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Pakistan v Australia | 1st Test | 24/10/2014 | Dubai (DSC) l Day 3

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Underrated with an average of 62 at home and 43 away? Doesn't even average 50+ anywhere outside Australia.

But then he has 4 tests coming up against us, will become a Bradman once again :(

How is that a bad combination?
 
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Underrated with an average of 62 at home and 43 away? Doesn't even average 50+ anywhere outside Australia.

But then he has 4 tests coming up against us, will become a Bradman once again :(

Underrated because the emphasis has been on his relatively poor performances abroad. He hasn't been terrible abroad either. Has had good tons in SA,India etc. He's not an ATG and no one is claiming he is either but AB,Sanga and Clarke are the best test bats out there currently.
 
Australian captains suck against Pakistan. Bailey, Finch, Clarke. All failed. Bailey went into misbah mode. Finch went into his usual hack mode. And clarke well i dunno. :srt
 
Michael Clarke supported a weaker batting lineup before Warner and Smith hit their purple patch. Said no one ever. :shaq
 
Rank turners with batsmen getting out all around you and you average 48 with the bat is pretty impressive. Amla scored on a placid 1st innings UAE wicket where Ajmal found no turn at all. Context Aman.
In that case, you can have KP and Cook ahead of Clarke. Pujara also played on those same tracks.
 
farfetched but if we tale them all out today and bat tomorrow all day then we have a good chance of winning this.
 

Sorry but those stats are quite meaningless. Hashim Amla averages 24 in Pakistan, 36 in Bangladesh, 38 in SL, 102 in India and 78 in UAE and 20 in WI. You cant establish whether a player has done well against spin by just throwing out stats in different countries. Eg. Amla never played on a turning pitch in the UAE. 2010 series was on flat roads. and the 1st innings of the 2013 series was flat as well.
 
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farfetched but if we tale them all out today and bat tomorrow all day then we have a good chance of winning this.

Well we have very little chance of winning, I'd much rather be in Pakistan's situation at this point in the game.
 
Underrated because the emphasis has been on his relatively poor performances abroad. He hasn't been terrible abroad either. Has had good tons in SA,India etc. He's not an ATG and no one is claiming he is either but AB,Sanga and Clarke are the best test bats out there currently.

Clarke is past his peak IMO. Warner is the one ramping up.
 
Sorry but those stats are quite meaningless. Hashim Amla averages 24 in Pakistan, 36 in Bangladesh, 38 in SL, 102 in India and 78 in UAE and 20 in WI. You cant establish whether a player has done well against spin by just throwing out stats in different countries.
The only reason I brought Clarke's career stats is because he's played sparsely in the SC.

In the last few years, Amla has had the better of Clarke in the SC.

I just don't understand the talk of Clarke being a top player of spin when the numbers say something else.

Effectiveness and actual performances trumps fancy footwork in my books.
 
Sorry but those stats are quite meaningless. Hashim Amla averages 24 in Pakistan, 36 in Bangladesh, 38 in SL, 102 in India and 78 in UAE and 20 in WI. You cant establish whether a player has done well against spin by just throwing out stats in different countries. Eg. Amla never played on a turning pitch in the UAE. 2010 series was on flat roads. and the 1st innings of the 2013 series was flat as well.
Mate the wicket Clarke just batted on was flat as well :facepalm:

Quality of the bowlers is a far cry from the ones Amla faced then too.
 
Pakistan need to exert pressure.. we have a habit of relaxing the fields after getting in good positions.
 
Pakistan to win this match now and quite easily.


LOLZZZ at the easy part. good one. Hello pakistan here who couldnt chase 4 runs in 6 balls in the last ODI match. I am not feeling safe till we are ripping the stumps in celebrations. :P
 
Hopefully some posters have learnt something today, don't judge a bowler by 6 overs in his debut match, especially a leggie.
 
Yasir Shah seems quite good, just needs a bit more maturing while Imran Khan is like a Bhuvneshwar Kumar without the swing and the control of line
 
LOLZZZ at the easy part. good one. Hello pakistan here who couldnt chase 4 runs in 6 balls in the last ODI match. I am not feeling safe till we are ripping the stumps in celebrations. :P

you wont be batting last.Australia will be and on a 5th day pitch they wont score more than 150
 
Pakistan need to go for the kill here this is where we can really force Aussies into a corner and then possible push for a test win.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Just switched on the Tv & watching Aus V Pak in Dubai. I like the look of this leggie Yasir Shah, plenty of energy & nice variations of pace</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/525582964290101249">October 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Just switched on the Tv & watching Aus V Pak in Dubai. I like the look of this leggie Yasir Shah, plenty of energy & nice variations of pace</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/525582964290101249">October 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Yasir should let it rip like warne :)
 
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