Tournament starts January 12th 2018, so cut off will probably be couple of months before. Will be a tight squeeze:inti

Disappointed if that rule is true. it's a way to improve further, especially as it is being played in New Zealand. Would have been very useful for him to get some experience in a setting that doesn't suit you as the ball will not spin nearly as much. If the rule is true, hopefully we can at least get some sort of A tour to SA or NZ something like that.

INSHALLAH he will represent pakistan very soon in odis
 
Shadab Khan batting at 6 scores vital 40 runs of 32 balls 5 fours and 1 six Strike Rate: 125.00 against zim A

Not much long he will replace Yasir shah in odis much better batsmen and bowler than yasir in odis

and also should replace Saad nasim in t20 squad
 
He did well in last match as well


Will soon play for Pakistan
 
2nd unofficial Test: Zimbabwe A v Pakistan A

BOWLING

24 overs

2 maiden

84 runs

4 wicket

Economy 3.50
 
Absolutely opposite.

I haven't seen the kid, so can't tell about his bowling, but what you are suggesting is the Afridi way, where as youngsters should target Imran way.

In cricket, in any format (Ok, may not be in T20), the best match winners are bowling all-rounders - bowlers that make the team on bowling merit & can contribute with bat. The best ever I saw was Imran & in that regard, for Test matches at least, I would take Wasim, Hadlee, Warne or Marshall ahead of Sobers or Kallis - that's a separate debate, I won't explain here.

Now, this kid has the option to make PAK as a genuine leggi after Yasir, and he can add valuable runs from No. 8/9. Imran did that - starting from No. 10, ended up career at 3, but more than that, from a dibley-dobly, Imarn became the most lethal bowler, over a 3 years period, even compared to George Lohman or Syd Barnes (Check his stats from 1980 to 1983, before his stress fracture & then couple of years in 1986 & 1987, when he was 35+).

The difficult part is, it would ask him to double his work load - he has to be ready to bowl 3 hours in nets, then 2 hours batting & then other work outs. Imran used to bowl over 1000 overs in a County season & then bat at 4 - he must have put equal amount or more of work-load in nets as well. Afridi opted out the easy way - ended up as a nothing player. But, he had the talent to finish career with ~150 Tests, 7500+ runs at 35 & 450 wickets at 29; and equally impressive ODI career. In fact, he had a genuine chance of becoming the 1st & probably only player ever with 15K+ international runs & 1000+ International wickets; as being spinner, he had 2 decades of career; someone like Watson, Pollock or Crains simply couldn't last that long.

I again say, I haven't seen the boy - he might not be 17, but shouldn't be 23 either & leggis mature with age. He has lots, lots of time at hand. His idol should be Warne, Benaud or Qadir (Qadir was extremely under rated batsman) - someone who bowls 60+ overs in a Test & can contribute 35+runs/Test - that's a batting average of say 23. If he starts for Afridi way, he'll need Afridi like backing from all corners, to represent PAK more than 4/5 years. The reason is simple - he is not the best with bat, if he stops bowling (or can't make any impact), why should selectors pick him for 30s & 40s ahead of specialist bats, who also can share few overs. The best example of what'll happen is Mansoor Amzad - I saw him from Club house truing squire with a nice drift at U19 level, then he decided to compete with Afridi, ended up playing 1 or 2 matches for PAK.

Aamir, this kid, Ashghar, Aamad - all these players should target to make the team on bowling merit, then add value with their batting - that'll keep their nose ahead of Zia, Sadaf, Hamza or newbies. Anwar Alis are no body in Cricket, unless it's a 20 overs cartoon.

I don't read lengthy articles but enjoyed reading yours, well said , makes total sense.
 
Doing really well MashaAllah.

Should be persisted with Pakistan A permanently in all formats for atleast 1 year.


Progressing well MashaAllah.
 
A leg spinner who can bat! that's awesome,hope he doesn't prove to be Chawla,the world needs leggies
 
This guy is a star. Easily the 2nd best all-rounder in Pakistan.

Great control over his variations and is quite mature at such a tender age.

His batting is pretty good as well. Can bat anywhere in the order from no.3 to no.6 Pakistan needs cricketers like Shadab. Versatile cricketer, this guy.
 
Amongst Yasir, Usama, Shahzaib, Shadab & Irfan batting wise Shadab is the best followed by Irfan.


But Shadab needs 1 - 2 years. Legspinning Art needs time to develop. He is genuine 17-18 so he should be picked after Champions Trophy or even after Next Qea Trophy.


In the meantime Pakistan must move on from Yasir Shah in Odi Cricket. He is not a limited overs spinner by any mean.
 
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